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@To Be or Not To Be, re: this:"Robin Williams LIVES on lol !!!!"

Well...you should know, shouldn't you.  :icon_e_surprised:  ;)

But, about your post here, How much further (back?) are we talking about, and is that horizontally, historically or vertically? :icon_e_confused:  :confused:


@ Suspicious Mind, Yup,  :) I knew exactly what you saw! Good eye! :icon_e_wink: WR appears to me to truly have a conscience, hence the creeping himself out, with this charade  :-[ yet,  an iron will to go through with his act, and I don't think for money, but for some worthy MJ purpose, which, Idk what, remains to be revealed :icon_bounce:. I'm so glad I saw this on his face!!  :bowdown: Michael Jackson can persuade people to do practically anything! Why? Because they are loyal to him and trust him and recognize him as a leader and champion of good cause. Just watch :icon_exclaim: :smiley_abuv:

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Hello It's Her,

first, i want to thank you for your reply. i try to reply to you but it will be later, i have difficultys to explain what i want to say. due to language. and it will cost mtime wich i havent right now.

i will add a link about wade robsons body languages, wich is imo interesting:

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Hi Shy, I think his body language is TOO subdued for him to be telling "his" truth or ANY other truth!  :icon_e_biggrin: He has been "coached" very well---and I DO mean Hoax Coached!!! :icon_albino: Notice how he almost RECOILS from SAYing anything specifically creepy, as Matt Lauer prods him!!! It is very very very subtle...but he stays in character, bites the bullet and says JUST what M.L. said (loosely that:), "he did things to me and I did things to him".

Usually grown victims are so sickened & incensed by what things they remember of the abuse, and are shockingly plain about it in order to make their audience feel AS repulsed as well. Even victims who are horrified and almost ashamed of their part (being there, submitting to it), mince NO words about what happened lest they not be taken seriously. His  :icon_arrow: milli-second hesitation to give what few gory details he could on television, tells what he knows to be true in his core, that MJ never did this. It doesn't ring true at all that he believed for one second that these kinds of acts are "loving", "but let's keep it between us". He wasn't  5, he was 7-14!, he said, and even a seven year old knows if you have to hide something from your parents or friends, IT MUST BE WRONG SOME how. Even a low functioning late bloomer would have realized it before 12, even if he didn’t do anything about it. YUK!  :icon_mad: It's another LIE that he only reacted inside with disgust about this happening to him when he had a son himself! Who does THAT?  :icon_e_confused: :errrr:

I believe WR is a big Hoaxer. Now...WHY?

Not only was it verrrry interesting  :D that he volunteered the information that these memories were not "repressed memories”, but it is MORE interesting that Lauer and the body language expert went there as if it made a difference, or they were calling out the difference, officially.  People have been winning court cases with "repressed" memories for decades, and about half the people who hear about these instances believe people can peacefully live years with their abuser and not KNOW it until someone digs in their minds and finds these "memories”. Actually, (and this is very unpopular) there is no such thing; people who were traumatized enough to have lost those memories are also damaged physically (in the brain, as in car crashes or beatings), and these memories are not recoverable, no matter who digs in there. Sometimes "suggestion by therapist" memories are taken for what they are worth, evidentially, and thrown out. Maybe that's why it was drawn attention to, there. Maybe that was the most important point of the entire interview, a point of contention in his case. Maybe this court case is to establish some manner of case law on this subject (if there is none already), and stop either batty or crafty criminal professionals from turning patients into cash cows by declaring “the doctrine of repressed memories” to be fiction? But if his memories were not ever repressed, just denied, this point is not even relevant. Idk, just reaching. But three people on the vid made a point about it in the space of a few minutes!  :suspect: It means something...

Maybe WR only made the point of stating it so his case WON'T be thrown out as memories manufactured way after the fact. If so, he is expecting everyone to believe that these memories were on his mind AS he was covering for his abuser in right in court! Does that ever  :icon_rolleyes: happen outside of some gangsters threatening your whole family if you don't testify FOR the accused? (Most victims are terrified of facing in court someone who hurt & humiliated them!) Is that what he is faking to reveal?? Nothing like this involves WR OR MJ truly. What  :confused: is all this a smokescreen for, then?  :Pulling_hair:

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@ it's her,....From what source do you get your information ??

I read a lot. At one time it was my job to keep up with Sex Offender Law and news. That's when I first learned about the supposed "list" or records. When clergy in the Catholic church began to make headlines as child abusers, a "btw" was in that news that other churches have their own (private, internal) ways of dealing with self-confessed or accused abusers, also, and that the JW church had kept extensive records on members, since its beginning beCAUSE of their practice to micromanage the members' personal spiritual walks and progress, with threats of being excommunicated for not being fully submitting to church authority and personal directives of elders. I have read enough religious (not only JW) horror stories in books, to think that some of it is more than just disgruntled ex-members lashing out. But it is the actual court cases which ring true. People who are shamed into conformity for generations do not go to the expense of sticking their neck out in courts of law, embarrassing their families, unless there has been real injury to be addressed.   

The material I read at that time is long gone in my old work files, but may be online somewhere. It wasn't classified or anything, but in the daily news (for what that's worth).  But here is a link to examples of the kind of things which happened and how the church misguidedly tried to handle criminal situations "in house". In some cases, it appears that elders simply didn't believe what they were hearing from women and children as they reported such filth about respected ministers, known to them! But whatever---they had no authority to block (by intimidation & censure of entire families) alleged victims from reporting this to law enforcement or Child Services for proper investigation. This is what people are up in arms about. ALL this festering injury under religious cover, and REPEATING instances!

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And I didn't mean that MJ's old church government had any TRUE derogatory reports on him in any way! Only records documenting that, as one of their ministers, he was formally accused(and cleared of!)certain criminal events/ actions. We already KNOW it to be a fact that the church tried to interfere with his work and art, poisoning his mind about promoting the occult and creating product unbecoming a minister of the church with the Thriller short film...well,  :suspect:  :icon_e_surprised: unless he or Randy Taraborelli made that up, about why MJ placed a disclaimer at the beginning of the film. I know he has a flair for the  :icon_albino: controversial, but I don't think he made that up about his own (then) church. I think it is evidence that someone HAD intimidated him about it!

They misunderstood him and leaned on him about it, to control him and he set everyone straight (and back, on their butts, btw!  :th_bravo: ) by declaring his convictions ON the film and making history with it. Sometimes a man has to remind the confused herd WHO is the boss of his own soul and destiny. :icon_mrgreen: :smiley_abuv: 

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Applehead, isn't that quote from the movie Now You See Me?  A great clue movie, IMO.  In any case, I think Wade is helping to set something up.   If Michael wants to clear his name once and for all, he may choose to revisit the matter and deal with it head on once and for all.  After all, it's from TMZ!

HOW? How is more allegations EVER going to clear his name?

That is a good question and I can't say I have the answer.  After all, Michael has outthought me at every turn so far!  I'm not so sure all the PR over the last 5 years has done much to change the minds of the people who believed he was/is a pedophile.  Perhaps Michael is using this story to gauge public reaction.  Perhaps Wade is part of a sting operation.  I really don't know.  But I'm convinced Wade Robson is working under Michael's direction.  And if he drew the short straw and gets to play the bad guy for the moment, so be it.

Ha!  :icon_lol: yeah. There used to be a looong list of molesters of children held by the JW church officials. These hundreds of thousands of names were supposedly adults within the various fellowships nationwide who approached elders for absolution or counseling or behavior modification from the church, and also reported names from victims in the churches, who were "hushed up" and counselled as well by the hierarchy. They said that no one would be served by public scorn of the sick and the injured (and most of the injured were not taken seriously as victims but as disrespectful kids trying to control certain adults with lies).

None  :icon_e_confused: of these cases ever were investigated by law enforcement or social services, as the church wished to handle things, themselves... except a few who were terrorized enough to leave the church and seek legal advice. This alleged list was a holy grail when the Federal Sex Offender legislation was enacted which made it a crime not to report this to police, and required public register of such felons, and law enforcement tried to get it by any means. I never heard any more about it.

Perhaps they never could get the church officials to admit they kept such records, and MJ who may have been muscled more than once by "Them" and realized the true existence of it, is using someone who owes him bigtime to break these secrets wide open. I don't logically see how, but we don't really have enough facts yet. Was this guy a JW ever? Maybe they are trying to force the church governors to cough up something on MJ to silence all the persecution of "one of their own" (since he's died), as a wedge which will open the secret vault of ALL the records? They once were all about protecting their own "faithful".... Maybe they just need to be able to prove SOME thing on him was kept in those records, in order to subpoena EVERYTHING on record there? IDK. It could very well be a sting of sorts, and Mr. "Rhinocerous skin" would be the perfect hero to FAKE a fall for this! :bowdown: :woohoo2: ;D I'm just hiding and watching, WOW! :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

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Neverland / Re: Colony Capital to sell Neverland
« on: August 08, 2014, 04:26:32 PM »
This news is a classic example of "looks like" don't mean, "IS". Years ago when MJ supposedly swore off ever going back there because it was contaminated by cops & Sneddon doing a photographed strip search there, it was reported that all of Playland and the zoo and the animals were removed to other locations not owned by MJ. So, either there are or are not these things still on the property, but in any case it can't be both.

The August 2014 article is passing off old pictures as items currently for sale on the property. This is dishonest, or just lazy journalism. Anyone who looks at the place in person will realize they've been illegally had. Anyway, no one would leave all kinds of rides outside to degrade for ten years, and what's to restore? MJ didn't ruin the place on his way out, as so many tenants do to properties they didn't own. And as far as I can tell (only seeing what the Puppet Master wants us to see), it appears to me that while MJ SAID he lived there, he neglected to make ANY personal decor changes, as ALL people do once they've signed the papers on a home. It seemed like he moved a bunch of toys, paintings and books in, but expects us to believe HE (Mr. "I'm A Perfectionist" :icon_geek:) swapped out NONE of the curtains or fabrics or the furniture there, as soon as he could? He didn't even change one paint color on the walls in the pictures. It could be just a guy thing or that he was too busy, but the MJ home in the Architectural Digest spread pictured in these Hoax archives some where, looks the same as the home in the real estate brochure supposedly shown to some friends as he was considering buying it, a few years earlier... Besides, we SAW the empty house and vacated grounds on the Larry King show the Friday after MJ "died". Or DID we? Jermaine and his flies were so distracting, Idk anything anymore!  :screaming-7365: What we saw on the Oprah and the Bashir specials probably  :icon_e_surprised: wasn't even at the same property!  :icon_albino: :icon_razz: But even so, it was only a memory by 2009. He made all of it disappear. I think it was just another stage for Michael to work his magic (and make a couple of hoax movies about his life) :icon_eek:. And it could be that they are just trying to plump up the price by the connection to Michael Jackson, eh? It wouldn't be the first time.

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Revisiting Old Stuff / Re: Why are you still watching?
« on: August 07, 2014, 03:57:57 PM »
Do you think the Kennedy family lied all this time, or only that there is a cover up about the true killing of JFK? What is the Hoax part? Do you think Bobby K and JFK Jr are alive as well??? maybe even Martin Luther King???????? WHY abdicate power that one has in hand??? It is very real that things were reversed which JFK had changed. Dropping the ball mid throw is not a Kennedy thing. And Junior ACTED like he was very cautiously picking up his DEAD father and uncle's mantles in a different way, not like they were directing him from behind a curtain. What are you saying this is to accomplish, I mean WHAT for?? You don't believe Jackie's own response to everything, including writing her "tell all" book to be published after all who witnessed that day are dead? ??? ?? If no one is dead, why the strange caution about her adult children? Are you saying ALL of that was to misdirect from some other event or plan in the works all these years? Or has THAT been accomplished already, and we just need to expose things for correct historical record (as if there is such a thing)? Idk.... :icon_e_confused: Who would Junior be hiding from and what could make it safe for him to show himself alive, NOW? And how do YOU know this? And where does MJ fit in? I know...this one is off topic...but tell me anyway! :icon_geek:

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Neverland / Re: Colony Capital to sell Neverland
« on: August 07, 2014, 02:55:25 PM »
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Hi:

You will soon be reading news reports stating that Colony Capital has decided to sell Neverland. As the property manager, they have the right to do this. The Estate has issued the following statement in response to a media request for comment:

We are saddened at the prospect of the sale of Neverland which, under the agreement negotiated during Michael's lifetime, Colony has the right to sell. The Estate will maintain Michael's family home in Encino, including its iconic recording studio there. We continue to build upon Michael's legacy as an artistic genius and humanitarian through his music and new projects such as the Michael Jackson ONE show in Las Vegas. We hope and trust that any new owners of Neverland will respect the historical importance and special nature of this wonderful property. Michael's memory lives on in the hearts of his fans worldwide.

It is also important to the Estate that Michael's fans understand that although the Estate has no right to stop or obstruct the sale, The Estate did explore a number of potential options for Neverland with Colony but zoning, financial and land use restrictions limited the alternatives and ultimately Colony made the decision to sell.


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It is not a surprise for me lol,cause for me, NeverLAND was/is , like a........ "Land that never was"  :LolLolLolLol: !!!!
I hope this is not off topic in some way. I don't get how that works, much :icon_redface:. Move this to a proper place if you like. :icon_e_smile:

@2B: I have felt for some time that MJ neverlived at Neverland, and for the last few years, it appears that he is eerily, methodically erasing  THE "Michael Jackson" as we thought we "knew" him, from the face of the map!! Especially, since 2011, there has been a very definite, "now you see him now you don't" kind of vibe all about him.

Did you ever go try to find  :icon_albino: traces of something remaining after the circus left town, to find some thing real left behind, even just the holes where the stakes for the tents were pounded in, or impressions in the dirt that a Ferris wheel had been right here :icon_bounce: :icon_razz: or, even just where you had dropped your popcorn yesterday there, right... there? :icon_e_confused: :confused:---but there is NO trace, no hint of evidence that all the fun the days before REALLY happened! and...not even that you were there, either. Like a dream or illusion...Like Michael Jackson.  It is NOT like 'Elvis (& now MJ)has left the building', it is more like, as when the circus leaves town, "HEY! You cannot even TELL where it was!" Have you ever felt like that?  It is freaking me out that this is another one of those things. And I think YOU (To Be or not To Be)

know " :LolLolLolLol: "

it is,  :icon_e_surprised: even though you qualified what you said by saying "(as) for me..." and laffing as if it is not a bold faced, stealthfully placed, nugget of Truth, when you have been there and actually know.

It is sad, in a sentimental way, to feel like we are losing more of him because "his" home is on the (sale) block, but I think this is just another illusion about Michael Jackson: that he ever actually lived there. If you look at all the pictures, even those picturing him there, none of them are evidence that HE lives THERE. Everything can be staged, very purposefully, and this secluded, secured, remote property would be a piece of cake to blow all kinds of smoke up our...way. He's a master illusionist. He eats, sleeps and breathes smoke and mirrors! I think he one day realized that people were never going to leave him alone, always wanting more of him, and to know ALL about him and his private life. So....he gave the media, stalkers, lovers and haters ALL an eyeful of his "private" digs; a ginormous, sleight of hand whopper of a pacifier! And everyone ate it up, because "it was SO him, larger than life...".

I'm not trying to spark contention, or stomp the lovely memories :-*, only plant a little seed of, "WHAT IF?" As BeLIEvers, now,we want the truth, right? We don't want to believe a lie all our lives...right? I am offering the idea that this may be part of his Big Top illusion  :icon_e_surprised: and to not let it so break your hearts that some evil meanie is somehow robbing us of sacred Neverland.  :-\

Just saying that there is something decidedly "NOT my home" about all the pictures and videos we have seen of his home. Spectacular Real Estate is regularly leased out for movies and just to make money for the owner while it sits on the market for extended periods. It is not a big stretch to "see" MJ doing this. :michael_jackson-1135: He da man.

It IS, though, yet another thing for which to spank him. :o  :icon_e_biggrin:


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I think it is an homage concert/BAM show. Does anyone remember a book by Bruce Swedien, titled, In the Studio With MJ ? I think that was the guy's name. He was the one who, among other (long list) events, stumbled upon MJ alone in the studio thanking God for his gift!  :icon_bounce:  :icon_e_biggrin: This is not "small potatoes" :affraid: :bowdown:

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Revisiting Old Stuff / Re: Why are you still watching?
« on: August 06, 2014, 02:38:34 AM »
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What keeps you here? Aka, what makes you keep watching?

Approaching 5 years, arguably the hoax has hit an impasse, the radio silence is deafening, and it's tempting to give up and throw in the towel and yet... there are many still here, lurking, waiting, watching. Why? What are you waiting for?

I don't know what happened, I don't know if we made it all up, but the amount of time that has passed combined with this complete and utter silence from hoax HQ, makes me seriously doubt that this project has an ending even remotely like what we used to speculate and even expect to come to fruition.

I do now wonder if this is how MJ chose to exit his public life, and this is the legacy he chose for his persona; the perpetual hoax, to lay the foundation for permanent expectations to top Elvis, to keep an underground facet of faithful, ever waiting for his hoax to be revealed--and leave it that way forever. The ultimate man of mystery, left a mystery for the ages. Our generation's Elvis, and maybe that was good enough for him.

So tell me what you think. Why are you still here? What keeps you hanging on?

Well I have my personal reasons  :D .....but one of them is, that I want to know how this "charade" ends ...... if it will ever end lol  :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: !!!!

Me 2. But, Charade :icon_question: HAH! One of many :icon_exclaim: :icon_e_surprised: It's going to take five more years to explain it all---that is IF he even wants to end it! ;)  :TongueOutSmiley: :suspect: heh heh heh :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

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Other Theories / Re: Michael's second grave. What does it mean?
« on: July 22, 2014, 03:19:14 PM »
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It got a mention or two in the early days. Here is one example from the archives on a thread about Liz Taylor and where she was buried. Sorry I don't have time to hunt out more at present.
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Scroll down the page for the picture.

Yeah! This picture is the one with the Halloween garland, too. Thank you for finding it, RK,  :icon_e_biggrin: that's it!

@Curls, wow, I didn't imagine all of this would still be out there! I think I saw just a quick piece on the nightly news. Good sleuthing, Curls!  :beerchug:

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References & Similarities / Re: A comeback?
« on: July 22, 2014, 02:39:57 PM »
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LOL, don't tell her off Thriller - there's more life in that post than there has been in ages in the whole of the rest of the forum!!  Well done Its Her - I'm not feeling unbridled enthusiasm, but I heartily applaud yours!  :th_bravo:

That Bravo emoticon is the correct one to be used here when it comes to @It's Her post, you are so right and her post has been a brilliant one, I think she has understood the real essence of Michael's hoax, so with this I mean that you all guys have to be patient because we will see MJ again and will shock the world as it's his agenda, believe me  :beerchug:
Hi Curls  :bearhug: Hi Sweet  :bearhug: Thank you so much. Aaaawwwww, you both are SO generous with your kindness!! Such tangible LOVE!

Hi Thriller :) To answer your burning  ;D question...it is just be-cause I am HAPPY. (on purpose!! :icon_mrgreen:) :icon_bounce: :icon_e_biggrin: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

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Other Theories / Re: Michael's second grave. What does it mean?
« on: July 22, 2014, 12:13:28 AM »
It's not really a grave; "someone" (who could that be, eh? ha ha )historically minded, possibly formerly affiliated with Motown wanted a memorial nearby where it started (with Motown). The sunflowers and especially the Halloween garland is a  ;) whimsical touch on the tombstone, with the jacko-lanterns and ghosts...but apparently two caskets below are filled with tokens of love, left by fans in Michigan at the old Motown address property, which no one knew what to do with. Remember hearing about those? I thought they were donated to some children, but maybe just the ones which were stuffed animals. There were LOTS. Why they only buried two coffins of them is, I think, purposefully intriguing. I can think of a couple of songs' lyrics about 'telling (someone, something) twice'.... :icon_e_surprised:  :icon_eek:

I tried to copy a photo of the stone and inscription (Maybe someone else can), but it crashed on me and I can't reload it! Everybody looking at once, there?   :affraid:  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

Rosa Parks is interred there, btw. 

Also interesting that the cemetery is across from the old FAIR GROUNDS...hmmm WHAT could that mean?????? I can't speak for the Hoax community. What are YOU thinking it means? More?

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References & Similarities / Re: A comeback?
« on: July 21, 2014, 02:14:37 PM »
Well, ANYthing is possible. It only takes ONE person to believe something will, and HE obviously believes it, or else he wouldn't have gone to the time and expense to develop such an elaborate HOAX, driven by thoughtfully PLACED, connected clues in his very art! Michael Jackson is a MARVEL of intrigue and illusion. ;) Nope, I suspect we are not reading ENOUGH into his art!! [:icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:] Or, seeing it, second guessing what we found, because it is MORE clever than we ever imagined. HE did not do all this just to fade away.

I DO think that the word "comeback" is, maybe, misleading. He's NEVER been a "hasbeen", so he doesn't need to come back (anyway, didn't we decide that  :icon_twisted: he IS "Back" (that Back character??). And I know he is brooding :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red over his HOAX project, like a mother hen over (his) "chicks"  :thjajaja121: , so, count on it---he is not gone, needing to "come back". He is purposefully LURKING, to POUNCE like a big BAD panther, when the time is right, and that will be when he is done with his more GRAVE, pressing, long overdo matters---I  think---concerning The real Truth. The rest of the story. My GOSH, the play on words is a trip, itself. I love this!

I think he is MORPHING his influence into something else, and BEING the change he wants to see, leading by direction or "Back"ing, collaborating in other, more...scholarly arenas. We have to know one thing: he is the most methodically patient man on the planet! He's up to more than a giggle at the end, after all. It is already worth it on so many levels.  :smiley_abuv: This may sound weird, but I feel  almost like... :icon_e_surprised: he 's (very cleverly :th_bravo: ) :-*tucked us all in-to a HOAX coach, for safekeeping, all together ---so we can kinda "keep our coals in the hearth", not losing hopes---while he does this, and he WILL be "Back" (or, "Alive evermore"), as he said. And I believe that he will  :icon_cool: somehow make BeLIEvers out of ALL his gurls, too, before he ANNOUNCES his presence somewhere public again. ENOUGH of this feuding over whether he is TO BE or NOT!!!!! He just already IS.  :bearhug: :woohoo2:   :TongueOutSmiley:

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Conspiracy Theories / Re: Humanity's "Inheritance" Being Released
« on: April 25, 2014, 07:44:06 PM »
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I just came across this video  :icon_e_surprised: and thought I would share.

Could this be what Michael has been trying to tell us?

Sorry if I didn't post in the right section.

I  think it would be better if we ask directly The Source: John Fitzgerald Kennedy, commonly known as "Jack" or by his initials JFK  :icon_geek: :



Now I have to go take a nap,cause it's late and I'm so,so tired  :errrr: ......so who wants to read me a betime story  :icon_question:  :D?



 :oToBeorNotToBe: Are you talking about Junior, Senior or Baby Patrick?????? :affraid: Don't tell me  :affraid: you think they are ALL alive? :icon_eek: It does make more sense that they made the baby "disappear" first...and it WAS very strange that Jackie went to Texas with JFK that day, to play her part...then going to live very securely with someone who COULD hide away her fake dead husband.........and then Junior disappearing (too conveniently)  with his wife and, (whadyaknow! :icon_e_surprised:) her sister, too.... and I do believe it is more likely to be a faked death when, (coincidentally, hmmm...) the original faker's spouse (or dependent loved one) ends up (fake) dead, TOO...but, this is too many faked deaths for even the King of Illusion to pull out of his bag of tricks, and such a thing would make MJ a supporting player, at about age SEVEN, in what we all beLIEved was HIS Hoax....

So, on topic, what are you REALLY trying to say, ToBe?  :confused:

P.S. That's not Jack with Jackie. Stop :icon_exclaim:  :icon_lol: 

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Why do I think MJ will come back?  Because.  ;D :penguin:

In the words of two,  :D  identical lines from two scenes in an  :D Immortal,  favorite movie: "Because he MUST."  The movie is Blast From The Past. Interestingly, in the one scene the dad is explaining to his little boy, who has never seen a "game", why in baseball, a "player" on base has to run when his team makes a hit.  In the other scene, the boy is grown and actually "Watching" a softball game, when he gets it.  He actually exclaims (as many WILL,   :woohoo2:  about this :icon_e_surprised: Hoax):

                 " I get it!    I finally get it! You have
                 to see it to understand it!"    :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: 

Eerie.  :icon_neutral: 

Eh  :icon_redface:---prob'ly no connection at all...

But, he REALLY, seriously, must :icon_exclaim:

I'm not being silly. If MJ doesn't come back, at least to show his face and OWN it (because it doesn't matter what ya know---it's what you can PROVE  :icon_geek:  ), then it means that he doesn't care if he drops the ball and--- lays an egg on the World  :-[ stage   :affraid: during his Greatest Show on Earth, OR, it means some one or thing, more powerful  :icon_e_surprised:  than he, has prevented it, and ALL the crap we feared about his last days has, :icon_pale: gasp, come true.  :'(  Then, there is that his "come back" may mean something else than a return to Life As We Know It. But whatever, SOMEbody better come back and splain things, even if it is not the King of Pop, but only the guy who created him. He would have a captive audience, whether "he" "comes back" or not...
 
OR, it could happen---that key  :icon_albino: people  :elvis-1405:  who were helping him  :icon_twisted: steer it till the end   :moonwalk_: maybe have REALLY died  :icon_eek:, and he (the poor  :smiley_abuv: :icon_cry: shrinking violet :confused: :icon_e_confused: ) just can't do it by himself... (  :icon_arrow: as he ♪said♪ once).  :-\   



Baaahaha :icon_exclaim:   :TongueOutSmiley:   hahahaha  :icon_lol:  Don't beLIEve it!       


No worries! 8)

I think the only one preventing him from coming back is that ;) frightful puppet Master, cranking out more Hoax. Perhaps he's addicted to Hoaxing, now, and requires an intervention! Bad, Bad,   :michael_jackson-1135: Puppetmaster. :thjajaja121:

Or, seriously, maybe coming back before he's too old to cause a stir is more than he wants to involve his family in, any more, while the kids are still young. Maybe he WANTS nothing more than a respectful nod across the room from his geriatric fan base, 25 more years from now! And we don't REALLY know what costs he is weighing each new day. Things may have come into play with teenagers, which he had not realized years ago. If it really is "all for love", you know it is family which must come first. No contest.

But I really think he will "come back" because I believe he is doing things he set out to do, very purposefully, behind the scenes, with this Hoax, and there is no reason to think he won't reappear after this job is completed---maybe any day! If we hadn't seen or heard a peep about him, or anything which called him to mind at all in five years, I would have my doubts, but he has not lazily been hiding out, retired on some lonely beach, somewhere; there is always something, close to his heart in the works, which, idk HOW, feels to me (and others) as if he is involved somehow, even at the helm of it. I think he has just gone "underground" for a while, to make some change he was always singing about, and eventually, the greatest entertainer who ever lived WILL return for his lifetime achievement award, and some grandkids (which are even more fun than kids, I hear)! :bearhug:

 

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