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« on: July 25, 2012, 02:08:42 PM »
I am feeling uneasy about all of this. I really hope that she and the kids are ok. They could be going up against the same people that wanted to hurt Michael. Those same people could have found out that Michael is really alive and are holding Katherine against her will to get information from her on his whereabouts. This could also be the reasoning behind the family going against the executors and trying to get the kids out of the house. This family could be in true danger. This could be the reason why Tito's son is getting temporary custody of these children. Those children need to stay with their family and those who knows what is going on. As far as the argument that happened outside their home. Janet could have been trying to get the kids out of the house so they could no longer be in danger. Janet would never go along with the other brothers if it was just about the money. There is something bad going on over there and I for one am worried.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 09:02:09 PM »
This is my take on the ambulance picture. I think Ben is in on the hoax. He would have to be to know to photoshop MJ in the ambulance. I don't know if anyone has ever asked this before, but when was Farrah Faucett taken to the hospital? She is a celebrity and lived in the same area as MJ did. Ben could have been staking out her residence and caught them on camera with her in the ambulance leaving her home. He then could have had a conversation with MJ about getting the picture of her and MJ could have asked him to play around with the picture and put him in pic instead of Farrah. Which could have explained the difference of reflections on the ambulance picture and the surroundings at Carolwood.
Moving on to level 7b. I still believe that MJ was helping to take care of one of his impersonaters that had fallen ill and needed round the clock care from some kind of doctor. Which could explain why he insisted on Murray being his personal physician. Why would he want a cardiologist, instead of a regular physican to oversee his health? IMO, he needed Murray because he was friends with him and he knew Murray was in financial strain. He also knew that no other doctor would be willing to put their medical license and possible freedom on the line for MJ. Which is why MJ wanted to pay Murray so much money. I do believe that someone did die that day, but it wasnt MJ. It was his impersonator. The reason why I think that is because of what the EMT's said about the person they saw in the bedroom. A sick, frailed, old man, balding. He looked like a cancer patient. MJ was not sick, not frailed, not old looking and certainly not balding. MJ is skinny, but not so skinny that he looks like a cancer patient. Now lets go back to when this all went down. Murray comes down stairs and tells the cook to get Prince and get Paris! The kids new that something was happening but not to their daddy. If it was MJ dying any normal human being would call 911, but they had to wait because MJ needed to get out of the house quickly which is why they waited so long to call 911. This is when the ambulance comes in. Ben is called there to get the pic, but Ben already had a pic of MJ that he had photoshopped from Farrah. Ben is seen snapping the pic but used the photoshop pic instead because it had to be believeable.
So, to summerize. The ambulance pic was taken at an earlier date from Farrah and photoshopped with MJ. There was a person in the ambulance on 6/25, but it was not MJ, it was someone him and Murray was helping to take care of. Murray's behavior in court after reading the verdict just confirms that Michael is alive!
Sorry so long.
Wow,dragon,this theory is exactly what i was thinking.The sick impersonator would explain why all those drugs were in the house.The oxygen chamber,and why no one was in a hurry to call 911.This patient was expected to die anyway,if he was terminally ill with cancer.This could also explain why no one was allowed in Michael's room.I never considered the idea about Farrah,but it makes a lot of sense.You r definitely right about Murrays behavior after the verdict was read,he did not seem to be concerned at all. I also believe that the corner was in on it.
Let's not forget that when the emt came they said they saw a frail old man.. Michael didn't look frail neither old. So who was it??
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« on: November 11, 2011, 05:51:26 PM »
If he even made $1 he is breaking the restrictions that the judge has said. He said that no one is to accept any money from this trial for 90 days. They could do all kinds of interviews and tv specials, but could not make a cent from it for 90 days. So, if he accepted the dollar then he is also in contempt.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 05:47:38 PM »
I never have said this before, but I am really happy that LaToya is on Michaels side with this. It seems like she is the one always in the media talking about what happened to him and who was out to get him. Not many of the Jackson's are doing that. Not sure if she is doing it for her own benefit (meaning money) or if she is doing it to really defend and protect her brother. But, I am thankful that someone is really speaking out.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 04:33:08 PM »
Jennie, Thank you so much for your post. It is close to what I was saying before but I had put in way too many details that were not needed. I have been pulling my hair out trying to find the correct wording with what I was trying to say. But, I so agree with you on many things.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 04:13:07 PM »
I wonder when 50 cents lyrics were written, since it says 2010 its a thriller. I think if it was written recently then it could be what he was feeling about everything that was going on around him and wanting to escape. All of Michael's music had a message to it, so anything is possible.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 01:39:35 PM »
IMO, there are times when we do need to go backwards. The only way that I could see Michael hoaxing his death with everyone involved and everyone knowing about the hoax, is if the government is involved with helping. Without someones help within the government, there would be major slip-ups. Not everyone would be able to keep quiet. They would talk at some point and to someone. And this would be all for nothing. The fewer people in the "know" the better it is to keep this quiet. I do believe this hoaxing was started a few years ago. But as far as the numerology comes into play with this. It is hard for me to believe just as much as it is hard for some of us to believe in the double theory. If we all believe in the number theory, then those people on staff at the hospital would have to be in on it. I don't think Michael has enough money to keep everyone quiet and I don't think that all those people would put there career in jeopardy for a celebrity. Hence, there has to be a body. It can only be one of two people. Michael or an impersonator. I don't believe that Michael died on that day. I mean no disrespect to anyone's opinion or beliefs. However, with this we need to think that there are very few involved. If there was no body, these are the list of people that would have to lie and put their own livelyhood in jeopardy. This is just day one: Murray, the cook, the nanny, all the bodyguards, the children, the whole family, the EMT's, the firemen, Ben, Frank D, Thome, Kenny, all of the doctors, nurses, and staff at hospital, the people that were at the hospital that saw them bringing him in, the people pushing MJ out of the hospital onto the helicopter, the pilot, the coroner van driver, the passenger in the van, everyone on staff at the coroners office. This is just the first day.
I am not saying that the person I believe died that day had cancer. I was just repeating what one of the Emt's said that person looked like. I also don't believe that MJ would ask someone to die in his place so that he could hoax his death. This is why I think the person that died, was very ill. Hence, needing the physician, the oxygen and the drugs. I think that the date is really just a coincidence.
As I have said before, this is all my opinion and I mean no disrespect towards anyone's thought, feelings or beliefs. We are doing this all for the love we have for Michael.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 10:49:52 AM »
I looked up when Farrah was taken to the hospital the last time and it said that she was taken to UCLA 2 weeks before she passed. It does not say how she arrived there. Ambulance or someone driving her. This could still be inline with when the ambulance picture was taken.
If we keep it as simple as possible, with a small amount of people in the know. The employees at UCLA doesn't need to be in on the hoax. All they know is that they are trying to save Michael Jackson. The world knew how Michael changed his looks over the years and people don't look the same as they do with make-up on. Also, if you have been persummed dead for at least an hour, the color of your skin will change as well. This goes back to the double person. He may have had several plastic surgeries to look like Michael. People would think that they were working on MJ because he still looked like him in some sense. They just believed what they were told. Unless, they had Michael's DNA on file and matched it to that person's DNA, they wouldn't know the difference.
These are the people I think are in on the hoax from the beginning: Murray, the family, coroner, Ben, Frank D., and a couple of the bodyguards.
As far as the trial itself, I am still trying to figure this out.
I have always felt strongly about the double person from the very get go. I cannot explain it.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 10:16:38 AM »
If we go to the documentary that Murray put out. He was saying the MJ peed the bed all the time and that his bed smelled. If Michael had a problem with peeing the bed, don't you think that the kids that would sleep in his bed with him would mention that. Especially the one's who alleged the abuse. That would definately come out in court. Which it didn't. Also, courtesy of another poster who put out an explanation on condom cathedars. They are not normally used on those who are not circumcised, they do not fit properly. Also, if I remember correctly, the autopsy said something about prostate issues. Which could fit with the person who did die on that day. (not Michael) He could of had prostate cancer. This person could have been suffering with some kind of illness and this could have been an assisted suicide, hence the amounts of drugs in the system.
I don't know. I could be grasping at straws right now. I am just trying to debunk all the theories that have been put out there. Now that the trial is over.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 09:43:50 AM »
Excuse me Dragon but if an impersonator was sick of cancer or another terminal illness and died on June 25th in MJ's house, we would have a corpse and it would have been no need for the coroner to be in the hoax, so the autopsy report would have stated that the cause of death was cancer or another terminal illness.
The coroner could be in on the hoax as well. I just find it so hard to believe that a person could have that many drugs at such a high level in their system and not be sick. The blood was sent off to toxicology to find out what kind of drugs was in the system, not to find out if there is cancer cells in the blood. The coroner is the one who made the determination as to what that person died of, not the toxicologist. They only reported the drugs in the system, as well as the levels.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 09:27:31 AM »
This is my take on the ambulance picture. I think Ben is in on the hoax. He would have to be to know to photoshop MJ in the ambulance. I don't know if anyone has ever asked this before, but when was Farrah Faucett taken to the hospital? She is a celebrity and lived in the same area as MJ did. Ben could have been staking out her residence and caught them on camera with her in the ambulance leaving her home. He then could have had a conversation with MJ about getting the picture of her and MJ could have asked him to play around with the picture and put him in pic instead of Farrah. Which could have explained the difference of reflections on the ambulance picture and the surroundings at Carolwood.
Moving on to level 7b. I still believe that MJ was helping to take care of one of his impersonaters that had fallen ill and needed round the clock care from some kind of doctor. Which could explain why he insisted on Murray being his personal physician. Why would he want a cardiologist, instead of a regular physican to oversee his health? IMO, he needed Murray because he was friends with him and he knew Murray was in financial strain. He also knew that no other doctor would be willing to put their medical license and possible freedom on the line for MJ. Which is why MJ wanted to pay Murray so much money. I do believe that someone did die that day, but it wasnt MJ. It was his impersonator. The reason why I think that is because of what the EMT's said about the person they saw in the bedroom. A sick, frailed, old man, balding. He looked like a cancer patient. MJ was not sick, not frailed, not old looking and certainly not balding. MJ is skinny, but not so skinny that he looks like a cancer patient. Now lets go back to when this all went down. Murray comes down stairs and tells the cook to get Prince and get Paris! The kids new that something was happening but not to their daddy. If it was MJ dying any normal human being would call 911, but they had to wait because MJ needed to get out of the house quickly which is why they waited so long to call 911. This is when the ambulance comes in. Ben is called there to get the pic, but Ben already had a pic of MJ that he had photoshopped from Farrah. Ben is seen snapping the pic but used the photoshop pic instead because it had to be believeable.
So, to summerize. The ambulance pic was taken at an earlier date from Farrah and photoshopped with MJ. There was a person in the ambulance on 6/25, but it was not MJ, it was someone him and Murray was helping to take care of. Murray's behavior in court after reading the verdict just confirms that Michael is alive!
Sorry so long.
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« on: November 11, 2011, 08:46:59 AM »
Welcome to this wonderful family Blackorwhite! You will truly feel the love that surrounds us all here.
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« on: November 07, 2011, 07:36:14 PM »
I have to admit that my heart is a bit heavy today. I was hoping for a not guilty verdict so that it would reconfirm that Michael is alive. I am not sure what to think now. I know that Conrad was guilty just for doing what he did to Michael. Michael could of either paid him off or was really in medical trouble and he escaped from Murray and everyone else at the hospital. I just feel like we all took 3 steps forward but we are now 4 steps back.
I know that this wasn't all for nothing. Yes, I have lost a lot of sleep and focused so much on this over the past two years. But, I have gained so much more. I have gained a new family in all of you. I have learned so much more about Michael the person. I have learned about the crazies inside and outside the government. Heck, I never would have known about the tunnels under the airport in Colorado. I never would of known about the illuminati. I could go on and on. But, I have become a more informed person because of you all and ultimately because of Michael. So thank you Michael and thank you hoax family!
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« on: November 05, 2011, 06:35:55 PM »
Souza I sent you a message through your inbox. You can ignore that! After much patients I was able to get to this topic and found all the good advice that you had left for us. It is still very slow in loading, but IE seems to works very well on all of the other sites we frequent. Since this hoax requires patients, then I will be patient with the pages loading. I do love the layout! Great job!
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« on: October 15, 2011, 03:24:20 PM »
I wonder if the kids got to come back since they were there as well. I think these people have plenty of money to find a way back home. They are in no means stranded.
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