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[Sinderella]

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I really think that has to do with the picture. And what is wrong with her weight? She lost a lot already, and she carried twins! One of my friends had twins and she never lost the extra weight.

I never said there was anything wrong with her weight there.
That photo was put in my original post..not for her but for the scene behind her to pin point was it filmed when they say it was.
The comparison was done for SM who posted after me about her looking different.

[paula-c]

I do not know England, in the following link they can look at some autumn photo.

http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/202445617vaEyxY

[~Souza~]

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I really think that has to do with the picture. And what is wrong with her weight? She lost a lot already, and she carried twins! One of my friends had twins and she never lost the extra weight.

I never said there was anything wrong with her weight there.
That photo was put in my original post..not for her but for the scene behind her to pin point was it filmed when they say it was.
The comparison was done for SM who posted after me about her looking different.

I was only replying to you about the photo, the weight thing was in general.

[finfin]

Points I thought were strange after looking again at the videos:
1.  LMP did not once say Michael had "died", "passed away", or was "dead" - Oprah did.
2.  It was as though the Elvis and MJ parallels were emphasised and were put "out there"
3.  I wonder what LMP meant by Michael having certain injections for various things he needed, not just
for his skin.
4.  The fireplace mentioned twice - for the proposal and when Michael talked about Elvis's mode of death

Being from England, looking at the foliage it does seem to have been in the Summer, definitely not in the last few weeks and not in Spring

[iamhere4mj]

There have been a couple of posts suggesting that maybe Michael and Lisa are married instead of her being married to Michael Lockwood. If this is true how many of us would ever trust Michael ever again? To make it seem that Lisa is married to someone else (plus having twins) when in fact her and Michael are married would in my mind be a reason for me to stop believing in Michael. I know that each of us has a right to be married to anyone that we want to be married to but I just can't see Michael deceiving anyone like this when we are having a hard enough time with him being gone. Just my opinion.

And as far as when this show was taped, I believe Lisa and her family moved to the UK in August of this year, so that would make it summer and don't forget that Oprah said her and Lisa went on a hike that summer, maybe that was a hint on when this was filmed.

I thought overall the interview was good but as usual anything coming from Lisa when it comes to Michael makes you go hmmm sometimes. I think she's pissed because she was 'disposable' and she lost at her own game with him.

Love you Michael!

[Sinderella]

There have been a couple of posts suggesting that maybe Michael and Lisa are married instead of her being married to Michael Lockwood. If this is true how many of us would ever trust Michael ever again? To make it seem that Lisa is married to someone else (plus having twins) when in fact her and Michael are married would in my mind be a reason for me to stop believing in Michael. I know that each of us has a right to be married to anyone that we want to be married to but I just can't see Michael deceiving anyone like this when we are having a hard enough time with him being gone. Just my opinion.

And as far as when this show was taped, I believe Lisa and her family moved to the UK in August of this year, so that would make it summer and don't forget that Oprah said her and Lisa went on a hike that summer, maybe that was a hint on when this was filmed.

I thought overall the interview was good but as usual anything coming from Lisa when it comes to Michael makes you go hmmm sometimes. I think she's pissed because she was 'disposable' and she lost at her own game with him.

Love you Michael!

You talk sense.I like you.haha
To suggest they are still married is as absurd as saying he actually died in 2009.
I do question her current husband's frame of mind letting her do it in the first place,but they had kids together,just spent £8million on a new house together and seem relativley normal as a family/married couple-as normal as it can be in celebrity land.and didn't she marry Nicholas Cage after Michael?
As you have said,there is enough going on with everything else without adding more theories to it.

As for the time of year,I didn't think the UK had a summer?Just rain...LOL.

[~Souza~]

There have been a couple of posts suggesting that maybe Michael and Lisa are married instead of her being married to Michael Lockwood. If this is true how many of us would ever trust Michael ever again? To make it seem that Lisa is married to someone else (plus having twins) when in fact her and Michael are married would in my mind be a reason for me to stop believing in Michael. I know that each of us has a right to be married to anyone that we want to be married to but I just can't see Michael deceiving anyone like this when we are having a hard enough time with him being gone. Just my opinion.

Although I doubt the two are still married, even if that were true that would have been none of our business. If it was part of the hoax, it needed to be done like this. Why is it ok for him to lie about being dead, but not about being married? I don't get that. But again, I don't think they are married still, I think she really married Michael Lockwood and had his kids.

[PinkTopaz]

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I really think that has to do with the picture. And what is wrong with her weight? She lost a lot already, and she carried twins! One of my friends had twins and she never lost the extra weight.

I never said there was anything wrong with her weight there.
That photo was put in my original post..not for her but for the scene behind her to pin point was it filmed when they say it was.
The comparison was done for SM who posted after me about her looking different.

I was only replying to you about the photo, the weight thing was in general.

I was going to say that-! I saw someone else saying about her wanting to get away from "shallow" Cali (not everyone is like that, gosh!) because she wanted tp be comfortable, but she doesn't look "fat" at all to me!

[anewfan]

I just want to clarify that I didn't call LMP fat. I said she was heavier, which, if you compare these pics to those before she got pregnant with the twins, you can plainly see she is heavier. (which we all know happens most of the time after having children...especially twins) I wasn't putting her down. I was simply stating the obvious, which led me to believe that this interview took place earlier than they said it did. (Closer to when she gave birth.)

[suspicious mind]

umm  i think i was the one who brought up lisa looking thinner in one picture than in the other. it seems like some other people have been getting the heat for it. sorry guys. i did not intend anything to be a judgement on lisa. i just noticed that one picture looked different than the other. even when i look at the video again there seems to be a difference. maybe it is camera angle but it seems the difference is too much for that. idk

just for the record i am 5.1 and about 150 or so right now so i am not passing judgement on anybodies body ;)

[anewfan]

umm  i think i was the one who brought up lisa looking thinner in one picture than in the other. it seems like some other people have been getting the heat for it. sorry guys. i did not intend anything to be a judgement on lisa. i just noticed that one picture looked different than the other. even when i look at the video again there seems to be a difference. maybe it is camera angle but it seems the difference is too much for that. idk

just for the record i am 5.1 and about 150 or so right now so i am not passing judgement on anybodies body ;)

I don't think any of us meant to be judgemental. We were just pointing out discrepancies in weight in order to maybe establish a time frame. Your honesty in your measurements made me smile for some reason. I don't think any of us have perfect bodies...as long as we are healthy, then I guess that's all that matters!!

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

please look for part 3 here http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showt ... 07&page=63 I wont be here to post it, thanks

Has any one tried to post a comment on the videos?  I have tried and it comes up as an error message, or was it  because I was trying to post http://www.elvisandmj.com :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Honest Im still trying and it wont let me!  :shock:  :?

Ill keep trying.

L.O.V.E.

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

Having watch all 3 parts of the Oprah interview, dont you think it is a HUGE coincidence that when Lisa went back in to be with MJs casket when everyone else (her words)  had left because she couldnt leave him, there just "happened" to be a photographer present to capture the moment for HIStory :shock:  :shock:  :?

This is getting stranger and stranger. :roll:

[liegi]

What I thought was strange was showing the footage of the fact that Elvis' home and MJ's last dwelling were close by.  I didn't get that.

However, Elvis and MJ are linked in more ways than just be marriage.  MJ owns Elvis' catalogue.  Lately, I have been hearing a new version of "Suspicious Minds" on the radio here in Italy. I just heard in today while I was at the gym.  Then, MJ's Cirque du Soleil show comes on the heels of Elvis' show.

People involved in the entertainment business are not going to tell us what REALLY goes on. They deal in symbolism, myth-making and "escapism" (as MJ so aptly puts it).

[~Souza~]

Having watch all 3 parts of the Oprah interview, dont you think it is a HUGE coincidence that when Lisa went back in to be with MJs casket when everyone else (her words)  had left because she couldnt leave him, there just "happened" to be a photographer present to capture the moment for HIStory :shock:  :shock:  :?

This is getting stranger and stranger. :roll:

LOL, you're right. I guess the photographer couldn't leave either... :lol: