Madonna Illuminati Superbowl vs Michael's Heal the World Superbowl 93

[Love_is_all_u_need]

" How can you turn a rated G project, into something so bizarre? I suppose I must give it up to you all for having an imagination."

It wasn't us who turned it into something bizarre. We are simply pointing out the obvious. If you're not educated about the subject of Illuminati and the system of control in the music industry, you may dismiss the ability to discern their use of imagery as "imagination."

"Why so negative?Football is a celebration of the creme de le creme, in the football world. It's fun, time to be clowns at home"

Um...not according to Schmadonna. She said it was the "Holy of Holies" and a "church" ritual. Again, not us "imagining" it. Just reporting it. Give her a call and tell her to "loosen up" and not take it so seriously if that's how you really feel.

"Spouting off about conspiracies"  This is a dismissive, defensive reaction common when someone is in denial or doesn't grasp the reality of the situation.

" I looooove the Coliseum in Rome - and this felt like an ode, to it, and the people. Emperors would hold free games  with gladiators, for his people. THIS is what Madonna was honoring."

I think that's pretty much what bothers some of us. Emperors would hold free games with gladiators, I get it. Just a harmless little tribute to how we got our team mascots -- Christians Vs. Lions...Yeah, I think that was when they were in their "Decline into Barbaric Decadence" phase. Kind of like the slide the music industry took into decadence and after MJ's SB 93, when they took him down for being too powerful a force for good and a threat to their control of the artists.

" They saw their husbands staring at Madonna, who's still got a hard body, after giving birth twice!"

I'm so glad your here thrillerdancinmachine, I love the way you express yourself and your posts are incredibly insightful.  I know that you are communicating from a wise head and a good heart, well done.  /bravo/

[SimPattyK]

I am sorry Sim, I love you but really Madonna is under zero to me.[...]

OK, I understand You don't need to be sorry. And I respect your opinion.
I only told you why I like her music and why I dislike her as a person.
It wasn't to convince you to like her nor her music.

I don't want to pose as her "advocate" either.
I just don't like it when I see a good artist, that I like, being criticized and talked about only from a negative perspective.
I felt the need to step in this topic and give my opinion too. And I am glad that others felt just like me and came here to counter balance this thread with some positive comments too about Madonna.
She may have all the defects already presented in this thread, but she deserves to be credited for the artist that she is. That's all.

[SimPattyK]

Michael indeed is the untouchable, unreachable, no one will ever come close in Gift, craftsmanship..
So we really should stop comparing, because it's sad old fact - there is Michael. And there is the rest of showbiz, way down there.

I loved Madonna in 80s and early 90s, I respect her ability to survive through gym tortures etc.
She disciplines herself badly and never allows herself to be weak. She's strict and hard, it's all about discipline with her lol.
Not a Gift like Michael's, but only hard HARD work [Mike worked hard! Don't get me wrong.
But he had that special quality, that sunshine in him, he was born blessed  ]
Madonna basically was born with big Ambition and without anything else.  She built everything herself, like from scratch, through torturing herself and working like a slave on her voice and body and business deals. I respect her for that determination. But of course she will never have Magic. That magic.

Lol they do love their symbolism these days, eh? Well, that's all they have left once Magic is no more. Overdo symbolism to make things look "spectacular".

I fully agree with your entire comment, @Aidan_81 ! This is EXACTLY how I see them both!
This the most objective and full of common sense comment on this topic.  /bravo/

[SimPattyK]

[...]14-year old boys entertain themselves all day with their penises, but to give someone credit as a "great artist" and "entertainer" in the same sentence with MJ and Elvis who essentially delivers the same masturbatory sensation is indicative of the point I brought up; [....]
[....] and just like watching porno all day long makes it difficult for men to develop relationships with real women because they expect women to serve their compulsions and be distorted versions of who they really are, watching the circus the controlled media brainwashes you [...]

[...]@thrillerdancinmachine: I was disturbed, even offended by your aggressive and vulgar way you chose to address to me, even though we had never spoken before and even though I am not the only one to have "dared" to post positive things about Madonna in this topic. [...]
You could also use more decent examples or comparison terms, you don't really need to use pornographic "imagery" to illustrate your point of view. So in the future, please take this into consideration, especially if you want to have a conversation with me. Thank you.

[...]@thrillerdancemachine: YOU disturb me very, very much, with your condoning of pedophilia on this very BOARD!

I agree that you are disturbed, but it has nothing to do with me. To twist my clear as day condemnation of exploitation of human beings for profit as "condoning pedophilia" is as diabolical and snake-like as Bashir, Nancy Grace, Sneddon, and Diane Diamond twisting Michael's saying that he slept on the floor and let a young boy sleep in the bed into "I sleep with little boys." [...]

Please calm down. Nobody twisted anything. You were simply nicely asked to use more decent language/examples on this board.
And your again aggressive and very rude reaction towards Tink. And by you telling him that he is disturbed, you really twisted his own words in order to offend him, because he just happens to disagree with you. That's so low!
Stop accusing others of what you are doing, ok? And respect people even if they strongly disagree with you. Nobody has offended you here, yet you continue to do it.

[...]
What on earth is wrong here, people!? Why so negative? Football is a celebration of the creme de le creme, in the football world. It's fun, time to be clowns at home, and watch the spectacle with friends, in the comfort of your home!

Spouting off about conspiracies during a beautiful, inspirational, latest technology led half-time show? No ONE DIED! Hell, I got a few peeks at her cute gold/black cheerleader panties early on, so I knew we were heading that way. Yes; she made damn sure, there wasn't going to be any boobs getting flashed, and even children of all ages could see the show without fear. I applaud her wardrobe designer, and how fast the changes happened, just fantastic! Dancers - fantastic! She got to focus on singing!!

Everyone involved should be so proud, to be honest. I looooove the Coliseum in Rome - and this felt like an ode, to it, and the people. Emperors would hold free games  with gladiators, for his people. THIS is what Madonna was honoring. It's a show - if you didn't enjoy it, that's fine. But it was brilliant, and it made those in attendance forget the cold, as they swayed and danced!

All of us perhaps, need to just...enjoy the songs and the music. She wasn't competing with anybody!! She was there, simply to ENTERTAIN US!
[...]

Well said !!

[Tink]

Madonna was dressed like a Greek Goddess, sheeesh! Greek Goddesses: Gaia = MOTHER EARTH! Persephone: had to live a few months in the underworld, which is why we have winter. Aphrodite: Goddess of Love & Beauty. I believe she combined them all, perhaps with the message of: PEACE ON EARTH!

No one with any evil within them, is going to say that.

@thrillerdancemachine: YOU disturb me very, very much, with your condoning of pedophilia on this very BOARD!

I agree that you are disturbed, but it has nothing to do with me. To twist my clear as day condemnation of exploitation of human beings for profit as "condoning pedophilia" is as diabolical and snake-like as Bashir, Nancy Grace, Sneddon, and Diane Diamond twisting Michael's saying that he slept on the floor and let a young boy sleep in the bed into "I sleep with little boys." It's also like twisting ancient religious symbols and "World Peace" into the opposite of their intended meanings, which is what the Illuminati are famous for and what Michael is aware they did at the Superbowl, if he was watching. Keep your distracting defensive personal attacks on me for refusing to bow down and worship Schmadonna out of the replies and stick to saying something rational. Having worked with true talent like Michael and professionals on his level, I developed a taste for steak and prefer it to a Big Mac.

Quote from: thrillerdancinmachine on February 06, 2012, 10:46:31 PM
[...]14-year old boys entertain themselves all day with their penises, but to give someone credit as a "great artist" and "entertainer" in the same sentence with MJ and Elvis who essentially delivers the same masturbatory sensation is indicative of the point I brought up; [....]
[....] and just like watching porno all day long makes it difficult for men to develop relationships with real women because they expect women to serve their compulsions and be distorted versions of who they really are, watching the circus the controlled media brainwashes you [...]

[/quote]

So, you really don't comprehend that speaking about an underaged boy in such a disgusting way, isn't verbal pedophilia?
Then you turn it into an attack back upon me, after I said it disturbed me that you even mentioned it here, after what Michael went through with accusations, and being taken to trial?

Tell me - who are you really, and what is your business here in personally attacking everyone with Strawman arguments?

[pepper]

Jackson produced a stunning first: raising NBC’s halftime rating higher than the Super Bowl action before it.

[LoveShyMichael]

Madonna had a message behind her performance. Everyone does. Why is that when Michael makes statements about NWO/Illumnati, everyone believes him? But someone says Madonna's performance is just a "super bowl halftime performance"? Really do we all believe that? Michael has said history books are being re-wrote, performers are selling their souls to the devil, hand signals by the performers, among other stuff. Michael even sang about that in Scream. When others point it out that there is Illumanti signs there, it's just not another "super bowl performance" why can't that be considered? It's not a secret that Madonna, Jay-z, Beyonce, Mya, Lady ga-ga have been tied to be rumored to the Illumanti. With money & power at the heels of performers, drug-induced or non drug induced mind control, which Michael has also admitted that was involved in his life at some point. All this exists, & more so when people who listen to their music, are greatly influenced to follow their artists. This is no different than believers following Michael on the trials that destroyed his career. Michael believers believed him & stood by his side. The same goes with Illumanti artists, they are followed, & can be negatively be swayed to believing their way of thinking.  Those artists barely think for themselves anymore. When & if Michael did get out of the Illumanti control, he did because he was able to get a grip on his conscience, & know that they we're out to destroy him as a entertainer & person. He is a smart man, others aren't so lucky. Madonna's performance will be picked apart because there at one time is/was consistent with NWO/Illumanti.
If people feel she was just performing for entertainment, & don't have any knowledge of Illumanti, would just be watching wondering where all the goofy costumes, & why Madonna's dressed like some goddess, what would motivate some performer to dress like that with no message behind it. I don't buy it. There's a message, go or bad, it's there.

[thrillerdancinmachine]

[...][/quote]Please calm down. Nobody twisted anything. You were simply nicely asked to use more decent language/examples on this board.
And your again aggressive and very rude reaction towards Tink. And by you telling him that he is disturbed, you really twisted his own words in order to offend him, because he just happens to disagree with you. That's so low!
Stop accusing others of what you are doing, ok? And respect people even if they strongly disagree with you. Nobody has offended you here, yet you continue to do it.

You are obiously just obsessed with me, and Schmadonna, and are the only one needing to "calm down." I make a simple statement that is obvious to anyone with any level a=of taste, which was also obvious to Michael, Janet, and his family, in my first post, and you have been going off on a Schmadonnafest rampage ever since because you are an example of the effect she has on minds too weak not to see what she is. You are defensive and threatened to the point you have to defend your OBVIOUS idol at all costs, and attack me personally for refusing to jump up and down with you over your Boy Toy videos. For someone who doesn't have a problem watching a skanky ho give a pop bottle a blow job, you are just a little too concerned about "decent" language, don't you think? No one with a mind educated enough to understand metaphor would have any objection to a totally valid parallel btween pornography and Schmadonna's pornographifacation of music. Sorry if that was too big a word and concept for you. If you want to claim Amy Grant as your "great artist" hero, and hang out on vigilant citizen, go ahead and whine about my supposed "indecent" metaphors. But if you want to go to the Church of Madonna rituals you've witnessed for 25 years posing as "art," you're obviously no stranger to vulgarity. Give it up and move on.

[thrillerdancinmachine]

 "pornographifacation"
Sorry, forum posters. I was temporarily hypnotized by the Bohemian Grove ritual and forgot how to spell. "Pornographication."A fitting term to describe Schma's negative impact on music performance.  And it's pretty obvious to anyone not desperate to distract people with BS that "Tink" was the only person who twisted anything. I just called him out on his game. He twisted my likening teenagers entertaining themselves by doing with their penises what he and "SimPattyK" are doing with words into "condoning pedophilia." As if. You have to have quite an imagination to dream that one up. Are you sure you two don't write for Nancy Grace?

[applehead250609]

So, you really don't comprehend that speaking about an underaged boy in such a disgusting way, isn't verbal pedophilia?
Then you turn it into an attack back upon me, after I said it disturbed me that you even mentioned it here, after what Michael went through with accusations, and being taken to trial?

Tell me - who are you really, and what is your business here in personally attacking everyone with Strawman arguments?

OK, you busted me. I'm one of Schmadonna's backup dancers mind-controlled  sent here by the NWO to plant disinformation by pretending to hate Madonna, just to reverse brainwash you all. If you read my posts backwards you'll see they spell WORSHIP PRINCE." I'm just here to convert the whole MJDH beLIEvers to Prince fans.That's my real "Strawman" agenda. I confess. Give it freaking up. You are obviously the only one attacking anyone personally. No, I don't consider making a comparison between the effect Schm has on teenagers with the masturbatory effect she has on the decaying music industry "verbal pedophilia." Anymore than Michael saying he would want to die if there were no children an admission he was a suicidal child molester. And even answering such an inane accusation is equivalent to offering you a cloth to wipe up your own verbal smegma with, so please leave me out of your future literary fantasies as I'm way too onto your game. I'm all about Michael, and it's getting insulting to my decent sensibilities to keep having the Birdpoophead Goddess followers keep dragging me onto the altar with her. Move on to your next sacrificial victim.

OMG!  afraid/  afraid/  afraid/  :lol:  geek/  bangbang

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh2Nu2aTPP0[/youtube]

[GINAFELICIA]

So, you really don't comprehend that speaking about an underaged boy in such a disgusting way, isn't verbal pedophilia?
Then you turn it into an attack back upon me, after I said it disturbed me that you even mentioned it here, after what Michael went through with accusations, and being taken to trial?

Tell me - who are you really, and what is your business here in personally attacking everyone with Strawman arguments?

OK, you busted me. I'm one of Schmadonna's backup dancers mind-controlled  sent here by the NWO to plant disinformation by pretending to hate Madonna, just to reverse brainwash you all. If you read my posts backwards you'll see they spell WORSHIP PRINCE." I'm just here to convert the whole MJDH beLIEvers to Prince fans.That's my real "Strawman" agenda. I confess. Give it freaking up. You are obviously the only one attacking anyone personally. No, I don't consider making a comparison between the effect Schm has on teenagers with the masturbatory effect she has on the decaying music industry "verbal pedophilia." Anymore than Michael saying he would want to die if there were no children an admission he was a suicidal child molester. And even answering such an inane accusation is equivalent to offering you a cloth to wipe up your own verbal smegma with, so please leave me out of your future literary fantasies as I'm way too onto your game. I'm all about Michael, and it's getting insulting to my decent sensibilities to keep having the Birdpoophead Goddess followers keep dragging me onto the altar with her. Move on to your next sacrificial victim.

OMG!  afraid/  afraid/  afraid/  :lol:  geek/  bangbang

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh2Nu2aTPP0[/youtube]

LOL no, not crazy lol!! Not crazy at all.
Seriously.
Let's not deform our good taste in music.

[Sarahli]

I finally decided to watch this Madonna show seeing that it's being discussed. I love you all very much my fellow beLIEvers but I will disagree with all of you who said that there isn’t anything Illuminati-esque in this show of Madonna. To me it was so blatant, so much in your face that I’m surprised some people do not see it. I guess that’s why they’ve become so blatant and in your face with time and why those who dare to say something are now seen as “conspiracy nuts”. The same is going on with 9/11 and all things of the same stripe.

Like it’s been mentioned she said it was the “Holy of Holies” that she was going to “Church” and she ended up singing "Like a prayer". Now please tell me that this comparison doesn’t ring any bell, I am kind of astonished about it.  :? Yes it’s all just “entertainment” but look beyond and not just on the surface. They didn’t put up this show by chance; they chose this specific theme for a reason and when we analyze it and connect the dots, it all makes sense and it looked like a ritual.

I also found that the end when she disappears underground was very odd and disturbing. She figuratively went to hell for me. :? That’s how I saw it even if I wasn’t aware of anything Illuminati that would be the obvious meaning for me. How do you explain this part in a positive way?

It was very dark and not the beautiful darkness of a starry night. Doesn't it make you think of what we have been discussing? The two sides good/evil and the choice we have to make? Obviously Madonna has made a choice here because she chose to go underground, even if just in an entertainment form :? I mean that's what it means right?

[GINAFELICIA]

I agree Sarahli, it's not just entertainment. I wish people would dissociate themselves of shows that are not quite OK as symbolistics. I for one am not going to "swallow" the whole show just because some songs of her are good. It's not OK to me. See it's a snicky way to transmit a message -  wrapping it in some good music - people will be influenced by the hidden message without even realising it, because it's all wrapped nice.

No for me, sorry.

[SimPattyK]

Here below I quote in blue what I said IN FAVOR of Madonna at the beginning of this thread.
Please note that I left out everything that I wrote AGAINST Madonna.

Message 1
SimPattyK: "Chapeau bas Madonna!!  the Artist!! She did a great job! I always loved Madonna, her music, her shows, her videos! She's really a great artist, great entertainer! She's a beautiful woman, very original and very courageous to show a sexy , even vulgar side, without being dis-gracious!! She conquered me with her brave optimistic character. And IMO, Lady Gaga is nothing but a grotesque and poor, pathetic copy of Madonna. Though: I will not commit the mistake to compare Michael to Madonna. (or vice-versa) Nor have I ever compared Elvis to Michael (or vice-versa) They simply CANNOT be compared!!! Nevertheless they are all VALUABLE artists and no one, objective enough, can deny this!"
^^ Here I cut out an even bigger part of my message where I criticized Madonna. (read the whole message You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login )

Message 2 (in reply to Gina's message: "There's nothing a her that makes me feel a good vibration.")
SimPattyK:  "I remember how many of her songs made me feel happy and feel like dancing right then and there as I heard them! I think that all in all this is the purpose of music: to make you feel happy (even if you don't have any specific reason), to make you wanna move, dance, jump for joy!! Just like Michael's music, Madonna's songs also pushed me more towards learning the English language, I liked them so much that I really wanted to be able to sing them and understand the lyrics...That's just another positive thing that came from her music to me... and it will never get out of my head. I really have some very beautiful memories on her songs! My all time Madonna favorite is true Blue! I'm telling you I am dancing on my chair right now as I type this! this song just puts me in that state! at one point years ago, I had learned all the choreography of this video by heart! loll  :lol: not to mention the "Vogue-hands movement" lmao "You'll see" - This song is also one of my VERY favs! and she is also very beautiful in this video - this is actually my fav Madonna look! She never looked better than in this video, not before nor after!"
^^ Here I cut out the 3 videos of Madonna and another part of my message where I criticized her again. (read the whole message You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login )


SO from my 16 lines(^^in blue), that I DARED to write in favor of Madonna on this hateful negative thread, here's how the user thrillerdancinmachin reacts to me:  :shock:

thrillerdancinmachin   "Yes, I know all about what goes into a show and effects and rehearsals, wich is why I know she has worked hard, and appreciate the technical skill of my fellow dancers. I disagree with the above statements. 14-year old boys entertain themselves all day with their penises, but to give someone credit as a "great artist" and "entertainer" in the same sentence with MJ and Elvis who essentially delivers the same masturbatory sensation is indicative of the point I brought up; truly great artists like MJ should be given the attention they MERIT and people should have higher expectations. Many of us noticed that after the Superbowl in 3, when Michael lused hi worldwide audience to promote the message "Heal the World," directed toward children, and it could not be denied he was a figure of tremendous power to inspire people to take it upon themselves to change and empower themselves, MJ was taken down and the attacks never let up. There is no "mistake: in noting the difference between his legacy and what we were just served last night resembling a ceremony at Bohemian Grove. I am not a Christian and preoccupied with "anti-christ" dogma. I just think I have a taste level and awareness of what is behind the scenes in the "industry" and politics, and I'm just making the observation that the music industry, government, religion, are in fact highly controlled by the money interests who decide who they will train as a monkey to dance for the people and distract them, and who will serve the purpose of achieving their agenda, whatever that ends up being. Madonna was put in the place she is not because of talent or hard work, that is obvious to any "objective," savvy observer. She stated, while we truly dedicated dancers were really working and taking any job we could get, that she did not want to be dancer because there was no money in it. She has been supported every step of the way by doing exactly what her handlers want her to do. Michael's spirit compelled him to reach beyond that. It is worth noting this because Michael should have been performing the last decade of his life in those venues, but he was a threat to their power structure as he himself stated many times, and he was replaced by what we saw last night and either gotten rid of as his family has openly claimed, or he outsmarted them. Anyone who lives in Hollywood or been in the industry finds this out in a week, or they are not privy to the circles that control what we see.
There is a great deal to compare between Elvis and Michael. It has been addressed on this site in great length. It is also fair to discuss Michael and Prince; both great artists. But the reason most people here are MJ fans is that he was beyond compare. I wasn't comparing Michael and Madonna or "bashing" her, just stating my observations. Michael did not like Madonna either for the same reasons I mentioned. Bette Midler is a great artist and entertainer who did outrageous, shocking, and what some consider vulgar things, but iit was with intelligence and wit. She also mocked Madonna and did not take her seriously.
The point I am bringing up is that there is a thing called discernment, and just like watching porno all day long makes it difficult for men to develop relationships with real women because they expect women to serve their compulsions and be distorted versions of who they really are, watching the circus the controlled media brainwashes you with over the years disguising it as "entertainment" programs you into accepting that as desirable in place of something higher. And they use it to instill their message into your mind. The way Michael used his TRUE talent and power to instill a totally different message. I'm just here to march in MJ's army of L.O.V.E. and not Madonna's Roman procession to the N.W.O.  Bilderberger meeting, just sayin. Peace."


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The conclusive point is, thrillerdancinmachin you opened a thread about Madonna.
Regardless of the thread-subject and regardless of the real intent of the thread-author, everybody is entitled to an opinion and also to be treated with respect, regardless of what the opinion is.
The way you literally  jumped at my throat after I had dared to write my 16 lines in favor of Madonna, is everything BUT respectful nor civilized! And what you continued to say to me/us (the attacks on Tink) from there on ... well it totally passed way off the limits of  a normal conversation.

I don't know what happened... Maybe you didn't expect to see on your thread opinions that contradict yours. Maybe you expected that all of us hate Madonna as much as you obviously do. From the way you speak about her and the way you attack those who manifest the minimum preference for her, speaks volumes of the level of hatred and anger that you have inside....

I will not repeat my opinion about Madonna's show and the Illuminati stuff, but I definitely didn't see any comments here that can justify so much hatred towards her nor any other human being. I stand by my initial urge that led me to step in this thread in the first place, namely: I stand up for a positive balancing of everything. I don't like extremes nor exaggerations of any kind. And I definitely don't like to see anyone bashed and portrayed in an exaggerated, aggressive way, be it Madonna, Tink, myself or anyone else!

[SimPattyK]

@Applehead  bearhug