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So, he is saying that because families aren't sharing meals they're becoming more distant and because there is no real communication between children and their parents this leaves the children vulnerable to being abused. I think it's a little to simplistic to suggest "family dinners" as a solution to child abuse, but you've got to start somewhere. Shmuley has always seemed to me like an opportunist and rather shady. But I've read a few of his books ("Hating Women: America's War on the fairer sex" is a pretty good one) and I agree with him on a lot of issues. He makes some good points.
Rabbi's pitch to pope: Use family dinners to defuse abuse crisisBy Dan Gilgoff, CNNRabbi Shmuley Boteach pitched his family dinners initiative to the pope as a way to defuse the sex abuse crisis.(CNN) -- A rabbi walks into St. Peter's Square, meets the pope, and tells the Holy Father that one way to defuse the sex abuse scandal plaguing the church is for the Vatican to begin promoting a secular version of Shabbat dinner, the traditional Jewish Friday meal.It's no joke.
Quote from: "nynyro"So, he is saying that because families aren't sharing meals they're becoming more distant and because there is no real communication between children and their parents this leaves the children vulnerable to being abused. I think it's a little to simplistic to suggest "family dinners" as a solution to child abuse, but you've got to start somewhere. Shmuley has always seemed to me like an opportunist and rather shady. But I've read a few of his books ("Hating Women: America's War on the fairer sex" is a pretty good one) and I agree with him on a lot of issues. He makes some good points.He makes some good money as well.... One of the many filling his pockets over Mike's back.
I have an intense dislike for the rabbi since reading his book on MJ. The last chapter where he likened Michael's appearance to Gollum from Lord of the Rings while being obsessed with his "precious' of celebrity sealed my distaste for him. That along with the rabbi's self righteous attitude. Seems true to me that there are none so blind as those who think they truly see. He's a great one to be talking about the lure of the spotlight. Oh that's right he tells himself it's for a higher purpose.
Quote from: "RK"I have an intense dislike for the rabbi since reading his book on MJ. The last chapter where he likened Michael's appearance to Gollum from Lord of the Rings while being obsessed with his "precious' of celebrity sealed my distaste for him. That along with the rabbi's self righteous attitude. Seems true to me that there are none so blind as those who think they truly see. He's a great one to be talking about the lure of the spotlight. Oh that's right he tells himself it's for a higher purpose.I noticed that too. I think he presents himself as "holier than thou", as if he was somehow more "spiritual" than Michael, but from what I'm hearing about him the opposite seems to be true. Maybe Michael should've been Schmuley's "spiritual advisor".
Um... :? Not to single anyone out, but...uh...it SEEMS to me that eating Rabbi Boteach for dinner is not something which should be a pastime of an Army of Love. I am concerned about groupthink-pouncing on some one we don't actually KNOW, whom Michael Jackson SAID he loved. They broke bread together, and studied the scriptures together---I have heard, although the only way I know him is through his books, as well, and I think I know why MJ liked him. Biting and devouring can't be construed as "love", no which way. :| NOT messin' with your opinions, which we all are entitled to express. Just saying, it's not just expressing opinions when villifying hatred is brewing. Here is my two cents. I like the Rabbi. I've read many of his books and I believe he LOVED Michael Jackson. He mentions MJ in a few of his other books, even, SO impressed was he by our beautiful, compassionate, thoughtful genius.The Michael Jackson book was SO different from his other books, it is weirdly, as if he did not write it----but it was mostly transcribed from tapes, so perhaps that is it. He wrote it as a FAVOR to MJ, to try to reclaim some of his Shine from the dirt, which popular group-think put it in. I really truly believe that the book's "angry judgmental" expressions of Rabbi B. were because he was SO hurt and shocked by the sudden end of the wonderful MJ, someone who had the World by the tail...I believe he had wanted to guide him out of his unique isolation and give him more common-man experiences and insights, sort of as a loving pet project, for someone NO one has ever tried to help in this way. When it all got flushed down the toilet with the rest of the drugs he believed MJ was using, I think he simply felt cut off at the knees. It is ALL over. Hopelessness is a serious and vindictively nagging B****. He even recriminates himself, IN the book, that there may have been more or SOMEthing he could have said which may have turned the tide...oh, God. :cry: Can you IMAGINE living with THAT beast hounding you everytime you hear Michael's name? It wouldn't bother any of us--but this guy had close proximity to MICHAEL JACKSON. He believes he witnessed the drug abuse (Mikey :!: :roll:) . He now wonders every day, if he could have done something...poor man! So, I can't be hard on him. He was in serious pain over MJ's death---and he probably doesn't know about the hoax, YET!! THIS is why MJ broke fellowship. To protect 8-) his friend's "man of God" reputation. He would NOT EVER involve something REAL in a magician's trick, and ruin the guy. Genuine "Men of God" MUST be trustworthy. We REQUIRE THIS. In spite of the fact that we've all been disappointed one time or another--even if only on the news---by religious folk, I believe Shmuley Boteach is one of the good ones. Yeah, some of the things Michael said to him gave him the :? :roll: willies---but it is BECAUSE of the religious differences! Anyone who follows Jesus Christ, knows He said and did things so off the wall, they ARE hard to believe (until you get to know Him, and realize He didn't lie ). Just One of the unusual things Jesus said, is that, "Believers shall lay hands on the sick and they will recover." When I saw Michael Jackson do this the first time, I couldn't :shock: BELIEVE what I was seeing!! Jesus has to be INSIDE, to use His power like this.I didn't even know he KNEW Jesus . He NEVER preaches. Not even a sermonette :!: I read somewhere that he tried to talk someone out of sex with his brother once, but just being moral doesn't mean "devoted to Jesus". I stared at the picture for a loooooooooooooooooooooong time, trying to imagine WHAT else he could POSSIBLY be DOING to the child in the picture. I know he was praying for the baby's healing, and touching him, as Jesus SAID to. The baby is even looking at MJ as if he RECOGNIZES the Spirit of God---not Michael Jackson :!: :!: The next time I saw this, it wasn't as obvious--but I've seen thousands of people prayed for---both the bogus showoffs and the genuine, motivated by Love this way, so I know it when I see it. I SAW it.Naturally, someone who only knows Jesus as the Philosophical Jesus or the Historical Jesus, CAN'T see anything but a demigod, when a follower of Christ says he believes he has power to do the things Christ supposedly did!!! This is why--in genuine christian circles--- there isn't alot of showing off, to outsiders. These powers are holy. They are life-changing. They are not to be cast around disrespectfully. In fact, He said signs will follow believers, not showoffs.I believe Michael Jackson had a secret mission we all NEVER dreamed we knew about all these years. This may sound wacky, but more and more I can't help but see him as a disguised superhero---like The Batman or someone: "King of Pop, in concert by night", slipping secretly out by day, to be a life-changer during his non-concert times---when the world thought he was simply throwing his money around, at hospitals and sick children...Confessing this to a Rabbi, would have made the Rabbi CRAZY :shock: :lol: Can we just re-think Boteach for a minute? None of us actually KNOWS him...aren't we learning and practicing to step back and give the benefit of the doubt, THIS TIME AROUND ? P.S. : Never underestimate the power of breaking bread as a group. My family did this nightly. For fun, for good food, for fellowship, for validation and support...for accountability. It is the easiest to do, for so much good result. :mrgreen:
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