hello everyone i just joined after watching this forum since 2010

[Do]

Mattie I KNOW MJ is alive otherwise I wouldn't still be around I promise you that, but if I had to name you all the facts why I know he is alive I would never finish this post you just have to re-read some topics on this forum and add my personal experience in L.A that's all I have to say by now.

I'd like to add one more thing:
I'm reading here since september 2009 (MJKit) and I believe Mattie also so we read many, many topics.
What were your experiences (I know you talked about it, you were at the trial or hearings) that CONVINCED you he is alive and kicking?

[mattie]

O than i misunderstood Do.Sorry
i dont want to argue either  :smiley-vault-misc-150:

@ Sweet.
I also think/believe Michael is alive..but i cant say it for sure.
Because there is no proof of it,how can i say i know?
And to be honnest,the way it is going i dont know anything anymore.
I dont understand the purpose of it if it keeps on going like this.
And yes i am here from day one and i read everything..also al the TS postings.
That is why i dont get any of it anymore??

But i wish i had a bit of your confidence left,i would feel better about it!
I dont want to hurt you or anyone, if i did sorry i just speak my mind.

[speeddemon81]

WELCOME  :th_bravo:

[suspicious mind]

But do you KNOW Michael is alive or do you BELIEVE Michael is alive? That's a big difference too and when you are saying (like you usually do) that you KNOW he is alive, then you can't blaim someone else who says that he/she KNOWS somehow that Michael will be back this year. That's not fair, especially with the rolling eyes icon. quote from Do

But come on Do ( with respekt)..It makes a difference if you strongly believe that Michael is alive, based on the evidence that there is no proof of his death.
Or you talk like your in the know first hand,like you drink tea with Michael himself every morning or so.
Thats how Anonymous sounded to me?

 I also thougt(believed) that Michael was planning to come back for a long time..because i dont know why al the clues and the actions from the familie were good for :icon_e_confused: If Michael wanted to have a private life(and i dont blame him for that) Than al that happend until now makes no sense at all for me! there's a easier way to fake your death for a private life.
So i am now left wondering..What's the purpose of it all?
And i dont know what the  intentions of the Familie were? If there is no come back(and i dont believe in one anymore) What were they thinking?

I am stil watching because i cant believe it ends this way,and i cant believe people lead us on this way?
But i dont know what else there is left to think.
This is my opinion afcourse

+1

[Do]

O than i misunderstood Do.Sorry
i dont want to argue either  :smiley-vault-misc-150:

@ Sweet.
I also think/believe Michael is alive..but i cant say it for sure.
Because there is no proof of it,how can i say i know?
And to be honnest,the way it is going i dont know anything anymore.
I dont understand the purpose of it if it keeps on going like this.
And yes i am here from day one and i read everything..also al the TS postings.
That is why i dont get any of it anymore??

But i wish i had a bit of your confidence left,i would feel better about it!
I dont want to hurt you or anyone, if i did sorry i just speak my mind.

 :bearhug: don't be sorry, wij waren toch niet aan het ruziemaken! Xx

[diggyon]

OMG  :icon_e_surprised:

I never thought that my question to sweetsunset would trigger all this!! I was only joking because everyone was claiming lately that they know about MJ's come back especially Anonymous! It seems that we are all in the know after all ! :LolLolLolLol:

[mattie]

O than i misunderstood Do.Sorry
i dont want to argue either  :smiley-vault-misc-150:

@ Sweet.
I also think/believe Michael is alive..but i cant say it for sure.
Because there is no proof of it,how can i say i know?
And to be honnest,the way it is going i dont know anything anymore.
I dont understand the purpose of it if it keeps on going like this.
And yes i am here from day one and i read everything..also al the TS postings.
That is why i dont get any of it anymore??

But i wish i had a bit of your confidence left,i would feel better about it!
I dont want to hurt you or anyone, if i did sorry i just speak my mind.

 :bearhug: don't be sorry, wij waren toch niet aan het ruziemaken!

Hahaha Ik had niet eens in de gaten dat je Nederlands was :icon_e_geek:  :icon_lol:
Ik moet me ook zo concentreren om een beetje begrijpelijk over te komen in het Engels.
Maar ik denk dat wij toch een beetje gelijk denken  :beerchug:

[mattie]

OMG  :icon_e_surprised:

I never thought that my question to sweetsunset would trigger all this!! I was only joking because everyone was claiming lately that they know about MJ's come back especially Anonymous!It seems that we are all in the know after all ! ! :LolLolLolLol:

I am not  :Pulling_hair: Please tel me al about it, desperate by now :bowdown:  :icon_e_biggrin:

[Do]

O than i misunderstood Do.Sorry
i dont want to argue either  :smiley-vault-misc-150:

@ Sweet.
I also think/believe Michael is alive..but i cant say it for sure.
Because there is no proof of it,how can i say i know?
And to be honnest,the way it is going i dont know anything anymore.
I dont understand the purpose of it if it keeps on going like this.
And yes i am here from day one and i read everything..also al the TS postings.
That is why i dont get any of it anymore??

But i wish i had a bit of your confidence left,i would feel better about it!
I dont want to hurt you or anyone, if i did sorry i just speak my mind.

 :bearhug: don't be sorry, wij waren toch niet aan het ruziemaken!

Hahaha Ik had niet eens in de gaten dat je Nederlands was :icon_e_geek:  :icon_lol:
Ik moet me ook zo concentreren om een beetje begrijpelijk over te komen in het Engels.
Maar ik denk dat wij toch een beetje gelijk denken  :beerchug:

Heee landgenote, please don't worry about your english, you're perfectly understandable! I'm struggling too most of the time! For sure we think alike, I don't understand all of this anymore either, but I keep coming back/am still watching because, just like you, I believe there's more to come. Not sure it will be positive though :icon_e_sad:

On a positive note: I don't know where you live in Holland, but do you know there will be an European Jackson Event in Holland on April 20 in Reusel. I read about it on MJJcommunity.com.
Here's the link You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm still not sure if I'm going to go, I don't know if I'll enjoy such an event, not knowing what happened to Michael.
But maybe there are European members over here who like to meet each other. That would be great!!

[mattie]

I live in Zwolle.
That is  2 a 3 hours drive to Reusel i think.
But Reusel of al places, i made  friends there 4 years ago.
Last year i visit them..so i know were to stay. :icon_razz:
But before i never heard of the place.
I wil looke in to the link,if it is something for me?? i am already an oldie.
vieuw years older than Michael Jackson.
But thank you for the link.

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

OMG  :icon_e_surprised:

I never thought that my question to sweetsunset would trigger all this!! I was only joking because everyone was claiming lately that they know about MJ's come back especially Anonymous! It seems that we are all in the know after all ! :LolLolLolLol:

Actually I won't answer anybody else I'm done with it, if people is losing faith they'd better give up than spread negativity all over, it's beginning to be an ordeal for me reading on the forum now instead of a joy like it used to be.

[diggyon]

OMG  :icon_e_surprised:

I never thought that my question to sweetsunset would trigger all this!! I was only joking because everyone was claiming lately that they know about MJ's come back especially Anonymous! It seems that we are all in the know after all ! :LolLolLolLol:

Actually I won't answer anybody else I'm done with it, if people is losing faith they'd better give up than spread negativity all over, it's beginning to be an ordeal for me reading on the forum now instead of a joy like it used to be.

OMG are you mad at me? I really didn't mean to hurt you! It was just a funny question. I'm really sorry  :smiley-vault-misc-150:

[mattie]

OMG  :icon_e_surprised:

I never thought that my question to sweetsunset would trigger all this!! I was only joking because everyone was claiming lately that they know about MJ's come back especially Anonymous! It seems that we are all in the know after all ! :LolLolLolLol:

Actually I won't answer anybody else I'm done with it, if people is losing faith they'd better give up than spread negativity all over, it's beginning to be an ordeal for me reading on the forum now instead of a joy like it used to be.

Or it is me diggyon?

Hello Sweet.
Please dont take it so serious.
I told you i wish i had your faith,but wen i say  i do i lie.
I really believe Michael is alive, i only dont know what to think of the rest anymore.
Like i said i dont want to hurt anybody,especially you.
Maybe it is silent here to long?
If i write down what i think i cant be positive of it al. maybe i talk to much lately :icon_e_smile:,and it is better i am going in the watching mode again.

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

OMG  :icon_e_surprised:

I never thought that my question to sweetsunset would trigger all this!! I was only joking because everyone was claiming lately that they know about MJ's come back especially Anonymous! It seems that we are all in the know after all ! :LolLolLolLol:

Actually I won't answer anybody else I'm done with it, if people is losing faith they'd better give up than spread negativity all over, it's beginning to be an ordeal for me reading on the forum now instead of a joy like it used to be.

OMG are you mad at me? I really didn't mean to hurt you! It was just a funny question. I'm really sorry  :smiley-vault-misc-150:

Oh no Diggy I'm not mad at you or anybody else I'm just saying I won't answer if I believe or know if MJ is alive or dead if will come back or not, etc.. it will remain inside myself I lately feel the most nuts of all.

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

OMG  :icon_e_surprised:

I never thought that my question to sweetsunset would trigger all this!! I was only joking because everyone was claiming lately that they know about MJ's come back especially Anonymous! It seems that we are all in the know after all ! :LolLolLolLol:

Actually I won't answer anybody else I'm done with it, if people is losing faith they'd better give up than spread negativity all over, it's beginning to be an ordeal for me reading on the forum now instead of a joy like it used to be.

Or it is me diggyon?

Hello Sweet.
Please dont take it so serious.
I told you i wish i had your faith,but wen i say  i do i lie.
I really believe Michael is alive, i only dont know what to think of the rest anymore.
Like i said i dont want to hurt anybody,especially you.
Maybe it is silent here to long?
If i write down what i think i cant be positive of it al. maybe i talk to much lately :icon_e_smile:,and it is better i am going in the watching mode again.

It's ok I still love you!  :icon_lol: