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@ IWantYouBack, i just picked up on this comment, i missed reading it before.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginMichael always said that no matter what he didn't want to be performing "Billie Jean" when he was 50 and that he just wanted to have a happy, worry-free life with his children. Why all of a sudden the change of heart? I personally believe that he wanted to do This Is It to pay off his debt, but then his life was threatened and had to do this hoax that was on the back-burner for a while. This is just my opinion though. Not saying you're wrong, and I'm not saying I'm right.i am curious about your opinion. so do you believe that MJ intended to do TII concerts? (i personally believe there was no intention of ever doing the concerts, but i could be wrong and am happy to consider the alternative) i believe that the DVD was never concert rehersal recording, even though many people (doubles, singers, dancers, audo technicians etc, were employed to 'work' on such a project. i tend to think these people arent in on the hoax (most of them anyways) and that they thought they were participating in concert rehersal, when in fact they were really just filming TII. i believe that it was all for the DVD, not for a concert. again, JMHO i could be completely wrong. do you also think that the hoax was a fall back plan because of dollars or endangerment? i tend to think that DH is the master plan and has been since bad era, with a pointed start date, (being 25.06.09) with lots of preparation going into it years in advance. i personally doubt that DH was a plan there on the side, should he need to use it. also if he used DH because of being in danger, then why predict a BAM (TII, songs, family whispers, back, front, TS, etc) dunno, i strongly believe this. could be wrong and am happy to consider other alternatives, but right now i just don't see it being a fall back / escape plan.i know this post is kinda off topic. and there are other threads dedicated to this, which i have read. but while we are at it quickly, does anyone else have an opinion on this? IWantYouBack, keen to hear your thoughts futher on this.
Michael always said that no matter what he didn't want to be performing "Billie Jean" when he was 50 and that he just wanted to have a happy, worry-free life with his children. Why all of a sudden the change of heart? I personally believe that he wanted to do This Is It to pay off his debt, but then his life was threatened and had to do this hoax that was on the back-burner for a while. This is just my opinion though. Not saying you're wrong, and I'm not saying I'm right.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginIf Michael wasn’t in debt then what is the estate clearing up for 3 years? ...This is what I meant when I said that there must be some sort of strategy involved to doing it this way. Legal reasons. Like Michael's way of continuing to do business after "death" or funding the hoax and those involved or something. Another way to keep talking about him.... :ghsdf: .....the film continues.... :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :michael-jackson: :icon_e_wink:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginIf Michael wasn’t in debt then what is the estate clearing up for 3 years? ...This is what I meant when I said that there must be some sort of strategy involved to doing it this way. Legal reasons. Like Michael's way of continuing to do business after "death" or funding the hoax and those involved or something.
If Michael wasn’t in debt then what is the estate clearing up for 3 years? ...
Hey hes, how do you suppose that he planned this hoax for over 20 years and then just so happened to be threatened with his life so badly at exactly the right time for him to "disappear" just as he planned anyway? Convenient timing?Also, I don't think Liberian Girl pics and references all over the memorial/burial are very subtle clues. That's pretty in-your-face if you know anything at all about MJ. I wouldn't drop that kind of blatant hint if my life were truly in danger, especially not repeatedly. There are no fun n games in the scenario you suggest and this hoax and it's clues are FULL of fun n games.Also, if your life is in danger, who do you call... your Rabbi? Or the FBI? Come on.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginHey hes, how do you suppose that he planned this hoax for over 20 years and then just so happened to be threatened with his life so badly at exactly the right time for him to "disappear" just as he planned anyway? Convenient timing?Also, I don't think Liberian Girl pics and references all over the memorial/burial are very subtle clues. That's pretty in-your-face if you know anything at all about MJ. I wouldn't drop that kind of blatant hint if my life were truly in danger, especially not repeatedly. There are no fun n games in the scenario you suggest and this hoax and it's clues are FULL of fun n games.Also, if your life is in danger, who do you call... your Rabbi? Or the FBI? Come on.Hi Bec, now that I’m home I can go into a little more detail and i can QUOTE :woohoo2: In answer directly to this question that I highlighted in red above, it’s Michael. He doesn’t do the conventional and he apparently is more spiritually than politically correct. I can honestly see him calling his advisor over law enforcement at least initially to get his or her input. Bsides, I don’t really think that Michael trusts the establishment after all he’s been through and I can understand that.Let me clarify better what I mean when I say his life was in danger. When Michael was approached to do the 0-2 Arena concerts, I do believe that he intended to do the 10 shows. I really do. But I also think that he had a change of heart when they kept upping his commitment until it reached 50. Somewhere I read that he agreed finally to 31. If he did, I don’t think he did so cheerfully. However, in view of him having spoken on more than one occasion of someone or a few someones out to harm him, something occurred to me during this time that made me feel uneasy. During the time of all this planning for him to take up residence in London and do all these shows with millions of people in attendance, there was a pandemic outbreak of influenza being reported in London. They were in the middle of taking precautions to keep people away from crowded places where the germs could easily be carried and Michael whose immune system was already compromised, fit right smack in the middle of those more susceptible to acquiring this virus. Then the matter of the insurance policies with the clause specific to “if he dies during the contract” blah, blah, blah. Well hell, if it were me my first thought would be then why are you insisting that I go to live right in the heart of an outbreak of a pandemic that is relevant as we speak, when every one else is preparing to stay away' and not only are you adding shows but insuring me to the max should I “die” in the process? :icon_e_confused: I would wonder now, is this how you plan to get rid of me? Why are we not talking cancellation until further notice like after this thing or the threat of it has subsided? The first case of the Avian flu in London was reported on April 30 2009. By June 5, there were over 100 confirmed cases and on June 11 WHO signaled that the first pandemic of the 21st century was underway. People were being advised to keep children home from school and for others who were most vulnerable to stay away from large gatherings. large gatherings :WTF: How much larger a gathering could there be than a Michael Jackson concert times 50? One of the key mechanisms of communication used in London was the NHS London Noon Brief. This was first issued at 12.00 noon on 25 April 2009 as a simple, black and white Word document, to local NHS flu leads. Over the following weeks and months it evolved into a structured daily command and control document where new information and actions were clearly identified and the audience swelled to over 700 people across the NHS in London, partner organisations and wider stakeholders. Yet there was no slowing down or altering of any plans for Michael to go there with his children and live and breathe for months :icon_evil: No one can convince me that the event planners didn’t know the danger associated with having Michael go to London during this crisis. And from what we’ve been told, some were mean to him and strong arming him which further exacerbates someone’s fear. Well mine anyway. There was mention that the footage used in This Is It was footage from rehearsals over the 3 days prior to June 25th. I have always believed that the practice held at the Staples Center on June 22nd was the big one; the one attended by security and other unidentified onlookers. This was reported by one of the This Is It dancers. AEG apparently was not willing to lose their money and would not release Michael from his commitment regardless of the threat that loomed in London. So he was packed I’ve heard and ready to roll. Well he rolled all right, :smiley-vault-misc-150: and the rest is History - past, present, and future.I don’t have any proof of what or how Michael thought or felt. I’m basing all of this on what seems to me the natural thought process if it were me and I had felt threatened. Would I try to get out of it by any means necessary. Damn right I would. Don’t know if I’d have enough clout or money to fake my death but I know I could fake crazy :icon_lol: and they would be taking me out in a strait jacket.I believe that not only was Michael concerned about his own health and well being, but also all those people, his beloved fans who would put themselves and their lives at risk just to see him. I don’t see him allowing that to happen. I believe that once this became a known pandemic, he decided to make his This Is It 0-2 Arena practice into This Is It the world renowned critically acclaimed masterpiece that it turned out to be. No one had to risk life or well being to see it. He gave it to us as a gift. So the hoax began a little early. I think... :icon_geek:Now you can call me crazy, delusional, or what ever fits :LolLolLolLol: it’s okay. I’ve been called worse since I became a hoax investigator for this Michael Jackson Death Hoax. I’ve put on my rhinoceros skin and I can take it. So bring it on :michael_jackson-1135:
Hello Curls - As I'm at work I can only make a quick reply w/o quotes. But in answer to your question, I think that the clues Michael left were not meant for everyone and I believe he knew that not everyone would follow them or pay any attention to them or us for pointing them out, dismissing everything happening right in front of their eyes. And judging from the millions who think we are insane, he was obviously right. There were things that happened prior to the hoax but after the 0-2 announcement that made me very suspicious and afraid for him. When June 25, 2009 came I immediately thought someone had made good on their threats to kill him. However, the clues, that only few could see showed me otherwise. Thatis when I felt that he had outsmarted them and gotten away.
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