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What about people who claim to talk to Jesus or to God himself? What about all those saints that have talked to spirits of other saints? Dos that mean the church is not following the word of God for making them saints?I believe in God but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by men a long time ago to fit their needs to control people. Many things have been left out. And yes their are plenty of mediums who deceive and hurt people, or are just plane fake. But there are some who aren't. The ability to "see" the other side and communicate with spirits form that side is a God given ability as much as the other gifts he has given us. What are we supposed to do with them? Deny them? For the ones who have them of course. Thare e are many people with "special" abilities who help a lot of people. Does that make them bad?And btw, there are many things in the New Testament that contradict the Old One. Things that Jesus has changed and disagreed with from the O.T.Anyway...I guess it comes down with personal belief of each individual.
Quote from: "onthewingsoflove"What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. :twisted: Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6). It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits. Blessings to all up “on the wings of love.”What about people who claim to talk to Jesus or to God himself? What about all those saints that have talked to spirits of other saints? Dos that mean the church is not following the word of God for making them saints?I believe in God but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by men a long time ago to fit their needs to control people. Many things have been left out. And yes their are plenty of mediums who deceive and hurt people, or are just plane fake. But there are some who aren't. The ability to "see" the other side and communicate with spirits form that side is a God given ability as much as the other gifts he has given us. What are we supposed to do with them? Deny them? For the ones who have them of course. Thare e are many people with "special" abilities who help a lot of people. Does that make them bad?And btw, there are many things in the New Testament that contradict the Old One. Things that Jesus has changed and disagreed with from the O.T.Anyway...I guess it comes down with personal belief of each individual.
What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. :twisted: Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6). It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits. Blessings to all up “on the wings of love.”
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
QuoteIt’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”Oh! so much L.O.V.E in those words :roll: ....yeah, they come from GOD :roll: sure.....This is one example of pure manipulation based on fear that happened when the "Bible" was written/ transcripted with the hand of men...men who wanted to control the folks.God is supposed to be about love, care and giving a second chance. The punishments I´ve just read and marked in black have nothing to do with the concept of God but the evil human. So tragic.During the middle age era, I would have been burned, that´s for sure :cry:
I don't want to get too personal when it comes to religion, because I believe it's just between me and God and whatever I believe, do, don't do, etc it's only Him that can judge me ( if he wants to). My point before was that The God preached and shown by Jesus was one of LOVE and forgiveness; was a God who told that the ones without a sin should cast the first stone and even though he was the only one without sin he not only forgave the woman but embraced and helped her. And that to me stands in great opposition with some of the things in the OT. Going back to our issue, I want to stress that these people with psychic abilities do exist, they do have these abilities form God and it's not always a matter of them contacting spirits, it's the other way around. And I don't think the gift/ability is the issue but how they use it. And this is the same as with any gift. Yes, it is true that some bad spirits disguise themselves as good ones but to someone with experience and God in his heart he can tell which is which. Because it's not appearance, it's about the energy, the "feel"...and no matter how much they try you can feel who is good and who isn't. One more point and I'm done The world is not black and white and remember that God created everything. He is pure love and pure love is not vindictive, does not hate ; he loves everyone and helps everyone who asks.
The Celebpychic blog also had an earlier eerie prediction about the safety of little Blanket:So about two weeks ago I wanted to do a seance type thing in order to contact the spirit of Michael Jackson. To be honest I was/am a bit afraid to do it and I really don't want to exploit Michael anymore than some of his family and the media have already but I had a dream the other night. Being psychic doesn't make you unafraid of the unknown. This is not really a psychic prediction for Michael Jackson's kids its more of a warning.It seemed as if it took place at his memorial at the staples center and I kept getting images of his children. They just kept on flashing before me and his youngest sons Blanket's name kept on being whispered in my ear. It seems as if Michael is very frightened for Blanket and really hopes he'll be able to handle everything. I also kind of felt as if he was also worried about Prince Michael. His daughter Paris didn't really come up in the dream.When I am comfortable I might try the seance but for right now I am comfortable with getting messages from Michael Jackson in my dreams.Here is the url: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Quote from: "Gema"During the middle age era, I would have been burned, that´s for sure :cry:I agree with you Gema. When you looked to your right, you would have seen me on the stake next to you. At least we would have burned together...maybe we have.
During the middle age era, I would have been burned, that´s for sure :cry:
Quote from: "onthewingsoflove"What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. :twisted: Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6). It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits. Blessings to all up “on the wings of love.” :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Are you serious??? Do you believe in this? And think it´s ok?
Quote from: "Truth_or_Dare"I don't want to get too personal when it comes to religion, because I believe it's just between me and God and whatever I believe, do, don't do, etc it's only Him that can judge me ( if he wants to). My point before was that The God preached and shown by Jesus was one of LOVE and forgiveness; was a God who told that the ones without a sin should cast the first stone and even though he was the only one without sin he not only forgave the woman but embraced and helped her. And that to me stands in great opposition with some of the things in the OT. Going back to our issue, I want to stress that these people with psychic abilities do exist, they do have these abilities form God and it's not always a matter of them contacting spirits, it's the other way around. And I don't think the gift/ability is the issue but how they use it. And this is the same as with any gift. Yes, it is true that some bad spirits disguise themselves as good ones but to someone with experience and God in his heart he can tell which is which. Because it's not appearance, it's about the energy, the "feel"...and no matter how much they try you can feel who is good and who isn't. One more point and I'm done The world is not black and white and remember that God created everything. He is pure love and pure love is not vindictive, does not hate ; he loves everyone and helps everyone who asks.Casting a stone! Who is casting a stone at you? You asked a question about how others hear God and those who hear the saints and I only explained that to you. Noone is casting a stone, why would you say this. Nothing I said was casting a stone at all. God isn't going to justify his word with those types of things is what I am saying. Yes, God created everything but he is not evil and he isn't going to compromise His word. He is love. If God stated and warned you in love to be clear of those things then it is love that warns you as well not about casting a stone.
Quote from: "Merkaba"Quote from: "onthewingsoflove"What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. :twisted: Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6). It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits. Blessings to all up “on the wings of love.” :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Are you serious??? Do you believe in this? And think it´s ok?I would also like to question her view on intuition... since intuition fails into the illogical psychic box, rather than the factual logical box... and belief is an intuition, as is faith... as is believing that Jesus was born to a virgin... as is believing Michael to be alive... So, unless she has some factual evidence that he is alive... then, we're all here on intuition..
Quote from: "Melzy777"I would also like to question her view on intuition... since intuition fails into the illogical psychic box, rather than the factual logical box... and belief is an intuition, as is faith... as is believing that Jesus was born to a virgin... as is believing Michael to be alive... So, unless she has some factual evidence that he is alive... then, we're all here on intuition.. :shock: :shock: :shock: :cry: :cry: :cry: And we are all condemned to death......To be stoned in the name of LOVE......... :? :? :?
I would also like to question her view on intuition... since intuition fails into the illogical psychic box, rather than the factual logical box... and belief is an intuition, as is faith... as is believing that Jesus was born to a virgin... as is believing Michael to be alive... So, unless she has some factual evidence that he is alive... then, we're all here on intuition..