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« on: November 07, 2014, 08:02:14 AM »
I just got a chuckle (and a thrill!) over the cops (and professional robbers) trying to figure out if their worst nightmare was coming true. Masks and disguises are illegal in certain circumstances in my city and state, as are gatherings of crowds without registering the "party" with the city first, and I imagined that if all those authorities---especially crooked ones who didn't even see the movie, weren't notified in advance, they would be :icon_eek: FREAKING OUT, wondering what it all means, and :over-react-smiley: WHY all those masks! :errrr: :errrr: :thjajaja121: So funny. What it has to do with anything else, other than what was stated, I can't tell. It SEEMS to mean more, just because we have been conditioned to go: :icon_e_surprised: , and expect meaningful puzzle connections of hoax forum subjects, having discussed the movie, etc., here. There were no fireworks, yet, so it may be nothing more (hoax related, I mean) than a "heads up" our way to hang around a bit more FOR :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: the "fireworks". :icon_e_biggrin: Or, not. :icon_geek: The Mask March was towards the end of the movie right? I think it would be just like MJ to signal those still watching, that the "end is near". Or, maybe there is some other actual Hoax mystery to be investigated, as to why those three places held such a march??  :icon_albino:
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« on: November 05, 2014, 10:34:12 PM »
Hey, while I was trying to verify that Tom Sneddon is in fact deceased, :icon_e_surprised: :icon_e_surprised: THIS appeared on my screen. Life imitating art, Hoax-incidence, or... Déjà vu?  You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: November 05, 2014, 06:40:13 PM »
I don't know if we are supposed to notice these things or what. All these things cant be a coincidence. I was sitting here watching Austin and Ally on Disney with the kids. Austin was asking for his moonwalkers lol. That's what he calls his shoes. Then he performed a song called "Can you feel it". oh yeah, then he sang a song called Upside Down. I thought about Diana Ross. Then his last performance was a song called "Just an Illusion". I was like wth? Then in the song, he sings something about the white glove. Here are the lyrics:
I'll be your entertainer
I'm putting on a show
I'm gonna levitate ya
Leave you wa-wa-wanting more
I see you fascinated
I've got you hypnotized
White gloves with your dream up
A fantasy before your eyes
Step right up on the stage
Free yourself from the cage (from the cage)
Pick a card and guess it girl
Here's a lesson girl
It's just an illusion
1, 2, 3, I disappear
Coming right back
So stay right here
Ain't no second guessing girl
I'm impressing girl
But I'm just an illusion
Oh, Uh, Listen
I ain't no fake Houdini
I put a spell on you
I'm something like a genie
Girl I make your wish come true
And now our time is running
With every grain of sand
So here's the grand finale
Watch me do my sleight of hand
Step right up on the stage
Free yourself from the cage (from the cage)
Pick a card and guess it girl
Here's a lesson girl
It's just an illusion
1, 2, 3, I disappear
Coming right back
So stay right here (Oh, yeah)
Ain't no second guessing girl
I'm impressing girl
But I'm just an illusion
Somewhere in a dream
We'll meet again my baby
And I promise that I won't disappear
I'll be right here
And I won't be, won't be, won't be
Just an illusion
Yeah baby
Step right up on the stage
Free yourself from the cage (from the cage)
Pick a card and guess it girl
Here's a lesson girl
It's just an illusion
1, 2, 3 I disappear
Comin' right back
So stay right here
Ain't no second guessing girl
I'm impressing girl
But I'm just an illusion
Step right up
On the stage
Free yourself from the cage (from the cage)
Pick a card and guess it girl
Here's a lesson girl
It's just an illusion
1, 2, 3 I disappear
Comin' right back
So stay right here
Ain't no second guessing girl
I'm impressing girl
But I'm just an illusion
Then my daughter reminded me that the characters name is Austin Moon. MJ oldest nephew is Austin. Moon needs no explanation when it comes to MJ lol. Heres the episode: You are not allowed to view links.
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You can look up this characters performance of each song. Heres the link to the Illusion performance You are not allowed to view links.
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I thought this whole show has MJ written all over it from day 1. They claim the co-creator of the show is a man named Michael Jacobs. Who knows :icon_razz:
Thank you for posting all of the words and the links!  I read once that MJ as a young man practically LIVED at "The Happiest Place ON Earth"... Every time I have turned the Disney channel on, I have felt a very distinct Michaelish vibe about the place. MJ is such an icon that it is not unusual to hear "Michaelish" things in many places, just as an homage to "The Greatest". But I don't think this is always that!! You guys ARE seeing things---I see them , TOO! Maybe ...he is :michael_jackson-1135: haunting the Channel... :icon_lol: from that place with no name, or, hey! Didn't someone post something about a Biblical character, "Jacob" in one of the religious threads? Not the sister site. Someone posted in this forum a couple or 3 years ago, about Michael/Jacob once. Remember that, anyone? May be unrelated. Or, may be not such a coincidence...
ANY WAY ( :icon_e_surprised: omg!), I never believed HE'd retire, so we know he's NOT twiddling his thumbs behind his tombstone. We've been expecting him to show up SOMEwhere, right? It's not a stretch to believe Mikey is behind the mask of pseudonyms,TOO, while in the :icon_albino: "After(after-faked-death)life". Maybe the fake names are to throw the masses off his trail with good TV, while the Michaelisms elbow-jab his followers :bearhug: !?? Maybe his new career has something to do with creating tons of TV shows, like Aaron Spelling used to do. There are some very ticklish things on the Disney channel which have made me think of MJ's brand of wit, you know?, like a "doubletake/ nah" :icon_e_wink:, but it's getting to be too many to be coincidence. I think it will be eerier to find out MJ has had nothing to do with these shows. :icon_razz: :icon_razz:
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« on: November 05, 2014, 04:57:06 PM »
Hmmmmmm....This really IS it. 
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« on: October 07, 2014, 03:17:39 PM »
One thing to sift some truth out of all the SS numbers would be to see if they are of people who are deceased. It looks like one of his brothers is. Maybe CM is more of a criminal than anyone knew--except the FBI and MJ. :icon_e_wink: People who are in hiding for some reason often steal identity numbers from deceased people. Obtaining a dead sibling's soc. number would be a piece of cake. Also, the SID number is a System ID, assigned when he was sent to prison. It changes state to state, that is, if he has been in prison in any other state, this number would be different than the one you posted here. Some inmates have multiple SID numbers. Perhaps MJ is helping a convict to rebuild his life and bank account by utilizing his talents as a criminal, er... I mean, :icon_albino: :smiley_abuv: chameleon (a lizard which changes color to communicate strategically with other lizards! :icon_e_surprised: :thjajaja121: ) to drive this Hoax down certain blind alleys! He could be a cop as well. I posted on that somewhere here, once. He LOOKs like Law Enforcement. Look at him! Cops can pretty much fake anything and getting 100 fake SS#s would not be a problem. They could even have lifted them from the personal prison files of "Lifers", who, :animal0017: "won't be needing these, anymore, heh heh...". That's a serious crime, too, but so is eugenics, perjury and tampering with evidence, know what I mean, Vern? :icon_neutral: Perhaps MJ is righting some other secret wrong, here, as well, which requires someone able to handle a deep cover assignment.... :icon_cool:
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« on: October 07, 2014, 02:04:17 PM »
Here two articles that might help:
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Monetizing the Celebrity Meltdown
... Other investors have sought ways to take positions in celebrities themselves. Thirteen years ago, David Bowie famously raised $55 million by issuing so-called Bowie Bonds, paying 7.9 percent interest through album royalties and introducing the concept of securitized intellectual property. Now the model is proliferating. In 2007, Mark Cuban co-founded Content Partners to do for celebrities what structured-settlement firms do for winners of lotteries and lawsuits: pay an up-front lump sum in return for the right to future revenue. (Cuban won’t name names but claims the venture has been “highly profitable.”) Art Capital Group, a high-end pawnshop, lends money to brand-name artists who pledge their paintings and photographs as collateral.
Over the past two years, Barrack has been lining up deals that target celebrities and entertainment properties whose value he believes to be artificially depressed. In some cases, that’s because they haven’t yet figured out a way to monetize their assets...
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Monetizing the Celebrity Meltdown ShareThis .
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Remember when doing a "commercial" was a kiss of death (or at least an eventual :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_redface: :Crash: embarrassment for artists who were serious about their craft? Savvy people knew then that there was big money to be made in endorsements, but maybe not long term enough to make the humbling experience more lucrative for the actual personality's putting up their reputation, and maybe not enough for anyone but the sponsors. And for a long time it was forbidden for some Americans with accents to even endorse anything on American TV, let alone non-citizens with accents, so that excluded a lot of people from a piece of that pie. So wrong, in America, yet---where every single person has some kind of accent! :elvis-1405:
Well, there's no thing more profitable than a sure thing, and the most sure thing is change. Especially when it is done strategically TO change the way things work. One can bank on it. Little by little some silly walls have been chipped down, and since the eighties (hmmmm) all kinds of celebrities are doing all kinds of commercials. The first time I was told what airtime costs for a few seconds on a televised event such as football, I was stunned at just how profitable this could be, if everyone involved got a piece of the action, not just an honorarium for their face or name and a pat on the back as they parted ways. And I am not saying that MJ is directly responsible for any of this, but he certainly has had a reputation for helping artists get control of their own work and still profit from it in their retirement, instead of dying early and penniless, after blessing the world with their silken voices and gifts of song, etc. He is on record a few times saying or doing something about this, as he has mentored upcoming young artists, and "giving back" behind the scenes, to some old timers who got rooked out of their property.
I think MJ very well may be on the cutting edge of investing in "celebrity" properties (and I don't mean real estate !), and he of all people on earth should know exactly what someone with Hollywood type business savvy and imagination could DO with this kind of investment. I think he intended all along to make ginormous bucks from his catalog of songs, and NOT by simply loaning them to others! :bowdown: I think this began stewing in his imagination since the very first commercial ad he did for that scooter in Japan, remember, the one with that pretty girl trying to steal the scene and then driving away with him? :icon_e_surprised: I always wondered why he did those Pepsi commercials, himself,too---even though he was hot and the cool storylines were a hoot---didn't he know that commercial endorsements only make people take you less seriously? And, I mean, it's not retirement income; highly shortlived as far as film goes... NOW, since hindsight IS 20/20 (actually crystal clear and perfectly in focus), I'm thinking those commercials were TESTing the waters, in more directions than one, to see how much mileage (and money :woohoo2: :icon_e_ugeek: :thjajaja121: ) he himself could actually squeeze out of them, if HE controlled the property. :ghsdf: I mean, instead of getting a check for showing up with his little buns and a smile and appear to jump off a building, WHAT IF he stars in it, lends Likeness and Name AND music and lyrics, AND has some kind of personal stake or ownership in it forever?!!!!! :omg: :omg: :omg: :icon_exclaim: I can see it now, Pepsi agreeing to everything, thinking, "Ha ha this "songbird" thinks this is going to be worth something long after we run it the agreed 1000 times, heh heh heh, OK kiddo. Sure, we'll agree to give you a piece of it. SUCKER :TongueOutSmiley:" (---or was it ALL of it, after the ad is retired that year? :omg:). Idk all about how these things work, really, but it sounds like Michael Jackson's subtle genius, doesn't it?!!!! :icon_e_smile: If it never did go like that, HE would be the one to MAKE it go like that!!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile That shrinking violet is a secret Python in the boardroom---I KNOW it! 
THINK about all the mileage (and cash) he has gotten out of his dealings with Pepsi! WHO KNEW the world would be talking about this and showing these "short films" 30 years later? ( :icon_cool: HE did!) :TongueOutSmiley: :TongueOutSmiley: :th_bravo:
Which...brings me to my point. Has anyone not seen the commercial with "Attractive Rob Lowe and NOT so attractive Rob Lowe", comparing satellite TV to cable? TELL me this doesn't have that wiley fox Michael Jackson ALL over it. The theme to St Elmoe's Fire is even playing, ever so slyly, at the end of this commercial! IT IS A CLUE. See?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNNkvQ9vkEM [/youtube]
All I can say now is that this gives NEW meaning to the terms, "Make that change" ($$ :michael_jackson-1135: ) & KEEP WATCHIN' :icon_e_surprised: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile :thjajaja121:
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« on: September 10, 2014, 02:12:57 PM »
Drs take pictures of unsuspecting patients ALL THE TIME. Just because they leave the room while you change into that paper "Seymour B**B" gown...don't think they are not watching full frontal "film at 11", in their own private collection. People terrified of being sued into financial ruin before they've paid off their student loans, video tape :icon_eek: EVERYTHING, y'all...It's cheaper than paying another professional to sit in there with you while being manually "examined". Be glad it is just head shots here in these pictures. :Crash: :Crash: Remember about ten years ago, this :icon_twisted: :icon_evil: is how the authorities busted that pervy dentist---by his stash of pictures of him "working on" sleeping patients!  
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« on: September 10, 2014, 01:10:55 PM »
This video is classic hoax video, but idk if it is official MJ under another name or just an expert at making frustrating video! First, it was frustrating to read the text, so I didn't, the first time through. Then I wanted to see what had disturbed a couple of you guys, and I thought maybe that was it...
Then, I noticed lots of time idling on peoples' backs turned to us, but NOT like real amateur "home movies", only like it is supposed to be taken as such. Then, when I tried to discover WHAT was being filmed specifically (just general family/crowd event video or certain family members, or WHAT?)I noticed myself being thwarted :Pulling_hair: by the photographer, via tilted angling, shaking the camera, and people jumping in front of what WAS being filmed. When I did realize what was being filmed, just as the filmer zoomed in, the camera moved off! :screaming-7365: So...watching again. There was a lot of time spent on the tall girl who managed to get every one's signatures, but, it appeared to be KEEPING us from something further away, being filmed. WHAT is being filmed? The :icon_e_surprised: man in black, standing on the driveway(to the right of the home) alongside a woman in white who is holding something blue, @311, 415, 451, 506-530-614 to 641 when he goes in the house. I think the audience was meant to think it is film of MJ's Bday celebration at his childhood home, but it really is a contrived hoax video along the lines of "Where's Waldo" :thjajaja121:. Yeah, we spotted him. But,
I don't think it is MJ at all---and neither does ANYONE else who is there :LolLolLolLol:, because he is standing ALL alone way too long on a mostly empty driveway space, before going into the house :icon_exclaim: You know, MJ spent alot of time reinforcing that his characteristic silhouette would be instantly recognizable, I think , just for this purpose---to fool everyone!! So, I think everyone at the "show" had already met the "Poser" and were directed to ignore him, and distract us (the viewers) with all kinds of chitchat :icon_albino: party activity. Verrry :bowdown: clever, but, NOT Waldo. :icon_albino: And where's the food? I didn't see one chicken wing or a plate of cake. :Crash: However... :suspect:
The entire thing begs a question. For all my birthdays, I NEVER once went back to my first childhood home (when no one I know still lives there, even! :icon_eek:) to celebrate. Now, I'm not famous, but, I never heard of anyone else doing that either; maybe putting up a tombstone/memorial in a famous person's home town cemetery, sorta nicely packaging the "coming full circle", like Rosa Parks...but, I just wonder WHY, when MJ is not DEAD. :icon_e_confused: Logistically, it would be way easier to stage something smaller there than, say, Neverland, or even Hayvenhurst.
But, WHY. :computer-losy-smiley: :over-react-smiley:
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« on: September 08, 2014, 11:51:55 PM »
@ Its her, omg thank you for making me fall out of my seat laughing. :th_bravo:
Yes, I too noticed that sometimes mama Katie don't seem like mama Katie. So that leads me to wonder why? Come to think of it, MJ always always had his mothers mouth and wide smile. So wouldn't be hard to pull off at all. Who would think to pay attention to "her" right? Nobody would ever suspect it.
Now im off to find Simpattys posts on that infamous blue outfit. wonder what it means. just when you think this whole thing may be dying down, no pun intended, more weirdness comes about. hey, theres never anything good on tv lately. im enjoying this soap opera while it lasts. :icon_razz:
Well, he said he was going to shock people! He is quite the clever boy...keeping us all on our toes. But sometimes she does look more like him than I remembered. It was a red flag that he'd have his mom gallivanting all over, the first couple years, a major player in this adventure, in her eighties. It could also be one of his doubles playing the part of her, too. I'm so glad you mentioned that here! I thought I was seeing things. :icon_lol:
@suspicious mind, I did hear the song was written a while ago, and I think this song is another hoax song. I don't think he wanted to escape his life then, either. He would have opted out then, instead of planning a great big HOAX for years, and feeding it for five more! Does this mean he loves us more? :icon_e_biggrin: The words in the song may hold some truth, but some are hoax words, to drive the fiction that he's a tortured soul and take us for a ride by our emotions. He wants us to lose all hope of his ever showing up in our lives again. All so we can't predict anything about him! It's probably going to get much scarier before it gets better. :icon_pale: When we all give up,
BAM, there he'll be! :multiplespotting:
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« on: September 08, 2014, 10:38:22 PM »
@its her, I love your way of analyzing things. I think MJ left so much up in the air for us to figure out. But then I thought about the whole kidnapped Katherine story last year. When I looked at the pics of Katherine playing cards at the table with Rebbie after she supposedly came back home, my jaw dropped. To me, that does not look like Katherine at all.
When was she last seen? Why is she wearing that same blue outfit in almost every pic we have seen of her in the past few years? Was she in danger? Or is that just another distraction? im confused as to all. The lyrics are plain as day. But did he mean something other than what he said?
Could his "mother" really be his "mama" as in his lover? Or did he and Katherine really get away? idk
Hey, thank you, michaelslady! I think the blue outfit is some kind of purposeful clue, and SimPatty had lots of collages of these on the forum somewhere, but talk about jaw dropping--- try this on for size: have you ever wondered if MJ is impersonating his own mom sometimes? I swear, sometimes, she is a natural, softspoken, genteel, kind of nervous (about saying something wrong and blowing the Hoax on tv) southern lady, but once or twice, she seemed to be, er, :icon_albino: disguised as herself :affraid: :icon_e_surprised:.
I don't know how better to say it! :errrr: (!) Do NOT take this wrongly, but, I mean, more made up than usual, and um, less "Mom-ish" (that is, other-centered: proud and sweetly mindful of pleasing her son Michael) but more sure of herself, in a self-oriented kind of manner ("I AM Michael and this is how I want it done"). That make sense? :icon_e_confused:
I haven't mentioned it before you did, in case :icon_redface: :icon_redface: she was just having a bad hair day, but now I wonder if it was really a :michael_jackson-1135: THAT kind of "BAD" hair day. She didn't have that "rushed-but-oh-well" look in her eyes :bearhug:, that mommies do sometimes. A guy wouldn't. It's totally a girl thing.
Hey---this is a blockbuster hoax, I will question everything. :computer-losy-smiley: It is NOT beyond MJ to dress up like anyone, even himself, why not even his parents! Actually, it would be most considerate of him to take some of her many planned appearances for her! :beerchug:
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« on: September 06, 2014, 01:07:40 AM »
ok so I finally broke down and bought the Xscape album a few weeks ago. I never bought the "Michael" cd because something just didn't rub me right regarding it. But I thought it was weird how heavily this new album seemed to be promoted. So I caved and bought it. I love it. Especially Chicago and Do You Know Where Your Children Are? So I know that he tends to hide lyrics in his songs and some songs even have dual meanings. I listened to the cd at least 100 times before I noticed some spoken lyrics in a couple of songs.
1. Do You Know Where Your Children Are:
He's talking about the little girl thru the first and second verses. Then suddenly in the bridge he says:
" Save Me" but next lyric is inaudible
"Save Me, I'm tired of the life"
"Save Me, I, I wanna go"
"Save Me" then inaudible
"Save Me, I, I wanna leave"
Does NOT fit in with the song whatsoever. None of the adlibs or lyrics that I highlighted in red are written in the lyrics part of the book that came with the cd. That's so weird to me. When I finally heard this, I started the song over 6 times. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. If you are not paying attention, you can miss it. But once you're aware, it is very clear. It broke my heart to hear this. Was he truly asking somebody to help him. His voice seemed so sincere.
2. Xscape
I have to be honest, this song had to grow on me. But after listening to it a few times. Towards the end of the song, he says:
"I got to get away with my mother, with my mother" :omg:
Those words are not written in the lyrics in the book either. What could it mean? I thought about the whole Katherine Jackson being kidnapped story last year that was reported in the media. Anyone care to elaborate or chime in?
Hey, that is interesting, that he has left it up in the air, a mystery, subject to whichever ear is listening (& not written down in the official lyrics). But although we don't know him, except for what he has allowed us to "know" about him--- and he has demonstrated great protective love for his mom, I can't believe MJ, at 56 years old, is a guy actually wishing most to get away with his mother. Are you certain he isn't saying his "brother" (his twin :icon_e_surprised:  ), or more likely, his "Other" (his woman--remember the song at the end of Tll, "I hadn't anyone until you...")? Now THAT was to me. But he was pulling our legs, and pulling on our heartstrings. Right? :icon_lol: :icon_cry:
He COULD be still :icon_albino: "playing with us", AGAIN. :icon_rolleyes: He's REALLY good at this. :icon_e_wink: I actually don't expect anything else, by now! :over-react-smiley: :smiley-vault-misc-150: He cranks out fiction like rabbits crank out rabbits. :suspect: I think the idea that he wants to "get away from it all" is complete fiction, and has been. :icon_e_surprised: He is enjoying this life he has crafted for himself, hiding in plain sight in a cloak of fiction and controversy (and I don't mean that in a harsh way. To loosely quote the latest Houdini venture, he is an "actor playing a magician", and with smoke and m i r r o r s as his playthings, nothing BUT :bowdown: perfected illusion, as a seasoned performer, could be the result . :michael_jackson-1135:).
I could be wrong, but that's my take on it :icon_e_smile:. :icon_geek:
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« on: September 05, 2014, 05:47:34 AM »
@ To Be or not To Be:
Well, um...I was being serious. I "get" fiendish and revolutionary type laughter, and I get foolish laughter, but I don't get your meaning here, or your laughing at :LolLolLolLol: everything :LolLolLolLol: you say. :LolLolLolLol: Are you saying that all these dead people had to go underground, literally, real-ly, in order to form some kind of "Justice League"? Well...I did think it was strange that Mrs (M.L.)King herself, flew home with the "body" of Bobby Kennedy... That was nothing but bizarre. But, it doesn't make sense that Robert Kennedy did all that campaigning, neglecting his ten kids and wife, just for a smokescreen....why are you laughing? Is it funny that he and his ex-president brother (sort of a new Batman and Robin) DASHED everybody's hopes on the rocks and wasted all their education and station in life hiding out on the ocean for forty years, instead of making that change they had at their fingertips?? What is Ted Kennedy's excuse then, if you think working his way into the Senate, and dying there years later, was the mediocre way to go? I don't understand at all. What on earth do you know? :icon_pale:
And, heck yeah, the history as reported is mostly bogus, YOU know it. I say so, and I know this because those doing it are still spinning today's news as they document it for posterity. They would be spinning the outcome of this :affraid: very Hoax, too, except that a certain Puppet Master has cleverly, authoritatively coded and taken steps to control his own narrative these days...Now THAT is funny.  That's just ONE reason why I am still watchin'!
Why not ?If this MF bastards( that BTW are watching :images: )are laughing at our expense......why not.
And yes ,hiSTORY is indeed bogus.....a story/fiction,anything but real :errrr: .People beLIEve everything that is told to them......talking about "manipulate" weather ,or should I say people  .
Ok. Well...SHEEEESH . Why don't you tell us how you really feel? I was worried about you :suspect: (laughing so much to yourself) (we used to have a special room for that here!), but now that I realize you have pulled a Houdini and shucked your buckled straightjacket, I guess some sputtering is allowed. :Crash: But-- :omg: :icon_exclaim: do you mean Michael Jackson's plan is not going "head to head" as "they" have expected, but, he has out thunk TPTB again, by stealthfully going inside/ out? That the REAL plan (besides flipping them off with emoticons :TongueOutSmiley:) actually involves GROWTH and change, not REVOLT and change Oh KAY :icon_exclaim: That's a whole (n)other animal! :icon_lol: Very sly. Aren't YOU the clever one, 2B...
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« on: September 01, 2014, 03:35:55 AM »
I know I've said it many times before but I love your writing Its her! I don't agree with everything you say but it would certainly be amazingly awesome if the gist of your theory ever turns out to be correct. I don't have your confidence, but you always remind me of how it might be, and take me to a happy place, even if just for a few moments! :icon_e_biggrin:
Aaaaaawwwwww! :bearhug: Thank you for telling me! :icon_e_smile:
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« on: August 31, 2014, 04:38:00 AM »
1. What is your username and has it always been the same?
Its her, the same, yesterday, today and could be 4ever.
2. What made you look into the hoax and when?
The interview at Neverland with Larry King, Jermaine and his “flies circus” :thjajaja121:, suggesting that something smells about everything Jermaine says, or even at Neverland in general!
3. What do you think is his reason to hoax his death?
Multiple personal reasons (lifelong, heartfelt personal goals behind the scenes, such as "loosing the bonds of wickedness, opening eyes, setting the captives free, turning many to righteousness", oh, and revealing his massive 30 year Illusion :icon_e_surprised:, etc ), but mostly to top everything ANY performer has ever done, as The Greatest Show On Earth, Ever.
4. Who do you think are 100% in on the hoax?
I believe MJ has had people keeping his secrets, small and large, since the mid 70s, beginning with concealing his birth certificate (I don’t think it was concealed until then)! Those in on the Hoax include everyone in the Liberian Girl, This Is It, and MJ Death, Memorial & Funeral films; Every celebrity who has also mysteriously “died” under dramatic, almost soap opera circumstances (David Carradine, JFK Junior), especially with a significant other (of theirs) dying soon after; Michael’s immediate family, friends and everyone on his payroll, including those who said :icon_albino: they “dressed” or we “saw”, :icon_rolleyes: handle his “corpse”; Every celebrity who has publicly commented on his death, including President Obama, Donald Trump, Paul McCartney, Larry King and Whitney Houston, who whadda ya know, has died herself, now! I also believe that he has cleared such a humongous cloak and dagger deception with National Security, for legal reasons and his own safety (the government :suspect: doesn’t like grandiose surprises which make them appear inept and stooge-like), which would necessarily include the President of the U.S., and as many Federal and local law enforcement people as it takes to turn a blind eye on purpose to things which are part and parcel of MJ’s Illusion. Also every person who has assisted MJ in OTHER hoaxes, probably as practice efforts leading up to the REAL THING, such as his fake marriages and fake Pepsi commercial mishap. His Hoax Biographers Randy Taraborelli and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach :icon_eek: , and all his attorneys! It would be quicker to name those NOT in on this hoax. :LolLolLolLol: Oh yeah, Evan Chandler, Jack Nicholson, and Dame Elizabeth Taylor, too. She would not have cooked in the heat for hours at his funeral unless she knew HE would know and be disappointed if she simply sneaked out sparing herself that torture! She knew he had not died.
5. Do you think he will come back and if yes; why, when and how? If not, why do you think he will not return?
Of course he will come back---what kind of movie plays no ending credits?? What kind of actor in a play takes NO bow at the end?? But, will anyone believe it is really him? Nah. His own long time fans don’t even recognize him now from the millions of pictures of his doubles. When and how? Errr, “Remember remember, the 5th of November…” Idk how, but I expect some fireworks. Perhaps he is making a movie for theater release, an O.J. type narrative called "How I Did It" which the trailer will suggest another kind of movie, but he will :WTF: really use to 'splain THAT he did it (Hoax his death) and how. :icon_e_wink: Don't choke on yer popcorn, when he walks back in to yer life!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: ha ha ha ha
6. Do you believe MJ reads the forum and do you think he posts. If yes, do you have a suspect?
Heck, YES! He LIKES to watch. (And, I think he simply can’t resist playing with us!) Not to mention the pure genius, of inventing a way to anonymously keep his finger on Fan Pulse, so he can act accordingly if it begins to weaken (or, race dangerously :icon_e_wink:)…I have had many suspects. When I actually believe the person we think we “know” as “Michael Jackson” is not a fictional character being played by cleverly handpicked actors, but a puppet Master lurking over his favorite project, I suspect :animal0017: those who display a certain wry and challenging wit, almost mocking us. Remember, this is a guy who believes he can get with any female on earth, according to the conversation leading into the album song, You Rock My World. The “peacockery” (display and stomp ) is unmistakable to me in certain posts, but whether I am right or not remains to be seen. I suspect “he” has spoken to every one of us at one time or another. Very, very sociable and quietly friendly guy. Makes you wish he was real.
7. How long do you think this hoax was in the planning? Please explain why.
THIS Hoax was seeded into being in the late seventies. I think he spent at least a decade perfecting his magic trickery and effects for his live shows, and when his solo Thriller film took off like wildfire, he realized that he could actually pull even a Rabbit of THIS magnitude out of his hat. He’s stated that since his dad Joseph scared him that one night by appearing in the open window wearing some frightful mask, he NEVER forgot that FEELING (of THRILLING FRIGHT and of course in his Moonwalker book, he shared his heartfelt dream to MAKE people FEEL things very strongly through his work). What’s more rattling than shock and fear and death? And, to take the edge off it all, he DID foretell it all in his lyrics over the years, what he WOULD do---just so as not to give anyone a real heart attack. But of course, EVERYONE completely forgot it-- if anyone ever DID even get what he was doing, beforehand, and the world cried like the brokenhearted hopeless anyway!
8. Do you think we have overlooked something or haven’t examined enough and if so, what?
Yesssssssss! I think we need to take another, deep look at the Liberian Girl video. And I also wonder why NO one has mentioned that the movie Men In Black is on TV two - four times a week ALL this year so far! I’ve never seen a movie played so much in my entire life watching TV. I believe there is something in that movie which relates to this Hoax, and that it will keep playing until someone spots it. It dawned on me a few years ago, that if an industrious individual had a burning desire to make movies all his life, he would NOT wait until he was middle aged to do it! Someone else might, “after the kids leave the nest” or, to gather some start-up money, or some other excuse, but NOT Michael Jackson, someone whose every project turns automatically into pure gold, WHY would HE wait until he was fifty years old and now that movies are mostly digital??? I think he has been making movies since the eighties, no matter WHOSE names are on them. :icon_eek: And Men In Black is significant to this Hoax in a big way, whether he made it, wrote it, or as a sponsor, just tucked something into it, subliminally, as Hollywood is notorious for. What else could Keep Watchin mean?? Unless he meant keep watchin for JESUS, but it seems to me that that has been abandoned here, right? or not? :icon_e_confused:
9. Which part of the hoax do you like less?
Vicious arguing between fellow BeLIEvers. Not so much anymore, but it has been hairy at times. So unpleasant. Passengers here, on this adventure, saying say rude things under cloak of Usernames, with no respect or consideration for a fellow rider’s feelings, which they would never say to anyone in person. (Which they would never say to MJ himself or anyone representing him as an insider here, either, if they knew.) Some of it may have been started by Mr. “Wanna Be Startin Somethin” himself , but, it’s still the part I liked least.
10. What do you think is the best hoax video / YouTube channel?
11. Do you think O2 guy was MJ?
I don’t think “MJ” is MJ!! I think he has consistently hired that part out after Thriller… :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
12. What old topic should be discussed again you think?
Liberian Girl short film, and why each person is in Michael’s video? What do each of them have to do with MJ? Also, films which have Michaelish elements in them, possibly on purpose, as pawprint-proofs leading straight to him!!!!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
13. If you would have to make a non-believer reconsider and you could pick 3 things to make your point, which 3 things will that be?
{One} would be the uncanny, spot on mention or actual predictions in his works, lyrics and short films, of events, situations, sentiments and people :icon_exclaim:
{Two} would be “The Estate” hitting the ground RUNNING, with regard to tripling his net worth, when his death was supposedly a paralyzing shock to everybody. Sudden death tends to bring everyone to their knees for a good while, not instantly mobilize personnel enough to crank out three Hoax films and what else do ya know? A live Hoax Death website (Amy's, I mean)
{Three} would be just the speed with which the whole CIRCUS sprung up right on the tail of the reported “death”, as if it were serious, expeditious, :omg: :omg: damage control :affraid: :affraid:. There was the “announcement” of MJ taken to the hospital and a small vigil of locals outside holding their breaths, then, at the hour of death and into the night, hoards of overwrought people sobbing their hearts out. I think maybe three of them interviewed were MJ-plants, to dramatize the mourning process---especially the chubby lady holding her little boy to her chest and scaring him to death, bawling all over him as if MJ was his daddy... but the MILLIONS of OTHER sobbing people were very real, and it appeared to me to be the world’s turn to shock MJ out of his royal sox, and into scurrying to stop all the real crying he really, really had not prepared himself for :icon_exclaim: This guy scripts e v e r y thing, even some hysterical mourners...and I felt some apprehensive alarm there--hard to describe---when the audience took over the "stage" there, and almost became the story!! THE very NEXT DAY, Larry King and Jermaine Jackson played like Groucho and Harpo Marx (respectively), at Neverland. Then Auntie Jemima (the syrup lady), MJ’s “spiritual advisor” came out of the woodwork saying he was begging her for drugs…
On Thursday when a newsman was all choked up as he reported MJ dead, I believed it was real. But by Monday, not so much. It was just too ridiculous, even though it got worse and worse, over the top! the details, I mean. I posted already on this subject somewhere here, and I have used these arguments on non believers without success. But, whatever; Jesus predicted once that sometimes people won’t even believe when one “comes back from the dead”. I know that is true! If MJ does reappear, swearing that this whole death adventure was a Hoax, some will still not believe it. He already knows this and had documented proofs over and over in his work and history that yes, it HAS been planned and carried out according to that plan since whenever he thought it up. The truth will be in the math, I think.
14. Is there anything you believe about the hoax/MJ that you rather not say because you think people will think you are crazy? If yes, please share! Hahahaha.
I KNOW people already think I am crazy. If I told you, it would frighten the crap out of you. I think Michael Jackson discovered something when he was studying the human brain, and when he exposes this, it WILL be the greatest demonstration of freedom EVER--just as someone said!! :bowdown: :bowdown: Go WATCH Men In Black. People will not believe it, but he will be able to prove he has used this :icon_albino: technology himself on the world to accomplish his Illusion.
It’s not the ONLY thing this Hoax will have accomplished, but everything he has planned is related to RE-conditioning folk to think for themselves, to right wrongs, and to give everyone with “an ear to hear” the facts they have needed for decades and decades in order TO think correctly for themselves. There will be some who will go back asleep, just as surely as a person rolls over on their other side to continue sleeping, though awakened briefly, but it won’t be that he didn’t change the rest of their world, ANYWAY, too. :michael_jackson-1135: :over-react-smiley:. For some of us, he’s had our full, rapt attention for five years. Souza said he was trying to make us SEE. I think his reappearance will be the other shock, the second "shoe drop", the :icon_e_biggrin: awaited shock, one more chance to wake everyone up, so as many as possible can “see”. :multiplespotting:
15. What made you laugh the hardest the past 4 years?
Jermaine's flies---SO annoying :icon_lol: until I calmed down and "got it"--- omiGOSH!; the notion of Michael Jackson begging for anything from anyone, let alone drugs :TongueOutSmiley: ; my being referred to as “Its who”. :icon_e_surprised: Hysterical! And, way before that, Ginafelicia remarked one time, in her way, “Why oh why, am I here obsessing over Michael Jackson, when I should be out spending my husband’s money?” I thought, “WHAT?? :icon_e_surprised: YEAH, does the guy even know your heart is not his???” But then I realized no one could resist Michael Jackson’s spell, and yes, you know her sweety had to wait around for her to get her “MJDHI fix” every day. Hah ha ha ha. :icon_lol: That tickled me for months---picturing every time she posted, her husband and his money with cobwebs on them, in the back seat of the Hoax coach, while she worried about MJ online!! She was funnier than cr@p. Haven’t heard from her in a while. :icon_e_sad:
Oh, and I think Michael Jackson is THE nuttiest. I’ve enjoyed discovering this. I never knew. :icon_e_biggrin:
16. Anything else you want to share or questions you think should be added?
Yes. I wanted to explore more, what “new career” or shocking new turn in life MJ could possibly have planned for himself, which he or others thought might anger or upset some of his fans. We talked about it a while back, for a few pages and then, without coming to any conclusions, nevermore. We know he has been at work these last five years, producing all kinds of entertainment. When is this change in his career, supposedly, to commence? Is it one of those, "Is That Scary For Ya?", just a rumor to make us all mad, or has he already shifted into his new career, right under our noses? I think the latter. But it’s nothing to get huffy about, so maybe I am wrong. Any thoughts? Also, I think we've become quite a little club here, and as such we should each be issued a Secret Decoder Ring :icon_exclaim: :icon_bounce: :icon_albino: :bearhug:
JK. :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
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« on: August 21, 2014, 08:00:13 AM »
@ To Be or not To Be:
Well, um...I was being serious. I "get" fiendish and revolutionary type laughter, and I get foolish laughter, but I don't get your meaning here, or your laughing at :LolLolLolLol: everything :LolLolLolLol: you say. :LolLolLolLol: Are you saying that all these dead people had to go underground, literally, real-ly, in order to form some kind of "Justice League"? Well...I did think it was strange that Mrs (M.L.)King herself, flew home with the "body" of Bobby Kennedy... That was nothing but bizarre. But, it doesn't make sense that Robert Kennedy did all that campaigning, neglecting his ten kids and wife, just for a smokescreen....why are you laughing? Is it funny that he and his ex-president brother (sort of a new Batman and Robin) DASHED everybody's hopes on the rocks and wasted all their education and station in life hiding out on the ocean for forty years, instead of making that change they had at their fingertips?? What is Ted Kennedy's excuse then, if you think working his way into the Senate, and dying there years later, was the mediocre way to go? I don't understand at all. What on earth do you know? :icon_pale:
And, heck yeah, the history as reported is mostly bogus, YOU know it. I say so, and I know this because those doing it are still spinning today's news as they document it for posterity. They would be spinning the outcome of this :affraid: very Hoax, too, except that a certain Puppet Master has cleverly, authoritatively coded and taken steps to control his own narrative these days...Now THAT is funny. That's just ONE reason why I am still watchin'!
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