The Michael Jackson/Lisa Marie Presley marriage certificate

[MissG]

You are talking about MJ having legally 2 passports? Makes no sense.

[Serenitys_Dream]

I really have doubts that this was a real marriage and how much LMP could have known about what was actually going on in Michael's life. I think that there are other reasons for this marriage and some things we need to consider.

As has already been shown:
The names on the Marriage Certificate are ALL spelled incorrectly.
The signatures of both Michael and LMP differ from their "usual" signatures.
This was a quickly done marriage and an actual romance was not really reported by the press. I find this hard to believe when Michael was under such intense scrutiny at the time.

Some other things:

The website for the painting entitled "the Lovers" by Brett Livingstone-Strong says that the artist introduced the couple in 1992.

"In November 1992, they meet at Brett Livingstone's house"
Brett, the great connector, considered introducing Lisa to Michael. “She had the talent as well as the beauty and the name, so I thought Wow! The sky is the limit. What an image! I had known Michael for six years or more, and I thought maybe I could introduce Lisa to Michael Jackson. I thought, Hey, the person to get is Michael Jackson, because he’s an artist, instead of dealing with businessmen who would just categorize her and work her way up.” Michael had a new record label, Brett knew, and was looking for exciting, undiscovered talent. Who better than Lisa Marie Presley? “I didn’t discuss this with anyone,” said Brett. “I just thought about it and went about my business and thought that sometime in the future Lisa would like to have a conversation with Michael. Lisa wanted to emerge a full-blown star, and Michael Jackson, Brett believed, could help her.

Several months after the idea occurred to him, Brett telephoned Lisa, who was taking courses at the Scientology center in Clearwater, Florida. He said, “Lisa, if you’re really serious about your career, why don’t I put you in touch with Michael Jackson?….I think you should meet him and play your music and sing for him, and I think he could really encourage and inspire you on a direction you could take.” Brett told her that Michael had his own company, Nation Records, sponsored by Sony, and that he could “really launch her big time.” Lisa was intrigued.

Brett’s next step was to telephone Michael Jackson. “I said, ‘Michael, what would you say if I found talent for you that had the potential to be number one in the world in the recording industry—beautiful girl, great voice and also a reputation that would be a public relations dream come true?’ and he said, ‘Who are you talking about?’ So I said, ‘Lisa Presley.’ And he said, ‘What? She can’t sing!’ and I said, ‘She can.’ And then I asked, ‘Have you ever met Lisa?’ and he said no.” The conversation, recalled Brett, was brief, followed by lots of other conversations about it. Michael was “amazed at first, and then said, ‘Well get her to send me a tape.’ ”

At the time, neither Michael nor Lisa recalled their fleeting meeting introduction backstage, at the Sahara Tahoe when Lisa was six and Michael was sixteen. Lisa’s close childhood friend Myrna Smith, who was with Jerry and Joe Esposito when they took Lisa to that long-ago concert, confirmed this. “Lisa didn’t even remember meeting Michael as a child,” Myrna said. “She asked me, ‘Did I ever meet Michael Jackson?’ and I said, ‘Don’t you remember? We took you to see the Jacksons.’ ”
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In an interview with Ebony magazine interview in October 1994 this is what Michael said about their relationship and these things don't seem to be the truth:

Three years ago when I started the 'Dangerous' album, Michael said their relationship reached a new plateau. "We sort of went out together. Then we would talk on the phone...I noticed that we had come closer. We went to Las Vegas for 'The Jackson Family  Honors' (1993). We later travelled to Atlanta for (former President) Jimmy Carter (March & may 1993)to visit children, but no one knew she was there with me. The brilliant thing about us is that we were often together but did not let anyone know about it. We got to see each other that way over the years. We were really quiet and comfortable with each other. That's pretty much how the dating started happening." It was during this period that Michael said that their relationship changed from being good friends to lovers.
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Dangerous
Dangerous is the eighth studio album by Michael Jackson, released on November 22, 1991. According to the sleeve notes on the later remastered edition of the album, recording sessions began in Los Angeles, California at Ocean Way/Record One Studio 2 on June 25, 1990. The sessions ended at Larrabee North and Ocean Way Studio on October 29, 1991, being the most extensive recording project of Jackson's career at the time (over 16 months compared to the usual 6 spent for his previous three studio albums).
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Danny Keough
On October 3, 1988, Presley then twenty years old married her musician boyfriend Danny Keough. During their six-year relationship, they had two children together.
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Danny Keough is an American Scientologist musician and actor. Keough best known for being the former husband of Elvis Presley's daughter Lisa Marie.

Lisa Marie Presley and Danny Keough met at the Scientology Celebrity Center. They dated publicly for 3 years before getting engaged, and had a Scientologist wedding at the Church of Scientology. The couple had a 3 month honeymoon on a private yacht (Owned by the Church of Scientology), accompanied by members of the Scientological press and various Scientologist celebrities.

After returning from their 3 month honeymoon , the couple had two children- Danielle and Benjamin Keough. The children were delivered in "silent birth"- a process in which the mother is discouraged from speaking or screaming, and the rest of the people present are expected to remain quiet.

In 1994, the couple split up. They remained friends, but Keough did press for sole custody when Presley married Michael Jackson. Keough remained the bass player for Presley's band, and the two remain close friends.
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So that means that it was started before November 1991 and Michael is saying that they were involved with each other at that time but Lisa was married to Danny Keough at that time and in fact her 2nd child Benjamin was born on October 21, 1992 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login). Their would have been no intimate relationship between Michael at LMP at that time and other reports such as the Brett Livingstone-Strong one are saying that they did not even become introduced until some time in 1992. This is also implying that Michael and LMP were having an affair for several years prior to actually getting married and that becoming public. I highly doubt that Keough would have remained in LMP's band and friendly if she had been cheating on him for years with Michael.

If Michael and LMP were having a longtime affair then what about this?

Question: Was Michael before he was with Lisa-Marie still a virgin?
Answer:In 2005 a collection of phone recordings of Michael speaking to a woman named Glenda surfaced. Glenda was the mother of a kid that Michael used to hang out with. Glenda's husband was recording the calls because obviously, he wasnt an honest person. In those tapes, Michael states that he had never had sex, and had never really been in love, the tapes were recorded in the middle of 1992. He started dating Lisa Marie in 1993. In fact, at one point, Glenda says to Michael "Your turning 34, you've never had sex" and Michael agrees, and goes on to say that he wont do it till he's married, and that he's never really been in love before. So unless he changed his mind between Mid 1992 and when he started dating Lisa in 1993, then he was probably a virgin when he started dating Lisa.
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So again, we have the Glenda tapes in which Michael states he has never been in love nor had sex, yet in the Ebony magazine he is suggesting that he has been in a secret long term, intimate relationship with LMP since sometime in 1991. From the Glenda tapes, we also know that Michael was affected by his father's promiscuity, as well as his brothers in the early days of the J5 and how negatively Joe's and Jermaine's extramarital affairs affected him. I find it extremely hard to believe that Michael would then turn around and become intimately involved with a married woman, which is what LMP was, between the years of 1991 - 1994.

Is there anything else that may support that the relationship between Michael and LMP is not as it has been presented?

During the 20 month marriage between Michael and LMP they maintained separate residences. Michael lived at Neverland and LMP lived in her own home 90 miles away in the Hidden Hills community.

We know this from at least Two different sources: Travis Payne and People Magazine.

Travis Payne
Travis Payne (born July 5, 1971) is an American choreographer, director, and producer. He is best known for working with Michael Jackson...He has been honored with the MTV Video Music Award for Best Choreography four times for his work with En Vogue, Salt-N-Pepa as well as Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson on the music video /short-film on “Scream” which is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the most expensive music video ever made.
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Scream
"Scream"/"Childhood" is the lead single from Michael Jackson's ninth studio album, HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I where "Scream" is track one and "Childhood" is track ten on the second disc of the album HIStory Continues. The A-side, "Scream", is a duet with his younger sister and R&B-pop singer, Janet Jackson, while the corresponding B-side, "Childhood", a solo piece. The single was released on May 31, 1995. The 4:46 minute music video for "Scream" was choreographed by Travis Payne, LaVelle Smith Jnr, Tina Landon on July 28, 1994.
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In an a video interview with Raffles Van Exel, Travis Payne talks about rehearsing for the video 'Scream' @ about 0:25 of the video he says "Or even during 'Scream' we worked at Lisa Marie Presley's house."

[youtube:s4bgnnpd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV6S3Ktcag4[/youtube:s4bgnnpd]

Is there another reason why LMP may have filed for "divorce" on January 18, 1996 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)?

In People magazine:

After 20 Months of Marriage, Lisa Marie Does the Thinkable and Calls the Whole Thing Off (please note the articles title doesn't say the "Unthinkable" but instead the "Thinkable". That is extremely odd phrasing...)
February 05, 1996
"When they took to the airwaves with Diane Sawyer to declare their mutual attraction before 60 million PrimeTime Live viewers last June, they were often living in separate residences. Instead of setting up housekeeping with Jackson at his 27,000-acre Santa Ynez (Calif.) Valley Neverland ranch, Presley settled into a rustic $2.6 million home 90 miles away in Hidden Hills, a community completely enclosed in gates and patrolled by armed guards."

"They spent a lot of time away from each other, and both realized it wasn't working out," says a source close to him. Jackson had hoped to make a joint statement announcing the split in the near future, says the source, and is only upset "about Lisa Marie's jumping the gun."

Many observers, of course, are still dumbfounded it ever began in the first place. It was Presley who first offered her friendship to Jackson—at the height of the child-molestation scandal in 1993. While the world was heaping scorn on the star, Presley came on strong. Though she had met Jackson only briefly as a child, at a Jackson 5 concert in Las Vegas, she began showering him with notes, balloons and gifts. "Lisa Marie wanted to help Michael with his life," says the Presley source. "She fell in love with him."

Jackson was reportedly slow to respond. But as pressure mounted—culminating in the cancellation of his world tour in November 1993 and his subsequent admission to drug rehab—he came to welcome Presley's support.

In January 1994, Jackson settled the child-molestation civil suit, and the following month he and Presley began publicly dating. In April, Presley announced plans to divorce her husband of six years (they had been separated for several months), and on May 6 she and Keough flew to the Dominican Republic to finalize the split. On May 26, Presley returned to the island—to wed Jackson.

They differed sharply on other things too, such as Jackson's passion for playing with children. While he happily spent hours pushing her kids and his nephews on swings, and Rollerblading with them across Neverland's grounds, Presley, when she was around at all, often chose to sit it out. By the time Jackson fell ill in December, Presley felt enough was enough.

For the moment, Presley's spirits, friends say, are good. "She's disappointed," says the close source, "but she's not crying in her soup." Instead, she is "focusing on being a good mother," says Paul Bloch—which may, according to Liz Smith, mean reuniting with her children's father. But Presley's camp denies she still has a romantic interest in Keough. "He played no part in the breakup," says the source. Still, the two have remained close—vacationing together, as friends, sources say, at Hawaii's Mauna Lani hotel last June.
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The answer is yes. LMP was inheriting the Elvis estate at age 30 and there doesn't seem to have been a prenuptial agreement between herself and Michael. To protect herself from having the marriage actually revealed as a hoax and prevent Michael from making any claims against the Elvis estate, a divorce would have to be finalized before LMP's 30th birthday. LMP turned 30 on Feb 1 1998 and depending on what Michael chose to do, the divorce could have been a lengthy one.

With so many contradicting stories, including statements by Michael and others close to both of them, It seems that this whole "love story" has been fabricated. This is my opinion based on the above but I don't know for a fact that this is the case, it just seems very plausable.

And finally, it is highly unusual that this marriage certificate has surfaced anyway. This is the personal property of Michael and LMP and it surfaced at an auction. Who was auctioning this item?

Original Michael Jackson-Lisa Marie Presley 1994 marriage certificate to be sold Jan. 22-24
Nov 09, 2009
The original marriage certificate issued to Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley on May 26, 1994 in the Dominican Republic will be sold Jan. 22-24, 2010, by Philip Weiss Auctions. The certificate was signed by both Jackson and Presley.
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In my opinion, the marriage certificate has been publicly released so that we would question the validity of Michael's and LMP's marriage to begin with. Perhaps we are supposed to see that there is something else going on between Michael and LMP and it isn't actually a "marriage", as in man and wife but a "marriage" for another purpose.

[mjlmpicons]

Wow...... all this back and forth on legality, paperwork, etc......
-- DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK THIS IS THE LEAST BIT IMPORTANT. .....
-- THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER IS UNDENIABLE... DO ANY OF YOU THINK THAT MJ OR LMP WOULD REQUIRE OR NEED SOME PIECE OF PAPER TO SOLIDIFY THEIR LOVE...... OF COURSE NOT .......
--
THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS FACT .... of course there are those that would fantasize that all of this was NOT REAL and that for all of these years not only LMP & MJ went along with this "lie" but that all those that REALLY KNEW & SPENT TIME WITH THEM, friends, family, peers, photographers, business partners, etc would also maintain this "lie"..... GIVE ME A BREAK ...... what would be the point....
-- THE TRUTH CAN HIT SOMEONE IN THE FACE AND YET THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD OF THEIR OWN ---- not much can be done about that ....
--
we each have a right to express our opinion, I respect what each of you feel, think or believe, but at some point COMMON SENSE has to set in....
--
there are simply too many REAL people that were in their midst and in the KNOW that could come forward to refute, if what many have written about and what LMP and MJ have confirmed themselves about THE TRUTH OF THEIR MARRIAGE AND RELATIONSHIP..... these people saw it first hand, no one here can say that.  Just food for thought.

[MsTrinity333]

Wow...... all this back and forth on legality, paperwork, etc......
-- DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK THIS IS THE LEAST BIT IMPORTANT. .....
-- THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER IS UNDENIABLE... DO ANY OF YOU THINK THAT MJ OR LMP WOULD REQUIRE OR NEED SOME PIECE OF PAPER TO SOLIDIFY THEIR LOVE...... OF COURSE NOT .......
--
THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS FACT .... of course there are those that would fantasize that all of this was NOT REAL and that for all of these years not only LMP & MJ went along with this "lie" but that all those that REALLY KNEW & SPENT TIME WITH THEM, friends, family, peers, photographers, business partners, etc would also maintain this "lie"..... GIVE ME A BREAK ...... what would be the point....
-- THE TRUTH CAN HIT SOMEONE IN THE FACE AND YET THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD OF THEIR OWN ---- not much can be done about that ....
--
we each have a right to express our opinion, I respect what each of you feel, think or believe, but at some point COMMON SENSE has to set in....
--
there are simply too many REAL people that were in their midst and in the KNOW that could come forward to refute, if what many have written about and what LMP and MJ have confirmed themselves about THE TRUTH OF THEIR MARRIAGE AND RELATIONSHIP..... these people saw it first hand, no one here can say that.  Just food for thought.

I agree with you.  Liz, Donald Trump, Rabi S, JRT, Karen F, the Jackson family just to name a few others.  I believe their relationship was very real; regardless of who introduced them or what time the general public officially found out.  The rest is tabloid BS.  Seeing Lisa clear the past and admit she really wasn't indifferent on O was a confirmation for me of what I've always known or felt.  So were the sunflowers.  But some people seem to be stuck on the "legality" of the marriage & authenticity of the sworn statement; namely Michael Joe Jackson vs. the Michael Joseph Jackson signature.  But I have yet to see any legal proof these documents are fake.

As MJ said, 'How can you make light of my marriage?  I love Lisa. Why won't people believe that?  Why won't people let me be happy?...
She's my wife, I love her.'

Why indeed.
L.O.V.E. Eternally

[*Mo*]

Wow...... all this back and forth on legality, paperwork, etc......
-- DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK THIS IS THE LEAST BIT IMPORTANT. .....
-- THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER IS UNDENIABLE... DO ANY OF YOU THINK THAT MJ OR LMP WOULD REQUIRE OR NEED SOME PIECE OF PAPER TO SOLIDIFY THEIR LOVE...... OF COURSE NOT .......
--
THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS FACT .... of course there are those that would fantasize that all of this was NOT REAL and that for all of these years not only LMP & MJ went along with this "lie" but that all those that REALLY KNEW & SPENT TIME WITH THEM, friends, family, peers, photographers, business partners, etc would also maintain this "lie"..... GIVE ME A BREAK ...... what would be the point....
-- THE TRUTH CAN HIT SOMEONE IN THE FACE AND YET THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD OF THEIR OWN ---- not much can be done about that ....
--
we each have a right to express our opinion, I respect what each of you feel, think or believe, but at some point COMMON SENSE has to set in....
--
there are simply too many REAL people that were in their midst and in the KNOW that could come forward to refute, if what many have written about and what LMP and MJ have confirmed themselves about THE TRUTH OF THEIR MARRIAGE AND RELATIONSHIP..... these people saw it first hand, no one here can say that.  Just food for thought.

I agree with you.  Liz, Donald Trump, Rabi S, JRT, Karen F, the Jackson family just to name a few others.  I believe their relationship was very real; regardless of who introduced them or what time the general public officially found out.  The rest is tabloid BS.  Seeing Lisa clear the past and admit she really wasn't indifferent on O was a confirmation for me of what I've always known or felt.  So were the sunflowers.  But some people seem to be stuck on the "legality" of the marriage & authenticity of the sworn statement; namely Michael Joe Jackson vs. the Michael Joseph Jackson signature.  But I have yet to see any legal proof these documents are fake.

As MJ said, 'How can you make light of my marriage?  I love Lisa. Why won't people believe that?  Why won't people let me be happy?...
She's my wife, I love her.'

Why indeed.
L.O.V.E. Eternally

This website is called Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.  It's an investigation website, one in which people are invited to forensically examine the obviously strange and discordant events of June 25th and beyond.  No stone is left unturned, also not in the MJ/LMP marriage subject.  

When I bump into a document which is supposed a legal document which, if legit, has far-reaching effects, but contains multiple incorrect spelled names then I see every reason to investigate it.

No one ever said that if this document turns out to be fake it means that Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley didn't love each other.  Those are two completely different things.  I don't know if they loved each other and it's non of my business, I just want to know if this document is legit.

I find it amazing that this document is all over the internet and was allegedly auctioned, while the marriage certificate of Michael Jackson and Debbie Rowe to this very day still has not emerged.

[MissG]

True. I looked in google to find the document of Debbie and Michael to compare to this one and nothing came up. I thought that it could be because he married both of them at different places, so the "latin" one would be more expose for different reasons (inefficiency among them).

Thi makes me think that the certificate goin for auction could be fake and the original one is somewhere else.

[MsTrinity333]

Wow...... all this back and forth on legality, paperwork, etc......
-- DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK THIS IS THE LEAST BIT IMPORTANT. .....
-- THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER IS UNDENIABLE... DO ANY OF YOU THINK THAT MJ OR LMP WOULD REQUIRE OR NEED SOME PIECE OF PAPER TO SOLIDIFY THEIR LOVE...... OF COURSE NOT .......
--
THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS FACT .... of course there are those that would fantasize that all of this was NOT REAL and that for all of these years not only LMP & MJ went along with this "lie" but that all those that REALLY KNEW & SPENT TIME WITH THEM, friends, family, peers, photographers, business partners, etc would also maintain this "lie"..... GIVE ME A BREAK ...... what would be the point....
-- THE TRUTH CAN HIT SOMEONE IN THE FACE AND YET THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD OF THEIR OWN ---- not much can be done about that ....
--
we each have a right to express our opinion, I respect what each of you feel, think or believe, but at some point COMMON SENSE has to set in....
--
there are simply too many REAL people that were in their midst and in the KNOW that could come forward to refute, if what many have written about and what LMP and MJ have confirmed themselves about THE TRUTH OF THEIR MARRIAGE AND RELATIONSHIP..... these people saw it first hand, no one here can say that.  Just food for thought.

I agree with you.  Liz, Donald Trump, Rabi S, JRT, Karen F, the Jackson family just to name a few others.  I believe their relationship was very real; regardless of who introduced them or what time the general public officially found out.  The rest is tabloid BS.  Seeing Lisa clear the past and admit she really wasn't indifferent on O was a confirmation for me of what I've always known or felt.  So were the sunflowers.  But some people seem to be stuck on the "legality" of the marriage & authenticity of the sworn statement; namely Michael Joe Jackson vs. the Michael Joseph Jackson signature.  But I have yet to see any legal proof these documents are fake.

As MJ said, 'How can you make light of my marriage?  I love Lisa. Why won't people believe that?  Why won't people let me be happy?...
She's my wife, I love her.'

Why indeed.
L.O.V.E. Eternally

This website is called Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.  It's an investigation website, one in which people are invited to forensically examine the obviously strange and discordant events of June 25th and beyond.  No stone is left unturned, also not in the MJ/LMP marriage subject.  

When I bump into a document which is supposed a legal document which, if legit, has far-reaching effects, but contains multiple incorrect spelled names then I see every reason to investigate it.

No one ever said that if this document turns out to be fake it means that Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley didn't love each other.  Those are two completely different things.  I don't know if they loved each other and it's non of my business, I just want to know if this document is legit.

I find it amazing that this document is all over the internet and was allegedly auctioned, while the marriage certificate of Michael Jackson and Debbie Rowe to this very day still has not emerged.

I understand the purpose of this forum.  I was agreeing with mjlmpicons about the previous post; that the relationship between MJ & LMP both emotionally & legally is not fake.

All I'm saying is Innocent until proven guilty; legal until proven otherwise.  Spelling "errors" may not mean anything as the people who's names were misspelled by the office typing up the document never signed anywhere.  It's just info. filling in the blanks.

We've established:
The Marriage Certificate includes the complete names of the spouses, the evidence of their written consent.  A declaration they have been united in matrimony and the date of the celebration and the signatures of the Officer, the spouses and the witnesses. After the celebration the marriage is registered in the appropriate civil registries.
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AFTER A CIVIL MARRIAGE CEREMONY:
Parties will be given a document that proves the wedding took place. You then need to request a marriage certificate from the local Justice of the Peace. The document issued by the Justice of the Peace is a valid marriage certificate.
A sworn statement is a document that attorneys acquire for verification of the authenticity and legality of a certificate

SWORN STATEMENT:
Is a statement that is given under oath or under penalty of perjury. It can be oral or written. It is similar to an affidavit and the only difference is that it is not witnessed and sealed by a notary public. Usually the person making the statement signs a separate endorsement present at the end of the document stating that the declaration is made under penalty of perjury.  

For an official party to put the seal and sign on behalf of the state is definitely serious deal. It is just something to verify that a legal action such as a marriage was actual; Proven with a seal and a witness or witnesses. Which of course, was Lisa's former brother-in law.

But I did come across some interesting info on the web:

Any person may change his name as long as the change is not for a fraudulent purpose. Reasons for a name change are varied and personal. The person may dislike his given name, want to disassociate himself from a former lifestyle, or may need to change it for security and protection purposes.  If your state allows name change by common usage, you may simply begin using your new name. The following reasons are likely to be considered good reasons by the court: to shorten your name, to distance yourself from your family or to use your stage name...

Can I obtain a birth certificate with my new name?
Yes. However, the laws in your state may only permit issuance of an amended birth certificate rather than a new original birth certificate.

Is it possible to have a new passport issued reflecting my name change?
Yes. You must apply for an amended passport by completing a Passport Amendment/Validation Application (Form DS-19). Additionally, you will have to provide a certified copy of the court order and your old passport.

I do not want to bother changing my name. Can I just use different versions of my name or initials?
Yes. Generally, it is sufficient to describe a person by any known or acceptable abbreviation of her name, and that includes initials. All states consider a person’s name to be her first and last name, allowing the substitution of either the correct initials or full middle name.

Can I start signing documents with my nickname?
Yes, as long as your nickname is commonly derived from your first name. For example, if your first name is William, it is acceptable to sign Bill on your documents. Your nickname must clearly identify you or the court will require additional proof that you are the person represented by the nickname in the event of any misunderstanding as to identity. To avoid any such misunderstandings, it is better to sign any important legal documents with your full name.

The law favors first & last names-middle names are not considered important[/b]. Additionally, if a middle name is omitted from your signature, it is of no consequence your signature is still valid.  Middle names are considered a "nickname.

Your signature does not have to match what's on your birth certificate. you can adopt anything as your legal signature--it doesn't even have to include your name (you know, the whole just marking an X to indicate a signature).  A legal signature is basically a mark made by you which signifies your intent to agree with whatever the item is that you are signing.  Your legal signature is whatever you normally sign. It doesn't have to match your name.  Most people sign things with the short version, and save the long version for taxes and so forth.

In general, your signature does not have to be your full name for legal purposes (contracts, etc.) General contract law - which for signatures is called "The Statute of Frauds"(yes honestly) - stipulates that a "signature" merely means any authentication which identifies the party to be charged. Even a letterhead or an "X" or nowadays am electronic signature (in some cases) will do, provided it is placed on the writing with the intent to authenticate it and it is the mark you usually sign - without an attempt to defraud.  Some Federal guidelines want your signature to contain your "full legal name", but these are more regulations, really, than laws.
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Your signature will... or has... changed many times over the course of your lifetime... depending on your age, marital status, or social standing. It can even change, based on whether your career is rising or is in decline. When a middle initial or middle name is included in the signature, a sense of personal pride is exhibited.  It's a very formal and official way of presenting yourself.  
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What does your signature say about you?  This is cool.
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Sorry this is so long... I hope it may explain some things.  

[paula-c]

Legal options for marriage in Dominican Republic
The following information is only as guidance to American citizens who are considering marriage Dominican Republic.  The staff of the diplomatic mission or the consular officers have legal authority to weddings.  Marriages may not be concluded in the United States Embassy, nor in the Consulate of the United States in Dominican Republic.
General requirements for marriage
Marriage in the Dominican Republic, the spouses must have fulfilled a statutory minimum age (16 for men, 15 for women), be legally unmarried, and must grant your consent for the Union.  The non fulfilment of one of these requirements can bring as a consequence invalidation of marriage from the Dominican authorities.
In addition, foreigners wishing to marry in the Dominican Republic must submit the following documents:
Original passport and copy of page of the Passport; biographical information
Copies of the last entry stamps
Dominican residency test (if you are not a resident of the Dominican Republic must pay an additional fee and must present your tourist card)
Statement sworn before a notary public, claiming his bachelorship and eligibility to marry; the affidavit then you need to be legalized in the offices of the Attorney of the Republic.  If the affidavit made before a notary in the United States. U.s., this then you need to be legalized in the nearest Consulate Dominican in the United States. UU.  (In the past, the Embassy of the United States.) UU. Let us citizens do this affidavit of eligibility to marry (letter bachelorship) before a consular official.  The Embassy has discontinued this practice for some years now, since local civil official interpreted this document as a certificate that the Embassy had verified the content of this Declaration of eligibility, where the consular officer was only acting as a witness that the individual in question had made such a declaration.  American citizens who need to fill this requirement must be submitted before a notary public's Dominican - as described above.
Copy of your certificate of birth and legal translation of the certificate;
If it is divorced, copy of the certificate of divorce and legal translation of the certificate;
2 witnesses (not relatives).


Not to marry before of the dissolution of a previous marriage.  Divorced women not collapse new only up to ten (10) months after that divorce has come to be final, unless her new husband is it who is has divorced.
The civil status officer at the time of the celebration of marriage, may exempt the spouses of any of these requirements for relevant reasons.  Such waiver must be in writing explaining the causes and should be reflected in the certificate and marriage certificate



Given the last paragraph and considering that LMP divorced in 1994 and then marries the 26/05/1994, I could have sought a less complicated place to get married.


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[MissG]

Touché  

[MsTrinity333]

Touché  

1.   The parties must express their free will to marry;
2.   Men between 16 and 18 years old, or women between 15 and 18 years old may get married without the consent of their parents. Any required consent must be in writing and notarized, unless the person required to give this consent does so while attending the wedding ceremony; and
3.   A man younger than 16 and a woman younger than 15 may not get married, even with their parents’ consent, although a judge may grant an exception for significant reasons.
4.   No person may be married before a prior marriage is dissolved. A divorced woman cannot get married until 10 months after her divorce has become final, unless her intended husband is the same person she has divorced.
The government official performing the civil ceremony has the authority, at the time of the ceremony, to waive any of the above requirements.Such a waiver must be made in writing and outline the basis of the waiver.

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Touche' yourself... :lol:

[MissG]

Touché  

1.   The parties must express their free will to marry;
2.   Men between 16 and 18 years old, or women between 15 and 18 years old may get married without the consent of their parents. Any required consent must be in writing and notarized, unless the person required to give this consent does so while attending the wedding ceremony; and
3.   A man younger than 16 and a woman younger than 15 may not get married, even with their parents’ consent, although a judge may grant an exception for significant reasons.
4.   No person may be married before a prior marriage is dissolved. A divorced woman cannot get married until 10 months after her divorce has become final, unless her intended husband is the same person she has divorced.
The government official performing the civil ceremony has the authority, at the time of the ceremony, to waive any of the above requirements.Such a waiver must be made in writing and outline the basis of the waiver.

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Touche' yourself... :lol:

But the marriage will NOT be LEGAL, even if any of the above requirements are waived  
Double touché for you  

[MsTrinity333]

Touché  

1.   The parties must express their free will to marry;
2.   Men between 16 and 18 years old, or women between 15 and 18 years old may get married without the consent of their parents. Any required consent must be in writing and notarized, unless the person required to give this consent does so while attending the wedding ceremony; and
3.   A man younger than 16 and a woman younger than 15 may not get married, even with their parents’ consent, although a judge may grant an exception for significant reasons.
4.   No person may be married before a prior marriage is dissolved. A divorced woman cannot get married until 10 months after her divorce has become final, unless her intended husband is the same person she has divorced.
The government official performing the civil ceremony has the authority, at the time of the ceremony, to waive any of the above requirements.Such a waiver must be made in writing and outline the basis of the waiver.

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Touche' yourself... :lol:

But the marriage will NOT be LEGAL, even if any of the above requirements are waived  
Double touché for you  

PROVE IT.

[mjlmpicons]

Again..... DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK IT MATTERS, OR THAT PROVING THAT THIS MARRIAGE WAS LEGAL OR NOT will change the FACTS..... come on... Even if each of you hold tight to your belief that it was or was not legal, what does that prove ?? NOTHING !!!!!
-- THEIR LOVE WILL LIVE FOREVER .... proving this document was or not legal CHANGES NOTHING...
-- THEIR RELATIONSHIP & LOVE FOR EACH OTHER WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME as it has all these years.
-- I say this with love in my heart for each of you, part of investigating is looking at ALL the facts, don't get lost going down a road that leads nowhere.  There are some very good investigators here, please use your intellect and gift to get to the bottom of what really matters.
-------------- ASK YOURSELVES, WHY ARE WE HERE ------- FOCUS ----- IT IS ABOUT MJ & THAT day in June, right???
---  till next time ....
Have a safe and Happy Halloween ... ..  8-)

[MsTrinity333]

Again..... DO ANY OF YOU REALLY THINK IT MATTERS, OR THAT PROVING THAT THIS MARRIAGE WAS LEGAL OR NOT will change the FACTS..... come on... Even if each of you hold tight to your belief that it was or was not legal, what does that prove ?? NOTHING !!!!!
-- THEIR LOVE WILL LIVE FOREVER .... proving this document was or not legal CHANGES NOTHING...
-- THEIR RELATIONSHIP & LOVE FOR EACH OTHER WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME as it has all these years.
-- I say this with love in my heart for each of you, part of investigating is looking at ALL the facts, don't get lost going down a road that leads nowhere.  There are some very good investigators here, please use your intellect and gift to get to the bottom of what really matters.
-------------- ASK YOURSELVES, WHY ARE WE HERE ------- FOCUS ----- IT IS ABOUT MJ & THAT day in June, right???
---  till next time ....
Have a safe and Happy Halloween ... ..  8-)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN to you too.  
ps I love your Avitar; I have the same one on my YT channel.

[MissG]

This has nothing to do with love. Has to do with legal docs being auctioned as "real" or "valid" when they are not.

Legal Options for Marriage in the Dominican Republic

The following information is only to serve as guidance to U.S. citizens who are contemplating marriage in the Dominican Republic. Nor the staff of the diplomatic mission or consular officers have legal authority to perform marriages. The marriage can not be held in the United States Embassy or Consulate of the United States in the Dominican Republic.


MARRIAGE PROCEDURES IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
Steps to marry in the Dominican Republic

I. Register the marriage at the Civil Registry Office.

We require a registration fee of approximately $ 125 and no waiting time.
Must submit the following documents:

    • Passports
    • Original copies of birth certificates
    • Proof of being single, authenticated by the Dominican Consulate where they were issued
    • If necessary, the record (s) of divorce, authenticated by the Dominican Consulate where they were issued


The couple must inform at least one month in advance, with a minimum of 15 days notice to reserve the judge. It is recommended that all documents be submitted at least six months in advance. To expedite the processing of documents, you must send photocopies of documents to the Civil Registry Office. The originals will be verified upon arrival.

Did they have the time to legally do the procedure??

General requirements for marriage

To get married in the Dominican Republic, the parties must have served a statutory minimum age (16 for men, 15 for women), legally unmarried, and must give their consent for marriage. Failure to comply with one of these requirements may result in the invalidation of marriage by the Dominican authorities.

In addition, foreigners wishing to marry in the Dominican Republic must submit the following documents:

    *

      Original passport and copy of the biographical information page of the passport;
    *

      Copies of the latest entry stamps
    *

      Dominican proof of residence (if not a resident of the Dominican Republic must pay an additional fee and must present your tourist card)
    *

      Affidavit before a notary public, stating their single status and eligibility to marry, the affidavit then needs to be legalized in the offices of the Attorney General's Office. If the affidavit is made before a notary in the U.S.. UU., This then needs to be legalized at the nearest Dominican Consulate in the U.S.. UU. (In the past the U.S. Embassy. UU. Allowed U.S. citizens to make this affidavit of eligibility to marry (single status letter) before a consular officer. The Embassy has discontinued this practice several years ago because local registry officials interpreted this document as a statement that the embassy had verified the contents of the declaration of eligibility, when the consular officer was acting only as a witness that the individual in question had made such a declaration. The American citizens need to fill this requirement must appear before a Notary Public Dominicano - as explained above.
    *

      Copy of birth certificate and legal translation of the certificate;
    *

      If divorced, copy of certificate of divorce and legal translation of the certificate;
    *

      2 witnesses (not relatives).

In addition, the Dominican law requires that a publication is made of marriage prior to the conclusion of the ceremony.

I could go on and on.

Legal facts:
-Names are taken from birth certificates and passports.
-Time line to fix the documents, and there is no exception. One can´t get married if they are married before.That´s illegal, it´s bigamy.
-The witness can´t be a family relative.

One can´t go against the law and "authorities" can´t do it either. This circumstance is not one of an importance to "change the law".

From the beginning to the end that certificate is not valid, starting fom the wrong spellings and ending with the time line required for legal documents to be setted.

And now I leave this subject for real.