I've been following these forums (MJDH and this one) almost since the day of 25th June, trying to search for the truth about all that was happening during that day, as well as before and after that. Michael is, for me, a real humanitarian, and a messenger of truth and peace, a very rare human being, and I feel horrible when I think about what he has had to go through. He really is a great inspiration for me, and I see that we really have a lot to learn from him on the journey to a healed world. Because right now our world really seems to be in quite a bad place, and it is love and caring for other people, hope and strenght that we really need.
This time after his death or "death" has been really hard for me, to feel that you have (and later, with the possibility of the hoax, might have) lost an angel, a really wonderful human being that really would have so much to give to our world, especially now. I still do not dare to be totally sure that he's alive, but I feel that every day it just seems to become more and more likely for him to be alive. Everything just seems to be leading to that, and I'm thinking that if he really is gone, then there is really quite a plot to make us believe that he still is alive. It just doesn't seem too likely when it seems to be also his family and "friends" in on this hoax. I feel that we may actually be quite close to find out the truth. And I think that if he really has managed to fake his death, then there definately is a bigger meaning behind that all. Still, there is still the possibility of a murder for me that I can't totally put away from my mind, although I really hope that isn't the case.
What really got me to register to this forum now and post here for the first time were the "this is also it" redirections, cause they actually come very close to the things that i've been trying to study on my own practically daily for almost two years. I've been trying to search for the truth about life, and for the state of our world, and I could say that it hasn't always been very pleasant or comfortable to try to accept what is going on around us.
I know this is gonna be a long post, and I'm really sorry for that, I just hope that this might help at least someone trying to figure out what is going on in our world.. And, I'm from Finland, and English is not my native language, so I'm sorry for the mistakes..
First of all, I would like to say that I totally agree with Touched By An Angel on her view on these things, she's thinking exactly the same as I was about these things. And well, although there is the possibility that these things would not be coming from Michael, (which I think seems just become less and less likely all the time), I think these things still would be very important (I think we actually don't have too much time any more, so I feel it's essential that as many people as possible would know about these things and at least consider if there would be any chance for them to be true), but I also think that this is something that Michael probably was aware of and would have liked people to know. I feel strongly this is something Michael would do. What I'm talking about is for example this "new world order" and all kinds of things related to that that have also been brought up here many times on this forum, about which I am very happy and actually a bit suprised that there really has been this kind of rise of consciousness about these matters, and so fast.
First I would like to say that I think that Michael has actually tried to speak (and sing) and warn people about the state of the world, for example in many of his songs. (And there lies the possibility of him being murdered, I think, because if he would manage to get this message through, he would really reach billions of people.) There have probably been many posts on that also, I think. There are many songs, the lyrics of which should be paid attention to, for example the song They don't care about us as of course, that's a song with very powerful lyrics. (about racism, equality but also the government)
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”Tell me what has become of my rights
Am I invisible because you ignore me?
Your proclamation promised me free liberty, nowI'm tired of bein' the victim of shame
They're throwing me in a class with a bad name
I can't believe this is the land from which I cameYou know I do really hate to say it
The government don't wanna seeBut if Roosevelt was livin'
He wouldn't let this be, no, no”
Then there's the song great Money that's, very eye-opening, I think:
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Royal Arms” hotel sign, and a lot more),
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Actually I think that the whole album HIStory was one of Michael's most "telling" as well as a very touching album (just can't listen to it without crying at least at some points), but there is very much "clues" in many of his other albums too, including the sadly underrated Invincible, Blood On The Dance Floor, Dangerous, Bad. He really made such wonderful music and he has just touched my heart in a very special way.. : )
But, to the New World Order then, actually you can get quite a good idea about what it is if you've watched these movies in the clues 3 (Movie V for Vendetta), 4 (Movie EndGame) and also the videoclip about 911. Those things are still today dubbed just as stupid conspiracy theories, but actually if you start studying this all, it just gets harder and harder to deny it, especially when you see everything that's happening around you, all the news that are coming from all around our world every day, it's all leading to the same conclusion: That our world is going towards a one fascist world government and all the things related to that:
-Abolition of all national governments,at least stripping off their powers, abolition of patriotism, the creation of a world government
-Abolition of private property
-Abolition of inheritance
-Abolition of the family (Michael has also spoken about this, see the lovely, but heartbreaking Oxford speech (all parts):
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-Abolition of religions (and creating a one world religion), although I actually think that the great religions have been manipulated at least to some extent, they also seem to have some common origins. And religions have absolutely been used to control people. I agree a lot with Michael about these things. I actually come from quite a similar religious background than he, and have sometimes had a bit complicated relationship with religion, and I think that I'm still just trying to search for the truth about these things, and found some peace of mind because of that. Michael's thoughts about these kind of spiritual things, the life and the world can be seen for example in his book Dancing The Dream (even better in his acts, what he did for this world):
Look for example the texts "God", "Two birds", "Quantum leap", "Are you listening?", "Wings without me" and so on, the book is just so precious, here it's online
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”It's strange that God doesn't mind expressing Himself/Herself in all the
religions of the world, while people still cling to the notion that
their way is the only right way. Whatever you try to say about God,
someone will take offense, even if you say everyone's love of God is
right for them. For me the form God takes is not the most
important thing. What's most important is the essence.”
-Also population reduction, through different kind of methods, wars, famines, diseases, all kinds of chemicals (some plastics, for example, reduce the fertility),eugenics etc. also the birth control, abortions (and China's one child -policy) etc. Here are some basics about this, for example:
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Here's also quite a striking indication of the reasons for the US invasion in Afghanistan in 2002, the previous year the opium production had dropped significantly because of the (not cia -controlled parts of) Taleban,then after the invasion soared rapidly to even higher amounts of opium than earlier
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First, here's George Bush the senior and his speech of the new world order:
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Also the vatican has been infiltrated, here's an article about the pope calling for a new world order and something about the current pope
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Then there's the very important John F. Kennedy's speech in New York City April 27 1961 about secret societies and the freedom of the press,about two years before his assassination
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"If the global currency crisis unfolds, then inevitably you get an alignment of a global world government. A new global currency and a new world order, so we may be moving towards that", says Damon Vickers, chief investment officer of Nine Points Capital Partners:
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Here's Russia's president Dmitry Medvedev holding a sample coin that's described as a "united future world currency", so the one world currency already seems to be almost here
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”We are living through exceptionally difficult times: the financial crisis and its dramatic impact on employment and budgets, the climate crisis which threatens our very survival. A period of anxiety, uncertainty and lack of confidence. Yet these problems can be overcome by common efforts in and between our countries.
2009 is also the first year of global governance, with the establishment of the G20 in the middle of the financial crisis.
The climate conference in Copenhagen is another step towards the global management of our planet. Our mission is one of hope, supported by acts and action.”
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About the media that handled Michael totally mercilessly throughout the years,96% of the world's media (especially in the US, but actually everywhere, especially through the big news corporations and networks like CNN) is owned by elitistic zionists, this international elite has the total control of the media, which has had a very powerful effect on us, the ordinary people:
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Here are the protocols of the learned elders of Zion that are actually said to be false, fake, but I just can't help but to think that they are describing today's situation in our societies just a little bit too well to be just a made up and false fairy tale. Or then someone has taken these sick ideas to be a basis for his plans for world domination.. But, before the links I still want to say that this is not at all about the ordinary jewish people who are just like we all others, but about zionism.
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(Here's one suggestion for a new, alternative system, an economic democracy
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And who are behind these global plans to enslave humanity?
A group of elitists, zionists, international bankers, many of the royal families, some of the richest families of the world, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the so-called illuminati with their version of illumination(luciferianism),different secret or at least secretive organizations (for example the Bilderberg group, the Council of Foreign relations CFR, the Trilateral Commission, Skull and Bones, Freemasonry(few of them, most of them are not part of the conspiracy), and then there are the more "open" international organizations such as the United Nations, WHO, WTO (World trade organization), IMF (International Monetary Fund) etc.). What is important about these groups of people, is that they are not like us normal people, they just have a very different mindset, humanity seems to be of no value to them. And then there seem to be the hidden satanistic/luciferian agendas behind all of that. They are not just after money, they have all the money that they need already,it's about power and domination.
I actually sometimes feel quite bad for these people.. So many things have just gone wrong with their lives, and I'm just asking myself that could that have been prevented somehow.Or could some of them still feel that what they are doing might be wrong.. Maybe I'm just being naive, I don't know, it's just that I want to believe that there's something good in every one of us..
There are so many things related to this state of the world that I just can't write even a little snippet of all of it here, there are so many issues:
The wars and financers of both sides (for example the Rothschilds): (here only a mainstream view on the Rothschild family: You are not allowed to view links.
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The future and purpose of the European Union, the forthcoming North American Union (Canada, US,Mexico) (You are not allowed to view links.
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The satanic, occultic and "luciferian" ideas of the elite, also the music industry and Hollywood (also mind control in the entertainment industry). Also their heavy usage of symbolism and numerology. The luciferianism, I think, has to do with the so-called illuminati and their ideas of "illumination" (about luciferianism: You are not allowed to view links.
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Mind control;The emerging police states across the globe (you'll just have to see the news and the legislations brought up everywhere, for example the martial law in the US) (About the martial law here: You are not allowed to view links.
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The control and surveillance of ordinary people (we're all kind of like terrorism suspects, because already now all our phone calls,e-mails,internet downloads and browsing history, nowadays also all our money traffic, is being monitored by at least the NSA and their system Echelon, the existence of which was not being admitted until the year 2000 (before that it was just a conspiracy theory..), here some articles on Echelon You are not allowed to view links.
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I thought that it would be good to write also about the global warming, the crisis that we all have been warned about. The politicians are quickly moving on with their decisions on CO2 i.e. carbon dioxide taxes, which would be a huge money-making machine for the private corporations. Actually, CO2 is essential for the life on earth, and there have been serious manipulation in the official research on climate change and global warming related to the CO2 -issue, that are now coming to light. Here are some links on that:
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There's going to be the international meeting (climate conference) in Copenhagen next month concerning the new climate change treaty, meaning the solving of the "CO2 -problem".Which means the carbon taxes. Here's an article about that meeting and it's real purpose, the establishment of a new international world "government". Citing the article:
"The "scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention" that starts on page 18 contains the provision for a "government." The aim is to give a new as yet unnamed U.N. body the power to directly intervene in the financial, economic, tax and environmental affairs of all the nations that sign the Copenhagen treaty." from a Wall Street Journal article
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Then, finally, I would still want to say something about the current "swine flu" panic all across the globe. Here's a great video series (a bit long, but informative) about the issue, the swine flu and the vaccinations, that I hope that at least someone might see, cause there really seems to be evil agendas behind all of this hype. What is sure is that those big medical corporations are making a huge amount of money from this crisis, but many things actually seem to address that this is actually once again an intentionally created crisis that might have very serious implications, which I find to be quite likely. There is the possibility of a bioengineered bioweapon, either through the vaccines (that include quite a few poisonous substances) or through (maybe by these vaccines) a mutated swine flu virus, "the second wave" that have been talked about a lot.
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contaminated with a H5N1 virus, to 16 laboratories in four countries.
In February 2009, Baxter’s Austrian subsidiary in Orth an der Donau
manufactured and distributed 72 kilos of vaccine material, contaminated
with a H1N1 virus, to 16 laboratories in four countries, including
Austria, so nearly triggering a pandemic, according to The Times of India.
The contaminated vaccine material consisted of a mixture of a
seasonal H3N2 human influenza virus and the deadly H5N1 virus. By
adding a virus of the type H5N1 to an ordinary flu virus of the type
H3N2, Baxter produced a highly dangerous bioweapon. WHO supplied Baxter
with the live bird flu virus. A staff member of a subcontracted
laboratory in the Czech Republic discovered this lethal contamination,
when all animals they tested died from this vaccine.
Since Baxter
is obliged to use BSL 3 (Biosafety Level 3) precautions in its
laboratories when handling the H1N1 virus (classified as a biological
agent, BSL3 or 4 under EU regulations), such safeguards are in place as
would make accidental contamination of ordinary influenza material with
the dangerous H1N1 virus impossible.
In other words, this deadly contamination and distribution
was almost certainly due to criminal intent. Thirty-six people had to
be preventatively hospitalized in Austria and the Czech Republic
because of their exposure to this vaccine-based contamination,
underlining the danger."
What is so dangerous about the combination of the ordinary H3N2 seasonal flu and the H5N1 bird flu then; the H5N1 virus doesn't spread easily, but has a very high mortality, whereas the seasonal flu H3N2 has a low mortality but it spreads very easily from human to human. Therefore, ”while H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. ”
Jane Burgermeister's The Flu Case:
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LoginThere were actually reports at some point that Michael would have been supporting Jane, and that would have then been the reason for his "murder". But that, I think, has been debunked by herself, I saw her e-mail about that some time ago. Still, I think, that if Michael was aware of this scenario, this would most probably be an important issue for him, and he probably would be supporting her.
There have also been reports of many governments having made secret vaccine agreements with the big international medical companies in case of a pandemic, here, for example, about Germany and it's contract with GlaxoSmithKline: You are not allowed to view links.
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What I'm thinking is that we should actually try to make our immune systems more effective, for example by getting enough vitamins, maybe especially the vitamin d (the recommendated amounts of which are just way too low right now, see for example You are not allowed to view links.
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And here are some links that I recommend you to get to know if you feel there might be some truth about these things that I have written about. These are all just my opinions and I'm still learning, still trying to search fo the truth. And if someone finds that some of what I've written might be true, I really hope that you'll try to study these things and make up your own opinion about all of this.
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Login and there'd be a lot more... There seems to be a lot of disinformation in the internet about these things, and it's sometimes quite difficult to see what information is legit, and what is just disinformation planned to lead you astray (telling half-truths,only some of the truths and ignoring some dimensions totally, or then just total disinformation).
About the 2012 mayan prophecies that have been talked about here, I really think that there is once again the agenda to use people's fears by making them believe that this is the time of the end of the world. It seems that it is actually, according to the mayan prophecies, the end of the cycle, a beginning of a new era, that might make a kind of transformation of consciousness happen. There's a lot of information in the net about this. I feel that we as a humanity should find the love and caring for each other once again, and get back to the basics; Why do we live? What are the most important things in life? What is the ultimate truth about life? What I think that our earth needs, also during the stormy times of 2012, is a change to the better in people's thinking, a lot of positive energy. These things have been talked about here so I won't go into that any more, at least not in this post. But there definately are things that suggest that Michael was aware of this, and the This is it -movie's comment ”We have four years to fix the problems.. don't look to the government to fix it” also might have something to do with that. Here's one article on 2012: You are not allowed to view links.
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Login PS. I edited this post and added there some more information and tried to clear some things up a bit, and also tried to make this post a bit easier to read. Mostly there are some new links because I felt that at least some of these things might be new for some people and maybe those links would help a little..I just feel that there would be so much to say and it is just impossible to get it all here..I feel this post is just way too long, quite disorganized and probably way too boring, but I still hope that somewhere there is a person that could find something helpful in this writing.. Because it just breaks my heart to see how many people are suffering in our world even at this very moment..

I think that if enough people just wake up to see this reality we're living in(and I don't even think it has to be a very great percentage of us, and when the waking up starts, which I see happening right now, it's gonna happen pretty fast.) So, there's a lot more of us, ordinary people with our hope of a better future, and I believe that we are going to survive, although that is not going to be easy or painless, but I still really believe that the "truth always prevails" : )
In the end of this post, I thought that it might be good to try to find some positive things to think about, here are a couple of Michael's songs that carry an important message : )
The lost children, let's start taking care for all the little children of the world
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