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Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Quote from: "2good2btrue"On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead.......[youtube:3uniisu0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q[/youtube:3uniisu0]Your comment made me remember something odd...The arrival on the bus appears in the trailer for the movie "This Is it" and the dancers say "there's Michael", "There's the man", "Woo", "The man is here" and then we see Michael enter a door, the screen goes Black and we see him inside Culver Studios, wearing the same jacket as the O2 Press conference. The stuff from Culver Studios is the "Green Screening" of the 11 dancers into 1100 for "They Don't Care About Us" Arch shot.Starts at about 0:29 in the video[youtube:3uniisu0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iEHGU6hd04[/youtube:3uniisu0]In the movie itself we don't see that arrival by bus and the dialogue starts after Michael has already entered Culver studios. So are we see Michael enter the O2 for the press conference or his entering Culver Studios? If it is from the Press conference why do they make it look like it's Culver Studios in the trailer for "This Is It"?If it is Culver Studios, then why is it included in the video for the O2 Press Conference and how would that be possible if the Culver studio footage was filmed AFTER the O2 Press Conference?Why would Michael be wearing the same Jacket at Culver that he wore at the O2 Press Conference and then they combine this footage when he makes his entrance at Culver Studios?You just blew my mind Serenity! :shock: :lol: I always thought the whole press conference looked really staged, and it didn't seem to me that the audience there was even in the same room, or filmed the same day. It looked fake and weird and off. So if it was all just filmed in a studio that would make a lot of sense.If that was Michael, then maybe he was wearing a prosthetic mask of "himself" - for the purpose of speculation. He would act out of character (he was very Tom Cruise-ish to me at that press conference), and talk differently then have a strange confrontational manner at the very end with someone we can't see.
Quote from: "2good2btrue"On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead.......[youtube:3uniisu0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q[/youtube:3uniisu0]Your comment made me remember something odd...The arrival on the bus appears in the trailer for the movie "This Is it" and the dancers say "there's Michael", "There's the man", "Woo", "The man is here" and then we see Michael enter a door, the screen goes Black and we see him inside Culver Studios, wearing the same jacket as the O2 Press conference. The stuff from Culver Studios is the "Green Screening" of the 11 dancers into 1100 for "They Don't Care About Us" Arch shot.Starts at about 0:29 in the video[youtube:3uniisu0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iEHGU6hd04[/youtube:3uniisu0]In the movie itself we don't see that arrival by bus and the dialogue starts after Michael has already entered Culver studios. So are we see Michael enter the O2 for the press conference or his entering Culver Studios? If it is from the Press conference why do they make it look like it's Culver Studios in the trailer for "This Is It"?If it is Culver Studios, then why is it included in the video for the O2 Press Conference and how would that be possible if the Culver studio footage was filmed AFTER the O2 Press Conference?Why would Michael be wearing the same Jacket at Culver that he wore at the O2 Press Conference and then they combine this footage when he makes his entrance at Culver Studios?
On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead.......[youtube:3uniisu0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q[/youtube:3uniisu0]
Quote from: "2good2btrue"On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead........You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login[youtube:1c2xj4h1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q&playnext=1&list=PL53757CA97B9D8894&index=10[/youtube:1c2xj4h1]Your comment made me remember something odd...[attachment=0:1c2xj4h1]O2 Press Bus.png[/attachment:1c2xj4h1]The arrival on the bus appears in the trailer for the movie "This Is it" and the dancers say "there's Michael", "There's the man", "Woo", "The man is here" and then we see Michael enter a door, the screen goes Black and we see him inside Culver Studios, wearing the same jacket as the O2 Press conference. The stuff from Culver Studios is the "Green Screening" of the 11 dancers into 1100 for "They Don't Care About Us" Arch shot.Starts at about 0:29 in the video[youtube:1c2xj4h1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iEHGU6hd04[/youtube:1c2xj4h1][attachment=4:1c2xj4h1]Trailer TII 1.png[/attachment:1c2xj4h1][attachment=3:1c2xj4h1]Trailer TII 2.png[/attachment:1c2xj4h1]In the movie itself we don't see that arrival by bus and the dialogue starts after Michael has already entered Culver studios. [attachment=2:1c2xj4h1]TII DVD 1.png[/attachment:1c2xj4h1][attachment=1:1c2xj4h1]TII DVD 2.png[/attachment:1c2xj4h1]So are we see Michael enter the O2 for the press conference or his entering Culver Studios? If it is from the Press conference why do they make it look like it's Culver Studios in the trailer for "This Is It"?If it is Culver Studios, then why is it included in the video for the O2 Press Conference and how would that be possible if the Culver studio footage was filmed AFTER the O2 Press Conference?Why would Michael be wearing the same Jacket at Culver that he wore at the O2 Press Conference and then they combine this footage when he makes his entrance at Culver Studios?Because it's all a movie and a big huge hoax! :lol:
On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead........You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login[youtube:1c2xj4h1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q&playnext=1&list=PL53757CA97B9D8894&index=10[/youtube:1c2xj4h1]
My bet is on the table full of computer photoshop nerds working away at them..
QuoteThis is press room equipment that is being provided at important events.This is giving prepared PR information to the press vultures so they have images & text to copy and paste. Usually you would use an office space somewhere down the corridor "backstage" and not place them inside of the "official press conference room" which in fact was a lobby at O2. (rings "lobbyist" to me...)The photoshop of the images is of miserable amateur quality and was either done in a rush or on purpose. As the O2 conference was the kick-off of everything following, I personally tend to not consider "done in a rush". The hiatus of the publication platform of those over 400 photoshop examples of "how to not do it" fits into the picture.I know what a press room is I have sat in one many times,it doesn't look like any press or production room I have ever been in.Doesn't answer my question of why this picture still taken from TII was shown or why they had to alter them that much to make it look more like MJ..if it was MJ standing at the conference.Whenever it was done, the pictures looking more MJ like-whiter/different nose etc were not released until December 09 the only ones on the net between March and Dec were the original ones that look nothing like him...9months isn't a rush.Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Quote from: "Andrea"Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Quote from: "2good2btrue"On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead.......[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q[/youtube:xlv5d9te]Your comment made me remember something odd...The arrival on the bus appears in the trailer for the movie "This Is it" and the dancers say "there's Michael", "There's the man", "Woo", "The man is here" and then we see Michael enter a door, the screen goes Black and we see him inside Culver Studios, wearing the same jacket as the O2 Press conference. The stuff from Culver Studios is the "Green Screening" of the 11 dancers into 1100 for "They Don't Care About Us" Arch shot.Starts at about 0:29 in the video[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iEHGU6hd04[/youtube:xlv5d9te]In the movie itself we don't see that arrival by bus and the dialogue starts after Michael has already entered Culver studios. So are we see Michael enter the O2 for the press conference or his entering Culver Studios? If it is from the Press conference why do they make it look like it's Culver Studios in the trailer for "This Is It"?If it is Culver Studios, then why is it included in the video for the O2 Press Conference and how would that be possible if the Culver studio footage was filmed AFTER the O2 Press Conference?Why would Michael be wearing the same Jacket at Culver that he wore at the O2 Press Conference and then they combine this footage when he makes his entrance at Culver Studios?You just blew my mind Serenity! :shock: :lol: I always thought the whole press conference looked really staged, and it didn't seem to me that the audience there was even in the same room, or filmed the same day. It looked fake and weird and off. So if it was all just filmed in a studio that would make a lot of sense.How about this. It is an audio clip from a video recorded by a fan at the O2 conference. The video has been removed from youtube but I saved it and extracted this audio. I have slowed it down a bit. A guy in the crowd at the O2 Press Conference says "We're going to a Funeral"You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This is press room equipment that is being provided at important events.This is giving prepared PR information to the press vultures so they have images & text to copy and paste. Usually you would use an office space somewhere down the corridor "backstage" and not place them inside of the "official press conference room" which in fact was a lobby at O2. (rings "lobbyist" to me...)The photoshop of the images is of miserable amateur quality and was either done in a rush or on purpose. As the O2 conference was the kick-off of everything following, I personally tend to not consider "done in a rush". The hiatus of the publication platform of those over 400 photoshop examples of "how to not do it" fits into the picture.
Quote from: "Andrea"Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Quote from: "2good2btrue"On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead.......[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q[/youtube:xlv5d9te]Your comment made me remember something odd...The arrival on the bus appears in the trailer for the movie "This Is it" and the dancers say "there's Michael", "There's the man", "Woo", "The man is here" and then we see Michael enter a door, the screen goes Black and we see him inside Culver Studios, wearing the same jacket as the O2 Press conference. The stuff from Culver Studios is the "Green Screening" of the 11 dancers into 1100 for "They Don't Care About Us" Arch shot.Starts at about 0:29 in the video[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iEHGU6hd04[/youtube:xlv5d9te]In the movie itself we don't see that arrival by bus and the dialogue starts after Michael has already entered Culver studios. So are we see Michael enter the O2 for the press conference or his entering Culver Studios? If it is from the Press conference why do they make it look like it's Culver Studios in the trailer for "This Is It"?If it is Culver Studios, then why is it included in the video for the O2 Press Conference and how would that be possible if the Culver studio footage was filmed AFTER the O2 Press Conference?Why would Michael be wearing the same Jacket at Culver that he wore at the O2 Press Conference and then they combine this footage when he makes his entrance at Culver Studios?You just blew my mind Serenity! :shock: :lol: I always thought the whole press conference looked really staged, and it didn't seem to me that the audience there was even in the same room, or filmed the same day. It looked fake and weird and off. So if it was all just filmed in a studio that would make a lot of sense.How about this. It is an audio clip from a video recorded by a fan at the O2 conference. The video has been removed from youtube but I saved it and extracted this audio. I have slowed it down a bit. A guy in the crowd at the O2 Press Conference says "We're going to a Funeral"You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Quote from: "2good2btrue"On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead.......[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q[/youtube:xlv5d9te]Your comment made me remember something odd...The arrival on the bus appears in the trailer for the movie "This Is it" and the dancers say "there's Michael", "There's the man", "Woo", "The man is here" and then we see Michael enter a door, the screen goes Black and we see him inside Culver Studios, wearing the same jacket as the O2 Press conference. The stuff from Culver Studios is the "Green Screening" of the 11 dancers into 1100 for "They Don't Care About Us" Arch shot.Starts at about 0:29 in the video[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iEHGU6hd04[/youtube:xlv5d9te]In the movie itself we don't see that arrival by bus and the dialogue starts after Michael has already entered Culver studios. So are we see Michael enter the O2 for the press conference or his entering Culver Studios? If it is from the Press conference why do they make it look like it's Culver Studios in the trailer for "This Is It"?If it is Culver Studios, then why is it included in the video for the O2 Press Conference and how would that be possible if the Culver studio footage was filmed AFTER the O2 Press Conference?Why would Michael be wearing the same Jacket at Culver that he wore at the O2 Press Conference and then they combine this footage when he makes his entrance at Culver Studios?You just blew my mind Serenity! :shock: :lol: I always thought the whole press conference looked really staged, and it didn't seem to me that the audience there was even in the same room, or filmed the same day. It looked fake and weird and off. So if it was all just filmed in a studio that would make a lot of sense.
Quote from: "2good2btrue"On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead.......[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q[/youtube:xlv5d9te]Your comment made me remember something odd...The arrival on the bus appears in the trailer for the movie "This Is it" and the dancers say "there's Michael", "There's the man", "Woo", "The man is here" and then we see Michael enter a door, the screen goes Black and we see him inside Culver Studios, wearing the same jacket as the O2 Press conference. The stuff from Culver Studios is the "Green Screening" of the 11 dancers into 1100 for "They Don't Care About Us" Arch shot.Starts at about 0:29 in the video[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iEHGU6hd04[/youtube:xlv5d9te]In the movie itself we don't see that arrival by bus and the dialogue starts after Michael has already entered Culver studios. So are we see Michael enter the O2 for the press conference or his entering Culver Studios? If it is from the Press conference why do they make it look like it's Culver Studios in the trailer for "This Is It"?If it is Culver Studios, then why is it included in the video for the O2 Press Conference and how would that be possible if the Culver studio footage was filmed AFTER the O2 Press Conference?Why would Michael be wearing the same Jacket at Culver that he wore at the O2 Press Conference and then they combine this footage when he makes his entrance at Culver Studios?
On the This is It dvd, it shows MJ arriving/leaving to the press conference on a buggy.Whereas all the videos of the 02 announcement, show him not going on the buggy, but instead choosing to walk instead.......[youtube:xlv5d9te]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzvD4CmP9Q[/youtube:xlv5d9te]
Those two photos were taken from different places, so different angles, different lights, different cameras. His nose looks more slim in the paler photo, but I think it's just because of the light.
It is possible though that someone photosopped some of the O2 pictures.But these two don't prove it to me, as they are basically different. On the second photo you can see a necklace under his left collar. And the mike covers his suit differently, you can see it if you focus on the embroidery.
Quote from: "DREAMSandTRUTH"Quote from: "Sinderella"Quote from: "Sinderella" Released:March 09 Released December 09Like I said before...If they were going to photoshop the pictures to REMOVE the tan he quite obviously had,slim his nose down,change his chin,chop his hair,why make him look different in the first place?Why not save these 6 guys below a job of 'shopping every picture to make them look MORE like Michael?PHOTOSHOP R USand this is without the lack of vocab,weird behaviour/walk/bounce/accent..etc.No one is going to change my mind.Those two photos were taken from different places, so different angles, different lights, different cameras. His nose looks more slim in the paler photo, but I think it's just because of the light.It is possible though that someone photosopped some of the O2 pictures.But these two don't prove it to me, as they are basically different. On the second photo you can see a necklace under his left collar. And the mike covers his suit differently, you can see it if you focus on the embroidery.You must be kidding me?
Quote from: "Sinderella"Quote from: "Sinderella" Released:March 09 Released December 09Like I said before...If they were going to photoshop the pictures to REMOVE the tan he quite obviously had,slim his nose down,change his chin,chop his hair,why make him look different in the first place?Why not save these 6 guys below a job of 'shopping every picture to make them look MORE like Michael?PHOTOSHOP R USand this is without the lack of vocab,weird behaviour/walk/bounce/accent..etc.No one is going to change my mind.Those two photos were taken from different places, so different angles, different lights, different cameras. His nose looks more slim in the paler photo, but I think it's just because of the light.It is possible though that someone photosopped some of the O2 pictures.But these two don't prove it to me, as they are basically different. On the second photo you can see a necklace under his left collar. And the mike covers his suit differently, you can see it if you focus on the embroidery.
Quote from: "Sinderella" Released:March 09 Released December 09Like I said before...If they were going to photoshop the pictures to REMOVE the tan he quite obviously had,slim his nose down,change his chin,chop his hair,why make him look different in the first place?Why not save these 6 guys below a job of 'shopping every picture to make them look MORE like Michael?PHOTOSHOP R USand this is without the lack of vocab,weird behaviour/walk/bounce/accent..etc.No one is going to change my mind.
Released:March 09 Released December 09
check this video on youtube it will explain. I had posted it on another thread.This will explain alot. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The O2-guy is definitely ripped! He looks like a leightweight bodybuilder.
I think it's Michael at the O2. I don't believe anyone could look that similar to Michael even with lots of cosmetic surgeries and/or masks or prosthetic makeup.Compare the second and the third photos which mjjamm posted: you can see that Michael's facial muscles work/move the same way as they worked when he was younger. This cannot be imitated IMO.Btw. his teeth looks the same to me too.And last but not least, you look a little different on every photo or even video. It depends on the light, on the angle etc. I know you guys know it, I don't have to explain it, I'm just saying Just watch this Ebony photo, does Michael's smile look as it generally used to look? I think it looks way less a typical Michael-smile than as Michael smiles at the O2.