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Others / Re: Is artist B. Howard a Jackson?
« on: November 02, 2010, 03:47:57 PM »
Quote from: "mopey3655"
You know something all of this is getting so ridiculous we are sounding just like the media no better no worst.  Coming up with all these speculations and this one saying yes I know this for a fact and the other saying yes I know this for a fact but unless we have solid proof a DNA test to prove or Michael himself saying that Omer, B. Howard or God knows who comes along and they look like Michael or sound like Michael speculating that it is Michael's child we dont know.  My question is if Michael had all these children why was he so desperate to have a family to go to the point of having Debbie Rowe have his children I dont understand it if he had these children and long before the other three came along and was never any mention of these children before.  Did proof come out that Omer is Michael's child oh because Joe said it or that he spent alot of time with the Jacksons, next thing we're going to hear is that McCauley was Michael's child too.  Come on people lets just stop this ok.  As far as I am concerned Michael never acknowledged any of these the only names I heard were Prince, Paris and Blanket thats it and I never knew Michael to deny any child if he knew it was his.  I just dont understand any of this we are going on with about these people.
It's hard to ignore B. Howard. I really don't think he's MJ's child. MJ would never have a child and not be in that child's life. However, the Jackson Brothers and Joe are another story. His relationship with the family is also hard to ignore.  It's their business, whatever the truth. But B. Howard cannot expect people to not wonder. His voice, singing and speaking are very much like MJ and those who like MJ's style, will like him.

General Hoax Talk / Re: Expectations versus Reality
« on: November 02, 2010, 03:34:23 PM »
Quote from: "BlackJack"
I'm interested to know what people are expecting with the re-appearance of MJ as it relates to him personally (as opposed to the other issues that are of a global nature). Expectations can be Dangerous as they do create pressure. To put pressure on yourself is one thing, but to have pressure created by what others EXPECT of you, magnifies the intensity. What others WANT from you is a major part of the problems in all of THIS. As you all are aware, everybody wants a piece of the action whether it's the record industry who think they OWN their artists, right down to the people who jump on the gravy train and want you for their meal ticket. Fabrication and corruption is unfortunately everywhere and Trust becomes impossible! You've heard many times that without Trust, life is lonely.
I think it's important to remember that MJ is over 50 and did not want to be touring past the age of 40, (HIStory was IT). He did not want to end up like Sammy Davis Jr doing Vegas night after night and he said that he wished James Brown would've taken the time to slow down and enjoy his success instead of working himself into the ground.
He can still sing, there is no doubt, but if Big Business or the fans expect a tour can you see how this is unrealistic and creates pressure. MJ doesn't do what he doesn't want to do! Just because the touring phase of his life is over doesn't mean that's IT of coarse. He has never stopped dabbling in the arts as he's a creative force of nature that must channel itself through some form of medium....... just look at the hoax production that's going on now. BAM is a return on his OWN terms, not a continuation of things as they were - like a tour or even necessarily a concert , one-off or otherwise.
Isn't it enough to just have him back, "even if he never sings another note" as brother Tito mentioned?
I just read this thread and I have to say, I have strong feelings about MJ and a BAM. Iknow my position may not popular, but I feel strongly about his return and I hope and pray he does not come back.
This hoax has brought to surface so many truths in regards to MJ and his life, personally and professionally. Some who he thought were his friends (or maybe he knew they were not his friends, but his sudden death, proved him correct), have betrayed him.  The world has in many ways forgotten the ugly molestation lies and sees him for the creative force he “was”.  I had to chuckle as I visited Disneyland this summer and watched Captain Eo. The audience sat mesmerized by the MJ of the 80’s. He was able to capture them once again, along with their children. This would not have happened if he had not orchestrated this hoax. I was also in the Toy store with my little boy and he jumped up and down, excited as he put the new Dance Mickey Mouse on his Santa list. I again had to smile as I watched the Mickey on display do the moonwalk. I knew MJ was somewhere smiling. This would have never happened if MJ had not “died”.  My nieces were students at Gardner Elem. in Hollywood when MJ was honored with his name on the auditorium. His name was covered when the molestation charges were thrown at him, but once again, his name is displayed for everyone to see.  His name had been dragged through the mud by hateful and ignorant people in the media and within the legal system. But in his death, it’s as if most of the world has realized their error.  There is something very symbolic about the uncovering of his name on the school.
Coming back may have some advantages. Yes, the media will learn a lesson about reporting the lies, and yes, he’ll return to the world and we’ll be able to enjoy him again, out in the public eye, but what does he gain personally?  He’ll still have to deal with the fanatic fans like those mentioned in another post. He’ll still have to deal with a media that is heartless and only concerned about the bottom line…selling their product, be it a magazine, newspaper or the TV. ratings.  On the other side, if he remains behind the curtains, he’s able to continue using his creative voice in many ways without the scrutiny. His children will be able to live a more “normal” life without the microscope that follows MJ. His legacy will remain in tact and most of all, the world will still have his magic for generations to come in the form of videos, CD’s, etc…  

Just to understand how the magic MJ creates, especially with children, is timeless. I will tell you a story. My husband and I recently adopted a little 4 year boy. He came to us through foster care and had previously been in 4 other foster homes since the age of 2. His parents, the people who were created to love him, instead abused him. The previous foster homes were crowded and some were also abusive. His parents failed him and the system was also failing him.  But children react to the world differently and he has been nothing but a bright light since the day he came into our home. One day I was on my computer, viewing this web site and he was sitting in my lap. He saw the pictures of MJ posted as members signature and he just lit up light a Christmas tree. He suddenly jumped up and began to sing and dance to Billie Jean. I was floored.  This beautiful little child who had been in so many homes, with so many different people, had managed to find some happiness in the form of MJ. I asked him how did he know Michael Jackson and he said. “Everybody knows Michael Jackson. I love him”.  

MJ does not need to come back in order for his love and magic to continue. Not everyone will get it, but many of us do, especially the children. My hope for MJ is for him to one day be able to hold his grandchildren and tell them stories of a man who once lived, but had to die in order to live. He should be able to do this in peace. He’s given the world enough and it’s now up to us to continue to spread his love. It’s not going to happen over night, but one thing I know for sure. Love always wins in the end.
The dust has settled and MJ is back on top. I would hope that MJ will not let the dust fall out the right side of his pearl jacket and return to world of the living.
Just my opinion.

Katherine Jackson / Re: November 8 Oprah Interview with Katherine Jackson
« on: November 02, 2010, 11:50:15 AM »
I think MJ has a very forgiving heart and just maybe he forgives Oprah. She has a very wide audience and it's important for everyone to see how his beautiful children are such a reflection of him as a person. They are finally living a normal life and Mother Kate is such a loving human being, how can they not be okay. It's jut one interview and I'm sure it's done in good taste.

Others / Re: Is artist B. Howard a Jackson?
« on: October 29, 2010, 02:27:49 AM »
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Stranger In Chi-town"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Brandon father name is Augie, father and son has the same nose and identical in features, I know Ms. Howard personally and Michael is not this kid father.pot4care+

Thanks for clearing this up for us......I would be crazy to think Michael has children everywhere...I don't believe it is his style...

But he is kinda Hot..

Quote from: "MJonmind"
As Michael said, "That puts another rumor to rest!" Thanks Pot4care+!
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "MJonmind"
As Michael said, "That puts another rumor to rest!" Thanks Pot4care+!

I second that - THANKS!

Yup! Agreed! =]

Not saying pot4care is not telling the truth, but why are we suddenly believing just one poster on a forum? :S
Not all of us believe the poster. I think B. Howard is a Jackson.

Others / Re: Is artist B. Howard a Jackson?
« on: October 22, 2010, 10:48:39 AM »
It's like watching MJ during his Off The Wall days.  Brandon makes me a bit sad because no matter what you think about the hoax, we will never see the likes of a man like MJ again. I mean I think Brandon is most likely a Jackson in some way. The Jacksons don't let people into their family without some strong connection, either by way of blood or by way of a strong friendship, so he's in the "family" for a reason, but he made me think of the young MJ back before the madness of crazy fame and the record breaking success of "Thriller". I miss that MJ. Innocent, quiet, soft spoken and MJ had such a heart of gold.

Sorry for the time machine back, but Brandon just brought back some memories.

General Hoax Talk / Re: MJJackson1958 twitter account could be a proof...
« on: October 20, 2010, 05:56:42 PM »
Why not just delete the account? Why would someone delete the tweets to 0,yet not delete the account and make it disappear from twitter?

Others / Re: Siedah Garrett (author of MITM)
« on: October 03, 2010, 10:39:22 PM »
She's a very classy lady. Her song is still one of my faves by MJ. We can all learn something from this song.
I notice the troll and their attempt to do such harm to a forum of people who are here because of a man whose heart was so full of love and kindness for all mankind.
Makes you understand why MJ have have faked his death. It seems those who are negative have so much more time and motivation than those of us who want peace.

Sorry for the rant and going OT.

This Is It / Re: Jack Donner... the Gravedigger, the Judge - coincidence?
« on: October 01, 2010, 10:10:33 PM »
What are the odds....hummm...

TMZ Articles / Re: Katherine Jackson Sues AEG Over Michael's Death
« on: September 15, 2010, 07:05:13 PM »
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
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Slight update... still doesn't confirm who filed the lawsuit though :?  :?  :?

In the document, Katherine also blames AEG for hiring Dr. Conrad Murray without  a proper background check -- claiming, "AEG did not provide a doctor who was truly looking out for Jackson's well-being and did not provide equipment."

So Katherine is helping get Murray off the hook as well?  :lol:
Exactly!! He can use the same position as a defense that he was not given proper equiptment to care for MJ, therefore he was not at fault.

TMZ Articles / Re: Katherine Jackson Sues AEG Over Michael's Death
« on: September 15, 2010, 07:03:03 PM »
Why file this civil lawsuit before the criminal trial?  Why not let the D.A.'s office finish their case? My goodness there hasn't been a prelim hearing?
The D.A. has access to sources and information that could help this case, but I feel the family may be jepordizing that case. It's as if they are helping Murray to prove his case that it was not his fault. It was AEG he killled MJ, not Murray.

Something isn't adding up. Any good attorney would tell the family to wait until CM's case is completed.

Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: September 14, 2010, 11:02:08 AM »
Quote from: FrenchBraid
Quote from: anewfan

I think he put those numbers by the date to help us see how he came up with them.....not sure how or what we are suppose to decipher using that method. And once we decipher them.....what are we suppose to do with that info? ( I understand how he got those numbers using the date....I just don't know what to do with that method now......) Does this make sense?

Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions as to what we can figure out?

YES! How about this?

Thursday, 25 June 2009 DIED
Tuesday, 7 July 2009 MEMORIAL
It is 12 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Thursday, 25 June 2009 DIED
Thursday, 3 September 2009 FUNERAL
It is 70 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Monday, 8 February 2010 MURRAY ARRAIGNED
Monday, 5 April 2010 MURRAY COURT DATE #1
It is 56 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Monday, 5 April 2010 MURRAY COURT DATE #1
Monday, 14 June 2010 MURRAY COURT DATE #2
It is 70 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Monday, 14 June 2010 MURRAY COURT DATE #2
Monday, 23 August 2010 MURRAY COURT DATE #3
It is 70 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Monday, 23 August 2010 MURRAY COURT DATE #3
Tuesday, 26 October 2010 JUDGE/ATTORNEYS MEET
It is 64 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Tuesday, 26 October 2010 JUDGE/ATTORNEYS MEET
It is 70 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date

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I've been watching these dates for a long time, looking for answers to BACK's mysterious numbers. When the 4th lot of 70 days appeared, well, one simply has to question if this is planned or if it's divine intervention. What are the odds of all these 70 day time periods? Off the charts? How many coincidences can there be since all this began?

Maybe Foreverking can give us a heads up on how these dates are set as she has worked in the LA DA's office as an attorney.

@ Foreverking... a US attorney friend from the East Coast who works in criminal justice told me that it's unheard of for someone to be arrested and arraigned on the same day - do you know if this is the case in California?
It can happen, if the attorneys have a pre arranged deal to have the high profile client turn themsleves in and be arraigned on the same day due to security reasons.

Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: September 12, 2010, 10:28:49 PM »
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "looking4truth"
Quote from: "2 Bad"
Speaking of "BACK" I came across this article tonight:

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"This article has 1 comment

look who is BACK

By jesse p.. Posted September 12 2010 at 2:14 AM."

Eeks yes it says jesse p.
 Jessie Presley? Is this what I'm seeing?
If this has been posted I apologize, I could n't find it anywhere and it kinda fits here with the "BACK" part :-) Yes?  :o  :o

Quote from: "Diana77"
Quote from: "2 Bad"
Speaking of "BACK" I came across this article tonight:

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3 comment  :shock: :

The Truth will Prevail, Justice will be done. Just need to KEEP WATCHIN'...  

By Lisa.. Posted September 12 2010 at 9:07 PM.

The post time  9+7=16 1+6=7   :)

Wow thanks for sharing this with us.

Look at who else posted a comment possibly:

With all the ingredients ---- just let it simmer ---- the "pie" will one day be done ---- and in that moment -->
our HIStory books will be updated.......


By S.T.U.D.Y... Posted September 13 2010 at 12:27 AM.

If this is a true comment from TS, then wouldn't this mean that TS is BACK? Hmm...this is getting very interesting.

could be????
let it simmer...
I'm sorry but I don't think this has anything to do with BACK from MJJC. The posts are all recent and it's most likely just someone playing games.

Of all the informers and clues BACK is the most interesting because he started posting 3 years ago. He's never asked for followers, he does not tweet, he has no facebook or myspace. He just posted the clues and vented whenever something bothered him.

There were 4 numbers in his 7 day theory post. The quote from his post is below. I think the key to the hoax is in those numbers. I know MJ had a thing for 777. He wore it on his clothes a day before he faked his death and its a rumor that it was on the crown placed on his coffin at the burial.  But I think he had a thing for numbers in general. Those 4 numbers mean something or BACK would not have posted them. I've put the quote from his post below. Does anyone have any suggestions?

relapse...back @ Jun 25 2006, 11:54 Today, 10:06 PM.. 1+6=7
62 ..76...813...21

Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: September 12, 2010, 04:08:24 PM »
Quote from: "ijcsly"
i'd saved this one, dont know if this is what you're talking about

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Thanks. I love how we support each other on this forum. It's all for L.O.V.E.

Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: September 12, 2010, 03:06:15 PM »
I use the same name but I have not been banned from MJJC. But I can't search BACK's post. As a matter of fact I can't serach for anything on MJJC.

For anyone who has been following BACK for a while. I remember right after June 25th there was a member on MJJC who started a thread about BACK. Her thoughts were that BACK was MJ and the 7 day theory was his way of letting them know he was going to fake his death. Many of the members felt the same way, but some thought she was just upset because MJ had died.  If anyone saved the link to that thread please post it here.  Since my search tool on that site is not working, maybe someone can search the term "killuminati"  or "7 day theory".and I think the thread will show up.

Thanks in advance.

« on: September 11, 2010, 06:16:58 PM »
It took him a year to address this? Please DD you are not fooling me. You had plenty of time to squash this, instead you put up a strange video with two faces. You ignored the messages from people who asked you about it and you have NEVER said it was not MJ on LKL.
As a matter of fact, after reading what he wrote, I question if it was DD who wrote it. Maybe MJ asked him to post it. Maybe MJ thought it was time DD responded

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