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[wishingstar]

"Chernoff made this post:

Stradley, Chernoff & Alford
June 17
'After eleven years, the law firm is no more. It's a bittersweet symphony, this life. Marriages dissolve. Partnerships dissolve. Children move on. And then rebirth.'"


Odd quote for sure.......it reminds me of one of my favorite songs from The Verve (which I have posted here before):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyP3g6oiQck[/youtube]

Blessings!

 :beerchug: this song crossed my mind too! I've "Bittersweet Symphony" as a fav on my Ipod.

BTW I don't know if it's true but it seems that Richard Ashcroft of the Verve has plans to "return" in 2013 after 4 years.
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LOVE

WOW! This is awesome.....too funny, it's on my fav list too....I listen to it weekly....just one of those songs that helps me through things.  Great news about Richard Ashcroft....it will be interesting to where he takes his music.
Thanks for the post.......have a beautiful evening/day!

Blessings!

[voiceforthesilent]

Because I'm obsessive?

Because I've been doing it for 3 years now and because I consider both credible sources who's words are a puzzle so I turn them over n over n over again in my mind trying to find the answer. If I can't find the answer history proves that only means YET, so you have to keep watchin for the punchline. Even if you DO find an answer it may only be A answer not THE answer so you mentally shelf it anyway and continue to... keep watchin.

Shit, I don't even WANT to do this stuff anymore... but it's like involuntary at this point. I am so weary.

But honestly, I'm surprised this sat up here all day and only 2 people noticed the connection of that painting on Chernoff's FB to Front's words. WTF peeps? That is some crazy shit. Where the hell is everyone?

Ps. Oh, I guess it would have helped if I had posted when Chernoff posted the painting pic. It was posted on Feb 24, 2012, AFTER two of Front's bird/feather posts. Sorry for omitting that detail. I will edit the post.

Well, great job. I've been doing this for almost three years now and I've kept tons and tons of notes and made so many screenshots that I had to delete some from my computer as it was so bogged down. I've followed link after link wondering if I was going to get a virus on my computer going into the unknown. And I think about words, clues, and odd posts trying to connect the dots too. But I don't seem to have the knack like you and some other do. I guess some people are just better investigators.  But I am certainly good at watchin' - that I can do really well. So, I will keep watchin'.

Grace - please keep talking even when you don't know why. I think you're fascinating.

Yes, I think we are watching a TAKEOVER like none other but I have a feeling we aren't even close to being done.

Blessings

[GINAFELICIA]

How do we know that is Chernoff's real FB account?

[julia142]

Thanks @ Julia. A great post. I also thought Murray’s video was a bit of a surprise for 25th June. I feel you are right about Front’s last post connecting to this special release.  :icon_lol:

So much of this Hoax I believe is to do with the media’s lies and their power over people’s minds. How they tortured, and harassed Michael. Why? For their own profit.

I especially liked these words from Murray:

“the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgement, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself,”

“scrutinize, no fault could be found then you may have earned that right to criticize.”

It reminds me of the words of Jesus:

“he who is without sin.....let him cast the first stone”

By the way Julia, I too think you are deserving of a nickname from Front.  :icon_e_wink: :LolLolLolLol:

Well Sarahli, I really thought that my connection about Murray's video statement and Front's last post was maybe not very good, until I saw your post. I saw that no one answered my post and that maybe I was wrong. But still, more and more I look into that, and after also reading your post, I think that maybe I am in the right path finally.

Front's post and Murray's video goes into the same thing, they mean the same thing, and we even have the ''looking at oneselves in the mirror'' in the 2 messages. Also, yesterday, I counted the days, and the last post of Front was made 7 days before we saw the video of Michael, so.... 

Thanks for thinking also that I deserve a nickname too! loooooollll!!!!!! That would be awesome!!!!  :LolLolLolLol:

Sending you a big kiss to you Sarahli and much L.O.V.E. right back at you!

[Grace]

Grace - please keep talking even when you don't know why.

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I hope to still know why I talk LOL but if I start blubbering pure nonsense, please stop me, ok?

I agree with you. I have the impression we have not even seen the first room in this chateau.
Maybe several corners but not the whole big picture of allover overhaul.

[bec]

Good point @Gina. We don't, do we.

[Adi]

If it is Chernoff's Facebook account then that is a pretty freakin' awesome dot being connected.

Thanks for posting bec...I would never have even thought of looking at his FB account.

[voiceforthesilent]

Thanks @ Julia. A great post. I also thought Murray’s video was a bit of a surprise for 25th June. I feel you are right about Front’s last post connecting to this special release.  :icon_lol:

So much of this Hoax I believe is to do with the media’s lies and their power over people’s minds. How they tortured, and harassed Michael. Why? For their own profit.

I especially liked these words from Murray:

“the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgement, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself,”

“scrutinize, no fault could be found then you may have earned that right to criticize.”

It reminds me of the words of Jesus:

“he who is without sin.....let him cast the first stone”

By the way Julia, I too think you are deserving of a nickname from Front.  :icon_e_wink: :LolLolLolLol:

Well Sarahli, I really thought that my connection about Murray's video statement and Front's last post was maybe not very good, until I saw your post. I saw that no one answered my post and that maybe I was wrong. But still, more and more I look into that, and after also reading your post, I think that maybe I am in the right path finally.

Front's post and Murray's video goes into the same thing, they mean the same thing, and we even have the ''looking at oneselves in the mirror'' in the 2 messages. Also, yesterday, I counted the days, and the last post of Front was made 7 days before we saw the video of Michael, so.... 

Thanks for thinking also that I deserve a nickname too! loooooollll!!!!!! That would be awesome!!!!  :LolLolLolLol:

Sending you a big kiss to you Sarahli and much L.O.V.E. right back at you!

Julia - I think some of us missed your post because there is so much information that sometimes we skip over pages or it takes a while to get through them all. I am glad Sarahli brought it up because I had overlooked it somehow but I agree - great post and great connection.

I just find it too hard to believe that the video was made right after MJ's d**th, hidden away, and then somehow leaked on his 3rd year anniversary. Kind of like the Pepsi video that was miraculously leaked.  Too coincidental in my book for sure. And, it had too many Michaelism's - just like the first video. It sounded more like something Michael would say. I really enjoyed listening to it though because I totally believe Michael is among the living and I further enjoyed it because I can feel that he's baiting the media big time. He's beating them at their own game. The media wouldn't post this stuff if Michael himself were saying it so he's having someone say it in his place.

Michael is brilliant.

[Adi]

As you all know, most of the time when Front does a thread, we have clues coming from family of Michael or media few days after his last post that confirms us that he is a true insider. So today, I looked at the big news of this special day, and what was the most surprising was the video of Conrad Murray talking about Michael. So I had a big feeling that the last post of Front could have something relating to it, since he did not post on today of this special day. Well, I was not deceived, because see the highlighted post of Front in red:

*staggers into the thread…looks around to make sure he's in the right place*

back to front…..front to back…..I'm getting dizzy.
But the GOOD news is…both threads are now re-opened and merged. So, perhaps the uhmm…dilly-dallying was a blessing in disguise.

Hate to bring this up again --- and not to disrespect anyone who doesn't wish to be reminded of this bullsh^t again but I feel it's necessary and needs to be clarified…..

Although I was 99.9% certain that it was CLEAR the first time, apparently A FEW people either a) didn't get it or b) DID get it but insist on twisting words and shadowing in dark illusions to fit their OWN deluded little fairytale. Front never, never --- I shall repeat, NEVER! --- made a generalized address to ANY members of ANY forum. Front has stated a million times over, the ONLY thing that matters when the day is said and done is believing and trusting in Michael. He is in CONTROL. If you think he doesn't know what he's doing, then perhaps YOU are in the wrong place. To reiterate---do you believe/trust Front? yes? no? well, guess what? it matters not! do you believe/trust in the Easter Bunny? it matters not! Do you believe/trust MJ? ah…there ya go.
By the same token,, if you're a vanilla icecream fan, GO to the vanilla icecream thread…..do NOT participate in chocolate icecream discussions because you WILL be stumbling out that door bamboozled and COVERED with chocolate icecream from head to toe.

And if it's STILL not clear…..Front was addressing the tabloid ASSociatES and their Devil-driving, dinged-up, damaged, e-coli-infested, ugly-azz LAME TRAIN caboose--which they constantly TRY (and FAIL worse with every attempt!) to alter the tracks of the Hoax Coach with their acquisitivene$$. If you are not in said category, move right along --- it doesn't apply to you. If you FEEL addressed by Front's calling outs….then PERHAPS it's time to check that man (or woman) in the mirror.

I, for one, would REALLy like the juvenile bashing and senseless arguing among members AND among boards to STOP. But I WILL say…..if a TA stinks up the place with their toilet-water breath I WILL defend Michael, the Jackson Family, and his plans. Furthermore, if a hater joins this board with the SOLE purpose & intention of belittling ANY of the members here, mods and/or admin…I will CONTINUe to defend them as I have done in the past.

During probably the darkest and trying time in Michael's life, his family & fans defended him…with every step of the way--they BELIEVED in him. Yea, I think it's pretty safe to say that it's mutually reciprocated in THESE times of darkness.

cute little smileys and nicknames are irrelevant and not needed at this time. I think I've made myself clear enough.


p.s. monkey is still waiting for that kiwi…….

What Conrad said in the video was mostly directed at the media, and he also talked about looking at oneselves in the mirror:

(Thanks to 2good2betrue for the transcript of the video)

Transcript:

Todays ?relief? is to break my silence.. Yet, let it be known, that I continue to mourn the loss of my dear friend Michael Jackson.
Additionally, I could find no words satisfactorily to summarize my affection for Michael.  For you to have known Michael as closely as I did, you too may have problems
adequately describing the relationship.  Michael had lots of acquaintances, but he and I knew that our relationship was purely one of a true friendship.  Over the years of knowing
Michael, I became not only a friend and physician, but a sound and board for his personal problems and emotional PAINS.. Despite our relationship and conversations, I am now made aware through
recent media reporting that he failed to share with me any problems involving his alleged addictions with medications. None the less, I beLIEve this is not the time to continue demeaning nor assassinating his character
in the media.  We must remember Michael for the good he has done for society.  WE must also be conscious that no man nor women, with the exception of the innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons.
Therefore, the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgement, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you are not 100% sure that the ...?word? scrutinize, no fault could be found
then you may have earned that right to criticize.  I pray that you celebrate his life in a positive light, for all the good he has done while on earth, so that his memory will be more CELESTIAL ....
For the media and court of public opinion, let us not perish in the flood of negative reporting...  Maybe some good news may be more rejuvenating than you think..

Why not give good news a try, and lighten up on Michael for a change....Thankyou 

So last thread about Front is to look at oneselves in the Murray, and news of importance today since last post is Murray telling people to look at themselves in the mirror...

Am I the only one who sees too far?

By the way, Front could I have a nickname too? I am not so active here, but I have been very active in the french hoax community since the start, I was the first one to do hoax video documentaries on youtube in the french community, and the first one who tought Back deserved to have a video about him on youtube, I deserve one Mr. Front, pleeeaaaaaseeee!   :smiley-vault-misc-150:


 

I agree Julia....that is a great connection between Front's post and the Dr M video released on the 3rd "deathversary" as TMZ coined it.

[julia142]

Thanks @ Julia. A great post. I also thought Murray’s video was a bit of a surprise for 25th June. I feel you are right about Front’s last post connecting to this special release.  :icon_lol:

So much of this Hoax I believe is to do with the media’s lies and their power over people’s minds. How they tortured, and harassed Michael. Why? For their own profit.

I especially liked these words from Murray:

“the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgement, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself,”

“scrutinize, no fault could be found then you may have earned that right to criticize.”

It reminds me of the words of Jesus:

“he who is without sin.....let him cast the first stone”

By the way Julia, I too think you are deserving of a nickname from Front.  :icon_e_wink: :LolLolLolLol:

Well Sarahli, I really thought that my connection about Murray's video statement and Front's last post was maybe not very good, until I saw your post. I saw that no one answered my post and that maybe I was wrong. But still, more and more I look into that, and after also reading your post, I think that maybe I am in the right path finally.

Front's post and Murray's video goes into the same thing, they mean the same thing, and we even have the ''looking at oneselves in the mirror'' in the 2 messages. Also, yesterday, I counted the days, and the last post of Front was made 7 days before we saw the video of Michael, so.... 

Thanks for thinking also that I deserve a nickname too! loooooollll!!!!!! That would be awesome!!!!  :LolLolLolLol:

Sending you a big kiss to you Sarahli and much L.O.V.E. right back at you!

Julia - I think some of us missed your post because there is so much information that sometimes we skip over pages or it takes a while to get through them all. I am glad Sarahli brought it up because I had overlooked it somehow but I agree - great post and great connection.

I just find it too hard to believe that the video was made right after MJ's d**th, hidden away, and then somehow leaked on his 3rd year anniversary. Kind of like the Pepsi video that was miraculously leaked.  Too coincidental in my book for sure. And, it had too many Michaelism's - just like the first video. It sounded more like something Michael would say. I really enjoyed listening to it though because I totally believe Michael is among the living and I further enjoyed it because I can feel that he's baiting the media big time. He's beating them at their own game. The media wouldn't post this stuff if Michael himself were saying it so he's having someone say it in his place.

Michael is brilliant.

Thanks so much Voiceforthesilent, I know that is because I don't write here a lot, so probably, I don't get read for that, people tends to read people that writes a lot here, and forget about the other who don't post often. I am more into videos than forum, though I read here everyday, and know each one of you who write everytime, and I see so much brilliant investigators here! I have been in the hoax train since july 2009, so I am too in the oldest beLIEver who saw every clues going in since the start. I have always been one of the watcher of Back, TS and Front, they are the ones who I think are the real insiders, I never believed in the ''BOW'' PYT Peter pan'' and all those sorts of characters we have seen since the start. Though, also, there is another one, that disapeared and whom I thought could be one in the past ''lastsevenwords'', I felt something with this person... And last one, do you remember the site ''lookinbiz.net'' about the story of Jack and Lily? This was another one which I think had a connection to Michael...

So about the video of Murray, I really think the same as you, I think it was a message from Michael directly, because it had nothing to do with Murray, it was all about Michael. And 3 years later? Pleeeaaase!!! I wonder what non-beLIEver has to say about it... It all seems like a big movie production! When I saw Murray in the nbc interview with the British reporter, and that Murray says ''Part 2'', I saw something in his eyes that was the same as Michael, like he was saying, ''the best is yet to come'' !!!

More and more, I think Front did this post to point out that video of Murray!

Thanks voiceforthesilent, when I have people like you and Sarahli that posts often here, and who sees the same connection as me, I don't feel alone anymore in my head.

L.O.V.E. right back a you too !

[julia142]

As you all know, most of the time when Front does a thread, we have clues coming from family of Michael or media few days after his last post that confirms us that he is a true insider. So today, I looked at the big news of this special day, and what was the most surprising was the video of Conrad Murray talking about Michael. So I had a big feeling that the last post of Front could have something relating to it, since he did not post on today of this special day. Well, I was not deceived, because see the highlighted post of Front in red:

*staggers into the thread…looks around to make sure he's in the right place*

back to front…..front to back…..I'm getting dizzy.
But the GOOD news is…both threads are now re-opened and merged. So, perhaps the uhmm…dilly-dallying was a blessing in disguise.

Hate to bring this up again --- and not to disrespect anyone who doesn't wish to be reminded of this bullsh^t again but I feel it's necessary and needs to be clarified…..

Although I was 99.9% certain that it was CLEAR the first time, apparently A FEW people either a) didn't get it or b) DID get it but insist on twisting words and shadowing in dark illusions to fit their OWN deluded little fairytale. Front never, never --- I shall repeat, NEVER! --- made a generalized address to ANY members of ANY forum. Front has stated a million times over, the ONLY thing that matters when the day is said and done is believing and trusting in Michael. He is in CONTROL. If you think he doesn't know what he's doing, then perhaps YOU are in the wrong place. To reiterate---do you believe/trust Front? yes? no? well, guess what? it matters not! do you believe/trust in the Easter Bunny? it matters not! Do you believe/trust MJ? ah…there ya go.
By the same token,, if you're a vanilla icecream fan, GO to the vanilla icecream thread…..do NOT participate in chocolate icecream discussions because you WILL be stumbling out that door bamboozled and COVERED with chocolate icecream from head to toe.

And if it's STILL not clear…..Front was addressing the tabloid ASSociatES and their Devil-driving, dinged-up, damaged, e-coli-infested, ugly-azz LAME TRAIN caboose--which they constantly TRY (and FAIL worse with every attempt!) to alter the tracks of the Hoax Coach with their acquisitivene$$. If you are not in said category, move right along --- it doesn't apply to you. If you FEEL addressed by Front's calling outs….then PERHAPS it's time to check that man (or woman) in the mirror.

I, for one, would REALLy like the juvenile bashing and senseless arguing among members AND among boards to STOP. But I WILL say…..if a TA stinks up the place with their toilet-water breath I WILL defend Michael, the Jackson Family, and his plans. Furthermore, if a hater joins this board with the SOLE purpose & intention of belittling ANY of the members here, mods and/or admin…I will CONTINUe to defend them as I have done in the past.

During probably the darkest and trying time in Michael's life, his family & fans defended him…with every step of the way--they BELIEVED in him. Yea, I think it's pretty safe to say that it's mutually reciprocated in THESE times of darkness.

cute little smileys and nicknames are irrelevant and not needed at this time. I think I've made myself clear enough.


p.s. monkey is still waiting for that kiwi…….

What Conrad said in the video was mostly directed at the media, and he also talked about looking at oneselves in the mirror:

(Thanks to 2good2betrue for the transcript of the video)

Transcript:

Todays ?relief? is to break my silence.. Yet, let it be known, that I continue to mourn the loss of my dear friend Michael Jackson.
Additionally, I could find no words satisfactorily to summarize my affection for Michael.  For you to have known Michael as closely as I did, you too may have problems
adequately describing the relationship.  Michael had lots of acquaintances, but he and I knew that our relationship was purely one of a true friendship.  Over the years of knowing
Michael, I became not only a friend and physician, but a sound and board for his personal problems and emotional PAINS.. Despite our relationship and conversations, I am now made aware through
recent media reporting that he failed to share with me any problems involving his alleged addictions with medications. None the less, I beLIEve this is not the time to continue demeaning nor assassinating his character
in the media.  We must remember Michael for the good he has done for society.  WE must also be conscious that no man nor women, with the exception of the innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons.
Therefore, the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgement, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you are not 100% sure that the ...?word? scrutinize, no fault could be found
then you may have earned that right to criticize.  I pray that you celebrate his life in a positive light, for all the good he has done while on earth, so that his memory will be more CELESTIAL ....
For the media and court of public opinion, let us not perish in the flood of negative reporting...  Maybe some good news may be more rejuvenating than you think..

Why not give good news a try, and lighten up on Michael for a change....Thankyou 

So last thread about Front is to look at oneselves in the Murray, and news of importance today since last post is Murray telling people to look at themselves in the mirror...

Am I the only one who sees too far?

By the way, Front could I have a nickname too? I am not so active here, but I have been very active in the french hoax community since the start, I was the first one to do hoax video documentaries on youtube in the french community, and the first one who tought Back deserved to have a video about him on youtube, I deserve one Mr. Front, pleeeaaaaaseeee!   :smiley-vault-misc-150:


 

I agree Julia....that is a great connection between Front's post and the Dr M video released on the 3rd "deathversary" as TMZ coined it.

Thank you to you too Miss glADIator! 

Lucky you, Front gave you a nickname, awwwwwwwwww!

[Australian MJ BeLIEver]

@ bec, huge bit thank you for sharing this with us all. it is appreciated. this is huge...  :bearhug:


for you:



i dont have anything hoaxy connected to my FB - only my twitter account... i def need to join some hoaxy pages and groups on FB.

[bec]

Well Chernoff's website doesn't link to anything it offers to, Facebook, Twitter, or that little "in" button whatever that is. Bottom right corner of each page, icons, but no links.

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IF that's even his website.

IF he's even a real lawyer for that matter.

[Im_convincedmjalive]

 :icon_rr:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALcfb4Fb1E&feature=related[/youtube]

I commented in the thread on TMZ's article regarding Conny and his wonderful message.  :abouttime:

That was RIGHT on TIME and PERFECT!

 :bearhug:

[MJonmind]

Bec, you do find some doozies! This is a real good one, though my favorite is still News of the World comments from Study, Jesse P. and Lisa!

Because I've been doing it for 3 years now and because I consider both credible sources who's words are a puzzle so I turn them over n over n over again in my mind trying to find the answer. If I can't find the answer history proves that only means YET, so you have to keep watchin for the punchline. Even if you DO find an answer it may only be A answer not THE answer so you mentally shelf it anyway and continue to... keep watchin.

All those times laying awake churning things over and over in the mind! The brain is an amazing thing!

Oh, remember that video of an interview with Ed Chernoff, that is completely weird. Sounds like he just completed his bar exam, and what, they put him on such a high profile case??  There’s a skeleton sitting near his desk (last half), and apparently the Judge nicknamed him Hollywood --maybe because this is all for show??

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t26_9s0o-f0[/youtube]

Voice about the new Murray video,

The media wouldn't post this stuff if Michael himself were saying it so he's having someone say it in his place.

Michael is brilliant.

Exactly!

Julia142, it’s good you have that long-term knowledge of the hoax, and I hope you post more!  For many long-termers here fatigue is a factor.