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Hoax Videos / Really Insulting Video! Let's gang up on him/her! LOL
« on: January 19, 2010, 12:26:04 AM »
Ugh....

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Btw, please excuse if someone else has it up here already.

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Hoax Videos / New From MJAlive999: Fan Letters
« on: January 18, 2010, 02:17:29 AM »
What a wonderful video of letters to Michael from his fans!  Maybe one of you hoaxers here will see a note that YOU yourself wrote to him!  :)

[youtube:2pploayx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCg_Cz6tjSo&feature=sub[/youtube:2pploayx]

My only question is:  WHERE and HOW did the maker of this video get access to these letters?  They are ALL close-ups.  MJA999: do you actually HAVE these letters in your possession; and if so...WOW!

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I'm sure this has been discussed here tons of times.  It's just my OWN stream of consciousness flowing right now.  I've decided to post it here on the forum...thanks for reading, hoaxers.  You're all awesome folks:

The matrix; illusion vs. reality; how the media distorts, twists, destroys reality and makes you believe only what they want you to believe -- resulting in a dumbing down & control of the masses...

Michael ALWAYS told us to not believe everything we hear in the media.  It was one of his most passionate pleas to us!

I think, after much soul searching, thinking out loud on this forum (thanks for putting up with any of my crazy theories, gang, especially the political stuff! lol), THIS is what I believe is the real purpose of the hoax.  We CANNOT continue to live in an illusion anymore.  There are TOO many serious problems looming in front of us.

PT Barnum wanted to create the "greatest show on earth" -- an illusion; David Blaine, Criss Angel...and so many more...all devote their lives to creating false realities.  Disneyland= fantasy.  Neverland.  That's why Michael was so fascinated by this stuff.  

Disguises, costumes, makeup, playing jokes on people...again, create FALSE realities...

Michael lived in a fantasy world for his whole life.  But NOW Maybe he knows something, he realized something, he experienced something (The Trial!?!?), in his own personal life to make him stop and say:

"Wait.  We will destroy ourselves if we continue to live in an illusion."  Maybe he sees its not fun and games anymore.  Maybe he feels compelled to wake us up from our slumber for some very important reason.  Maybe he's seen what living in an unreal world can do to people and he's had enough.

Maybe Michael has experienced his own AWAKENING.  He's telling US now to wake up and take the red pill.  And isn't it just GENIUS of him to use a HOAX (another unreality) as a way of getting us to see the illusions all around us.... we are picking them up left and right now! BRILLIANT!

What helped cement this concept for me is what I wrote to a 13 yr old on youtube the other day.  He/she was worried that the world was going to end in 2012; understandably, this kid was scared.  I started looking at my own thoughts about stuff like conspiracy theories, the nwo, 2012, etc. and realized that whatever is coming down the road for us as a society, we must wake up and start doing what is right.  Who knows if the world will end soon?  Who knows if conspiracies are true? (again, reality vs. illusion)  NOBODY! So I said to this kid: "Don't worry about tomorrow.  Turn OFF your TV.  Start putting some of your allowance away or donating some time to your local charity, humane society, make a wish, etc.  Look inside yourself for the truth--not in the current issue of People magazine!  In other words, Do Something Real!!"
 :?:  :idea:  :!:

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Just read this on TMZ:


A&E to Jackson Bros -- The Offer's on the Table
Posted Jan 17th 2010 12:20AM by TMZ Staff

Jermaine, Jackie, Marlon, and Tito may be as tired of their A&E show as everybody else in America -- we're told the network has already offered them a second season ... but so far, the bros. haven't bitten.

TMZ spoke with a rep for A&E, who confirmed the offer and told us the network would gladly have MJ's male siblings back for another round of "The Jacksons: A Family Dynasty" -- which airs its last episode this Sunday.

But there's one problem: we're told the brothers haven't responded to the offer yet.

It's unclear why the brothers wouldn't jump at the chance for a paycheck ... but then again, it's the Jacksons ... so nothing is ever as it seems.

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***So, when it comes to the Jackson's, nothing is ever as it seems, huh???  Clue????   8-)

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I PM'd you on youtube, MJAlive999.  I'm going to briefly re-state what I said in the message, because I feel it is important.  

Obviously, many people here feel that Mike is sending a message to the world for the "sheeple" to wake up and see how the world is changing, and not in a positive way.  Many folks believe in concepts called the New World Order, the Illuminati, etc.  And they feel that Michael is trying to warn us of the evil intentions of the NWO plan -- some even believe that the antichrist or the devil is directly involved in the nwo.  They believe that Mike is trying to tell us that a huge change is coming fast -- I personally feel that after Obama was elected, this country started moving in a direction that most people thought was going to be a very positive and fresh new approach.  Now many are starting to realize, even those who voted for him, that the country is actually moving in a very scary direction...towards socialism and maybe even worse! (police state, communism, nwo, etc).  I see that with my own eyes and it scares the living daylights out of me.  I don't want my country, the FREE country that I grew up in, to change in that direction.  I don't want the government having control over my life.  

Maybe that's what Michael means by the greatest demonstration of FREEDOM in the history of our nation/the world.  We must prevent the current world leaders from taking away our freedom (because that is the inevitable result of socialism, communism, facism, etc).  

PLEASE, hoax believers, tell me if you think I am on the right track here...  Because if I'm not, I'll keep my mouth shut.  My theories about the hoax enter into the political landscape; and that is often a dangerous place to go.  I usually keep my politics to myself.  For example, many countries around the world hate the USA because we are a FREE society.  We don't believe that the gov't should put everyone on the same playing field (socialism); because that is not real freedom.   Was Michael Jackson a socialist?  A capitalist? Does his message have ANYTHING to do with politics at all?  

Anyway, I'm digressing a bit.  Unfortunately, I do see a few serious problems with what I think is Michael's message, imo.  First of all, so many people don't even believe that he is still alive, so I am afraid the message will never reach enough people.  Second, very few of the hoax believers are in any kind of position to actually go out there and try to change something as vast as the nwo, if it really exists.  Many members are young, and don't even understand yet the way the world works from the inside...how much of what we see (from the media) is an illusion, etc.  Btw, does anyone know if Michael was a fan of the movie, "The Matrix"? If so, then I think Michael is trying to tell us to:

TAKE THE RED PILL!!!!!!!  NOW!!!!!!  

Anyway, another problem I've seen with this hoax is how cryptic the clues are/were.  Again, for those of us who are paying attention, it makes the whole thing seem like just a game.  (sorry Michael, I'm just attempting to get into the minds of those who are confused/frustrated over all of this). Maybe it's just me, but a message as SERIOUS as "Watch out for the nwo, illuminati, communism/facism, the antichrist, etc.", imo, maybe shouldn't be presented to us like the game CLUE .  But then again, maybe dropping clues was the only way Michael could have done this safely.

I DO feel that people, now, are MORE concerned with WHAT Michael is trying to tell us as opposed to "When will he make his big comeback"?  Personally, as I said to MJAlive999 on youtube, I don't concern myself with a comeback at all.  We all have enough fantastic Jackson music from the pop genre to last a lifetime.  And to be fair to those who DO keep asking about the comeback -- I think most of them TRULY just want to know that he is alive & well, more so than when he will be back to entertain us again.  If he was  murdered by powerful people who DON'T want the sheeple to wake up, well...that still fits in to the whole "Michael has a message for us" theory, too.

What troubles me the most is the media.  Many feel that LKL, TMZ, AEG, CAngel, etc are all in on this hoax.  Certain things were staged, etc.  It looked like Michael needed the cooperation of MANY in the entertainment industry to pull this off.  But if you look at the videos of a youtuber named EsotericKitten, she believes that the whole entertainment industry and media is CONTROLLED by the Illuminati.  Why would MJ enlist the help/assistance of the media if he knew that they are already under the spell of the very EVIL institution that he is trying to warn us about????  Hmm...

One more thing.  It's possible (I've heard this from others), that Mike's message may be entirely religious in nature.  i.e. The return, the resurrection, "soon very soon, we are going to see the King", etc.  To be perfectly honest, THAT is a heavy, HEAVY concept to ponder; and I am very doubtful that many people would ever accept the possibility of Michael being a supernatural being (Jesus Christ or an angel sent to warn us of Jesus' return).   This kind of ties in with the whole 2012, endtimes, or spiritual transformation theme.  If THIS is the "red pill" we are supposed to swallow, it surely is the biggest, hardest pill I, personally, will ever have to swallow in my life!!...as it would be for many others too.  I was reading on some other forum not too long ago -- these were MJ fans who felt that he is indeed dead (from drugs/murder); and they were commenting on how sorry they felt for us hoax believers who have gone so far as to say that MJ's death has a Biblical/spiritual purpose.  They laughed at our "delusion".  And I gotta admit, as much as I am desperately trying to look at any and all possibilities for the hoax, I think this one is really hard to believe...

Also, other theories are still out there and have been discussed a Ba-Zillion times...i.e. Michael's efforts to expose the Hollywood DrFeelGood's, etc...  How do we come to the right conclusions?

Two final points: 1) I get a little frustrated at those who keep telling us to "open our eyes", the "evidence is right in front of you!", "wake up!", etc. (Sorry moderators!)  This frustrates me for several reasons: A) the evidence, although YES, is there...the clues are everywhere...they are still quite cryptic & sometimes vague, sometimes hard to believe (especially if you are more scientific in the way your brain is wired and are not prone to believing in things you cannot experience with your 5 senses, conspiracies, the Bible, etc).  B) as I mentioned before, and I mean no disrespect here, but I think as you get older, it gets harder to believe in things like this as your brain becomes more practical, more hardened, more cynical; and thus it's more likely I personally would hear a comment like, "Oh that is all so ridiculous! Michael is dead! Grow up! A conspiracy?! HaHa! Take off your tin foil hat!" from my peers (I'm in my 40's, older than probably most folks here).  So, WILL his message reach ENOUGH people!?!?  Maybe he's just targeting the younger generations, because they are the ones in the best position to actually CHANGE things for the better?

                          2) I've decided that the "message" must be one of the following things: a) stop the nwo;  b) get right with God because Jesus is nearer than we think;  c) or something as simple and plain as 'love one another, be kind to one another, be charitable, stop being such a materialistic, superficial, self centered society and give of yourself to others.  Would he fake his death for any of these messages?

Whew!  That's my final answer and I'm sticking to it.  Am I on the right track or WAY off base?  Please give me your insights; I respect everyone's opinion here!!!  :)

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Other Odd Things / Do Mo & Souza have insider information?
« on: December 22, 2009, 10:40:20 PM »
Happy Holidays to everyone here.  I am an original member of the MJHD site who just signed up here after deciding to get back into the hoax after a long absence.  I have a question for and/or about Mo and Souza (they are the owners of these sites, right?)  
 
I must admit, I haven't followed every single clue, idea, lead, headline, etc.   I've been more of a silent member to these boards and only rarely posted some thoughts.  I'm usually so busy that I don't have the ability to keep up with the mounds and mounds of info that pops out of these forums.  And I mean NO disrespect with what I am about to ask.  But, does anyone else think that Mo/Souza are "more" than just hoax believers?  If this subject has been discussed already, could you direct me to the proper thread?  I mean, first they come up with these extremely elaborate ideas on the old forum -- way too complex for just a couple of fans with vivid imaginations to conjure up, imho.  Then, they start their own forum.  Then MJHD forum leads here, even though they said they didn't purchase the old site (or did they?)  Then, thisisalsoit.com leads here.  It seems to me as if they know what is really going on in this hoax, maybe they are insiders, and they are helping to "direct" us in the right direction?  It's going way beyond just two smart ladies with some neat ideas now...they just seem to now be dropping very purposeful hints!!  I get the feeling that the information is getting less speculative and more, "Listen up; this is what's going on people"  For instance, the 2 part vid series on their blog page, "Wake Up Call", seems to be made by someone who knows what's really going on.  

I feel as if they have insider information.  What do you guys think?  Have they addressed this issue before?  I'm sure this is not the first time someone told them that there is something really interesting behind their posts and ideas, etc.  Especially because it seems to me that they KNOW what thisisalsoit.com is all about; and it seems as if they are dedicating a huge amount of time to this hoax.

If I am behind the times here, please forgive me.  I've been away from the hoax for quite some time -- and if Mo/Souza's role have already been discussed, I'm sorry I missed it.  Maybe someone could just point me in the right direction.  And if Mo & Souza read this directly, could you guys help me out?  Are you two just deeply dedicated fans?  Can you put my questions to rest -- because it just seems that you guys know a lot and you are giving us hints here on purpose.  

Or have I completely confused everything after the other website was closed down, the infomation got too voluminous to follow, thisisalsoit.com popped up among other clues that you guys seem to be directly linked to?  Thanks and again, I mean no disrespect.  I'm just searching for answers like the other members here.   :)

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