MysteriousMind - Chapter 4 (shocking)

[hesouttamylife]

Puts a whole new spin on orange pants dude!!

I love orange pants dude, but his moves were somewhat different, off :?   They were good, but not quite Michaelish.  There was another not quite Michael in This is it; the one that sang I just can't stop loving you.  The way he seemed unsure of where or how to put his hands when he was about to go into the embrace.  I'm not saying for sure that it wasn't Michael, but I've never seen Michael awkwardly go into an embrace.  He knows how to hold a woman.  Hands down.

[Infinitylady]

We must check every name in This Is It credits! Who knows, maybe we'll find more something strange.. like this  :?  :?

Pille,

You are right! You just never know!  So mannnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyy strange things been going on since June 2009!

[truthprevails]

Here are the full credits for TII:
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It's a LONG list.  If you look at the way in which the names and roles are written, it will become clear that David Bernal was a movement coach for Michael.  I'm sorry if that's hard to believe, but I don't think we should change the facts to make them fit what we want to believe.
For instance, the list contains the following:

Karen Faye - hair designer: Michael Jackson
Rushka Bergman - personal stylist: Michael Jackson
Seth Riggs - vocal consultant: Michael Jackson
David Elsewhere Bernal - movement coach: Michael Jackson (as David Bernal) [This means that he was credited as David Bernal - i.e. under that name.]
John Branca - legal counsel: Michael Jackson, Ziffren Brittenham LLP
David Byrnes - legal counsel: Michael Jackson, Ziffren Brittenham LLP
Lou Ferrigno - conditioning coach: Michael Jackson
Michael Kane - business manager: Michael Jackson
Thome R. Thome - personal advisor: Michael Jackson
Zaldy - costume designer: Michael Jackson
Brigitte Segal - tour manager: Michael Jackson
Irina Brecher - ballet instructor

Do you see what I'm trying to say?  I bolded the last one to show you that Bernal was not the only person hired to offer dance instruction/coaching.  And multiple people were credited as choreographers: MJ, Kenny Ortega, Travis Payne, Jonathon Rice + some assistant/associate choreographers.

Michael collaborated with other musicians... Why wouldn't he collaborate with other dancers?  He loved to learn from other people... And just as he learned from James Brown and Fred Astaire, maybe he thought he had something to learn from Bernal - who really seems to have a style of his own.

[AgentBJ]

I thought there were two red pants MJs, one for close-ups and one for distances.  Now I feel it could possibly be this elsewhere bloke in the distance shots.

Maybe three? The real MJ for the close-ups and then two orange pants "MJ"'s for the distances - the orange pants with the silver jacket and the another one with the hat, smooth criminal jackett and blue t-shirt.

[King_Michael]

Mind Fuck indeed  :lol:

[mjboogie]

I find those commercials made by Bernal looking kind of fake.. in the meaning that it's something that makes you say "well, it's something strange, it's a computer work here". In TII no. In TII everything looks, moves naturally. In Bernal's commercial you can see something "broken"  in the head-body relation. Like one of them is not ok. In TII no. I never agreed on the double theory and I think I won't be able to agree until someone helps us and gives us good explanations.

Agree with you Tarja I have watched that Bernal video a few times and some of the movements are broken u know? I kinda don't see that in TII?

BUT.....who is the daredevil here that is willing to contact our friend Kenny Ortega for some answers? Not :oops:  me

[ziibiin]

very interested !