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very interesting that there is a focus on reporting this....

Contradictions and all stuff that doesn't add up / MJ died in the 80s
« on: June 27, 2013, 05:04:35 AM »
apparently.... interesting video

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not sure how credible he is, though thuis guy claims to print things other press wont touch.

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POP WARBLER Michael Jackson  kept an astonishing “death-hoax diary” explaining  how he would fake his death of a heart attack and telling when he would come out of hiding, a family friend who claims to have found the journal “among Michael’s personal effects” tells exclusively.

ALIVE - OR NOT? You be the judge.
“There’s too much pressure, pressure, pressure … pressure everywhere I turn …” a diary entry dated Nov. 17, 2008  is alleged to say in part.

“I don’t know who I am, not anmore (sp). Maybe I’m just a father to my children. Maybe I’m washed up.

“The drugs are (illegible) a toll … (illegible) … I’m not addict. But I can’t stop …

“If Elvis … (illegible) … so can I.

“I’ll have a ‘heart attack’ from drugs like he did (yeah, right!)

“I’ll come back, but only when I’m ready. Bigger than Elvis in ’69.

“Maybe 2009 at Christmas. Or maybe the New Year is better.

“A back-from-dead tour,  a real Thriller. But I have to rest. I’m tired. I’m not (thinking) clearly.

“It’s the drugs.

“A lot of fans still love me.  (Some) people hate me.  Thing (sp) will be different (after this) …”

Jackson insiders declined to comment – officially – on the report. But as one privately put it, “We love Michael no matter what.”

The friend who leaked portions of the diary also was tight lipped, saying only, “There are over 60 pages (of it) that I will release to the family through my lawyer and they can do what they want with it. It doesn’t belong to me. It belongs to Michael and his loved ones.”

Other sources confirm that Jackson, 50, had spoken of  a death hoax “on several occasions” in 2008 and also in 2009, although the reported discovery of the diary that outlines his plans seemed to come as a surprise to everyone contacted by

A paint-by-numbers account of a death hoax, in the superstar’s own handwriting, could lead to serious legal problems, say legal observers, especially if the journal is perceived by insurance companies and the authorities to be a blueprint for fraud.

“I hope to God the diary is legit,” said a Jackson confidante who requested anonymity. “If  Michael really is alive, if he orchestrated all this, if he faked his own death, then nobody will be happier than me. As for fraud – nope, no way.

“Michael wouldn’t commit fraud. He’s not trying to collect insurance. He’s protecting himself. He’s doing this for his children. I’ll guarantee it.”

News of Jackson’s “death” on June 25 stunned the world. In fact, within hours of the ann0uncement by authorities, fans had already begun to speculate that he was still alive  and had gone into hiding. Subsequent reports suggested that he was, indeed, perpetrating a hoax to escape the pressures of life in the public eye.

Scooping the world, reported Jackson had been spirited to Asheville, North Carolina and then to Eastern Europe, where it is thought that he might be holed up in Hungary, or even in Russia, where hundreds of people claim to have spotted him in Moscow.

Latoya Jackson / La Toya's book "Starting over"
« on: April 26, 2013, 03:23:17 AM »

Well, I have just finished reading La Toya's book, and I'd firstly like to say- good for he, getting out of such a terrible situation with he husband, she must be a very strong person.

With regards to the part of MJ... Im torn..... I dont feel that someone could write such a detailed account like that, about how she reacted, saw his body, what his kids said, how she spent hours sitting with him in FL after the death and it be lies. SURELY one cannot write such emotive things about the family and it be lies? I really don't know how I feel about the whole hoax thing anymore. She seems adamant that he was murdered - she has said this on multiple occassions; could he reall be dead and it WAS murder?

What is everyone else's take on the book and he descriptions? I mean generally- not focussing on the parts where she was like "i was worried his body wasnt in the casket"- because when taken in context it's just a statement - I'm not clinging to anything she said in particularly and looking for "clues"- sometimes I feel people just ty and look too had and make things seem bigge than they actually are on here lol - sorry!

What are your overall feelings about he credibility and the descriptions. SURELY no one would lie about all that in a book...

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Im not too sure if this has been mentioned before, but when I heard the taped interview in the last few minutes of this I was like  :icon_eek: ooooh

sorry if its old news but.... it just seemed to be a massive hint

Much L.O.V.E

Other Theories / body double
« on: April 18, 2013, 06:37:57 AM »
I know I might be waaay off with this.. but has anyone here considered that there might have been a body double with regards to the death? A die hard imitator that had changed his name to Michael Joseph Jackson, who would be willing to die in his place?

I know it sounds ridiculous, and Im pretty sure no -one would ever condone it, but I must have been subconciously thinking about it as I had a dream that I was stood in the house watching the events unfolding....

He was in there briefing a stunt double as to what would happen, the other man was saying that he as ready to die and it was an honour to be able to go this way, dying as the man he had so wanted to be all his life, (hence the surgeries and name change). the only differance was his middle name was Joseph, not JOE ( as well all know that's MJs real name not the one they used on all the death shizz in court!) So technically all the forms were correct, MJJ WAS dead but not michael JOE, it was Michael Joseph.

The real michael then left the building and went to the airport to escape- hence the delays at the airport that many people have reported, the decoy then begged for drugs- conrad gave him some propofol to sleep, then as he was off in the loo, the decoy grabbed the Syringe and OD'ed.

I woke up and thought...oh..... that'd work haha

hope it makes an interesting read!


Introduce yourself / Hallo everyone!
« on: April 17, 2013, 08:08:33 AM »
Hallo everyone

Im Charlotte from the UK and I am  in my early 20's and am a veterinary surgeon!

MJ was my favorite artist, and I was very much looking forwards to seeing him with my close friend (also called Charlotte) at the 02 arena (we were so fortunate to get tickets!). When I got the news MJ had died I was actually awoken from a dream at 2 am by Charlotte shouting down the phone "I have hardly have any credit left on my phone so Im only going to say this once and hang up MICHAEL JACKSON IS DEAD TURN ON YOUR FLIPPING RADIO!"  :icon_pale:

I couldn't really fathom the strength to do much whilst listening to the outpouring of sadness on the radio, the back to back songs.... which ordinarily I would have been thrilled to hear on National, I sort of sat there in bed.. a little like a startled meerkat on watch for eagles in the savannah, just..... well mulling it over! How very sad that he left behind his 3 lovely children, and how sad such a wonderful personality/ kind, caring man had left this mortal coil. The trance like state lasted for a very long time - I began to hear whispers that perhaps he wasn't dead.... it interested my inquiring mind, so I decided to listen.   :icon_albino:

Im not sure exactly what I believe, so I have joined you all on here to widen my thinking and see what others think as a matter of interest.

so hello to you all, I very much look forwards to reading your thoughts and contributing my own.


Charlotte  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

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