This Is It Doubles.........

[YoungMack]

What info marumjj???

[Australian MJ BeLIEver]

She is talking about what Mack overly confidently claims in post #13.

I too won't be going back and forth. Besides I don't do "ignorant" anymore life is too short.
One suggestion. Drop the cockiness and know it all attitude and you will learn more about MJ than you could have hoped for.

[YoungMack]

Woman u dont know anything about me.... hahahahah ill just stay how
i am.... Thanks though.

[YoungMack]

Im spereading my opinion... if you dont like it thats cool. Just
dont act like you know my personality by posting my thoughts on
thia website... THAT is ignorant... ty and come again

[MaryK]

Aussie and Mack, please sort this out in private, by pm.

Thank you.

[Australian MJ BeLIEver]

Not sure where you are from but to address someone as woman is offensive.

It's not your difference of opinion that I take issue with I assure you. It's the delivery.

Have seen it in a number of your posts.

A little bit of grace would go a long way

[Australian MJ BeLIEver]

Sorry Mary saw you posted while I was posting.

No worries

I still stand by what I say and make no apologies but will not post further to mack

[MJonmind]

YoungMack, I honestly thought like you in the beginning, and especially when I went to the theater and saw it for the first time. I cringed every time Orange Pants danced, because I thought it was so poor an imitation.  But over time, and watching it over in pieces here in the forum, analyzing it, discussing it the way we did here, I completely changed my mind. I 100% believe it was all Michael, but he was as usual doing little things to purposely throw people into confusion about his identity. He's been doing this for decades, not to say that he hasn't used doubles for certain things like leading away the paps, and doing disappearing acts on stage.  He's a master of illusion, disguise, etc. but I don't believe he will give away the prize chief roles to another. He is the star, the genius, the master, and as he sings "second to none".

I appreciate having you here, because you've kept your cool and respect, even though people disagreed with you! Everyone here appreciates fair and pleasant discussion and debate, even when there's a disagreement. NO one wants to hear when it gets nasty.
"Woman", is abrupt, and sexist to women, though. Please don't use that term here.

Blessings!  Enjoy the mind-altering adventure of everything MJ has planned and prepared for us, in all it's magical genius brilliance!

[YoungMack]

I cant believe how rediculous you are being. I came here to post my thoughts and ooinions
About MJ not to make friends... Some of you are awesome but im not gonna have anyone consider my opinion ignorant.... Thats disrespect..... so i in turn disrespectd u!!!!! If you dont like my posts or beliefs in this hoax thats cool...... Dont say im wrong or right or ignorant for thinking it.... THAT is ignorant. Who made any of you experts on this hoax anyways????? None of us know if we are right ir wrong because the FACTS arent there. Thanks for the debate though.

[paula-c]

U should rewatch it and pay attention to the dancing.... Mj has never and will never dance like that. He paid 4 million to get plasti. Surgery for one of his impersonators to look more like him..... so the looks are not hard to double but the moves are one of a kind

nobody from that group is an expert and is owner of absolute truth, the only thing that we have are theories.

As you know that Michael would not make a thing as well? :icon_eek:

And finally, try to keep the discussion on cordial terms

[Australian MJ BeLIEver]

@MJonmind. your humble and mild nature remind me of the qualities i need to work on   :icon_redface: :icon_redface: :icon_redface:

@youngmack. upon seeing MJonmind's example of mild temperdness, it made me realise that i errd when i inferred you are ignorant.

please note, it wast the opinion i took issue with. it was your delivery. something one should be mindful of

however, i suggested you show some grace... and upon reading my own comments, i see that i did not display it myself when i called you ignorant. for that i apologise.

i appreciate that you believe that MJ did not feature in TII and I differ in opinion. you opinion i respect. its the way it was said that rubbed me up the wrong way, but perhaps it simply got lost in translation

nevertheless i extend peace to you

:smiley-vault-misc-150:

[Dontwalkaway]

I think there are all types of illusions.  Long before the movie TII, during the movie and still going.  It's designed to teach us all kinds of lessons.   Like don't believe everything you see and hear.  Don't judge a book by it's cover.    Telling truth from fact and so on.............

Thanks Mike             :th_bravo:

[YoungMack]

Mjonmymind i feel ya... i didnt think like that at first when i saw it but something was weird
i got an awkward feeling when i watched it at first and i didnt know why. It wasnt until i started watching and watching it with different intensions everytime to try and point out different things i may have not seen at first. Then joe jackson said that about the doubles and it msde me watch it again...... then BOOM it hit me when i watched the dancing and just weird mannerisms. I studied the cameras, angles, scenes, each stage character orange pants etc......,. Once i started watching it was ovious to me. Then i started thinking........ That would be what i wanted
To do as an artist..... make a movie about myself but direct it and teach the actors or impersonators how to be EXACTLY like me without actually having to act in it. Sees EVERY SHOT
Andhow it looks on camera.

[YoungMack]

As for the drama.... i never had a problen w anyone and def wont be disrespected
by anyone. I am an easygoing laid back dude. I just want to figure this damn hoax out
And make sure my boy, inpspiration, and brother MJ is ok.  I accept your apology aussie i appreciate it. There is no reason for anyone to get upset at someones elses theory or
opinion because NO ONE knows the truth not souza, pearl jr, mo, front, back....... Only God
and the people MJ want to know are the only ones who have the truth.

[YoungMack]

And for the record.... The only stage character from the movie I think could possiblly be MJ
Is the MAIN one who they show 85% of the time on stage. And in my opinion its the double that MJ paid for his plastic surgeory who was already an impersonator who had been practicing being like MJ for years..... That seema to be a legit reason to pay that much for someone to look more like you. But thats just my opinion. None of us..... which SUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!