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Oh I had a dream last night that Oprah basically said she was a believer in the hoax. :lol:
when is the interview supposed to have been taken, last week?shouldn't the nature outside look more like autumn with coloured leaves?don't know about the timing of the seasonal changes in England, but in Germany autumn is in full process.btw. didn't Michael mention that he likes how the leaves change their colours in TII?[attachment=1:206oofaw]autumn leaves.jpg[/attachment:206oofaw][attachment=0:206oofaw]nature background.jpg[/attachment:206oofaw]
Quote from: "thevoice"You're right Oprah didnt back Obama or use her influence within and outside the black commnunity to help, finance and support the emergence of one of the greatest leaders of our time, rallying incredible amount of young and first time voters who made the difference....she stayed home hating on MJ i guess.I am a little shock at the hate towards Oprah. I can understand people might dislike her but hate? A certain Sneddon had the very same feeling once...Where's the L.O.V.E in all this?I don't think she is projecting the blame on her past as an abuse survivor on MJ specifically, I think she'll always be suspiscous of any person in Mike's predicament. Whatever she might say. But If they dont want to deal with her, why go to her?"I am a little shock at the hate towards Oprah. I can understand people might dislike her but hate? A certain Sneddon had the very same feeling once...Where's the L.O.V.E in all this?"Um,First I never used the word Hate towards O. I am highly dissappointed in her behaviour towards Michael and the fact that she continues to make inuendos towards hinting at the possibility of his guilt to influence public perception. That's what "Media Mind Control" is all about. Influencing public opinion and perception.As you realize she is a power mogul with her show and Millions of impressionable minds are being influenced to continue to think Michael was a molester despite the fact he was found NOT Guilty In a court of law.Even going as far as to ask Lisa about the accusations and does she think he was guilty?...and Lisa's answer was to leave an impression in people's minds she may very well think he's guilty.Lisa answered: "Honestly I have know way of knowing if he did, I wasn't there" something like that.Instead she should of said: "No doubt in my mind he was/is INNOCENT and found NOT GUILTY!" If she truly wanted to set that record straight.Do not compare me to Snake Sneddon,Obama is what?Might I suggest you read up on Obama and his puppeteers.The forum is full of good info.As for your last question...Why shouldn't Mike or anyone else for that matter use O's show as a medium and a stage to get your message out to her Millions of viewers.Peace
You're right Oprah didnt back Obama or use her influence within and outside the black commnunity to help, finance and support the emergence of one of the greatest leaders of our time, rallying incredible amount of young and first time voters who made the difference....she stayed home hating on MJ i guess.I am a little shock at the hate towards Oprah. I can understand people might dislike her but hate? A certain Sneddon had the very same feeling once...Where's the L.O.V.E in all this?I don't think she is projecting the blame on her past as an abuse survivor on MJ specifically, I think she'll always be suspiscous of any person in Mike's predicament. Whatever she might say. But If they dont want to deal with her, why go to her?
Quote from: "shelby61"It is quite possible that this was taped awhile back. We may want to check out to see recent pictures of Oprah and LMP (for instance: is their hair the same and the weight the same). Perhaps this is why there is no apology from Oprah. We know that Oprah yo yo's on her weight. Of course LMP has kept pretty quiet and out of the limelight since MJ's "death" so it may be hard to find recent pics of her....just a thought I was thinking that this was taped a while back as well. LMP looks really pale, haggard, and heavier....just like "normal" people look right after they have given birth. (I know I looked like crap for quite awhile after I had my son.) I am wondering if this interview happened closer to after the birth of her twins? But the twins were born Oct. '08.....so I'm not sure. It was what crossed my mind as soon as I saw her. Something is definitely fishy about this whole interview though......
It is quite possible that this was taped awhile back. We may want to check out to see recent pictures of Oprah and LMP (for instance: is their hair the same and the weight the same). Perhaps this is why there is no apology from Oprah. We know that Oprah yo yo's on her weight. Of course LMP has kept pretty quiet and out of the limelight since MJ's "death" so it may be hard to find recent pics of her....just a thought
Quote from: "sandythyme"Just a couple of things I want to throw out there about the interview. I thought Lisa was respectful and sincere. I noticed the non eye contact with Oprah, that could just mean she is shy and doesn't like to be "out there", center of attention as she mentioned. I liked the fact that she showed Michael in a positive light. He had his moments, but she also had her moments. It was important that Lisa admitted her mistakes. Why it took this long to understand him.....Well at least it happened. The proposal - as stated we heard it was done over the phone. So now he pulls out a 10 carat diamond AND I THINK HE GOT DOWN ON HIS KNEES to propose as well. Sorry, but I think I would remember if a man got down on his knees to propose marriage to me. Now maybe because she has been married a few times....I don't know. I just know I would remember. Finally the last conversation that they had in 2005, Michael said he was afraid someone was going to murder him for his catalog and estate. Lisa said he gave her names, but she wouldn't mention them. Why would a mother of four, admit on national television that she knows the names of the people that Michael suspected would try to kill him? That's crazy, that would be putting Lisa and her family in danger. My thoughts on the interview, I am glad it happened. It was done to clear the air. But some comments just didn't make sense to me. Take care, Love to All.I agree with you. You don't just forget how someone proposes, I thought that was strange as well. And the thing about someone wanting to murder Michael, that statement was VERY telling in my opinion. It's almost as if there were certain things she was 'supposed to' get in the interview, like certain phrases or certain talking points that "someone" instructed her to do (he 'manipulated' her, but she 'understands it now'). And the catalog/estate/murder comment was basically confirming to us that he HAD REASON TO FAKE HIS DEATH. She always confirms that she loves him, he didn't molest children, and that it took her awhile to wrap her mind around him being gone...aka...the hoax.
Just a couple of things I want to throw out there about the interview. I thought Lisa was respectful and sincere. I noticed the non eye contact with Oprah, that could just mean she is shy and doesn't like to be "out there", center of attention as she mentioned. I liked the fact that she showed Michael in a positive light. He had his moments, but she also had her moments. It was important that Lisa admitted her mistakes. Why it took this long to understand him.....Well at least it happened. The proposal - as stated we heard it was done over the phone. So now he pulls out a 10 carat diamond AND I THINK HE GOT DOWN ON HIS KNEES to propose as well. Sorry, but I think I would remember if a man got down on his knees to propose marriage to me. Now maybe because she has been married a few times....I don't know. I just know I would remember. Finally the last conversation that they had in 2005, Michael said he was afraid someone was going to murder him for his catalog and estate. Lisa said he gave her names, but she wouldn't mention them. Why would a mother of four, admit on national television that she knows the names of the people that Michael suspected would try to kill him? That's crazy, that would be putting Lisa and her family in danger. My thoughts on the interview, I am glad it happened. It was done to clear the air. But some comments just didn't make sense to me. Take care, Love to All.
I'm the shyest person in the world. I said to her- we were on the phone- 'If I asked you to marry me, would you? She said, 'Of course'! Then there was silence. I said 'Excuse me, I've got to go the bathroom." he laughed sheepishly. "So I came back. But I didn't quite know what to say." Following the telephone proposal and acceptance, the engaged couple promptly met at Neverland, where the romance started."
Quote from: "looking4truth"Oh I had a dream last night that Oprah basically said she was a believer in the hoax. :lol:Looking4 truth check out the visions from michael forum. I posted my dream about Oprah and Michael there!
Quote from: "karen924"Quote from: "looking4truth"Oh I had a dream last night that Oprah basically said she was a believer in the hoax. :lol:Looking4 truth check out the visions from michael forum. I posted my dream about Oprah and Michael there!Can you post just the actual dream here, because as you know that thread is a Quote from: "karen924"Quote from: "looking4truth"Oh I had a dream last night that Oprah basically said she was a believer in the hoax. :lol:Looking4 truth check out the visions from michael forum. I posted my dream about Oprah and Michael there!lo-o-o-ng thread, hard to wade through :lol: . Thanks!Could you post the actual dream here, since as you know that thread is very lo-o-o-ng :lol: . Like finding a needle in a haystack! Thanks!
Quote from: "anewfan"Quote from: "shelby61"It is quite possible that this was taped awhile back. We may want to check out to see recent pictures of Oprah and LMP (for instance: is their hair the same and the weight the same). Perhaps this is why there is no apology from Oprah. We know that Oprah yo yo's on her weight. Of course LMP has kept pretty quiet and out of the limelight since MJ's "death" so it may be hard to find recent pics of her....just a thought I was thinking that this was taped a while back as well. LMP looks really pale, haggard, and heavier....just like "normal" people look right after they have given birth. (I know I looked like crap for quite awhile after I had my son.) I am wondering if this interview happened closer to after the birth of her twins? But the twins were born Oct. '08.....so I'm not sure. It was what crossed my mind as soon as I saw her. Something is definitely fishy about this whole interview though......I thought the entire time, that woman is pregnant...or she'd just had a baby. Even the way she held her arms about her middle and the camo, same colored outfit was designed to disguise, as everyone female knows...
Quote from: "friendlikeme81"when is the interview supposed to have been taken, last week?shouldn't the nature outside look more like autumn with coloured leaves?don't know about the timing of the seasonal changes in England, but in Germany autumn is in full process.btw. didn't Michael mention that he likes how the leaves change their colours in TII?[attachment=1:2snkmqbx]autumn leaves.jpg[/attachment:2snkmqbx][attachment=0:2snkmqbx]nature background.jpg[/attachment:2snkmqbx]That is really strange..... Here the fall is in its full beauty and you see only brown-copper colours all around.What we can see there is like a spring in full bloom.
when is the interview supposed to have been taken, last week?shouldn't the nature outside look more like autumn with coloured leaves?don't know about the timing of the seasonal changes in England, but in Germany autumn is in full process.btw. didn't Michael mention that he likes how the leaves change their colours in TII?[attachment=1:2snkmqbx]autumn leaves.jpg[/attachment:2snkmqbx][attachment=0:2snkmqbx]nature background.jpg[/attachment:2snkmqbx]
