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Other Odd Things / Us (2019) movie *SPOILERS*
« on: March 31, 2019, 04:52:38 AM »
Something I found interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing this film.

Us 2019




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Synopsis: A family's serenity turns to chaos when a group of doppelgängers begins to terrorize them.


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Jordan Peele Explains the Meaning Behind the ‘Us’ Michael Jackson Reference

Jordan Peele’s horror movie “Us” is filled with pop culture references, from “Jaws” to “Goonies.” But the most divisive might be right in his opening sequence. Warning, minor spoilers ahead.

The movie about a couple (played by Lupita Nyong’o and Winston Duke) and their children being hunted and brutalized by a mysterious family that looks just like them opens with a scene from the 1980s. Nyong’o’s character is a little girl when her dad wins her a “Thriller” T-shirt from a game booth at an amusement park.

She puts on the T-shirt just before she wanders into a house of a mirrors — a decision that will imprint on the character’s life forever.

This “Thriller” throwback surfaces shortly after HBO’s documentary “Leaving Neverland,” centered around Jackson’s alleged sexual abuse of underage boys. The film lead to many fans calling for a boycott of Michael Jackson’s music.

Did the current controversy create a conversation between the studio and the director?

“No,” Peele told Variety’s Elizabeth Wagmeister earlier this week at the New York City premiere of “Us.”

“No, we start in the eighties and it’s an image of well documented duality and the film is about duality,” Peele said, adding that this nod is, “a tone-setter, and I think it sets a chilling tone, but one of much duality.”

One of the film’s central themes is human duality and the battle between good and evil. “This movie is about the fact that we are our own worst enemy,” Peele told Variety earlier this month at the South by Southwest premiere of the film.


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It's also worth noting that the doppelgängers wear one glove throughout.



The whole duality theme, doppelgängers, Michael Jackson references are interesting, don't you think??

Plot from Wikipedia

In 1986, young Adelaide Thomas goes on vacation with her parents in Santa Cruz. At the beach, Adelaide wanders off and enters a funhouse, where she encounters a doppelgänger of herself in the funhouse's hall of mirrors. Adelaide is later reunited with her parents, although unable to speak.

In the present day, a now adult Adelaide heads to her family's beach house in Santa Cruz with her husband Gabe Wilson and their children, Zora and Jason. Adelaide, remembering the traumatic incident from her youth, is apprehensive about the trip; Gabe, eager to impress their friends Josh and Kitty Tyler, purchases a boat and brushes off Adelaide's concerns. At the beach, Jason wanders off and sees a man in a red jumpsuit standing alone in the sand with his arms outstretched and blood dripping from his hands. He does not tell his family about the man, but later draws a picture of him.

Later that night, a strange family of four appears in the driveway of the beach house. Gabe attempts to intimidate them, but they attack him and break into the home. The Wilsons realize that the four intruders are doppelgängers of themselves, led by Adelaide's double, Red. Each of them are wearing the same jumpsuit as the man on the beach, and Jason's doppelgänger Pluto is wearing a white skintight mask. Red, the only doppelgänger who speaks, tells the Wilsons the story of a girl who lives a happy life while her shadow suffers.

The family is then separated by their opposites: Red makes Adelaide handcuff herself to a table, Zora is pursued out of the house by Umbrae, Gabe is dragged outside and onto the boat by Abraham, and Jason is sent to "play" with Pluto in a closet.

While chasing Zora, Umbrae is interrupted by an investigating neighbor, whom she stabs with a pair of golden scissors; this distraction allows Zora to escape. Gabe is able to kill Abraham with his boat's malfunctioning motor, while Jason discovers that Pluto mirrors his actions almost exactly. Jason is able to distract Pluto with a magic trick and escapes, leaving Pluto locked in the closet. Red is drawn to Pluto's cries, allowing Adelaide time to break free. The family regroups and escapes on Gabe's boat.

Meanwhile, the Tylers are also murdered by a set of doubles shortly before the Wilsons arrive. The Wilsons kill the Tylers' doubles and turn on the local news to see that millions of doppelgängers, who call themselves "the Tethered", have been committing murders against their real counterparts throughout the United States. The doppelgängers subsequently join hands together to form a massive human chain, which the newscasters speculate is a form of protest.

The Wilsons drive away in the Tylers' car until they are attacked by Umbrae, who is killed after being launched into a tree following a skirmish on top of the vehicle. As day breaks, the Wilsons arrive at the Santa Cruz boardwalk, where they find their own abandoned car on fire. Pluto has set a trap to kill the Wilsons by lighting a gasoline trail to the Tylers' car, but Jason, remembering that Pluto mirrors his every move, walks backward so that Pluto steps into the burning car and is killed. Red then reappears and abducts Jason.

While Zora and Gabe recuperate in an abandoned ambulance, Adelaide returns to the boardwalk funhouse and walks through a secret tunnel in the hall of mirrors. This leads to an underground facility overrun by rabbits, where Adelaide finds Red. Red states that the Tethered were created by the U.S. government in an attempt to control the public, but the experiment failed and the Tethered were abandoned underground. For generations, the Tethered were trapped beneath the surface, doing nothing but mimicking the actions of their above-ground counterparts until Red organized them to escape. The two fight and Adelaide manages to kill Red. She finds Jason hidden in a nearby locker and promises him that things will return to normal.

The family reunites and drives away in the ambulance. As they leave town, Adelaide thinks back to the night she first met Red in the funhouse, revealing that she is, in fact, one of the Tethered, and had taken Adelaide's place in the surface world after knocking her out and trapping her in the underground complex. Jason watches her apprehensively, while across the United States the Tethered join hands.

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NE-YO
DON'T COMPARE R. KELLY TO MJ, PLEASE
... ONLY PROOF FOR 1 OF 'EM

Ne-Yo doesn't think allegations against R. Kelly are comparable to allegations against Michael Jackson -- they're worse.

We got the R&B singer Wednesday night at LAX ... and he jumped on the comparison, noting, unlike R. Kelly, there was no video evidence of Michael Jackson abusing anyone.

Ne-Yo also claimed some of Jackson's accusers recanted after the singer's death. He did not mention that Jackson paid $20 million to settle the sexual assault lawsuit filed by Jordan Chandler's parents.

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Ne-Yo says he never looked at the video of R. Kelly urinating on a minor when he toured with the singer. He just assumed the vid wasn't real. He now regrets it and says he sees things differently now that he has a daughter.

MJ is the subject of a new documentary premiering at Sundance detailing his alleged sexual abuse of little boys, something that has enraged the Michael Jackson Estate.

For the record ... both Michael and Kelly were found not guilty in sexual assault criminal trials.

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THE actor who brought Freddie Mercury back to life on the big screen is now tipped to play Michael Jackson.


Rami Malek is among the favourites to land a Golden Globe tonight and an Oscar next month for his portrayal of the Queen frontman.

His movie Bohemian Rhapsody has already become the highest earning music biopic in history, taking more than £565million so far.


And it has received such rave reviews that Jackson’s family are insisting Rami plays the Thriller star in a new film.

A draft of the movie has been penned, reportedly with the approval of Jackson’s estate.

It is being offered to the highest bidder among the major studios.

Now the family wants Rami to complete the picture by leading the cast.



A source close to Michael’s mother Katherine Jackson, now 88, said: “She has long dreamed of a movie being made that really captures her most famous son and was completely enthralled by Rami.

“Her sons Tito and Jermaine managed to get an early copy of Bohemian Rhapsody and they played it for Katherine in the screening room at her home.

“She didn’t care too much for the story of Freddie Mercury’s life, but she was completely charmed by Rami. She feels he has that same childlike quality Michael always possessed.”



The other former Jackson 5 members Marlon and Jackie agree that Rami, 37, who is the son of Egyptian immigrants to the US, could handle playing Michael.

The King of Pop’s singing sisters Janet, La Toya and Rebbie are also on board, according to the family friend, as are his children Michael Jr, 21, Paris, 20, and Prince Michael Jackson II, 16, also known as Blanket.

The pal added: “I’m surprised none of Michael’s own kids has raised any objection yet. They’re usually the first to complain if they think any project might even slightly tarnish their father’s legacy.”



A Hollywood expert said: “Whichever studio wins the rights to an authorised Michael Jackson biopic will be hoping the executors of his estate will plough in tens of millions, maybe more, as co-producers.

“This will mean a sizeable share of profits will eventually go back to the estate.

“It will also mean the film will almost certainly play down every negative aspect of Michael’s life, from his child molestation trial to near-bankruptcy.

“But that isn’t going to bother Michael’s fans around the world – any more than it bothered viewers of Bohemian Rhapsody that the film quickly glossed over Freddie Mercury’s agonising death from AIDS.”

Malek’s performance as Mercury has earned him a best actor nomination at tonight’s Golden Globes.

Bohemian Rhapsody is among the contenders for best motion picture.

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Other Odd Things / Are these 2 different people?
« on: January 04, 2019, 05:25:19 PM »
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The Best 'Masked Singer' Fan Theories for Mystery Performers on Wild and Weird Premiere



The judges guessed Lady Gaga and Hugh Jackman ... but we're being a little more realistic.

"The Masked Singer" had Twitter going crazy on Wednesday night, as six mystery celebrities sang their hearts out while donning some totally insane getups.

It was up to the show's judges -- Nicole Scherzinger, Jenny McCarthy, Robin Thicke and Ken Jeung -- to try and guess who was hiding under those masks after they all performed, but we have a feeling most of their predictions were way off base. There's no way people like Hugh Jackman, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber would ever pop up on this show, but that didn't stop the judges from dropping their names throughout the premiere.

At the end of the hour, the weakest performer of the bunch was revealed to be Pittsburgh Steelers WR Antonio Brown, who sang Bobby Brown's "My Prerogative" while dressed as a hippo. Yeah, it's a wild show.

We're breaking down the most promising social media guesses for each of the remaining five performers below, starting with the proud Peacock.

Peacock:

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During this singer's introduction package, he revealed a "love of the spotlight," adding that he had been performing since he was five. The judges noted the "Vegas vibes" coming from the video, as he also said he'd be considered a heartthrob for a lot of moms out there.

This performer also called Michael Jackson a "dear friend" and considers himself to be a "showman." His song of choice reflected that, as he sang "The Greatest Show" from "The Greatest Showman," leading Jenny McCarthy to guess that it could actually be Hugh Jackman.


LOL. Sure. Whatever, you say, Jenny.

Scherzinger said she got "magician vibes" from him as well, prompting her to ask if he's ever been part of a magic act. "I have never been mauled by a tiger, but I have been part of a magic act," he revealed. That led Jeung to guess Teller of Penn and Teller.

Penn Jillette, however, is actually the one and only guess for Peacock on the show's official website.

The best guess for this one though is Donny Osmond. The longtime performer was easily considered a heartthrob back in the day, made his TV debut on The Andy Williams Show when he was five, has a history with MJ and performed in Vegas. Also, just listen to that voice!

Other online predictions: Shawn Cassidy, Jack Black (never!) and David Hasselhoff.

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Video of the celebrity giving his 'clues' and where he mentions MJ:
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Other Odd Things / New MJ Hologram 2018 (in Asia)
« on: December 31, 2018, 09:27:45 AM »
 :Not-Talking: :Scared:

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Messages to Michael / To Michael
« on: December 16, 2018, 05:09:55 PM »
Zzzzzz
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Revisiting Old Stuff / Death Certificates- spot the differences
« on: November 27, 2018, 03:48:32 PM »
MJ's death certificate 2009




Stan Lee (R.I.P) 2018



Liz Taylor (R.I.P) 2011



You might think, well they updated the format/layout/boarder since 2009...

Brittany Murphy (R.I.P) 2009



I can't find any death certificates like Michael's. Can you? Does anyone have a reasonable explanation for this that I'm not realising?

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Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch at risk as California fire rages
THE California wildfires are raging towards Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch as thousands are evacuated from homes on the west coast.

Officials have ordered the mass evacuation of the California beachside community of Malibu as a massive wildfire rages towards it.

The fire broke out Thursday northwest of Los Angeles and roared southward, jumping the US 101 freeway early Friday and sweeping into the Santa Monica Mountains.

The Los Angeles County Fire Department said the fire is headed to the ocean, punctuating the message with the declaration: "Imminent threat!"

That and another wildfire raging west of Los Angeles had already forced thousands of people to leave their homes.

The flames are being driven by Southern California's notorious Santa Ana winds.

Voluntary evacuations of 75,000 homes were called for because of the Woolsey Fire that affected parts of Thousand Oaks in Ventura County northwest of Los Angeles, the site of a shooting massacre this week.

The fire's pathway is veering terrifyingly close to Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch, near Santa Barbara

The ranch has recently been renovated and has been up for sale for three years at $67 million.

It comes as Hollywood stars were revealed among those who have been told to "get out now" while the blaze rages across the state.



The Woolsey blaze was also burning in parts of Los Angeles County, where mandatory evacuation orders were given Friday morning south of US Highway 101, the Los Angeles County Fire Department said.

The fire had jumped Highway 101 in several places, including Calabasas and Agoura Hills, and was moving southwards toward coastal Malibu, Malibu Search and Rescue said in a post on Twitter.

Parts of that major freeway were closed in Los Angeles and Ventura counties, fire officials said.

The fire ignited Thursday afternoon south of the city of Simi Valley, Ventura County officials said.

Also burning in Ventura County was the Hill Fire, which had torched 10,000 acres (4047 hectares) by Thursday night, fire officials said.

In Northern California, the Camp Fire advanced rapidly to the outskirts of the city of Chico early on Friday, forcing thousands to flee after it left the nearby town of Paradise in ruins, California fire officials said.

Evacuation notices were set for homes on the east side of Chico, a city of about 93,000 people about 90 miles (145 km) north of Sacramento.

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PRESIDENT TRUMP SIGNS NEW MUSIC LAW ...
Kanye Just Misses It

President Trump was surrounded by a ton of music greats at the White House Thursday morning, as he signed a new law that will benefit many of them ... but Kanye West was not in on the fun.
POTUS signed the Music Modernization Act with John Rich, Kid Rock and several other artists standing by to make speeches about the new law, and also to witness the actual signing.

It all went down moments before Kanye's luncheon with 45 was scheduled to begin, so everyone expected Ye to join the other artists ... but he got to the White House juuuust a bit late.
As we told you ... Kanye is there now -- he didn't come empty-handed -- and the lunch meeting with the Prez, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner and Jim Brown is set to begin.
Stand by for fireworks ... and photo ops.


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Janet Jackson / Janet Jackson at The Global Citizen Festival
« on: September 30, 2018, 10:19:01 AM »
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Interesting moments:
Naomi Campbell introduces Janet (we know of Naomi and Michael's connection from her work on the In The Closet music video)
Lots of imagery at the beginning reminding me of MJ, Symbolism, politics etc
Janet starts her set by singing part of scream, "Oh my God, can't believe what I saw on the TV this evening, I was disgusted by all the injustice, All the injustice"
There is a really WEIRD bit at 6:09:40 where she does this pre recorded bit in black and white where it looks like she is smearing blood all over her face (it's lipstick) and she's crying. Then it goes into a song and she says "Don't let anyone manipulate you, control you or use you" then you can hear loud ambulance/police sirens playing as the song starts.
At one point when she is smearing stuff on her face she puts her finger to her lips insinuating a secret
The look in the black & white segment reminds me very much of MJs aesthetic in "In the closet"
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6:20:50 the song scream starts with Michael in the background , she says "let's go mike!"
When her part starts, to me (anyone remember those VMAS) it sounds like Michael is singing and not Janet. Or at least is sounds very different to her voice for the rest of the set.
At the end of Scream, Janet talks about double standards for men and women and bigotry and prejudice in general and that she's disgusted by it.


Wondering if anyone else watched and if they noticed anything weird?


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Others / Alfonzo Jones
« on: September 25, 2018, 02:36:05 PM »
I was watching Tiger Believe's latest video and in it they mention Alfonzo Jones, who apparently did backing vocals on Behind The Mask.

Did you guys know about Alfonzo Jones? His look and voice is so much like MJ is is weird. SERIOUSLY check out his music. Apparently came out the same time of thriller.

The rest is copied from a blog (link at bottom).

"Who Is Alfonzo Jones?



Lest we be forget–distracted, perhaps, by all the discussion of BAD25–on this date 30 years ago, Michael Jackson‘s landmark Thriller album was released and would go on to change the face of pop culture. Around the same time, a young afro’d man by the name of Alfonzo Jones released his debut self-titled album. The similiarities between the two albums don’t stop at their album covers.  Take one listen to Alfonzo, especially the album’s single “Change The World,” and you’ll immediately notice how much Jones sounds–at times eerily–like Michael Jackson.

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Jones obviously studied Jackson’s vocal technique as you can frequently hear similar phrasing and vocal riffs (down to MJ’s trademarked “HOO!”), but Jackson would probably never have added songs like “Your Booty Makes Me Moody” or “I Wanna Give You My Love Til You Scream” to his repertoire. Not that “Booty” or “Scream” are awful songs, they just would have seemed awkward coming from the King Of Pop.

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We’ve been unable to track down a firm release date for the album, but all signs are pointing to somewhere between October and December of 1982.  Considering that Thriller was released towards the end of that range, we gotta wonder: Who bit who’s album cover?

Information on Jones, who released Alfonzo on LARC Records out of California (whose other releases ironically include Latoya Jackson‘s boogie classic “Betcha Gonna Need My Lovin”), is incredibly scarce on the web. We know that he was raised in South Central Los Angeles in the 1970s and was discovered by Motown producer Clay McMurray. We were also able to find that he released a second album in 1988 called Champion Of Love, which flirts with the then-still-fresh New Jack Swing sound.  But other than that?  Nada…

If anyone out there knows where Alfonzo is and how we can get in touch with him, hit us up!  We have questions (and concerns)…"

Blog:http://www.okayplayer.com/news/alfonzo-jones-michael-jackson-soundalike.html

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So I posted this in the general discussion section because I am not entirely sure if this related to the hoax or not. After reading Souza's theory about "The calm before the storm" I thought this might be something interesting to discuss but it also goes in a separate direction, and so didn't think it should be posted in that same thread. Please move if appropriate.

I have been following what's going on with Elon Musk for a while now. For those who don't know, Elon Musk is the CEO and founder  of Tesla and the lead designer of SpaceX.

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Elon is a controversial figure and has been in the news a lot recently and is currently being sued by the diver who rescued the kids that were trapped in the that cave, because Elon tweeted that he believes that the diver is a child rapist. I have no idea if it is true or not, but Elon seems determined on exposing pedophile rings. There was a lot of backlash against him, Musk built and developed a submarine in  attempt to help the mission to save the children trapped in the cave but he was criticised as using it for a publicity stunt.
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He's now being sued by the diver he accused of being a pedophile (not surprising) and Tesla is under investigation by the US justice department  for some other tweets he made about the company and wanting to make the company private.

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While ALL of this is currently going on, we learn yesterday that a Japanese billionaire called Yusaku Maezawa will be the first person to take the SpaceX voyage around the moon  in 2023. (Elon Musk is the lead designer for SpaceX).

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Yusaku is a big MJ fan.

"Maezawa says he was inspired by imagining what his favorite artists would have created if they had traveled to space. “What if Picasso had gone to the Moon? Or Andy Warhol or Michael Jackson or John Lennon?” he asked at the event. “What about Coco Chanel? These are all artists that I adore.”

Interestingly, Yusaku is going to be taking 8 artists with him to space.
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"I choose to go to the Moon, with artists.
If Pablo Picasso had been able to see the moon up-close,
what kind of paintings would he have drawn?
If John Lennon could have seen the curvature of the Earth,
what kind of songs would he have written?
If they had gone to space, how would the world have looked today?
People are creative and have a great imagination.
We all have the ability to dream dreams that have never been dreamt, to sing songs that have never been sung, to paint that which has never been seen before.
I hope that this project will inspire the dreamer within each of us.
Together with Earth's top artists, I will be heading to the moon... just a little earlier than everyone else.
I am truly blessed by this opportunity to become Host Curator of "#dearMoon".
I would like to thank Elon Musk and SpaceX for creating the opportunity to go around the moon in their BFR. I would also like to thank all those who have continuously supported me.
I vouch to make this project a success. Stay tuned!"

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We all know that Michael is famous for The Moonwalk, among other things, he also apparently according to Uri Geller, wanted to be the first pop star to visit the moon:

"Michael adored the concept of space travel — even his trademark dance was called the Moonwalk. And when the prospect of a rocket voyage to the moon itself became a brief, tantalising reality, Michael was like a rich kid in a sweet shop — he wanted it all and he wanted it now.

“I have an answerphone message, recorded at about 3am, with Michael’s whisper barely audible above the transatlantic crackle: ‘Uri Geller, this is Michael Jackson calling. Please, I wish, I pray that we do the moon trip. I want to be the first one to do it in the pop world. All these people are trying to do it, I want to be first! Please! I love you.’'

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(Paris also seems just as obsessed with space as her dad!)







All of this to say, I'm not sure what any of this is about, and if it relates to the hoax at all, but I find it very interesting, and I will be keeping an eye on it.

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