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Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "suspicious mind"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "paula-c"Or maybe Gema Michael and LMP never married, they were only good friends, we have seen many legal personal documents Michael, we have not seen the marriage certificate, what we saw was an affidavit signed in the Dominican Republic and in that document says marriage was not made.I think that's absolutely a possibility. That marriage was one of the most unromantic ones I have ever seen, wasn't Mike chewing gum or something? I have the feeling that everytime I see gum-chewing, something is made up... Just as with the garbage cans.that is almost too strange not to be true :lol: Seriously... The gum chewing at the dancer's "auditions", the gum-chewing "Thaffa cool move" in TII (NOT MJ), the kids at the memorial and I am sure I have seen it more this past year. Haha, yeah.. it's like they all have to chew gum to keep from laughing... :lol:LOL, now that sounds like a plausible explanation.
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "suspicious mind"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "paula-c"Or maybe Gema Michael and LMP never married, they were only good friends, we have seen many legal personal documents Michael, we have not seen the marriage certificate, what we saw was an affidavit signed in the Dominican Republic and in that document says marriage was not made.I think that's absolutely a possibility. That marriage was one of the most unromantic ones I have ever seen, wasn't Mike chewing gum or something? I have the feeling that everytime I see gum-chewing, something is made up... Just as with the garbage cans.that is almost too strange not to be true :lol: Seriously... The gum chewing at the dancer's "auditions", the gum-chewing "Thaffa cool move" in TII (NOT MJ), the kids at the memorial and I am sure I have seen it more this past year. Haha, yeah.. it's like they all have to chew gum to keep from laughing... :lol:
Quote from: "suspicious mind"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "paula-c"Or maybe Gema Michael and LMP never married, they were only good friends, we have seen many legal personal documents Michael, we have not seen the marriage certificate, what we saw was an affidavit signed in the Dominican Republic and in that document says marriage was not made.I think that's absolutely a possibility. That marriage was one of the most unromantic ones I have ever seen, wasn't Mike chewing gum or something? I have the feeling that everytime I see gum-chewing, something is made up... Just as with the garbage cans.that is almost too strange not to be true :lol: Seriously... The gum chewing at the dancer's "auditions", the gum-chewing "Thaffa cool move" in TII (NOT MJ), the kids at the memorial and I am sure I have seen it more this past year.
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "paula-c"Or maybe Gema Michael and LMP never married, they were only good friends, we have seen many legal personal documents Michael, we have not seen the marriage certificate, what we saw was an affidavit signed in the Dominican Republic and in that document says marriage was not made.I think that's absolutely a possibility. That marriage was one of the most unromantic ones I have ever seen, wasn't Mike chewing gum or something? I have the feeling that everytime I see gum-chewing, something is made up... Just as with the garbage cans.that is almost too strange not to be true :lol:
Quote from: "paula-c"Or maybe Gema Michael and LMP never married, they were only good friends, we have seen many legal personal documents Michael, we have not seen the marriage certificate, what we saw was an affidavit signed in the Dominican Republic and in that document says marriage was not made.I think that's absolutely a possibility. That marriage was one of the most unromantic ones I have ever seen, wasn't Mike chewing gum or something? I have the feeling that everytime I see gum-chewing, something is made up... Just as with the garbage cans.
Or maybe Gema Michael and LMP never married, they were only good friends, we have seen many legal personal documents Michael, we have not seen the marriage certificate, what we saw was an affidavit signed in the Dominican Republic and in that document says marriage was not made.
I tend to laugh at inappropriate times... :lol:
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"I tend to laugh at inappropriate times... :lol:Oh yeah, I have the same. Very embarassing sometimes...
Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"I tend to laugh at inappropriate times... :lol:Oh yeah, I have the same. Very embarassing sometimes...Very! Especially when you just can NOT stop! :lol:
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"Quote from: "~Souza~"Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"I tend to laugh at inappropriate times... :lol:Oh yeah, I have the same. Very embarassing sometimes...Very! Especially when you just can NOT stop! :lol:I know... I had it last week at the dentist. I have a hole in my wisdom tooth (well, they are all 4 not really how they should be anymore) and it was badly infected, so they had to make a cut in my gum to ... well ya know. And I was so nervous (I am scared stiff because I never had any dental work done before, so I didn't know what to expect) and because of my nerves I had to laugh and I couldn't stop. Not very handy when you have to say AAAAAAH, I can tell you that. Now they have to get pulled (all 4 of them :shock: ) so I hope I can think of something then... Chewing gum doesn't seem to be an option :lol: Anyways, going off-topic again...
Is LMP not in England now? :?
IDK, but I have a gut feeling that LMP is more involved in this hoax than we think and I also believe that she loved MJ and he loved her back but for some reasons that relation did not work and I get the impression, even if I don´t know her personally, that it could have been because of other issues non related to her really. Who knows! may be too much pressure from her family, idk.All this makes me think that LMP is not opposing to Eliza´s case to be solved. I mean, that woman, Eliza, just wants to prove that Vernon is her father. Why would LMP opposed to that?Regardless what many people may think about LMP, I see her as a warm hearted woman, really, may be confused in the past or troubled for whatever reasons, but I can´t perceive her as a bad person with "hidden agendas" to harm anyone.So, no, LMP is not opposing Eliza´s lawsut imo.
CORRUPT...MIND CONTROL/BRAIN WASHING...CULT...IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEYYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginTravolta, Cruise and other celebrities con fans and mediaFACTNet alert October 15, 1998A director of FACTNet recently spent 20 hours interviewing former high-level Scientologist Jesse Prince . Jesse was second in command of all Scientology's operations worldwide. In these conversations, Jesse disclosed information never previously revealed on Scientology's celebrities.The following synopsis on Scientology's celebrities is a condensation of information from Jesse Prince and other Scientology defectors.Celebrities' Endorsements of Scientology a ScamScientology's celebrities are running a global scam on their fans and on the media. Stars like John Travolta, Tom Cruise, Chick Corea, Kirstie Alley, Nicole Kidman, Kelly Preston, Priscilla Presley, Lisa Presley, and others are secretly being given lucrative compensation for endorsing Scientology. In the recent film The Truman Show, Truman's wife incessantly pitched ads for household items, while her unaware husband was convinced she was simply stating her sincere fondness for the goods. In the same way, star Scientologists have betrayed their fans and hoodwinked interviewers by acting as though glowing endorsements of Scientology are strictly from the heart, of their own accord, and certainly not paid Scientology advertisements.In reality, Scientology's celebrities are compensated richly for endorsements with:Free Scientology services costing up to $1,000 dollars per hour. John Travolta alone has had in excess of $100,000 of free services in compensation. Commissions of up to 10% for bringing people into Scientology (who subsequently pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for Scientology's services). One or more Scientology staff being sent to travel full time with celebrities as "support," at Scientology's expense. Free luxury accommodations and carte blanc use of the finest Scientology facilities and properties. Scientology's current leader David Miscavige learned that after Tom Cruise divorced Mimi Rogers, he was persuing Nicole Kidman. Miscavige also learns that Cruise has a fantasy of running through a field of tall wheat grass with Kidman. So, Miscavige orders a section of Scientology's desert compound in Giman Hot Springs to be plowed under and planted with wheat. At a cost of tens of thousands of dollars, and through the slave labor of cult members who work all day and all night for weeks, a field of tall wheat grass is grown in the desert so that Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman may run though it. During their visit, Cruise and Kidman are provided the additional luxuries of a specially prepared suite, maids, and two four-star chefs, all at scientology's expense as a quid pro quo exchange for Cruise's endorsements of Scientology. Marriages and Divorces ArrangedScientology actively helps arrange celebrities' divorces and marriages when Scientology deems them beneficial to Scientology.Scientology arranged Tom Cruise's entire divorce from Mimi Rogers for no charge. The cult knows Cruise is dyslectic and has difficulty reading and so "convinced" him to let them handle his bookkeeping and the divorce from Mimi Rogers. Orchestrating this divorce was important to Scientology because Rogers was disaffected from Scientology; thus it was in Scientology's interest to distance Cruise from her. In managing the divorce for Cruise, Scientology still had enough influence over Mimi Rogers to convince her to accept a relatively paltry $10 million for the settlement. :ugeek: Scientology also helped Lisa Marie Presley arrange her marriage to Michael Jackson. The idea was to make Jackson a Scientologist so he would become a recruiter and bring large numbers of youth into Scientology. While she was working on Michael Jackson, Presley inconveniently was already married, and to a Scientologist staff member. Scientology quickly ordered a divorce, so the Michael Jackson recruiting plan could go forward. :ugeek: DIRTY DEVILS. 8-) My other post which references Jesse Prince Affidavit; this quote is from this thread:You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"Quote from: "Glinda"I wonder, why does Priscilla and Lisa Marie still go to SC ?[youtube:1l2xszp6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2_rZIgrQI[/youtube:1l2xszp6]This is till scary to me.Ok so I did some digging on this subject because I have felt in my gut for along time that Scientology is DIRTY and a EVIL/CULT. I also feel that they are a MIND CONTROL type of CHURCH/CULT.When Tom kept referring to KSW, I was curious as to what he was meaning so I did a search and found the following info:Affidavit of Jesse Prince (20 August 1999)You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginEXCERPT:7. Some of my specific duties as Deputy Inspector General, External, included supervising all litigation by or against any Scientology organization, intelligence and covert operations brought against perceived or imagined "enemies", trademark registrations, and the licensing of trademarks to other Scientology corporations to create the false impression of "corporate integrity". I was also in charge of the "Celeb Project," which ran all auditing of Scientology celebrities, such as John Travolta, Priscilla Presley, Kirstie Alley, Anne Archer, and Chick Corea to name a few. I was also the auditor for David Miscavige and his wife, Shelly. I was the course instructor for all of the auditing courses for Alain Kartuzinski and his Cramming Officer for Class 10, 11, and 12, 12 being the highest level an auditor can reach.ALSO:11. By Scientology standards, I was a very highly trained auditor and case supervisor. An auditor in Scientology is a trained practitioner of the pseudo scientific methodology of psychological counseling commonly referred to as "The Tech," as dictated and written by Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard. A case supervisor is also a trained auditor who reads the "auditing" records of every counseling session performed by an auditor to ensure "The Tech" was applied exactly. In Scientology there are 12 levels of auditor and case supervisor classification, each level being "higher" than the next. In this system, I was certified as a Class 9 Auditor and a certified Class 9 Case Supervisor.18. A "Pre-Clear" file is one of the several files kept on members. The Pre-Clear file is the file that includes all written records of all "confessionals" done by the member. This means that it includes not only the most self-damaging material, but it also reflects every problem the person might have had with the organization, including complaints. This Pre-Clear file grows with the person's tenure in Scientology.23. Members of Scientology are induced to confess to acts that, if not outright criminal, are embarrassing or possibly destructive to the person's job, marriage or profession. For example, shoplifting, adultery, masturbation, homosexuality, drug abuse, or any other potentially embarrassing or illegal matters are recorded. Members are urged to write down these compromising facts in their own handwriting, under the guise that it is a "religious confessional" for the member's good. The truth is that these "confessions" are kept to blackmail and extort members should they dare to speak out against Scientology. Members are also coerced to sign documents that are self-damaging in order to protect Scientology in case they dare to leave its control and speak the damaging truth. I know all this to be true, because I watched this done to others; I did it to others; and it was done to me.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThis is a book called A Piece of Big Blue SkyScientology, Dianetics, & L. Ron Hubbard Exposed.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginSo there is plenty of reasons WHY many celebs and especially Priscilla and Lisa Marie wouldn't be so quick to leave the Church.They are being black mailed and:Why are they dead, Scientology?You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login :ugeek: PeacePeace
Quote from: "Glinda"I wonder, why does Priscilla and Lisa Marie still go to SC ?[youtube:1l2xszp6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2_rZIgrQI[/youtube:1l2xszp6]This is till scary to me.Ok so I did some digging on this subject because I have felt in my gut for along time that Scientology is DIRTY and a EVIL/CULT. I also feel that they are a MIND CONTROL type of CHURCH/CULT.When Tom kept referring to KSW, I was curious as to what he was meaning so I did a search and found the following info:Affidavit of Jesse Prince (20 August 1999)You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginEXCERPT:7. Some of my specific duties as Deputy Inspector General, External, included supervising all litigation by or against any Scientology organization, intelligence and covert operations brought against perceived or imagined "enemies", trademark registrations, and the licensing of trademarks to other Scientology corporations to create the false impression of "corporate integrity". I was also in charge of the "Celeb Project," which ran all auditing of Scientology celebrities, such as John Travolta, Priscilla Presley, Kirstie Alley, Anne Archer, and Chick Corea to name a few. I was also the auditor for David Miscavige and his wife, Shelly. I was the course instructor for all of the auditing courses for Alain Kartuzinski and his Cramming Officer for Class 10, 11, and 12, 12 being the highest level an auditor can reach.ALSO:11. By Scientology standards, I was a very highly trained auditor and case supervisor. An auditor in Scientology is a trained practitioner of the pseudo scientific methodology of psychological counseling commonly referred to as "The Tech," as dictated and written by Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard. A case supervisor is also a trained auditor who reads the "auditing" records of every counseling session performed by an auditor to ensure "The Tech" was applied exactly. In Scientology there are 12 levels of auditor and case supervisor classification, each level being "higher" than the next. In this system, I was certified as a Class 9 Auditor and a certified Class 9 Case Supervisor.18. A "Pre-Clear" file is one of the several files kept on members. The Pre-Clear file is the file that includes all written records of all "confessionals" done by the member. This means that it includes not only the most self-damaging material, but it also reflects every problem the person might have had with the organization, including complaints. This Pre-Clear file grows with the person's tenure in Scientology.23. Members of Scientology are induced to confess to acts that, if not outright criminal, are embarrassing or possibly destructive to the person's job, marriage or profession. For example, shoplifting, adultery, masturbation, homosexuality, drug abuse, or any other potentially embarrassing or illegal matters are recorded. Members are urged to write down these compromising facts in their own handwriting, under the guise that it is a "religious confessional" for the member's good. The truth is that these "confessions" are kept to blackmail and extort members should they dare to speak out against Scientology. Members are also coerced to sign documents that are self-damaging in order to protect Scientology in case they dare to leave its control and speak the damaging truth. I know all this to be true, because I watched this done to others; I did it to others; and it was done to me.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThis is a book called A Piece of Big Blue SkyScientology, Dianetics, & L. Ron Hubbard Exposed.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginSo there is plenty of reasons WHY many celebs and especially Priscilla and Lisa Marie wouldn't be so quick to leave the Church.They are being black mailed and:Why are they dead, Scientology?You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login :ugeek: Peace
I wonder, why does Priscilla and Lisa Marie still go to SC ?[youtube:1l2xszp6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2_rZIgrQI[/youtube:1l2xszp6]This is till scary to me.