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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:04:09 AM
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I don't know what to say about this all, I mean aren't we waking up sleeping dogs now? I think it's good that everyone knows that Michael is alive, but what if Michael isn't Dave Dave then that rumor is spread now there isn't 100% proof that was Michael, I don't believe Michael was Dave Dave but that's just my opinion. I think we shouldn't go any further in the media let this over to Michael, he is busy with the plans I assume, let this over to him.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this but this is just my opinion.


I feel sorry for Dave, but let's realize that Dave probably cooperated with Mike and could have expected this sooner or later. I think Dave can handle this and let's not forget he is trying to have a career in the music business, as far as we know.

The article might be tabloid trash and definitely not what we agreed on with The Sun, but the website is going crazy today, which means people will read it. And there is a lot of valuable info on it.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:07:51 AM
MJ burns victim lookalike sparks rumours he's alive
Britain News.Net
Tuesday 11th May, 2010 (ANI)

A website has claimed that Michael Jackson is alive and masquerading as a burns victim, astonishing users all over the world.

Internet rumours on YouTube and Facebook also claim the King of Pop is appearing on TV talk shows as Dave Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire.

Dave was born David Rothenberg, in Brooklyn, New York. At the age of six, his father set him on fire over a twisted revenge concerning the child's custody.

The little boy suffered 90 percent injuries, and was scarred badly, but survived.

His mother, Marie wrote a book on his ordeal, which was then made into a movie. A trip to Jackson's Neverland ranch was organized for the boy, where the pop star took the boy under his wing.

Dave, now a law student living in Utah, changed his surname to break all ties with his father.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do.

"But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," The Sun quoted the boy as saying.

Now Dave, who appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year, is rumoured to be the pop star himself.

The website called michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, is owned by a 28-year-old and her friend, Mo, who call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had.

"The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," said the website owner.

Lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, rubbished the rumours saying that Jackson would be the last man wanting to study law.

"He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives.

"Dave Dave is an extraordinary young man. Michael Jackson took care of Dave for many years and asked nothing in return," he added.

Jackson died aged 50 in June last year. (ANI)

http://www.britainnews.net/story/633722
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:09:55 AM
Website claiming MJ to be alive, a hit in cyberspace
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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 (London)

A website claiming that 'King of Pop' Michael Jackson is still alive and posing as a burns victim, has become a hit among the pop star's fans, getting one million hits every day.

The website www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com claim the Thriller hitmaker is appearing on TV talkshows as Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his
father set him on fire, the Sun reported.

However lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, dismissed the rumours.

"The stories that have surfaced on the blogs concerning Michael Jackson still being alive are part of the worldwide grief that everyone whoever loved Michael Jackson now feels. He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives," he said.

Dave born in New York in 1983, survived a terrifying attack by his own father and suffered 90 per cent burns when he was six-years-old.

His mother Marie once took him to Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch as a treat, and the singing legend took lot of interest in him.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do. But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," Dave, who is currently studying in Utah had said earlier.

He also appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year.

Many bloggers feel Dave's high-pitched voice bears a remarkable resemblance to the pop icon's and observers claim his eyes have changed colour from his previous blue/green to brown.

"There's no doubt Michael Jackson is still alive. We have the evidence, now we want to let everyone know," one web forum regular said.

His extensive facial scarring is seen as a perfect cover for Jackson's surgically modified face.

Souza, who runs the website, with her friend Mo call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"Michael Jackson attended Larry King Live on the day of the funeral disguised as Dave Dave. At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had. The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," she said.

Jackson's sudden death at the age of 50 in June last year has been ruled as a drug overdose.


Read more at: http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx ... d=music&cp
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:14:30 AM
I wonder why TMZ hasn't picked up on this yet  :roll:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:15:42 AM
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:22:32 AM
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I don't know what to say about this all, I mean aren't we waking up sleeping dogs now? I think it's good that everyone knows that Michael is alive, but what if Michael isn't Dave Dave then that rumor is spread now there isn't 100% proof that was Michael, I don't believe Michael was Dave Dave but that's just my opinion. I think we shouldn't go any further in the media let this over to Michael, he is busy with the plans I assume, let this over to him.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this but this is just my opinion.


I feel sorry for Dave, but let's realize that Dave probably cooperated with Mike and could have expected this sooner or later. I think Dave can handle this and let's not forget he is trying to have a career in the music business, as far as we know.

The article might be tabloid trash and definitely not what we agreed on with The Sun, but the website is going crazy today, which means people will read it. And there is a lot of valuable info on it.

I understand what you are trying yo say. But have you thought about how this could ruin Michael's plans? How is he suppose to feel now! What if they wanted him dead and he is trying to give ''them'' and you know who I'm talking about  the Illuminati and stuff the biggest punch of all. He outsmarted them we should have let this over to him it was not up to us to go to the media. But that is just my opinion. You have only thought about how this could help the views on our forum and how this could help Dave's carreer but you haven't thought about what this could do for Michael. I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I just think this was a very bad move. But I still respect what you guys are doing but I have a bad feeling about this. Until now not many media sources knew Michael was alive and now they do. And in my opinion that is waking up sleeping dogs.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:26:59 AM
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I don't know what to say about this all, I mean aren't we waking up sleeping dogs now? I think it's good that everyone knows that Michael is alive, but what if Michael isn't Dave Dave then that rumor is spread now there isn't 100% proof that was Michael, I don't believe Michael was Dave Dave but that's just my opinion. I think we shouldn't go any further in the media let this over to Michael, he is busy with the plans I assume, let this over to him.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this but this is just my opinion.


I feel sorry for Dave, but let's realize that Dave probably cooperated with Mike and could have expected this sooner or later. I think Dave can handle this and let's not forget he is trying to have a career in the music business, as far as we know.

The article might be tabloid trash and definitely not what we agreed on with The Sun, but the website is going crazy today, which means people will read it. And there is a lot of valuable info on it.

I understand what you are trying yo say. But have you thought about how this could ruin Michael's plans? How is he suppose to feel now! What if they wanted him dead and he is trying to give ''them'' and you know who I'm talking about  the Illuminati and stuff the biggest punch of all. He outsmarted them we should have let this over to him it was not up to us to go to the media. But that is just my opinion. You have only thought about how this could help the views on our forum and how this could help Dave's carreer but you haven't thought about what this could do for Michael. I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I just think this was a very bad move. But I still respect what you guys are doing but I have a bad feeling about this. Until now not many media sources knew Michael was alive and now they do. And in my opinion that is waking up sleeping dogs.

I have the same feeling.. unfortunatelly..
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:27:25 AM
Good Lord !!!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:27:45 AM
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:31:14 AM
well I think they have more evidence than just Dave Dave and plus they have access to people who may have been involved and have the money to get them to talk they are just using us as a shield to protect those who have betrayed MJ by telling his secret and the way this is spreading this is just the beginning.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:43:38 AM
My God!This isn't a snowball anymore...we have a giant snowman :shock:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:54:06 AM
http://www.indiatalkies.com/2010/05/mj- ... alive.html

It may be a snowball, but as of yet, none of the major news outlets are reporting this (eg. Sky (also Rupert Murdoch) CNN, BBC, Fox, etc.)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 09:00:29 AM
I WISH MJ WOULD COME ON ALREADY SO I CAN HOLD ON TO THE POSSIBILITY OF RUBBING HIM DOWN ONE DAY...   ;)  :lol:  8-)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 09:44:02 AM
This is crazy guys ! It just prooves how the medias work. They spread "news" without even checking the content and the sources.
The major news outlets won't jump in it because they have a higher level of credibility for the majority of people. Imagine if CNN was broadcasting this news what would happened ?
 
I wonder if TMZ will talk about it ? They must talk about it and let us know if it is good or bad for the hoax.
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 09:53:24 AM
IT'S PERFECT THEY START COMING TO THIS SITE READING ALL THE EVIDENCE ON IT AND GEE WE GOT NEW BELIEVERS!!! @LOYALFAN YES WE NEED THOSE SHIRTS I TOLD YOU MJ WAS ALIVE :) NOW, THERE ARE RUMORS ALSO ABOUT MEXICAN SINGER LUIS MIGUEL HE'S SICK BUT WOW THE MEDIA LAST MONTH SAID HE HAD DIED, RIGHT NOW HE'S SUPPOSEDLY IN A COMA NO ONE KNOWS I FIND IT FUNNY LUIS MIGUEL ONE OF MARIAH CAREY'S EXES OH AND ALSO HOW NICE LUIS MIGUEL (MICHAEL IN SPANISH). I READ ALL SORTS OF SPANISH STUFF SO A FEW MONTHS AGO I CAME ACROSS A SPANISH TABLOID AND THEY WERE COMPARING LUIS MIGUEL TO MICHAEL CUS LUIS MICHAEL WAS OUT AND ABOUT SPORTING SOMETHING ON HIS HAND JUST LIKE MICHAEL. I SAW THE PICTURE AND I LAUGHED CUS I WAS LIKE IN REALITY THESE TWO DO HAVE STUFF IN COMMON LUIS MIGUEL HAS HAD IT TOUGH CHILD STAR HIS FATHER MISTREATED HIM SIMILARITIES AND HE LIVES A RECLUSIVE LIFE.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 09:56:15 AM
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:00:47 AM
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I understand what you are trying yo say. But have you thought about how this could ruin Michael's plans?

Well excuse me, but this is a PUBLIC website.  EVERYONE can visit and read all that is published on our website, blog and on these boards.  It's not like this is a secret website, that no one knows of.  The hoax has been reported in the media before, just by reporters who visited hoax websites.  The only difference this time is that it's spreading all over the world.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:33:52 AM
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO JUST WANTS TO SCREAMMMMM??? at this???
they saying its cause we cant accept hes gone?! OH MY WORD PEOPLE SOME OF THE BIGGEST HOAX INVESTIGATORS ARE NOT FANS!thats the thing that makes it all the more compelling! if it hadnt been for non-fans and haters i would never have thought of the possibility of him being alive! i just wanna take those people on the sun comments page and SHAKE THEM!!

can we all go onto the sun's comments & defend our beliefs?
i know these tabloid readers are all idiots but they need to be educated!
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:36:27 AM
I want to know why the media cannot do it's own investigating? That, of course, is what they are notorious for.  If anyone can blow the lid off a story it would be the powerful and much more resource-laden ($$$$$$$) media companies. On many levels, it is confusing to me and question why it has taken nearly a full year for this to come about??????  Has anyone else questioned this????? Is there a purpose for it all happening right now?  When does this case (C. Murray) go to court???? Soon, huh?!?!?!?!? Is there any relationship to all of this?!?!?!?  Hmmmmmmmmmm....I wonder?!?!?!?!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:37:12 AM
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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO JUST WANTS TO SCREAMMMMM??? at this???
they saying its cause we cant accept hes gone?! OH MY WORD PEOPLE SOME OF THE BIGGEST HOAX INVESTIGATORS ARE NOT FANS!thats the thing that makes it all the more compelling! if it hadnt been for non-fans and haters i would never have thought of the possibility of him being alive! i just wanna take those people on the sun comments page and SHAKE THEM!!

can we all go onto the sun's comments & defend our beliefs?
i know these tabloid readers are all idiots but they need to be educated!


I don't think it's a question of being a fan or not. A lot of fans do also believe that we're crazy. It's all about the truth here. We are sane people, fan or not. But tabloids do not take these things into account.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:37:42 AM
OH! & also could we please write into the sun and complain? lets make the printouts of the emails to souza and mo public!
even if people choose to remain non believers this is still a great excuse to show the world how ROTTEN tabloids can be!!
or maybe on the other hand the sun contacted MJ's people about the death hoax theories & they warned them not to go into detail & insisted they would only talk about dave dave?just a thought i had?
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:40:13 AM
Three hurrays for the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf!

After I called them and asked them if they would be willing to publish the original 500 words piece The Sun promised us to publish they asked me to put the piece on a separate page so that they could like to it.  And voila, they kept their promise:


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'Michael Jackson leeft'

AMSTERDAM -  Volgens de Britse krant The Sun is Michael Jackson niet dood. Sterker nog, de King of Pop zou zich voordoen als een 33-jarig brandwondenslachtoffer.

Michael Jackson zou volgens The Sun in de huid zijn gekropen van brandwondenslachtoffer 'Dave Dave'. Hij raakte als kind zwaar verminkt toen zijn vader hem overgoot met kerosine en hem in brand stak. Hij werd geboren als David Rothenberg in New York, maar veranderde volgens The Sun zijn naam om alle banden met zijn vader te breken.

De krant schrijft haar bevindingen toe aan het blog Michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, dat gemaakt wordt door twee Nederlandse vrouwen. De blogsite, die vraagtekens plaatst bij de dood van de King of Pop, telt de laatste dagen maar liefst 1 miljoen hits per dag.

De dood van Jackson - vorig jaar juni - houdt de gemoederen, vooral op internet, nog flink bezig. Het Britse boulevardblad meldt dinsdag dat ene 'Dave Dave' ooit vriendschap met Michael Jackson zou hebben gesloten. Jackson zou na zijn ge├źnsceneerde dood in de huid van de man zijn gekropen. Hij zou als Dave Dave onder meer als gast hebben opgetreden in de Amerikaanse talkshow Larry King Live op CNN.

Het blog is allerminst blij met het bericht in The Sun, waarvoor de vrouwen eerder hun medewerking hadden verleend. Volgens de site is het artikel van The Sun 'Is Jacko posing as burn victim?' veel te sensationeel. Ook menen de vrouwen dat het blad zich niet aan de afspraak heeft gehouden.

The word "aspraak" (agreement) is linked to http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... rticle.php

http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/6700410/_ ... l?sn=prive
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:42:18 AM
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:45:19 AM
I don't find anything in French medias for the moment...
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