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A little off topic here but you do realize that you can not predict the exact date a terminally ill patient will die, right. So if a real body was used in any of this, the person would have had to die before June 25, 2009 to fit into the numerology of the hoax. Otherwise, they would have to be an assisted suicide. I don't know what the laws are regarding that in California but Michael is a very religious person and suicide is considered a sin even for the terminally ill. Aiding someone in suicide, from a religious standpoint, is murder.So either the "death" date is by coincidence and Michael sat around waiting for this person to die, to start his death hoax and that just so happened to occur on June 25, 2009. This seems pretty selfish no matter what the reasons may be for the hoax; lacking in compassion even. And If this is the case then there is no numerology involved at all.Another problem with this is that Michael told Kenny Ortega that the illusion was starting on June 25. Michael would not have known that his terminally ill look-a-like was going to die the next morning. The double would have already had to pass away but again that negates the numerology. There would have been no guarantee that any ill person would pass away on or before June 25, 2009 so the date could not have been chosen ahead of time.To me that picture looks like a much younger Michael. I think it is a photoshop or a dummy in a controlled environment and no picture of the inside of the ambulance was even taken on June 25, 2009. We can't see the paramedics faces so we can not identify them either and that is probably for good reasons.
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"A little off topic here but you do realize that you can not predict the exact date a terminally ill patient will die, right. So if a real body was used in any of this, the person would have had to die before June 25, 2009 to fit into the numerology of the hoax. Otherwise, they would have to be an assisted suicide. I don't know what the laws are regarding that in California but Michael is a very religious person and suicide is considered a sin even for the terminally ill. Aiding someone in suicide, from a religious standpoint, is murder.So either the "death" date is by coincidence and Michael sat around waiting for this person to die, to start his death hoax and that just so happened to occur on June 25, 2009. This seems pretty selfish no matter what the reasons may be for the hoax; lacking in compassion even. And If this is the case then there is no numerology involved at all.Another problem with this is that Michael told Kenny Ortega that the illusion was starting on June 25. Michael would not have known that his terminally ill look-a-like was going to die the next morning. The double would have already had to pass away but again that negates the numerology. There would have been no guarantee that any ill person would pass away on or before June 25, 2009 so the date could not have been chosen ahead of time.To me that picture looks like a much younger Michael. I think it is a photoshop or a dummy in a controlled environment and no picture of the inside of the ambulance was even taken on June 25, 2009. We can't see the paramedics faces so we can not identify them either and that is probably for good reasons.I believe that the ambu pic could be staged or shopped.The body could ve been dead days in advance and kept untill the 25th. The room temperature was high, in June, and the room looked like a hospital.I thought also about euthanasia.
I believe that the ambu pic could be staged or shopped.The body could ve been dead days in advance and kept untill the 25th. The room temperature was high, in June, and the room looked like a hospital.I thought also about euthanasia.This is a good point but the problem with that is if the body was kept in this warm atmosphere for few days it would deteriorate very quickly and begin to smell! Even if a body was kept cold and them warmed up it would take a very long time to warm up the core temperature. It just doesn't make sense.
Also, when a person dies outside a hospital, legal procedures start right the way. A dead person is not rushed in an ambulance.Michael was alive if he was taken to the hospital in the ambulance.
Quote from: "Gema"Also, when a person dies outside a hospital, legal procedures start right the way. A dead person is not rushed in an ambulance.Michael was alive if he was taken to the hospital in the ambulance.I don't know how things work in California, but here in North Dakota, this is not true. My husbands grandma died in her home a couple of years ago, and was she taken to the hospital. Her husband has alzheimers and didn't understand what was happening. She had passed many hours prior to him calling 911. An ambulance came and got her and brought her to the hospital even though she was dead, and had been dead for quite while (the medics estimated about 4 hours).
Quote from: "momof3kids"Quote from: "Gema"Also, when a person dies outside a hospital, legal procedures start right the way. A dead person is not rushed in an ambulance.Michael was alive if he was taken to the hospital in the ambulance.I don't know how things work in California, but here in North Dakota, this is not true. My husbands grandma died in her home a couple of years ago, and was she taken to the hospital. Her husband has alzheimers and didn't understand what was happening. She had passed many hours prior to him calling 911. An ambulance came and got her and brought her to the hospital even though she was dead, and had been dead for quite while (the medics estimated about 4 hours).But then a doctor would have proclaim her dead and then taken to the hospital.No doctor proclaimed Michael dead at his home.