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A summary from inside the court 4/1/11QuoteCOURT – DAY 104/01/11Judge :- Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael PastorProsecutor: Assistant Deputy D.A. David WalgrenDefence: Ed ChernoffFamily attending:- Katherine JacksonLaToya JacksonJackie JacksonWitnesses called:-Kenny Ortega (Producer/Director – This Is It)Michael Amir( Michael’s Bodyguards)Faheen Muhammed (Michael’s Bodyguard)Court convened at 9am.Reports have Murray as usual been ‘shepharded’ in through the back door and arriving in court looking remarkably relaxed – as he continued to be throughout the whole proceedings.Fans remained outside behaved in a respectful and dignified manner as the family filed in.Deputy District Attorney, David Walgren said he will rely on Murray's statements to police, as well as text messages, phone records and expert testimony to show the doctor should stand trial.He said evidence will show Murray waited at least 21 minutes to call 911 and ordered a bodyguard to help him clean up evidence before summoning help. In the most favorable scenario, Walgren said, Murray waited at least nine minutes before calling paramedics.He faulted the doctor in opening statements for performing CPR on Jackson with one hand on his bed, rather than a hard surface as is generally required.He also stated that “ fabulous" rehearsal two days before his death and was set to go to London in a few days.”Walgren also plans to call several experts whom he said would testify, "there are a number of actions displayed by Dr. Murray that show an extreme deviation from the standard of care."The prosecutor also said he would call a bodyguard who would testify that Murray ordered him to collect items from Jackson's bedroomThe first witness the prosecution called was "This Is It" producer/director Kenny OrtegaKENNY ORTEGAChoreographer Kenny Ortega testified that he was summoned to Jackson’s home a day after letting the superstar skip rehearsal because he seemed sick.Dr. Conrad Murray and others suggested Jackson should not have been sent home because he was physically and emotionally fine,Ortega testified, adding he was told not to try to be Jackson's doctor or psychiatrist.Later in the hearing, Ortega testified that Jackson had gone home early from rehearsals on June 19."He didn't look well at all," Ortega testified. "Michael was chilled and soft-spoken. ... He wasn't in the kind of condition to be at rehearsal."Ortega also said Jackson appeared lost."It was scary. I couldn't put my finger on it," Ortega said. "I said, 'Michael, is this the best place for you to be or do you want to go home and be with your family?' He said, 'Would you be OK with that?' I said, 'OK,' and he left." I'd say Ortega asked Michael literally: do you choose for the concerts or do you choose for your family? Michael chose for his family and Kenny supports himThe next morning, Ortega said, he was called to Jackson's home, where he was confronted by Murray, Jackson, the star's manager Frank DiLeo, and Randy Phillips, head of AEG, the company producing Jackson's "This is It" comeback tour."It quickly became clear that the meeting was about me," Ortega said. "Dr. Murray was upset that I had sent Michael home the night before and didn't allow him to rehearse." Here we (public) obviously must be confirmed that Murray is hired by AEG. Ohh :roll: this sounds so much like a theater play Ortega, who later directed the Jackson concert film "This Is It" based on rehearsal footage, said the pop star was in good spirits throughout most of the rehearsals and was excited about the progress being made in preparation for the London shows.He recalled his last conversation with Jackson."Michael said, 'I know you love me and care about me. You don't have to worry about me. I'm fine,' and he gave me a big hug," Ortega said. Again a confirmation that Kenny really cares and that he's on the good side and that he knows about the hoax plansOn cross-examination, defense attorney Ed Chernoff asked Ortega if he had ever seen anyone having withdrawals from drugs, and the witness said he had not.MICHAEL AMIR WILLIAMSAnother witness, Jackson's personal assistant Michael Amir Williams, described Murray calling him on the day the superstar died and frantically asking him to get help from bodyguards for Jackson, who was in a bedroomWilliams stated he received a frantic voicemail from Murray at 12:13 PM on June 25, 2009. Williams said Murray's VM said, "Where are you? Get here right away, hurry." Murray told him the singer had a "bad reaction" and that immediate help was needed, but didn't ask him to call 911, Williams said.Williams says he then called Alberto Alvarez, MJ's security guard, and asked Alvarez to walk to the front door. Williams says he heard Murray's voice in the background, then Alvarez hung up Williams added that staff were never allowed upstairs.Williams described the chaotic scene at the mansion and hospital and recalled the heartbreaking moment when DiLeo told Jackson’s children their father was dead. Williams said he and Murray and everyone else were crying. He also added that Murray added to the confusion by immediately contradicting Dileo.He went on to say that at one point just after Michael had been pronounced dead, Murray insisted to Williams that he was going to go back to the house to get some ‘cream’ that “Michael wouldn’t want people to see”. Williams immediately contacted staff at the house to ‘lock it down’. Also whilst chaos reigned at the hospital the Murray was requesting Williams to get him food!FAHEEN MUHAMMEDOne of Michael’s other bodyguards, said he and and guard Alberto Alvarez saw Murray crouched next to Jackson's bed "in a panicked state asking, 'Does anyone know CPR?'" Really, he should know, but it's possible because he is a specialist and not a first aid practising doctor and is not used to do CPR. Still it's weird at the least. "I looked at Alberto because we knew Dr. Murray was a heart surgeon, so we were shocked," Muhammed saidWhen defense lawyer Ed Chernoff asked if perhaps Murray was only asking for help because he was tired, Muhammed said "The way that he asked it is as if he didn't know CPR."Jackson appeared to be dead at that time, with his "eyes open and his mouth open, just laying there,"Prosecutor David Walgren earlier said that Murray used "ineffectual CPR with one hand while the patient was prone on a soft bed." Two hands with the patient prone on a hard surface is the proper method, he said. According to Williams statement in the Popeater article: "...that Dr. Conrad Murray stopped CPR on the singer in order to hide vials of Propofol, the powerful sedative." Now, I read nothing about Murray himself trying to hide stuff while practising CPR, during this prelim, or am I wrong? Muhammed, the third witness on the opening day of the hearing, said he never saw Murray performing CPR on Jackson before paramedics arrived and carried him to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center.Jackson's two oldest children, Prince and Paris, were at their father's bedroom door as the drama unfolded just after noon on June 25, 2009, Muhammed said."Paris was on the floor on her hands and knees and she was just crying," he said.The children would learn two hours later that their father had died when Dr. Murray and Jackson manager Frank Dileo talked to them in a hospital room.The session ended at approx 16.30pm. To be reconvened on 5/1/11 at 09.30amTravis Payne was also present.
COURT – DAY 104/01/11Judge :- Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael PastorProsecutor: Assistant Deputy D.A. David WalgrenDefence: Ed ChernoffFamily attending:- Katherine JacksonLaToya JacksonJackie JacksonWitnesses called:-Kenny Ortega (Producer/Director – This Is It)Michael Amir( Michael’s Bodyguards)Faheen Muhammed (Michael’s Bodyguard)Court convened at 9am.Reports have Murray as usual been ‘shepharded’ in through the back door and arriving in court looking remarkably relaxed – as he continued to be throughout the whole proceedings.Fans remained outside behaved in a respectful and dignified manner as the family filed in.Deputy District Attorney, David Walgren said he will rely on Murray's statements to police, as well as text messages, phone records and expert testimony to show the doctor should stand trial.He said evidence will show Murray waited at least 21 minutes to call 911 and ordered a bodyguard to help him clean up evidence before summoning help. In the most favorable scenario, Walgren said, Murray waited at least nine minutes before calling paramedics.He faulted the doctor in opening statements for performing CPR on Jackson with one hand on his bed, rather than a hard surface as is generally required.He also stated that “ fabulous" rehearsal two days before his death and was set to go to London in a few days.”Walgren also plans to call several experts whom he said would testify, "there are a number of actions displayed by Dr. Murray that show an extreme deviation from the standard of care."The prosecutor also said he would call a bodyguard who would testify that Murray ordered him to collect items from Jackson's bedroomThe first witness the prosecution called was "This Is It" producer/director Kenny OrtegaKENNY ORTEGAChoreographer Kenny Ortega testified that he was summoned to Jackson’s home a day after letting the superstar skip rehearsal because he seemed sick.Dr. Conrad Murray and others suggested Jackson should not have been sent home because he was physically and emotionally fine,Ortega testified, adding he was told not to try to be Jackson's doctor or psychiatrist.Later in the hearing, Ortega testified that Jackson had gone home early from rehearsals on June 19."He didn't look well at all," Ortega testified. "Michael was chilled and soft-spoken. ... He wasn't in the kind of condition to be at rehearsal."Ortega also said Jackson appeared lost."It was scary. I couldn't put my finger on it," Ortega said. "I said, 'Michael, is this the best place for you to be or do you want to go home and be with your family?' He said, 'Would you be OK with that?' I said, 'OK,' and he left." I'd say Ortega asked Michael literally: do you choose for the concerts or do you choose for your family? Michael chose for his family and Kenny supports himThe next morning, Ortega said, he was called to Jackson's home, where he was confronted by Murray, Jackson, the star's manager Frank DiLeo, and Randy Phillips, head of AEG, the company producing Jackson's "This is It" comeback tour."It quickly became clear that the meeting was about me," Ortega said. "Dr. Murray was upset that I had sent Michael home the night before and didn't allow him to rehearse." Here we (public) obviously must be confirmed that Murray is hired by AEG. Ohh :roll: this sounds so much like a theater play Ortega, who later directed the Jackson concert film "This Is It" based on rehearsal footage, said the pop star was in good spirits throughout most of the rehearsals and was excited about the progress being made in preparation for the London shows.He recalled his last conversation with Jackson."Michael said, 'I know you love me and care about me. You don't have to worry about me. I'm fine,' and he gave me a big hug," Ortega said. Again a confirmation that Kenny really cares and that he's on the good side and that he knows about the hoax plansOn cross-examination, defense attorney Ed Chernoff asked Ortega if he had ever seen anyone having withdrawals from drugs, and the witness said he had not.MICHAEL AMIR WILLIAMSAnother witness, Jackson's personal assistant Michael Amir Williams, described Murray calling him on the day the superstar died and frantically asking him to get help from bodyguards for Jackson, who was in a bedroomWilliams stated he received a frantic voicemail from Murray at 12:13 PM on June 25, 2009. Williams said Murray's VM said, "Where are you? Get here right away, hurry." Murray told him the singer had a "bad reaction" and that immediate help was needed, but didn't ask him to call 911, Williams said.Williams says he then called Alberto Alvarez, MJ's security guard, and asked Alvarez to walk to the front door. Williams says he heard Murray's voice in the background, then Alvarez hung up Williams added that staff were never allowed upstairs.Williams described the chaotic scene at the mansion and hospital and recalled the heartbreaking moment when DiLeo told Jackson’s children their father was dead. Williams said he and Murray and everyone else were crying. He also added that Murray added to the confusion by immediately contradicting Dileo.He went on to say that at one point just after Michael had been pronounced dead, Murray insisted to Williams that he was going to go back to the house to get some ‘cream’ that “Michael wouldn’t want people to see”. Williams immediately contacted staff at the house to ‘lock it down’. Also whilst chaos reigned at the hospital the Murray was requesting Williams to get him food!FAHEEN MUHAMMEDOne of Michael’s other bodyguards, said he and and guard Alberto Alvarez saw Murray crouched next to Jackson's bed "in a panicked state asking, 'Does anyone know CPR?'" Really, he should know, but it's possible because he is a specialist and not a first aid practising doctor and is not used to do CPR. Still it's weird at the least. "I looked at Alberto because we knew Dr. Murray was a heart surgeon, so we were shocked," Muhammed saidWhen defense lawyer Ed Chernoff asked if perhaps Murray was only asking for help because he was tired, Muhammed said "The way that he asked it is as if he didn't know CPR."Jackson appeared to be dead at that time, with his "eyes open and his mouth open, just laying there,"Prosecutor David Walgren earlier said that Murray used "ineffectual CPR with one hand while the patient was prone on a soft bed." Two hands with the patient prone on a hard surface is the proper method, he said. According to Williams statement in the Popeater article: "...that Dr. Conrad Murray stopped CPR on the singer in order to hide vials of Propofol, the powerful sedative." Now, I read nothing about Murray himself trying to hide stuff while practising CPR, during this prelim, or am I wrong? Muhammed, the third witness on the opening day of the hearing, said he never saw Murray performing CPR on Jackson before paramedics arrived and carried him to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center.Jackson's two oldest children, Prince and Paris, were at their father's bedroom door as the drama unfolded just after noon on June 25, 2009, Muhammed said."Paris was on the floor on her hands and knees and she was just crying," he said.The children would learn two hours later that their father had died when Dr. Murray and Jackson manager Frank Dileo talked to them in a hospital room.The session ended at approx 16.30pm. To be reconvened on 5/1/11 at 09.30amTravis Payne was also present.
]that Dr. Conrad Murray stopped CPR on the singer in order to hide vials of Propofol, the powerful sedative
Jackson wanted to know if his initial story was an attempt to cover up crucial evidence to shield Murray.
"When he started changing his stories, the estate decided to check him out," the family friend tells us. "He not only had a DUI, there was a domestic violence dispute on his record. Someone had filed a domestic complaint against Alvarez, and he also had a DUI arrest."
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "Sinderella"How can a prelim trial that was expected to last 2/3 weeks yesterday,have decided it is going to a full trial today...??That is impossible.Who said that? :? It was always going to last about 2weeks with the amount of people needing to go on the stand,then yesterday it was said it might be 3,and mumof3 just said in a comment she thinks they just said it will go to full trialHow?when barely anyone has got up to speak yet...it's only day 3@forst haha....same time!keep trying doc....and order me a subway marinara while your there...extra cheese,Italian wholewheat..no pickle...
Quote from: "Sinderella"How can a prelim trial that was expected to last 2/3 weeks yesterday,have decided it is going to a full trial today...??That is impossible.Who said that? :?
How can a prelim trial that was expected to last 2/3 weeks yesterday,have decided it is going to a full trial today...??That is impossible.
I looked up "preliminary hearing" online and found out that a preliminary hearing is to find out whether there is enough probable cause to pursue sentencing.
According to my understanding of what I've read so far, Dr. Murray is not necessarily defintely guilty of harming or killing Michael. Michael is still alive. Also, from my previous employment by a lawyer and my own appearances in court, I know that both Plaintiff and Defendant haev up to 120 days to pursue and provide evidence to prove what they are trying to prove. This means that there could be another hearing on or before May 4, 2011.
Also, the behavior exhibited by Prince and Paris outside of the courtroom may have just been a part of the act. Of course, the children may also have been upset at having to be used by Dr. Murray to prove his innocence. I will say more later when I have more time. I hope this helps.
******update MJ´s medical records in Joe Jackson´s lawsuit,states,the intraaortic ballon pump was inserted at 2.05pm, AFTER they detected heartbeat OUCH-also sort of impossible too??yet Dr. Cooper said she didn´t recognize a heartbeat at the time, but it was written down in the medical records she did...and she signed them anyway.Also,What happened to no one being in the houseit was packed lmaoThe maid,Dr,kids,Alvarez,Kai,securityTable for 7+sec detail The security tapes that the police downloaded were of the gates and the front entrance of the house ONLY and nothing from inside the home.They are still missing...no one bothered to find out where they went..just like they never asked Murray where he was taking bags of Michael's posessions too...Pictures have just been shown to the court of his bedroom/scene,no body was pictured in them(go figure) and the markers which showed where the body was found by Murray...ARE ON THE FLOOR NOT THE BED.I just watched a video of Kai on LKL and i'm sorry...but if Michael Jackson is dying upstairs,y'all dont get in a circle in the den and pray you fucking move your ass up those stairs,ALLOWED or not-rules don't apply when your boss has no heartbeat love...and you do something,anything to help.LK"did you see them remove the body?" K"No,they asked us to leave the hall at 1...1.30,security asked us to leave"Pretty big gap that whole 30mins floating around somewhereWhy was Dr murray running downstairs to talk to prince shouldn't he of been non stop ressus on Michael...I mean ffs man...the king of music is dying on the bed....er...floor...er..bed..no floor!and your running away?She never heard the 911 callNo one spoke to her and told her he was going to the hospital..so nothing to suggest her boss was gone and she was unemployed?charming...and then to top it off.....SHE LEFT WORKING THERE IN MAY 2009 what on earth....why was she back in June?hmmmmmmmmmmm??never knew that...Give me strength.
Subornation of Perjury Under California Penal Code 127 PCCalifornia law recognizes another type of perjury -- subornation of perjury under Penal Code 127 PC. If you willfully convince or persuade someone else to commit perjury.and they do, in fact, commit perjury.you may be convicted of this offense.
Penalties, Punishment, and Sentencing for Perjury in CaliforniaPerjury under Penal Code 118 PC is a felony. If convicted, you face two, three, or four years in the California State Prison. Depending on the circumstances, you may additionally be sentenced to* formal probation,* fines,* restitution (especially if the conduct involved providing false information in connection with an application for welfare aid -- also known as "welfare fraud"), and* community service or labor.
