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liegi

Could this panel discussion been an initiative on the part of Tom Mesereau to show how Michael was treated unfairly?  There has to be a reason for it.
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Liegi,I wondered the same thing, who was the lead? :geek:
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liegi

It says the Los Angeles Bar Association and all the legal people involved.  This can't be a coincidence.
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Quote from: "BeTheChange"
Here's the first part of William Wagener's report on the meeting (it says part 2 will be posted tomorrow).  I L.O.V.E. this guy  ;)

[youtube:2mpe2hr6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZCinDvhH1g[/youtube:2mpe2hr6]

I tried to embed the vid but for some reason, it isn't working for me.  Hope the link works.

With L.O.V.E. always.


Hi BeTheChange! :D

   I've been watching William Wagener's video too :) . I love that he is trying to help show evidence of how Tom Sneddon is a fraud.  He went to a private party for Katherine a few days ago. William did mention that he was at the 2005 trial everyday, but he got kicked out of the court room for shaking Jackie's hand during a break at the trial. I do wonder at times if he might know about the hoax?

"Imagine the joy if Tom Sneddon does go to prison for faking evidences, and indirectly causing the death of MJ"                          
 That's what he put on his facebook page.


[youtube:2mpe2hr6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_qF3ockow[/youtube:2mpe2hr6]
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[size=150]You can change the world, I can\'t do it by myself.
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Quote from: "ForTheTruth"

Hi BeTheChange! :D

   I've been watching William Wagener's video too :) . I love that he is trying to help show evidence of how Tom Sneddon is a fraud.  He went to a private party for Katherine a few days ago. William did mention that he was at the 2005 trial everyday, but he got kicked out of the court room for shaking Jackie's hand during a break at the trial. I do wonder at times if he might know about the hoax?

"Imagine the joy if Tom Sneddon does go to prison for faking evidences, and indirectly causing the death of MJ"                          
 That's what he put on his facebook page.


Hi ForTheTruth  :D

I've been hoping that he would post part 2 of the video, but he hasn't yet.  He seems very committed to seeking justice for MJ and yes, it would be a HUGE joy to see Tom Sneddon, among others, go to prison for what they did to Mike.  Hopefully, we will see that happen soon.

With L.O.V.E. always.
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The beauty of Michael Jackson is found in his heart and soul...his enormous talent is a bonus and what a bonus it is.

~PLAY the moments...PAUSE the memories...STOP the pain...REWIND the happiness~

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liegi

That would be true justice!!!
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Quote from: "BeTheChange"
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"

Hi BeTheChange! :D

   I've been watching William Wagener's video too :) . I love that he is trying to help show evidence of how Tom Sneddon is a fraud.  He went to a private party for Katherine a few days ago. William did mention that he was at the 2005 trial everyday, but he got kicked out of the court room for shaking Jackie's hand during a break at the trial. I do wonder at times if he might know about the hoax?

"Imagine the joy if Tom Sneddon does go to prison for faking evidences, and indirectly causing the death of MJ"                          
 That's what he put on his facebook page.


Hi ForTheTruth  :D

I've been hoping that he would post part 2 of the video, but he hasn't yet.  He seems very committed to seeking justice for MJ and yes, it would be a HUGE joy to see Tom Sneddon, among others, go to prison for what they did to Mike.  Hopefully, we will see that happen soon.

With L.O.V.E. always.


I hope so! He posted Part 2! :)

[youtube:2ifsxc84]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObwNTnNgiTQ[/youtube:2ifsxc84]
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[size=150]You can change the world, I can\'t do it by myself.
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pepper

According to this video, Ron Zonen said the 2005 trial was "ultimately a shake down of Michael Jackson."

Dictionary - shake down
noun
   1. Slang. Extortion of money, as by blackmail.
   2. Slang. A thorough search of a place or person.
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Thesaurus: shakedown
noun
      A thorough search of a place or persons: frisk, search. See investigate.
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US Military Dictionary: shakedown
n. informal 1. a radical change or restructuring, particularly in a hierarchical organization or group: after the collapse of the Soviet Union, a shakedown of the Russian press was inevitable.

2. a thorough search of a person or place: harassment and shakedowns by persons in police uniforms.

3. a swindle; a piece of extortion: he wants to eliminate bribery, shakedowns, and bid-rigging in New York City's construction industry.
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Slang Dictionary: shakedown
n. an act of extortion. (Underworld.)  Mary was giving Bruno the shakedown, so he tried to put her out of the way.

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~Souza~


Zonen fucking ADMITTED that it was extortion????? WTF??? And NOW he decides to share that? Fucking asshole! (excusez-moi...)

What are they going to do after this discussion? What is its purpose?
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2 Bad

I'm not sure what the purpose is other than to expose the truth. For the bar to have this discussion....hmmm. I just hope this info gets slung far and wide! So far there is no negative towards Michael? It is all aimed at how the judicial system worked it? I wasn't able to hear the entire audio on either of the videos.
If the past truth is exposed perhaps the present questions will be answered eventually?
"Piece by piece by piece Michael will be exposed...."

You can't convince me the past year was not planned.
Love you Michael!

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Do

Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "2 Bad"
I posted the following reply in the wrong thread (Re: MJ Cemetery Charging 3 Bucks to Leave Gifts)
I was reading the link posted and just replied to that.
So I am posting it here:

:o :shock: :o :shock: :shock:

Damn, all this has my head spinning!
They're dirty, they're nasty, they're dirty dirty dirty!!!!!!!!!!!

Last week I was on the Amazon forum and we were talking about Michael's 20 million friends on Facebook. I put the suggestion out that 20 million fans donating $1.00 each would amount to 20 million dollars (to be put in an escrow trust) and to be used in some way to help vindicate MJ. Whew.
I think it is possible!!!
Now I often wondered what the tie was with Biggie, Tupac and MJ and this DA Gil Garcetti is just as involved as the Sssssnake. Dee Dee's murder article posted brought in a few more things. Thank you!

If OJ's trial was less than 10million, just think what 20million would do??
There are a lot of people that could pull this together, not "believers" but hey we "Believers"are all for making MJ's return as painless as possible. Vindication in court, exposing the filthy would do that. The non-believers would realize eventually that we have every right to do a "I told you so" dance. May be a long time till we do the dance but we are all patient, adults right?

Ok so I dream BIG!!!
Any comments? Anyone want to move this to it's own thread?
Souza? Mo?

That idea was posted before. I mailed Tom Mesereau for advise, but he never got back to me. I want to know what the legal possibilities are when we would file a suit against the snakes with people from all over the world. We also need a solicitor that manages the money and a very good legal team. A few people from California need to represent us all. It would be a hell of a project. I don't know what the possibilities are. Maybe someone here with a degree in California law knows how this can be done. This is not something that can be done just like that, you need proof (not just internet articles) and it needs to be prepared.
William Wagener is very willing to help I suppose, see this thread.

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2 Bad

I'm sure Wagener would be a big help.

There is quite a discussion on the Amazon forums about this event.
These are serious professional people and though they love MJ they do not let the "Fan" image cloud what they hope others will understand about what they try to do.
MJ fans are considered "crazy" you know  :lol:

A Possible Opportunity to Revisit Jackson Civil/Criminal Cases

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skyways

Have to say, - Michaels Fedora from SC is all around Again!.. :P
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[youtube:2cuv4ri3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZCinDvhH1g[/youtube:2cuv4ri3]




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Quote from: "~Souza~"

Zonen fucking ADMITTED that it was extortion????? WTF??? And NOW he decides to share that? Fucking asshole! (excusez-moi...)

What are they going to do after this discussion? What is its purpose?

This is what enquiring minds want to know.

But NO. All we get is updates on whether Octo-Mom is gonna do that sex tape or not.
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