As I have been sick whole week and had time to watch TII DVD extras Stagin the Return, I noticed couple of stange things.
We see O2-MJ (I call him that way as I am one of those that believes it was not MJ) with his team going out of the bus and then getting onto the golf-cart.
At the time of this scene the lady voice says:
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Michael Jackson’s here. Go straight on stage. It will be a 3 minutes video and a little bit of talk from Dermot, so that’s enought time to ring the dial.“
and then you see bits and pieces of O2-MJ with his team on their way to the stage.
So, nothing stange at the first sight but couple of things caught my attention:
Why the lady voice was played in the first place? were is it come from? was it a message, and if yes, to whom? - why the hell is she saying: „enought time to ring the dial“. Is this a message to the team to get on stage as soon as possible and by the way you can still make a phone call?
3 minutes and "a little bit of talk" to get on stage from getting out of the bus seems a little bit short in such a gigantic arena for, as Randy Philips said in the same film, „
the biggest press conference to announce a live entertainment project I have ever seen“. This is just my feeling rather then anything else, as I have no idea how this stuff is being managed.
Then you can also see two cuts with O2-MJ driving on the golf cart, then talking to the team and then walking, presumably to the stage. During the first cut with O2-MJ going on a cart, you can see WELCOME on the wall as they pass by, then a second later there is INTELLIGENCE written? What is this „welcome intelligence“?
I also checked subtitiles for this scene and surprisingly in English version (that presumably was the easiest and required no language adjustments) she is not saying DERMOT (O’Leary) but it is written DURHAM? I checked couple of other languages on DVD and its seems it is like 50/50 between Dermot and Durham depending on the language. I am not an English native but still can see the difference in pronaunciation of both?
So at this stage I had no idea if there is anything the above may relate to.
And then later in the Staging the Return, we have a Hamlet scene with the Light Man with Randy Philips saying: „It reminded him of Hamlet when Hamlet was contemplating his friend. The context of him seeing himself in Hamlet, to me it gives chills, because this is fantastic that he knew that and understood that and felt that that was part of the theatrical power that he was presenting“. So again, what the hell suddenly Hamlet has to do with all of this?
So trying to figure out the logic behind Hamlet, Hamlet’s play within the play concept cames up, which was used by Hamlet to expose the murder and conspiracy.
There is also a bit of Hamlet discussion in this thread apparently.
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LoginSo, assuming these are messages/clues and trying to connect the docts, what about the following:
When you google Durham (mistaken name in the subtitles), of course you can get houndreds of links, we also have Michael Durham Prince as sound editior for This is it, who then filed a claim againts MJ estate, but what I find the most intersting are the following connections:
The City of Durham UK (wrong name in subtitles) – University of Durham (welcome intelligence) – University Chancellor Bill Bryson – Bill Bryson book writer – Book: Shakespeare World as Stage – Hamlet in TII
Bill Bryson
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LoginThe Book: „Shakespeare World as Stage“
wiki on the book: „
Shakespeare: The World as a Stage is a biography of William Shakespeare by author Bill Bryson. The 199-page book is part of Harper Collins' series of biographies, "Eminent Lives". The focus of the book is to state what little is known conclusively about Shakespeare, and how this information is known, with some discussion of disproved theories, myths, and that which is believed by the public but not provable”.
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LoginSo, what if these are indeed clues: with WORLD AS STAGE – the play is going on just in front of everybody’s eyes and we have various PLAYS WITHIN THE PLAY to expose conspiracies?
Does it makes sense to you, or it is just far fetched coincidence?
Two other observations:
Place of recording:
I am having serious doubts that all of the backstage of O2 announcement that is shown in the Staging the Return was actually recorded in the O2 arena. I cannot see anything around O2-MJ and the team, the background in all of the cuts from allegdly O2 is always fully covered, it is either bus, with police car and the roof covering the background (you cannot see anything outside) then we have what seems to be long corridors with not much to be seen in the background besides the walls, and then in both cases when you see O2-MJ and the team (taking and walking) the background is fully covered by black curtain. It seems that it could have been recorded in any other place.
Lady's voice message:
Besides the Durham thing, what seems strange to me is the
„enough time to ring the dial“. What was it for? I am not native but I think it is not very common to say
„to ring the dial“ instead of to make a phone call? Of course I might be mistaken but going further with the ring the dial problem:
"Ring dial" - universal equinoctial ring dial (sometimes called a ring dial for brevity), sundial
wiki on sundial:
A sundial is a device that measures time by the position of the Sun. In common designs such as the horizontal sundial, the sun casts a shadow from its style (a thin rod or a sharp, straight edge) onto a flat surface marked with lines indicating the hours of the day. As the sun moves across the sky, the shadow-edge progressively aligns with different hour-lines on the plate. Such designs rely on the style being aligned with the axis of the Earth's rotation. Hence, if such a sundial is to tell the correct time, the style must point towards true north (not the north or south magnetic pole) and the style's angle with horizontal must equal the sundial's geographical latitude.You are not allowed to view links.
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Login So, here we have „time“ connected to the „ring dial“, so does it mean that timing of hoax follows the sun? In one of TIAI Updates we have references to sun movements for timing of death and memorial and the burial and full moon dates.
TIAI Update #4c: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-23. The 911 Call Was at 12:21
Whether you think MJ really died, or it’s all a hoax, everyone recognizes that the whole thing kicked off with a 911 phone call placed at 12:21 PM on 6-25-09. However, all the other timing was planned: death 77 days until 9-9-09; memorial on 7-7 (full moon), and 7 years from will; burial 7 days from 9-9-09 (and essentially full moon), etc. So is it possible that the timing of the 911 call was also planned? Yes, there are several ways to show that 12:21 was planned.
It looks like a mysterious fully crypted movie with agents trying to figure out the codes but after reading all of the TIAI updates I feel that there is much more to figure out that we have been able to figure out so far.
Sorry I am not able to upload Staging of Return onto my comp, but may try later to put some pics.
Would love to see your views on that.