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And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 10, 2010, 08:31:17 PM
Quoting the Sun without even contacting us, and they obviously didn't see our post about the Sun on the index:


Website claims Jackson 'still alive, in disguise
'09:30 AEST Tue May 11 2010
By ninemsn staff



A website that claims Michael Jackson is masquerading as a severely disfigured man has become an internet sensation, attracting over one million hits per day.

An administrator from michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com claims Jackson appeared on the Larry King talk show in disguise on the day of his funeral last year, The Sun newspaper reports.

Hoax believers say Jackson is impersonating a man he befriended years ago — Dave Dave — who was severely burned in 1983 after his father doused him with kerosene and set him alight.
Dave, now 33 and living in Utah, said Jackson "accepted him" and "never let go".

"He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do," he said.

Bloggers noted after Dave's appearance on the Larry King Show last year that his voice was of a similar pitch to Jackson's and that his mannerisms were the same.

Dave's eye colour also reportedly changed from green/blue to brown.

The comparisons have led to speculation that Dave's facial scarring would provide the perfect cover for Jackson, who died aged 50 in June last year.

Souza, an administrator from the hoax website, said: "Michael Jackson attended Larry King Live on the day of the funeral disguised as Dave Dave."

Souza runs the website with her friend Mo. They both call themselves "Death Hoax Investigators".

"The media told us two different stories," Souza was quoted as saying.

"TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma ... what really happened still remains a mystery."

Dave's spokesman Brian Oxman rubbished the claims, saying the world was still grieving for Jackson.

"He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us," Mr Oxman was quoted as saying.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainmen ... n-disguise
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 10, 2010, 08:36:31 PM
And another one (translated with Google Translate):

"Michael Jackson is still alive?
The strange Internet rumor spread on
Univision.com
May 10, 2010



It was expected that around a superstar like Michael Jackson rumors begin to circulate that he is not dead but alive and hiding under a secret identity.

It happened with Elvis Presley, Jim Morrison, Carlos Gardel and to Pedro Infante, but in the case of king of pop, fans think they know where he is and what it's called now.

Controversial viral

His name is Dave Dave, a New York law student, that six years was the victim of a violent attack of his father, as a result of which was completely disfigured by burns.

Jackson knew his story and took him in and took care to cover the costs of expensive treatment. So far so good.

But several details have sparked a controversy on the internet viral features: Dave speaks with a certain softness mannered (like MJ) and behind his disfigured face could hide virtually anyone.

Completion of fans: Michael Jackson is hidden in the figure of Dave Dave, whose real name is David Rothenberg.

Today, the site MichaelJacksonHoaxForum.com , dedicated to developing all kinds of theories about the fake death of Jackson, is receiving a record one million visits a day thanks to the controversy.

After the death of the king of pop, Dave Dave even appeared on The Larry King Show , on CNN , talking about his friend. In addition, there are pictures of both, when Dave was only six years and Jackson began to help heal.

The representative of Dave, Brian Oxman, categorically denied reports The Sun : "The stories that have emerged are part of the grief they feel all those who loved Michael Jackson. "

Once again, we see that the fans have trouble accepting the truth that the idols do not last for ever.

Why do you think these rumors arise?


http://www.univision.com/content/conten ... id=2394674
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 10, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
WOW....that's in the Australian News.  This morning they talked about MJ's children and how there is chaos in the Jackson home, and how the children might be put into care.

We don't usually get that much information down here in Australia.  This is a mixed article, but it always hints towards "us" believers being "crazy" and in denial.  

It's the first time I heard that Brian Oxman knew about and denied the rumours.

So when did Oxman read all of theses forums.?????????

At least the internet hot searches is getting alot of attention now.

Good or bad or ugly, it doesn't matter.  At least it gets out there.  

We have power in numbers.  Imagine what else we can do with that.  As always with L.O.V.E  xoxo    Australia.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 10, 2010, 09:12:11 PM
unbelievable, yet true to form.  They never miss a beat especially when it comes to anything controversial concerning Michael.   Oh well... ;)
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UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 10, 2010, 11:37:27 PM
¿Michael Jackson sigue vivo?
El insólito rumor se esparce en internet

   
Univision.com
Como con Elvis Presley, los fans de MJ ya especulan que no está muerto sino escondido.
Univision.com

10 de Mayo de 2010

   Michael Jackson

Era de esperarse que alrededor de una megaestrella como Michael Jackson comiencen a circular los rumores de que no está muerto sino vivo y escondido bajo una identidad secreta. (WE THINK MJ HAS A SECRET IDENTITY)

Ocurrió con Elvis Presley, Jim Morrison, Carlos Gardel y hasta Pedro Infante, pero en el caso del rey del pop, los fans creen saber dónde está y cómo se llama ahora.(THAT'S LAME WE HAVEN'T CAME UP WITH ANY NAMES OF THE NEW IDENTITY OF MIKE YES WE HAVE DISCUSSED HE'S SOMEWHERE IN EUROPE,BUT THAT'S IT)

Polémica viral

Su nombre es Dave Dave, un neoyorquino estudiante de leyes, que a los seis años fue víctima de un ataque violento de su padre, a raíz de lo cual quedó totalmente desfigurado por quemaduras.(WE DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN BUT THE REAL DAVE AND THE OTHER DAVE DO NOT LOOK THE SAME PLUS THE VOICE)

Fotos   
   

Fans de Michael Jackson lo quieren vivo

   

Jackson supo de su historia y lo acogió y se encargó de cubrir los gastos de su costoso tratamiento. Hasta ahí todo bien.

Pero varios detalles han desatado una polémica de rasgos virales en internet: Dave habla con cierta suavidad amanerada (como MJ) y detrás de su rostro desfigurado podría esconderse, virtualmente, cualquiera.(THEY USE "AMANERADA" WHICH MEAN THAT YOU SOUND REALLY FEMININE LIKE MJ AGAIN TRYING TO MAKE HIM SEEM GAY NO PROBLEM WITH IT BUT DON'T ASSUME UNTIL HE SAYS HE'S GAY HIMSELF. HOW WE THINK DAVE DAVE IS MIKE WELL OF COURSE WE ALL HAVE DOUBTS IF IT'S MIKE COME ON THE VOICE AND THE EYES)

Conclusión de los fans: Michael Jackson se oculta en la figura de Dave Dave, cuyo nombre real es David Rothenberg.

Hoy por hoy, el sitio MichaelJacksonHoaxForum.com, dedicado a elaborar todo tipo de teorías sobre la falsa muerte de Jackson, está recibiendo una cifra récord de un millón de visitas diarias gracias a la polémica.(SOUZA & MO NOW KNOWN IN LATIN MEDIA) :)  ;)

Tras la muerte del rey del pop, Dave Dave incluso apareció en The Larry King Show, en CNN, hablando sobre su amigo. Además, hay fotos de ambos, de cuando Dave tenía sólo seis años y Jackson comenzó a ayudarlo a curarse.

El representante de Dave, Brian Oxman, negó los rumores categóricamente a The Sun: "Las historias que han surgido son parte del luto que sienten todos los que amaron a Michael Jackson".(OXMAN TALKS TO THE SUN) LOL!

Una vez más, se comprueba que a los fans les cuesta aceptar la verdad de que los ídolos no duran para siempre.

http://www.univision.com/content/conten ... id=2394674




PEEPS THEY'RE MENTIONING DAVE DAVE AND HERE WE GOT THE SUN AGAIN. THE HOAX IS HITTING THE HISPANIC MEDIA WE GOT IT GOING WHOOT WHOOT! I DO BELIEVE DA MAN WANTS THE RUMOR TO CIRCULATE HE DON'T WANT REAL CARDIAC ARREST. IT'S NOT WISHFUL THINKING AND I HATE IT THAT THE ARE MAKING US SOUND LIKE WE ARE MENTAL OR SOMETHING.  :evil:  THE MAN IS ALIVE YOU GUYS GOTTA ACCEPT IT AND IT'S GONNA BE A PIE ON THE FACE WHEN HE RETURNS LOL!! EVERYONE GET READY TO TELL EVERYONE WHO'S A NON BELIEVER I TOLD YOU SO.  ;)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 10, 2010, 11:48:09 PM
In some strange twisted way, it almost feels right to be viewed as a crazy because of believing in the hoax. Media viewed MJ that way, so why not his beLIEvers. I don't think I expected anything less.
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http://http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/1050839/website-claims-jackson-still-alive-in-disguise

A website that claims Michael Jackson is masquerading as a severely disfigured man has become an internet sensation, attracting over one million hits per day.

An administrator from michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com claims Jackson appeared on the Larry King talk show in disguise on the day of his funeral last year, The Sun newspaper reports.

Hoax believers say Jackson is impersonating a man he befriended years ago — Dave Dave — who was severely burned in 1983 after his father doused him with kerosene and set him alight.

Dave, now 33 and living in Utah, said Jackson "accepted him" and "never let go".

"He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do," he said.

Bloggers noted after Dave's appearance on the Larry King Show last year that his voice was of a similar pitch to Jackson's and that his mannerisms were the same.

Dave's eye colour also reportedly changed from green/blue to brown.

The comparisons have led to speculation that Dave's facial scarring would provide the perfect cover for Jackson, who died aged 50 in June last year.

Souza, an administrator from the hoax website, said: "Michael Jackson attended Larry King Live on the day of the funeral disguised as Dave Dave."

Souza runs the website with her friend Mo. They both call themselves "Death Hoax Investigators".


"The media told us two different stories," Souza was quoted as saying.

"TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma ... what really happened still remains a mystery."

Dave's spokesman Brian Oxman rubbished the claims, saying the world was still grieving for Jackson.

"He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us," Mr Oxman was quoted as saying.

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Dave's spokesman is Brian Oxman?  

They make it seem like Oxman is talking about the hoax but he could be talking about anything.  

Ninemsn is hugely popular in Australia.  When you log out of hotmail, it takes you straight to the Ninemsn homepage so a LOT of people will see this article.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 12:02:06 AM
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Good or bad or ugly, it doesn't matter. At least it gets out there.

People will go after him if his return is not done right.  If people think for one second he did it for publicity or to get back at the media, he will be done.  It's NOT a good thing that out of all the theories and clues there are, they chose the most bizarre sounding one.

Ninemsn is a huge site, when you sign out of Hotmail, it's the page you're redirected to.  A LOT of people will see this.
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NOTHING IS A COINCIDENCE I BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME AND THE WORLD SHALL KNOW. I KNOW IT ALSO SURPRISED ME OXMAN IS DAVE DAVE'S SPOKESMAN MMM.....INVOLVED WITH MIKE HAS TAKEN CARE OF MIKE'S LEGAL STUFF. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE BELIEVE :o
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It's actually on the front page of the web screensaver:  I am from Australia too.

We are inundated with all things MJ toady, even a new release of the 911 call, and mention of the children possibly being taken into care.
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:19:39 AM
Let's just hope they don't stop after reading the Sun's article. They need to come to this site and form their own opinion. That's what Michael wants, right? That people think for themselves and not believe everything they see?

Thank you for this information. Maybe we need to sweep floors and get ready for all of the company headed our direction? :)
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 03:03:22 AM
just had a funny thought you guys...................GET A T.SHIRT WHICH SAYS...    ."TOLD YOU SO".... ON IT................what fun we will have wearing that....woop woop ......xxxxxxx
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Yeah, that's what I meant by this:

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When you log out of hotmail, it takes you straight to the Ninemsn homepage so a LOT of people will see this article.
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 03:43:15 AM
I'm not really getting this thing... Some media expressed their doubt in Michael being really dead, right? Who are they?
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:14:56 AM

http://klatsch-tratsch.de/2010/05/11/le ... iter/51749


Lebt Michael Jackson als Brandopfer Dave weiter?
Dienstag, 11. Mai 2010, 9:17

London. Die Website ‘michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com’ behauptet, dass der King Of Pop Michael Jackson noch immer lebt und als Brandopfer entstellt sei. Dort verkünden hartnäckige Fans immer wieder: “Es gibt keinen Zweifel, Michael Jackson ist immer noch lebendig. Wir haben die Beweise, jetzt wollen wir, dass es jeder weiß.”
Die Gerüchte kamen auf, weil der 33-Jährige Dave, der als sechsjähriger Junge 1983 von seinem Vater im Schlaf in Brand gesteckt wurde, den Sänger kannte. Jackson habe den Jungen, der sich heute Dave Dave nennt, vor einigen Jahren mit offenen Armen empfangen und sogar seine jahrelange Freundschaft angeboten.

Dave erlitt 90% Hautverbrennungen und es gilt als Wunder, dass er überlebt hat.

Die Website setzt auch so wirre Gerüchte wie diese in Umlauf: “Michael Jackson besucht Larry King Live am Tag des Begräbnisses, als Dave Dave getarnt.”

[youtube:2y1psk5b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw[/youtube:2y1psk5b]

English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?j ... =en&swap=1
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:20:05 AM
snowsuit? check.
straight jacket? check.
a little white flag with the initials "MJ" on it? check.

yup. i'm ready to get rolled into the snowball. let the games begin!
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:21:35 AM
Apparently today has been a big news day.  It has spread all over the world.

Don't know who or what tipped them off, but I'm surely not happy about it.

The only evidence presented by the media, is about Dave Dave possibly being MJ in disguise.

This alone is not concrete evidence.  Why didn't they talk about the fake autopsy report, the fake death certificate, the fake time line etc.........

This type of attention makes us lose credibility.  Its a mockery.!!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:46:02 AM
Amy Duncan - 11th May, 2010

Michael Jackson burns victim lookalike sparks rumours he isn't dead

Michael Jackson is still alive – or so say hordes of his fans who believe the King of Pop is living disguised as a burns victim.

Rumours sweeping the internet say that Jacko’s death last June was all part of this complex charade.
And his eager fans are clinging onto the hope that the Thriller singer has morphed into Dave Dave – a man famous in America for being a burns victim at the age of 6 after being burnt by his father when a custody battle hit sick depths.
Dave Dave isn’t doing anything to quash the speculation either, even having posted controversial snaps of himself laying in a coffin on his MySpace page reminiscent of the Thriller video.
One determined forum member, from a site claiming Jacko’s death was a hoax, said: ‘There's no doubt Michael Jackson is still alive. We have the evidence, now we want to let everyone know.’
The controversial frenzy was sparked when the fake MJ, real name David Rothenberg, appeared on Larry King Live to talk about his friendship with the King himself.
Years after Dave suffered the burns, his mother wrote a book about his traumatic ordeal and organised a trip to Jackson's Neverland ranch where the pair then formed a solid friendship.
Fans have gone as far as to compare Michael Jackson against Mr Rothenberg from the evidence in the Larry King YouTube video.
They say he has the same high-ptiched voice, the scarring would be the ‘perfect cover’ for MJ's infamous plastic surgery scars and that he’s even changed his eye colour to match.
However, last night the Jackson’s family lawyer told The Sun: ‘Michael was so remarkable, people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us.’
Watch the Larry King interview for yourself here:

[youtube:37a1e5l4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:37a1e5l4]

http://www.metro.co.uk/showbiz/825578-m ... -isnt-dead
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:46:20 AM
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Apparently today has been a big news day.  It has spread all over the world.

Don't know who or what tipped them off, but I'm surely not happy about it.

The only evidence presented by the media, is about Dave Dave possibly being MJ in disguise.

This alone is not concrete evidence.  Why didn't they talk about the fake autopsy report, the fake death certificate, the fake time line etc.........

This type of attention makes us lose credibility.  Its a mockery.!!

Maybe in time they will start publishing those sort of things.. like the fake ar and fake will..   maybe this is the beginning.. the mainstream media might be testing the waters to see how the general public react.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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snowsuit? check.
straight jacket? check.
a little white flag with the initials "MJ" on it? check.

yup. i'm ready to get rolled into the snowball. let the games begin!
^^ I'm with ya!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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It made the METRO???

Thats a free newspaper thats distributed on public transport..  so everyone in the UK who gets the train today is going to read that!!

The coverage of this in the UK is HUGE!   :shock:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Michael Jackson 'Is Alive And Posed As Burns Victim On Larry King'
Ahead of his own funeral...

May 11, 2010 by Scott Colothan | Photo by WENN.com
 
 
Members of a Michael Jackson death hoax forum claim the King of Pop is alive and well and once disguised himself as a burns victim on national television.

The website, Michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, attracts over one million hits per day and is used by fans to discuss theories about whether the King of Pop is still alive.

It's claimed that on Larry King's talk show on September 3rd last year, Jackson disguised himself as Dave Dave - a 33-year-old burns victim who befriended Jackson when he was a child.

Dave Dave suffered horrific burns when his deranged father set him on fire when he was six-years-old in an act of revenge over custody.

As a child, his mother wrote a book about his ordeal and took him on a trip to Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch where they became close friends.

Law student Dave, who changed his name from David Rothenberg to sever all links to his criminal father, appeared on Larry King's show ahead of Michael Jackson's memorial service in September.

He told the presenter: “(Michael) opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go."

The interview was been posted on Youtube when death hoax theorists noted the similarity in Dave Dave's voice and mannerisms to Jackson.

According to The Sun, forum founder 'Souza' said: "Michael Jackson attended Larry King Live on the day of the funeral disguised as Dave Dave."

Yet despite the theory's Dave Dave's spokesman Brian Oxman rubbished the claims, telling the tabloid: “"The stories that have surfaced on the blogs concerning Michael Jackson still being alive are part of the worldwide grief that everyone whoever loved Michael Jackson now feels.

"He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives.
"I have spoken to Dave within the past several weeks, and he is doing well. He is going to school in Utah, and he is studying to be a lawyer.
"I can assure you that while Michael Jackson would be thrilled that Dave would become a lawyer, Michael Jackson never wanted to be a lawyer himself. He would shudder at the very thought."
Dave Dave on Larry King Live:

[youtube:3275euxn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:3275euxn]

http://www.gigwise.com/news/56279/Micha ... Larry-King
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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http://www.britainnews.net/story/633722

MJ burns victim lookalike sparks rumours he's alive

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Tuesday 11th May, 2010 (ANI)

A website has claimed that Michael Jackson is alive and masquerading as a burns victim, astonishing users all over the world.

Internet rumours on YouTube and Facebook also claim the King of Pop is appearing on TV talk shows as Dave Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire.

Dave was born David Rothenberg, in Brooklyn, New York. At the age of six, his father set him on fire over a twisted revenge concerning the child's custody.

The little boy suffered 90 percent injuries, and was scarred badly, but survived.

His mother, Marie wrote a book on his ordeal, which was then made into a movie. A trip to Jackson's Neverland ranch was organized for the boy, where the pop star took the boy under his wing.

Dave, now a law student living in Utah, changed his surname to break all ties with his father.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do.

"But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," The Sun quoted the boy as saying.

Now Dave, who appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year, is rumoured to be the pop star himself.

The website called michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, is owned by a 28-year-old and her friend, Mo, who call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had.

"The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," said the website owner.

Lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, rubbished the rumours saying that Jackson would be the last man wanting to study law.

"He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives.

"Dave Dave is an extraordinary young man. Michael Jackson took care of Dave for many years and asked nothing in return," he added.

Jackson died aged 50 in June last year. (ANI)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 06:57:08 AM
Is Michael Jackson alive?
May 11, 2010 15:25 IST

A website claiming that King of Pop Michael Jackson [ Images ] is still alive and posing as a burns victim, has become a hit among the pop star's fans, getting one million hits every day.

The website www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com claim the Thriller hitmaker is appearing on TV talkshows as Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire, the Sun reported.

However lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, dismissed the rumours. "The stories that have surfaced on the blogs concerning Michael Jackson still being alive are part of the worldwide grief that everyone whoever loved Michael Jackson now feels. He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives," he said.

Dave born in New York in 1983, survived a terrifying attack by his own father and suffered 90 per cent burns when he was six-years-old. His mother Marie once took him to Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch as a treat, and the singing legend took lot of interest in him.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do. But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," Dave, who is currently studying in Utah had said earlier. He also appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year.

Many bloggers feel Dave's high-pitched voice bears a remarkable resemblance to the pop icon's and observers claim his eyes have changed colour from his previous blue/green to brown.

"There's no doubt Michael Jackson is still alive. We have the evidence, now we want to let everyone know," one web forum regular said.

His extensive facial scarring is seen as a perfect cover for Jackson's surgically modified face. Souza, who runs the website, with her friend Mo call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"Michael Jackson attended Larry King Live on the day of the funeral disguised as Dave Dave. At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had. The media told us two different stories.

TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," she said.

Jackson's sudden death at the age of 50 in June last year has been ruled as a drug overdose.


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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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http://story.albuquerqueexpress.com/ind ... 3722/cs/1/

MJ burns victim lookalike sparks rumours he's alive
Albuquerque Express
Tuesday 11th May, 2010  
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A website has claimed that Michael Jackson is alive and masquerading as a burns victim, astonishing users all over the world.

Internet rumours on YouTube and Facebook also claim the King of Pop is appearing on TV talk shows as Dave Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire.

Dave was born David Rothenberg, in Brooklyn, New York. At the age of six, his father set him on fire over a twisted revenge concerning the child's custody.

The little boy suffered 90 percent injuries, and was scarred badly, but survived.

His mother, Marie wrote a book on his ordeal, which was then made into a movie. A trip to Jackson's Neverland ranch was organized for the boy, where the pop star took the boy under his wing.

Dave, now a law student living in Utah, changed his surname to break all ties with his father.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do.

"But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," The Sun quoted the boy as saying.

Now Dave, who appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year, is rumoured to be the pop star himself.

The website called michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, is owned by a 28-year-old and her friend, Mo, who call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had.

"The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," said the website owner.

Lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, rubbished the rumours saying that Jackson would be the last man wanting to study law.

"He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives.

"Dave Dave is an extraordinary young man. Michael Jackson took care of Dave for many years and asked nothing in return," he added.

Jackson died aged 50 in June last year. (ANI)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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so what does this all mean???
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Now we wait and see if this spreads to the TV News Channels!  

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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MJ burns victim lookalike sparks rumours he’s alive
May 11th, 2010 - 5:17 pm ICT by ANI -

London, May 11 (ANI): A website has claimed that Michael Jackson is alive and masquerading as a burns victim, astonishing users all over the world.

Internet rumours on YouTube and Facebook also claim the King of Pop is appearing on TV talk shows as Dave Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire.

Dave was born David Rothenberg, in Brooklyn, New York. At the age of six, his father set him on fire over a twisted revenge concerning the child’s custody.

The little boy suffered 90 percent injuries, and was scarred badly, but survived.

His mother, Marie wrote a book on his ordeal, which was then made into a movie. A trip to Jackson’s Neverland ranch was organized for the boy, where the pop star took the boy under his wing.

Dave, now a law student living in Utah, changed his surname to break all ties with his father.

“He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do.

“But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go,” The Sun quoted the boy as saying.

Now Dave, who appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star’s memorial service last year, is rumoured to be the pop star himself.

The website called michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, is owned by a 28-year-old and her friend, Mo, who call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

“At first we started investigating Michael’s death as it was a gut feeling we both had.

“The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery,” said the website owner.

Lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave’s spokesman, rubbished the rumours saying that Jackson would be the last man wanting to study law.

“He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives.

“Dave Dave is an extraordinary young man. Michael Jackson took care of Dave for many years and asked nothing in return,” he added.

Jackson died aged 50 in June last year. (ANI)

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/ent ... 61940.html
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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so what does this all mean???

It means that the article is published all over the world now...
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Website claiming Jackson to be alive, a hit in cyberspace
By: Agencies       Date:  2010-05-11       Place: London

A website claiming that King of Pop Michael Jackson is still alive and posing as a burns victim, has become a hit among the pop star's fans, getting one million hits every day.

The website www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com claim the Thriller hitmaker is appearing on TV talk shows as Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire, the Sun reported. However lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, dismissed the rumours.

"The stories that have surfaced on the blogs concerning Michael Jackson still being alive are part of the worldwide grief that everyone whoever loved Michael Jackson now feels. He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives," he said.

Dave born in New York in 1983, survived a terrifying attack by his own father and suffered 90 per cent burns when he was six-years-old. His mother Marie once took him to Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch as a treat, and the singing legend took lot of interest in him.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do. But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," Dave, who is currently studying in Utah had said earlier. He also appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year.

Many bloggers feel Dave's high-pitched voice bears a remarkable resemblance to the pop icon's and observers claim his eyes have changed colour from his previous blue/green to brown. "There's no doubt Michael Jackson is still alive. We have the evidence, now we want to let everyone know," one web forum regular said. His extensive facial scarring is seen as a perfect cover for Jackson's surgically modified face.

Souza, who runs the website, with her friend Mo call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators. "Michael Jackson attended Larry King Live on the day of the funeral disguised as Dave. At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had. The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," she said.

Jackson's sudden death at the age of 50 in June last year has been ruled as a drug overdose.

http://www.mid-day.com/news/2010/may/11 ... rspace.htm
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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It has been published not only in tabloids but on many blogs on the internet as well.  At least this site will get many hits and people will open their eyes.
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

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Apparently today has been a big news day.  It has spread all over the world.

Don't know who or what tipped them off, but I'm surely not happy about it.

The only evidence presented by the media, is about Dave Dave possibly being MJ in disguise.

This alone is not concrete evidence.  Why didn't they talk about the fake autopsy report, the fake death certificate, the fake time line etc.........

This type of attention makes us lose credibility.  Its a mockery.!!

Maybe in time they will start publishing those sort of things.. like the fake ar and fake will..   maybe this is the beginning.. the mainstream media might be testing the waters to see how the general public react.

This has its postitives. This website has recieved alot of profile in the last few days. More pple will be aware of this site, be able to investigate themselves and form their own opinions, and hopefully come to understand Michael's message and why he has hoaved his death. AND not to trust the media
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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MJ burns victim look-alike sparks rumours he`s alive  
Updated on Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 16:44 IST

London: A website has claimed that Michael Jackson is alive and masquerading as a burns victim, astonishing users all over the world.

Internet rumours on YouTube and Facebook also claim the King of Pop is appearing on TV talk shows as Dave Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire.

Dave was born David Rothenberg, in Brooklyn, New York. At the age of six, his father set him on fire over a twisted revenge concerning the child`s custody.

The little boy suffered 90 percent injuries, and was scarred badly, but survived.

His mother, Marie wrote a book on his ordeal, which was then made into a movie. A trip to Jackson``s Neverland ranch was organized for the boy, where the pop star took the boy under his wing.

Dave, now a law student living in Utah, changed his surname to break all ties with his father.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do.

"But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," The Sun quoted the boy as saying.

Now Dave, who appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star``s memorial service last year, is rumoured to be the pop star himself.

The website called michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, is owned by a 28-year-old and her friend, Mo, who call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"At first we started investigating Michael``s death as it was a gut feeling we both had.

"The media told us two different stories. A website reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," said the website owner.

http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story60929.htm
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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I don't know what to say about this all, I mean aren't we waking up sleeping dogs now? I think it's good that everyone knows that Michael is alive, but what if Michael isn't Dave Dave then that rumor is spread now there isn't 100% proof that was Michael, I don't believe Michael was Dave Dave but that's just my opinion. I think we shouldn't go any further in the media let this over to Michael, he is busy with the plans I assume, let this over to him.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this but this is just my opinion.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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LOL! OMFG .......
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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I don't know what to say about this all, I mean aren't we waking up sleeping dogs now? I think it's good that everyone knows that Michael is alive, but what if Michael isn't Dave Dave then that rumor is spread now there isn't 100% proof that was Michael, I don't believe Michael was Dave Dave but that's just my opinion. I think we shouldn't go any further in the media let this over to Michael, he is busy with the plans I assume, let this over to him.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this but this is just my opinion.


I agree, what if Dave Dave is just being..Dave Dave?  If Michael is really alive he hoaxed the death to go away from the media but now we are the ones who can't let him move on and our speculations brought him on the newspapers again.. Let's hope someone from the Jackson family saw the news ..maybe they got something to say
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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I think this went too far T.T ..poor Michael..what if he is really dead? Or what if he is really alive but wants to stay away from the media but we don't let him to  :?
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Romanian press too published it yesterday:

http://www.libertatea.ro/stire/video-mi ... 87497.html
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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well, this is exciting  :D
can mean nothing yet, but I still hope...
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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well, this is exciting  :D
can mean nothing yet, but I still hope...

It is not exciting, the media wasn't the way to do this. This was a bad move!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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I don't know what to say about this all, I mean aren't we waking up sleeping dogs now? I think it's good that everyone knows that Michael is alive, but what if Michael isn't Dave Dave then that rumor is spread now there isn't 100% proof that was Michael, I don't believe Michael was Dave Dave but that's just my opinion. I think we shouldn't go any further in the media let this over to Michael, he is busy with the plans I assume, let this over to him.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this but this is just my opinion.


I feel sorry for Dave, but let's realize that Dave probably cooperated with Mike and could have expected this sooner or later. I think Dave can handle this and let's not forget he is trying to have a career in the music business, as far as we know.

The article might be tabloid trash and definitely not what we agreed on with The Sun, but the website is going crazy today, which means people will read it. And there is a lot of valuable info on it.
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MJ burns victim lookalike sparks rumours he's alive
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A website has claimed that Michael Jackson is alive and masquerading as a burns victim, astonishing users all over the world.

Internet rumours on YouTube and Facebook also claim the King of Pop is appearing on TV talk shows as Dave Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire.

Dave was born David Rothenberg, in Brooklyn, New York. At the age of six, his father set him on fire over a twisted revenge concerning the child's custody.

The little boy suffered 90 percent injuries, and was scarred badly, but survived.

His mother, Marie wrote a book on his ordeal, which was then made into a movie. A trip to Jackson's Neverland ranch was organized for the boy, where the pop star took the boy under his wing.

Dave, now a law student living in Utah, changed his surname to break all ties with his father.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do.

"But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," The Sun quoted the boy as saying.

Now Dave, who appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year, is rumoured to be the pop star himself.

The website called michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, is owned by a 28-year-old and her friend, Mo, who call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had.

"The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," said the website owner.

Lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, rubbished the rumours saying that Jackson would be the last man wanting to study law.

"He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives.

"Dave Dave is an extraordinary young man. Michael Jackson took care of Dave for many years and asked nothing in return," he added.

Jackson died aged 50 in June last year. (ANI)

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Website claiming MJ to be alive, a hit in cyberspace
Press Trust of India
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 (London)

A website claiming that 'King of Pop' Michael Jackson is still alive and posing as a burns victim, has become a hit among the pop star's fans, getting one million hits every day.

The website www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com claim the Thriller hitmaker is appearing on TV talkshows as Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his
father set him on fire, the Sun reported.

However lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, dismissed the rumours.

"The stories that have surfaced on the blogs concerning Michael Jackson still being alive are part of the worldwide grief that everyone whoever loved Michael Jackson now feels. He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives," he said.

Dave born in New York in 1983, survived a terrifying attack by his own father and suffered 90 per cent burns when he was six-years-old.

His mother Marie once took him to Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch as a treat, and the singing legend took lot of interest in him.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do. But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," Dave, who is currently studying in Utah had said earlier.

He also appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year.

Many bloggers feel Dave's high-pitched voice bears a remarkable resemblance to the pop icon's and observers claim his eyes have changed colour from his previous blue/green to brown.

"There's no doubt Michael Jackson is still alive. We have the evidence, now we want to let everyone know," one web forum regular said.

His extensive facial scarring is seen as a perfect cover for Jackson's surgically modified face.

Souza, who runs the website, with her friend Mo call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"Michael Jackson attended Larry King Live on the day of the funeral disguised as Dave Dave. At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had. The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," she said.

Jackson's sudden death at the age of 50 in June last year has been ruled as a drug overdose.


Read more at: http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx ... d=music&cp
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:14:30 AM
I wonder why TMZ hasn't picked up on this yet  :roll:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:22:32 AM
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I don't know what to say about this all, I mean aren't we waking up sleeping dogs now? I think it's good that everyone knows that Michael is alive, but what if Michael isn't Dave Dave then that rumor is spread now there isn't 100% proof that was Michael, I don't believe Michael was Dave Dave but that's just my opinion. I think we shouldn't go any further in the media let this over to Michael, he is busy with the plans I assume, let this over to him.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this but this is just my opinion.


I feel sorry for Dave, but let's realize that Dave probably cooperated with Mike and could have expected this sooner or later. I think Dave can handle this and let's not forget he is trying to have a career in the music business, as far as we know.

The article might be tabloid trash and definitely not what we agreed on with The Sun, but the website is going crazy today, which means people will read it. And there is a lot of valuable info on it.

I understand what you are trying yo say. But have you thought about how this could ruin Michael's plans? How is he suppose to feel now! What if they wanted him dead and he is trying to give ''them'' and you know who I'm talking about  the Illuminati and stuff the biggest punch of all. He outsmarted them we should have let this over to him it was not up to us to go to the media. But that is just my opinion. You have only thought about how this could help the views on our forum and how this could help Dave's carreer but you haven't thought about what this could do for Michael. I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I just think this was a very bad move. But I still respect what you guys are doing but I have a bad feeling about this. Until now not many media sources knew Michael was alive and now they do. And in my opinion that is waking up sleeping dogs.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:26:59 AM
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I don't know what to say about this all, I mean aren't we waking up sleeping dogs now? I think it's good that everyone knows that Michael is alive, but what if Michael isn't Dave Dave then that rumor is spread now there isn't 100% proof that was Michael, I don't believe Michael was Dave Dave but that's just my opinion. I think we shouldn't go any further in the media let this over to Michael, he is busy with the plans I assume, let this over to him.

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this but this is just my opinion.


I feel sorry for Dave, but let's realize that Dave probably cooperated with Mike and could have expected this sooner or later. I think Dave can handle this and let's not forget he is trying to have a career in the music business, as far as we know.

The article might be tabloid trash and definitely not what we agreed on with The Sun, but the website is going crazy today, which means people will read it. And there is a lot of valuable info on it.

I understand what you are trying yo say. But have you thought about how this could ruin Michael's plans? How is he suppose to feel now! What if they wanted him dead and he is trying to give ''them'' and you know who I'm talking about  the Illuminati and stuff the biggest punch of all. He outsmarted them we should have let this over to him it was not up to us to go to the media. But that is just my opinion. You have only thought about how this could help the views on our forum and how this could help Dave's carreer but you haven't thought about what this could do for Michael. I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I just think this was a very bad move. But I still respect what you guys are doing but I have a bad feeling about this. Until now not many media sources knew Michael was alive and now they do. And in my opinion that is waking up sleeping dogs.

I have the same feeling.. unfortunatelly..
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:27:25 AM
Good Lord !!!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:31:14 AM
well I think they have more evidence than just Dave Dave and plus they have access to people who may have been involved and have the money to get them to talk they are just using us as a shield to protect those who have betrayed MJ by telling his secret and the way this is spreading this is just the beginning.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:43:38 AM
My God!This isn't a snowball anymore...we have a giant snowman :shock:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:54:06 AM
http://www.indiatalkies.com/2010/05/mj- ... alive.html

It may be a snowball, but as of yet, none of the major news outlets are reporting this (eg. Sky (also Rupert Murdoch) CNN, BBC, Fox, etc.)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 09:00:29 AM
I WISH MJ WOULD COME ON ALREADY SO I CAN HOLD ON TO THE POSSIBILITY OF RUBBING HIM DOWN ONE DAY...   ;)  :lol:  8-)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 09:44:02 AM
This is crazy guys ! It just prooves how the medias work. They spread "news" without even checking the content and the sources.
The major news outlets won't jump in it because they have a higher level of credibility for the majority of people. Imagine if CNN was broadcasting this news what would happened ?
 
I wonder if TMZ will talk about it ? They must talk about it and let us know if it is good or bad for the hoax.
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 09:53:24 AM
IT'S PERFECT THEY START COMING TO THIS SITE READING ALL THE EVIDENCE ON IT AND GEE WE GOT NEW BELIEVERS!!! @LOYALFAN YES WE NEED THOSE SHIRTS I TOLD YOU MJ WAS ALIVE :) NOW, THERE ARE RUMORS ALSO ABOUT MEXICAN SINGER LUIS MIGUEL HE'S SICK BUT WOW THE MEDIA LAST MONTH SAID HE HAD DIED, RIGHT NOW HE'S SUPPOSEDLY IN A COMA NO ONE KNOWS I FIND IT FUNNY LUIS MIGUEL ONE OF MARIAH CAREY'S EXES OH AND ALSO HOW NICE LUIS MIGUEL (MICHAEL IN SPANISH). I READ ALL SORTS OF SPANISH STUFF SO A FEW MONTHS AGO I CAME ACROSS A SPANISH TABLOID AND THEY WERE COMPARING LUIS MIGUEL TO MICHAEL CUS LUIS MICHAEL WAS OUT AND ABOUT SPORTING SOMETHING ON HIS HAND JUST LIKE MICHAEL. I SAW THE PICTURE AND I LAUGHED CUS I WAS LIKE IN REALITY THESE TWO DO HAVE STUFF IN COMMON LUIS MIGUEL HAS HAD IT TOUGH CHILD STAR HIS FATHER MISTREATED HIM SIMILARITIES AND HE LIVES A RECLUSIVE LIFE.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:00:47 AM
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I understand what you are trying yo say. But have you thought about how this could ruin Michael's plans?

Well excuse me, but this is a PUBLIC website.  EVERYONE can visit and read all that is published on our website, blog and on these boards.  It's not like this is a secret website, that no one knows of.  The hoax has been reported in the media before, just by reporters who visited hoax websites.  The only difference this time is that it's spreading all over the world.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:33:52 AM
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO JUST WANTS TO SCREAMMMMM??? at this???
they saying its cause we cant accept hes gone?! OH MY WORD PEOPLE SOME OF THE BIGGEST HOAX INVESTIGATORS ARE NOT FANS!thats the thing that makes it all the more compelling! if it hadnt been for non-fans and haters i would never have thought of the possibility of him being alive! i just wanna take those people on the sun comments page and SHAKE THEM!!

can we all go onto the sun's comments & defend our beliefs?
i know these tabloid readers are all idiots but they need to be educated!
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:36:27 AM
I want to know why the media cannot do it's own investigating? That, of course, is what they are notorious for.  If anyone can blow the lid off a story it would be the powerful and much more resource-laden ($$$$$$$) media companies. On many levels, it is confusing to me and question why it has taken nearly a full year for this to come about??????  Has anyone else questioned this????? Is there a purpose for it all happening right now?  When does this case (C. Murray) go to court???? Soon, huh?!?!?!?!? Is there any relationship to all of this?!?!?!?  Hmmmmmmmmmm....I wonder?!?!?!?!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:37:12 AM
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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO JUST WANTS TO SCREAMMMMM??? at this???
they saying its cause we cant accept hes gone?! OH MY WORD PEOPLE SOME OF THE BIGGEST HOAX INVESTIGATORS ARE NOT FANS!thats the thing that makes it all the more compelling! if it hadnt been for non-fans and haters i would never have thought of the possibility of him being alive! i just wanna take those people on the sun comments page and SHAKE THEM!!

can we all go onto the sun's comments & defend our beliefs?
i know these tabloid readers are all idiots but they need to be educated!


I don't think it's a question of being a fan or not. A lot of fans do also believe that we're crazy. It's all about the truth here. We are sane people, fan or not. But tabloids do not take these things into account.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:37:42 AM
OH! & also could we please write into the sun and complain? lets make the printouts of the emails to souza and mo public!
even if people choose to remain non believers this is still a great excuse to show the world how ROTTEN tabloids can be!!
or maybe on the other hand the sun contacted MJ's people about the death hoax theories & they warned them not to go into detail & insisted they would only talk about dave dave?just a thought i had?
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:40:13 AM
Three hurrays for the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf!

After I called them and asked them if they would be willing to publish the original 500 words piece The Sun promised us to publish they asked me to put the piece on a separate page so that they could like to it.  And voila, they kept their promise:


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'Michael Jackson leeft'

AMSTERDAM -  Volgens de Britse krant The Sun is Michael Jackson niet dood. Sterker nog, de King of Pop zou zich voordoen als een 33-jarig brandwondenslachtoffer.

Michael Jackson zou volgens The Sun in de huid zijn gekropen van brandwondenslachtoffer 'Dave Dave'. Hij raakte als kind zwaar verminkt toen zijn vader hem overgoot met kerosine en hem in brand stak. Hij werd geboren als David Rothenberg in New York, maar veranderde volgens The Sun zijn naam om alle banden met zijn vader te breken.

De krant schrijft haar bevindingen toe aan het blog Michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, dat gemaakt wordt door twee Nederlandse vrouwen. De blogsite, die vraagtekens plaatst bij de dood van de King of Pop, telt de laatste dagen maar liefst 1 miljoen hits per dag.

De dood van Jackson - vorig jaar juni - houdt de gemoederen, vooral op internet, nog flink bezig. Het Britse boulevardblad meldt dinsdag dat ene 'Dave Dave' ooit vriendschap met Michael Jackson zou hebben gesloten. Jackson zou na zijn geënsceneerde dood in de huid van de man zijn gekropen. Hij zou als Dave Dave onder meer als gast hebben opgetreden in de Amerikaanse talkshow Larry King Live op CNN.

Het blog is allerminst blij met het bericht in The Sun, waarvoor de vrouwen eerder hun medewerking hadden verleend. Volgens de site is het artikel van The Sun 'Is Jacko posing as burn victim?' veel te sensationeel. Ook menen de vrouwen dat het blad zich niet aan de afspraak heeft gehouden.

The word "aspraak" (agreement) is linked to http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... rticle.php

http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/6700410/_ ... l?sn=prive
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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I don't find anything in French medias for the moment...
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:47:02 AM
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can we all go onto the sun's comments & defend our beliefs?
i know these tabloid readers are all idiots but they need to be educated!

I wish you good luck with that  ;)

I already called The Sun this morning as I know that people from these boards have posted comments, yet The Sun only approved the comments which are ridiculing the believers.  They promised to investigate this matter and call me back, but hey, of course, no call so far...


Here's how to contact the reporter who wrote the article in case you want to write a complaint:

Jenna Sloan  

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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 11:22:30 AM
This article is not very supportive, and the comments neither...
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

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The article is twisted. Mo and So didn´t aprove to it yet the sun published and now is hitting the globe  :?


Luís Miguel in a coma? :shock:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

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Gema, there was a two weeks rumour about Luis Miguel in the Cedar Sinai. The rumour went from "he was constipated" to "Luis Miguel died in Cedar Sinai Hospital"... You have it on our Cedar´s Spanish thread.

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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

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I think we will hve to get T-shirt like

"if you were Michael Jackson in another life, but now lives in secret with disguise, please come talk to me !" :lol:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 11:50:23 AM
So ckkhis. One of my ex roommate from when I was in london called me to let me know aboutthis article even thou I had read about it all here. Sh knows about us and the forum coz I have proudly told her about it and my opinions about the hoax. So instead of admitting that there is a possibilty of a hoax here, she mocked us askig me if this is what we have been discussing inour forums.. But guess what, I told her about theeal deal exactly the way it happened and she was shocked. Also showed her this link to mo's thread about the emails. She apologized.
So I can see how this can damage our name but heck we dint give a shit. I wish there was a way to publish the whole set of emails so people can know what's going on!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 12:07:32 PM
They got to be kiddin me ! They're actually proving that they do really copy from each other . Not that I didn't know that but the fact that I and all of us here know where they got it and how it got spread !
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 12:08:29 PM
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I want to know why the media cannot do it's own investigating? That, of course, is what they are notorious for.  If anyone can blow the lid off a story it would be the powerful and much more resource-laden ($$$$$$$) media companies. On many levels, it is confusing to me and question why it has taken nearly a full year for this to come about??????  Has anyone else questioned this????? Is there a purpose for it all happening right now?  When does this case (C. Murray) go to court???? Soon, huh?!?!?!?!? Is there any relationship to all of this?!?!?!?  Hmmmmmmmmmm....I wonder?!?!?!?!

The media worked tirelessy to bring MJ down, what makes you think they would actual earn their pay checks and do some instigative journalism. Copy and Paste Journalism is the new standards. MJ knew it long b4 we did, and now its coming to a head.
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 12:23:03 PM
It would be more like "read and paste only what I think to be interesting" anyway jounalism is never easy. I mean, even when you say something to someone and ask to repeat it to someone else, there is the way you say what you think, the way the person understand what you said, and the way he will repeat it with his own words. So even simple message can be twisted. Then you add money research, to print only what will make people buy the paper, then you add specific choices like being "politically correct/friendly to this or that religion/group/politic/society/type of paper (tabloid, family, financial, religious...) And you get the final article of what you first wanted to say. If you look for reality, you shouldn't read the news  :mrgreen:

In fact it's not "be careful what you say" it's more about "be careful who you talk to"
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 12:24:47 PM
It's crazy how fast it's spreading. Nothing in the US yet as far as I know.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 12:41:27 PM
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They got to be kiddin me ! They're actually proving that they do really copy from each other . Not that I didn't know that but the fact that I and all of us here know where they got it and how it got spread !

Yes exactly my thoughts they are just proving to the world how they work. It is live proof guys ! I hope that Michael will use this in his movie.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 12:59:26 PM
Here we go! Also here in Italy they talked about it on "Studio Aperto".
I hope they'll post soon the vid on their website.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:14:24 PM
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It would be more like "read and paste only what I think to be interesting" anyway jounalism is never easy. I mean, even when you say something to someone and ask to repeat it to someone else, there is the way you say what you think, the way the person understand what you said, and the way he will repeat it with his own words. So even simple message can be twisted. Then you add money research, to print only what will make people buy the paper, then you add specific choices like being "politically correct/friendly to this or that religion/group/politic/society/type of paper (tabloid, family, financial, religious...) And you get the final article of what you first wanted to say. If you look for reality, you shouldn't read the news  :mrgreen:

In fact it's not "be careful what you say" it's more about "be careful who you talk to"

If these journalist (and i use that term lightly) did this in college, even high school. They would be kicked out for plagarism. I dont understand how school dont tolerate this non-sense, but the general public does. This hoax is more important I originally thought.
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no one finds it odd that Oxman represents DD. How do you think Oxman got into contact with DD? If DD didnt let mj use his idenity, Oxman wouldnt be representing him, he would not need professonal(celebrity)  representation. This, to me, is the confirmation that DD was MJ on LKL.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:21:55 PM
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The Sun collects the rumors that run on the web and that would identify a singer in Jack's face disfigured by burns. A website says Michael Jackson is still alive and appears as a boy burned: this is the incredible Incipio an article by Jenna Sloan on the Sun , the site in question is michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com . pages on which it is stated: "There is no doubt Michael Jackson is still alive. We have the evidence, now we want to make it known to all. "

Unprecedented violence - Sloan reports that the King of Pop appears on TV as Dave Dave, 33, whose real name is David Rothenberg, New York. In 1983, aged just six years has suffered a violent act committed by his father that he burned: revenge for the mother of Dave during the proceedings to obtain custody of the child, Charles Rothenberg poured kerosene on her son while slept in a hotel room. Rothenberg was then sentenced to six years in prison. The boy even though his body covered with burns to 90% is incredibly survived, with serious consequences course design and functionality. Dave would later got to know that Michael Jackson would have treated affectionately.

ELEPHANTS AND FLYWHEEL - Fans Forum are trying to justify the fanciful theory with two arguments, the confusion with which the media gave the news of the death of Jackson as relate with conviction: "The media has told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported that he died six minutes before the doctor declares him dead, while CNN kept telling us that he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery. " The second claim that Dave would be the famous singer is based on his artistic talents and voice, because in the opinion of many of the acute Voe Dave would have a significant similarity with that of the interpreter of Thriller. And then exaggerate them can be forgiven only imagine what they would like to still their idol with them: for the second Souza, a blogger and director of michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com "Michael Jackson was in the Larry King Live on the day of the funeral disguised as Dave Dave." Here, the impression is that this is only the first of many similar stories, and if they can do without.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:37:20 PM
haha finally it's starting...I mean it took them long enough didn't it ;)  ;)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:40:31 PM
This is wild!  :lol:
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This is interesting in more ways than one.  The papers are all drawing attention to this site and thru that to the other hoax sites well.  It is spreading like wild fire.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
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Three hurrays for the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf!

After I called them and asked them if they would be willing to publish the original 500 words piece The Sun promised us to publish they asked me to put the piece on a separate page so that they could like to it.  And voila, they kept their promise:


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'Michael Jackson leeft'

AMSTERDAM -  Volgens de Britse krant The Sun is Michael Jackson niet dood. Sterker nog, de King of Pop zou zich voordoen als een 33-jarig brandwondenslachtoffer.

Michael Jackson zou volgens The Sun in de huid zijn gekropen van brandwondenslachtoffer 'Dave Dave'. Hij raakte als kind zwaar verminkt toen zijn vader hem overgoot met kerosine en hem in brand stak. Hij werd geboren als David Rothenberg in New York, maar veranderde volgens The Sun zijn naam om alle banden met zijn vader te breken.

De krant schrijft haar bevindingen toe aan het blog Michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, dat gemaakt wordt door twee Nederlandse vrouwen. De blogsite, die vraagtekens plaatst bij de dood van de King of Pop, telt de laatste dagen maar liefst 1 miljoen hits per dag.

De dood van Jackson - vorig jaar juni - houdt de gemoederen, vooral op internet, nog flink bezig. Het Britse boulevardblad meldt dinsdag dat ene 'Dave Dave' ooit vriendschap met Michael Jackson zou hebben gesloten. Jackson zou na zijn geënsceneerde dood in de huid van de man zijn gekropen. Hij zou als Dave Dave onder meer als gast hebben opgetreden in de Amerikaanse talkshow Larry King Live op CNN.

Het blog is allerminst blij met het bericht in The Sun, waarvoor de vrouwen eerder hun medewerking hadden verleend. Volgens de site is het artikel van The Sun 'Is Jacko posing as burn victim?' veel te sensationeel. Ook menen de vrouwen dat het blad zich niet aan de afspraak heeft gehouden.

The word "aspraak" (agreement) is linked to http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... rticle.php

http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/6700410/_ ... l?sn=prive

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:46:05 PM
OMG, now that is a snowball effect!!!

Poor MJ, now they (The Sun) twisted everything around everyone will believe MJ disguises as a "burn victim"... Oh my..
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
Still doesn't prove Michael is alive...  :(

Good thing is that people might start reading about the investigation here on the forum and open their eyes to all the oddities instead of accepting just accepting Michael's dead. If Michael did pass away people need to start questioning everything surrounding this case and not just narrow it down to drug use  :roll: . Michael (and everyone who's been treated unfairly) deserved that at least. I still do not believe Dave Dave was Michael and feel sorry for him. I think he'd be happier without this publicity...
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:50:08 PM
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Apparently today has been a big news day.  It has spread all over the world.

Don't know who or what tipped them off, but I'm surely not happy about it.

The only evidence presented by the media, is about Dave Dave possibly being MJ in disguise.

This alone is not concrete evidence.  Why didn't they talk about the fake autopsy report, the fake death certificate, the fake time line etc.........

This type of attention makes us lose credibility.  Its a mockery.!!

Not really, think about it.  Many will come to the site and start searching the threads themselves and form their own opinions.  What it really will show is there are some people here that have done some pretty strong investigative work and that we are no "lunes" at all.  One paper in Australia has already linked to the Dave Dave thread.  I'm sure other media outlets will take their cue and link to other threads here on the forum.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:54:48 PM
I am waiting to see if there is any comment from anybody in Michael's family.  If they get to hear of this and Michael has really gone then surely one of them will speak up and say, without any shadow of a doubt, that Michael DID pass away?

Let's wait and see.  If this goes global and there is nothing from the Jackson family in reaction to it, then it's obvious that we were right all along!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 01:57:04 PM
For those counting:

today is May 11 -> 5 + 2 = 7
2010 = 2 + 1 = 3
7 + 3 = 10 -> 1
1 is the number of success & leadership.

Congrats...
Did you trigger this date, Souza & Mo?
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 02:07:18 PM

Congratulations, Souza and Mo! Your contact with the Sun journalist made quite an impact - worldwide. We shouldn`t understimate this....

But unfortunately it shows how "copy and paste journalism" works. The german articles I read today (all like "MJ is living on as his burn victim friend" or so) were really annoying.

The whole thing raised my suspicion that there might be something like a media ban on MJ, like an - unwritten - order to suppress any "favourable stuff" about him, i.e. as a rule  only absurd or ridiculous news are allowed  (like "weirdness is alive") ....  

Thanks God the dutch press reacted a little differently! At least Netherland`s  media seems to be more "open minded" ... researching for some more details.

By the way, I did not know that this website gets a million clicks per day --- WOW!

It seems like you = we are experiencing the same kind of media circus like MJ had to throughout his lifetiume:  Media / press are picking statements out of context, twisting stories, change the quintessential, making up other "fairy tales", suggesting a totally different message by following their own guidelines ... for a bigger picture?  Showing what they want to show us?

Well, I think I am going to start believing in conspiracies right now.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 02:40:15 PM
It has been quite the ride so far today.  We knew that an article in The Sun would create a snowball effect, but this is more than we expected.

This afternoon we were contacted by three Dutch news channels - BNN, TMF and SBS6.  BNN and TMF requested for radio interviews, SBS6 requested for a TV interview.  We told them that due to safety reasons we don't want to appear national radio and TV, but if they want to do items about the hoax and have sincere intentions, we are of course willing to cooperate and provide them with information.

All three were very dismayed about what The Sun did, and we had good conversations of around 15 minutes with each of them.  They had all read the email correspondence with Jenna Sloan and the original piece we wrote for The Sun, and were stunned to hear our additional information on the piece.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 02:54:39 PM
I think this is good and bad.

Its good because this is EXACTLY what MJ was talking about all these years concerning how the media twists the truth. They LIE. One rag mag reports something and they all go with it without investingating the REAL story.


Its bad because now, everyone will look at MJ disguised as a burn victim and be mortified, which will be very, very bad for him. Like another member said....I dont think this is how MJ wanted this to go. However, IF he was DD on Larry King then how will he explain himself? Why DID he disguise himself as a burn victim and not someone else? I mean, had anyone even heard of Dave Dave before all this?

Has anyone checked DD's Myspace page lately? Im sure he now knows he is a worldwide topic now...
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 02:59:12 PM
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I think this is good and bad.

Its good because this is EXACTLY what MJ was talking about all these years concerning how the media twists the truth. They LIE. One rag mag reports something and they all go with it without investingating the REAL story.


Its bad because now, everyone will look at MJ disguised as a burn victim and be mortified, which will be very, very bad for him. Like another member said....I dont think this is how MJ wanted this to go. However, IF he was DD on Larry King then how will he explain himself? Why DID he disguise himself as a burn victim and not someone else? I mean, had anyone even heard of Dave Dave before all this?

Has anyone checked DD's Myspace page lately? Im sure he now knows he is a worldwide topic now...


I think he knew that already judging by how many friends (fans) he has and why was he leaving all those cryptic messages?  He is very mysterious.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
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I think this is good and bad.

Its good because this is EXACTLY what MJ was talking about all these years concerning how the media twists the truth. They LIE. One rag mag reports something and they all go with it without investingating the REAL story.


Its bad because now, everyone will look at MJ disguised as a burn victim and be mortified, which will be very, very bad for him. Like another member said....I dont think this is how MJ wanted this to go. However, IF he was DD on Larry King then how will he explain himself? Why DID he disguise himself as a burn victim and not someone else? I mean, had anyone even heard of Dave Dave before all this?

Has anyone checked DD's Myspace page lately? Im sure he now knows he is a worldwide topic now...


I think he knew that already judging by how many friends (fans) he has and why was he leaving all those cryptic messages?  He is very mysterious.


I know that, I mean NOW though after all the newspapers of the world have published this article....
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 03:01:23 PM
Somehow I think Dave is prepared.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 03:35:37 PM
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Congratulations, Souza and Mo! Your contact with the Sun journalist made quite an impact - worldwide. We shouldn`t understimate this....

But unfortunately it shows how "copy and paste journalism" works. The german articles I read today (all like "MJ is living on as his burn victim friend" or so) were really annoying.

It seems like you = we are experiencing the same kind of media circus MJ had to live throughout his lifetiume:  Media / press are picking statements out of context, twisting stories, change the quintessential, making up other "fairy tales", suggesting a totally different message by following their own guidelines ... for a bigger picture?  Showing what they want to show us?

I THINK THAT ALL THE MEDIA CAN COPY AND PASTE ALL WHAT THEY WANT, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS HOAX ABOUT ALMOST A YEAR AGO AND JUST NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT US... THEY KNOW BEFORE TODAY THAT WE EXISTS... BUT NOW THAY ARE TALKING!
MAYBE AT SOME POINT THEY THINK IS POSIBLE... IF THIS COMES FROM MJ, WHO KNOWS?!
THEY DON´T PUBLISH WHAT "THEY" THINK IS "GARBAGE", SO MAYBE THEY ARE OPEN THE DOOR... AND THEN BAM! :mrgreen:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 04:23:21 PM
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I think this is good and bad.

Its good because this is EXACTLY what MJ was talking about all these years concerning how the media twists the truth. They LIE. One rag mag reports something and they all go with it without investingating the REAL story.


Its bad because now, everyone will look at MJ disguised as a burn victim and be mortified, which will be very, very bad for him. Like another member said....I dont think this is how MJ wanted this to go. However, IF he was DD on Larry King then how will he explain himself? Why DID he disguise himself as a burn victim and not someone else? I mean, had anyone even heard of Dave Dave before all this?

Has anyone checked DD's Myspace page lately? Im sure he now knows he is a worldwide topic now...

yes maybe we didn't have to stress much on Dave Dave but on many other things (even tho is weird DD wasn't a public person but suddenly he appears on TV the same day of the memorial after he died) . But if that information is not true it will bring even more speculations and problems to Michael. Tho i don't think DD is Michael.. he wouldn't "joke" with that and disguise himself as a burn victim.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:11:08 PM
The most interesting fact is that despite the unquestioned copy & paste information sharing there were very beautiful photographs of Mike chosen for the publications. This is A LOT different from what we witnessed during the last months.

Interestingly the picture frequently chosen for Dave was with a bowler.
Remember the recent bowler photo game with the apple head by TMZ?

IMHO this is not happening by accident.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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FOTOS: Aparece hombre que asegura haber sido novio de Michael JacksonUn empresario dice que Michael Jackson fue su novioPreparan una nueva película sobre Michael JacksonUn nuevo reclamo a la fortuna de Michael JacksonCada vez más crecen los rumores en Internet sobre que Michael Jackson no está muerto. Ahora una página web asegura que el cantante se camufla en la identidad de Dave Dave, un joven que sufrió severas quemaduras ocasionadas por su propio padre.


Particularmente, un portal michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com asegura que el "rey del pop" no ha muerto. "No hay duda de Michael Jackson sigue vivo. Tenemos las pruebas, ahora queremos que todos lo sepan", señala dicho sitio.


Como se recuerda, Dave, quien estuvo bajo la protección de Jackson, apareció en el programa de Larry King para hablar sobre sus recuerdos del intérprete de "Thriller" en el mismo día de las exequias de la estrellas el año pasado.


Pero el portal citado manifiesta que el mismo día que fue el propio Jackson que asistió al programa de reconocido entrevistador. Así lo asegura Souza, blogger y administrador de dicho portal.


Otra de las administradoras, Mo, de 40 años, contó las motivaciones que los llevaron a investigar sobre la muerte del cantante.


"Los medios de comunicación nos contó dos historias diferentes. TMZ.com informó que murió seis minutos antes de que el médico lo declaró muerto, mientras que la CNN nos decía que estaba en coma. ¿Qué ocurrió realmente sigue siendo un misterio", precisó Mo.


El Brian Oxman, quien actúa como vocero Dave, ha acallado los rumores, diciendo a The Sun: "Las historias que han surgido en los blogs que Michael Jackson todavía está vivo son parte de la pena que aún todo el mundo siente por la lamentable pérdida".

BRIAN OXMAN SPOKESPERSON OF DAVE???  :roll:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:29:44 PM
yes, copy and paste ONE SAME ARTICLE ALL OVER THE WORLD. Usually you know each place changes a bit of the article and this isn't changed the only change is the language. This is freaky. Comes from da Man open the door BAM now let's get the KFC feast started. I have good feeling I feel it I dunno why but I feel something great coming...........
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:34:35 PM
One article in french.This one is not a copy translated of the original.It doesn't seems to ridicule us that much... and they show some videos.

http://www.20min.ch/ro/entertainment/pe ... e-18754925
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:39:49 PM
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One article in french.This one is not a copy translated of the original.It doesn't seems to ridicule us that much... and they show some videos.

http://www.20min.ch/ro/entertainment/pe ... e-18754925

Yes and he calls him "Bambi" not...you know.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:41:09 PM
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One article in french.This one is not a copy translated of the original.It doesn't seems to ridicule us that much... and they show some videos.

http://www.20min.ch/ro/entertainment/pe ... e-18754925

Yes and he calls him "Bambi" not...you know.

Yes,you're right! ;)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: "RK"
In some strange twisted way, it almost feels right to be viewed as a crazy because of believing in the hoax. Media viewed MJ that way, so why not his beLIEvers. I don't think I expected anything less.
Love that song by Bonnie by the way. :)

it's an everyday thing RK my family says you want Michael alive. I'm like yeah I don't have a problem admitting it. The "death" stunned me since the beginning at that point I knew almost nothing of Mike but I do remember thinking one time I saw him on a tabloid at the store I was like the guy just wants to live a normal life kinda pist me off. Then, the "death" came and at the moment I said nope not dead plus I saw how flat the body looked when it was airlifted, mom was like maybe this dude isn't dead that doesn't look like a body thanks mom u just confirmed it to me lol! I found the hoax forum I saw yeah baby now i'm a fan I feel cheated my generation didn't get to listen to much of him cus of the media. Mike has flaws I'm not gonna say ooh no he won't do this or that but he's got qualities I wish more ppl had go Mike!
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 06:15:10 PM
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This article is not very supportive, and the comments neither...

Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This article is not very supportive, and the comments neither...

Yep, I know. These were my feelings after reading the article. I'm not being negative, don't get me wrong but that's why I don't understand so much excitement about this...
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 06:23:21 PM
MEXICAN NEWSGROUP TELEVISA HAS CAUGHT ON:

Aseguran que Michael Jackson sigue vivo
Por: Redacción| Fuente: Televisa Espectáculos| 2010-05-10
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    * Aseguran que Michael Jackson sigue vivo

      Foto: The Grosby Group
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Circula por la red la versión que señala que 'El Rey del Pop' sigue vivo bajo otra apariencia

Dicen que Michael Jackson no ha muerto y sigue vivo bajo la identidad de una persona con fuertes quemaduras en el rostro.

Según información de la página web thesun.co.uk, 'El Rey del Pop' apareció en algunos programas de televisión con el nombre de Dave Dave.

Dave Dave es conocido como David Rothenberg, tiene 33 años y hace tiempo visitó el rancho Neverland, a petición de la estrella de pop.

Poco después de la muerte del cantante, Dave participó en la emisión de Larry King donde reveló el encuentro con el intérprete.

Los rumores iniciaron luego de darse a conocer la entrevista donde el hombre hablaba muy parecido a Jackson.

Así como ahora se especula que Michael no ha muerto, en su momento se dijo lo mismo de otras leyendas como Elvis Presley, Pedro Infante y Jim Morrison.

http://www2.esmas.com/entretenimiento/f ... -identidad
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
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This is crazy guys ! It just prooves how the medias work. They spread "news" without even checking the content and the sources.
The major news outlets won't jump in it because they have a higher level of credibility for the majority of people. Imagine if CNN was broadcasting this news what would happened ?
 
I wonder if TMZ will talk about it ? They must talk about it and let us know if it is good or bad for the hoax.


Good God almighty!  
what is happening here?
This is the PERFECT example of what the tabloids do.  Network so that their junk gets spread like a virus to every corner of the world.  Little changes and add ins here and there.  This certainly proves what Michael was trying to tell the world.  In less than 24 hours.  This is incredible.  WOW. Proof perfect!  They couldn't wait a minute to get it and spread it like wildfire.  MICHAEL JACKSON, I FEEL YOUR PAIN.  

Mo, Souza, Dave Dave, Larry King, MJDEATHHOAXFORUM INVESTIGATORS, WE ARE CELEBRITY :lol:   Get your green screens ready and in position for your cameos.  It's gonna be a bumpy ride.  Lord, this is incredible.  Poor Michael.  I know they drove him nuts!
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 06:24:38 PM
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This article is not very supportive, and the comments neither...

Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This article is not very supportive, and the comments neither...

Yep, I know. These were my feelings after reading the article. I'm not being negative, don't get me wrong but that's why I don't understand so much excitement about this...

its good that the news that a hoax is out there in the media, its sad that they only focused on the "juicy" bit aka Dave Dave... which further mocks michael and gives the media more ammo aganst him.  and also good that we see first hand that the media will twist anything to their liking..... the exact thing that michael was telling us for years
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 06:34:40 PM
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This article is not very supportive, and the comments neither...

Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This article is not very supportive, and the comments neither...

Yep, I know. These were my feelings after reading the article. I'm not being negative, don't get me wrong but that's why I don't understand so much excitement about this...

True the article is negative, but then let's look at the positive part there will be some ppl who will even out of boredom u name it whatever will say gee yeah let me go visit that forum let's see what they have out of darn curiosity they'll land here and then they'll read all the evidence bam we got a new believers ;)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 07:36:59 PM
Here's another one. Sorry if this has been posted already!!

http://www.gigwise.com/news/56279/Micha ... Larry-King
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
I'M AT WORK WE HAVE A TV, UNIVISION IS REALLY SPREADING THE NEWS IN THEIR NEWS SHOW "PRIMER IMPACTO" THEY ARE SAYING THAT IT'S AN INTERNET RUMOR AND THAT THE JACKSONS HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR DISCONTENT ABOUT THIS. SERIOUSLY, HAVE WE MISSED SOMETHING HAVE THEY SAID ANYTHING. MY COWORKER IS :o
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:37:32 PM
They print my message in the Saturday Sun, I had to tell 'em I ain't second to none....

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 08:38:45 PM
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I'M AT WORK WE HAVE A TV, UNIVISION IS REALLY SPREADING THE NEWS IN THEIR NEWS SHOW "PRIMER IMPACTO" THEY ARE SAYING THAT IT'S AN INTERNET RUMOR AND THAT THE JACKSONS HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR DISCONTENT ABOUT THIS. SERIOUSLY, HAVE WE MISSED SOMETHING HAVE THEY SAID ANYTHING. MY COWORKER IS :o

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I have some serious concerns about this tribute to my brother on the 25th of June in Rome..
First, where are the proceeds from ticket sales going...??

Second, the coordinator is telling fans that my brother is alive & will be there in disguise.... That deeply disturbs me.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 09:17:10 PM
Thanks MJ Tinkerbell :o it disturbs him where are the tix sales going mmm......those are pretty weird tweets he lost me lol!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 10:12:11 PM
Well the article became one of the most viewed videos in australia, and will be a a permanent link for it for sometime I'd say....
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Re: UNIVISION SAYS MJ ALIVE

  • on: May 11, 2010, 11:08:27 PM
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its good that the news that a hoax is out there in the media, its sad that they only focused on the "juicy" bit aka Dave Dave... which further mocks michael and gives the media more ammo against him.  and also good that we see first hand that the media will twist anything to their liking..... the exact thing that michael was telling us for years

Yes, but Michael also said “tabloid news are garbage”, “don't trust in what is said in tabloids”.

Problem is you don’t  read tabloids to see how Wall Street or global economy goes, you read them looking for some LMAO or bizarre news. Then, people click the link and some title such as  “Is Jacko posing as burns victim?” does appear.
Afterwards, they read the whole article: it basicly says that there are some people on the net claiming that  Michael Jackson is alive and that we’ve seen him under  a disguise of a burning victim that was also his friend... people aren't gonna take this seriously, I know I wouldn’t. It makes less credible the whole thing,  that’s why I think it wasn’t the best move at all, but that’s just my opinion.

I highly doubt people are gonna make any deep rational analysis of this. In a couple of days this will be old news. At the end of the day, we are gonna be laughed at and called crazy, but now in a lot of languages.

Of course I really hope being wrong! Thanks for your answer!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 11, 2010, 11:29:24 PM
I never admitted that Dave Dave is  Michael in disguise.Michael cannot pose like he is one of those he considers friend or anybody famous. Michael's disguise I believe looks like no one.
On the other hand, spreading this site and hoax subject is good, may be, so Michael's come back won't be too shocking for non believers. Otherwise, there will be mass hysteria and lawsuits against MJ.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 12:42:28 AM
Mo and Souza you are on the road to doing the Larry King Show. Congrats :) The world is aware. WOW!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 01:52:31 AM
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WOW....that's in the Australian News.  This morning they talked about MJ's children and how there is chaos in the Jackson home, and how the children might be put into care.

We don't usually get that much information down here in Australia.  This is a mixed article, but it always hints towards "us" believers being "crazy" and in denial. 

It's the first time I heard that Brian Oxman knew about and denied the rumours.

So when did Oxman read all of theses forums.?????????

At least the internet hot searches is getting alot of attention now.

Good or bad or ugly, it doesn't matter.  At least it gets out there. 

We have power in numbers.  Imagine what else we can do with that.  As always with L.O.V.E  xoxo    Australia.

I am so surprised that Brian Oxman even knows about the hoax sites.  Maybe if people look at the LKL show with Dave Dave with a second time.  The non-believers may not think we are crazy.
Yes, there are power in numbers.  God bless you for this very important point that you have may.

Re: 4 souza: you MADE IT!!!!
by topsecretgirl » Tue May 11, 2010 7:37 pm

First: Well done Souza & Mo ! 
Second: It's strange that now all of a sudden the news is spreading and even Brian Oxman is commenting on it...well of course he can't say, yes it's true!

That is my thought.  Oxman is not going to say where MJ is and that the hoax is true.  From June 25, 2009, nothing about MJ's supposed death has made sense to me. I am going to keep on going until I know that truth of what happened to MJ.  The Truth will set me freedom.  Maybe then the jigsaw will fit together, but as it stands now the whole jigsaw is missing for me.  God bless you all for your continual love, your support and your faith in L.O.V.E and our beloved MJ! xxxxx Keep The Faith!  <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 01:56:20 AM
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http://story.albuquerqueexpress.com/ind ... 3722/cs/1/

MJ burns victim lookalike sparks rumours he's alive
Albuquerque Express
Tuesday 11th May, 2010  
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A website has claimed that Michael Jackson is alive and masquerading as a burns victim, astonishing users all over the world.

Internet rumours on YouTube and Facebook also claim the King of Pop is appearing on TV talk shows as Dave Dave, 33, a man who suffered severe facial disfigurement after his father set him on fire.

Dave was born David Rothenberg, in Brooklyn, New York. At the age of six, his father set him on fire over a twisted revenge concerning the child's custody.

The little boy suffered 90 percent injuries, and was scarred badly, but survived.

His mother, Marie wrote a book on his ordeal, which was then made into a movie. A trip to Jackson's Neverland ranch was organized for the boy, where the pop star took the boy under his wing.

Dave, now a law student living in Utah, changed his surname to break all ties with his father.

"He befriended me. He took me into his life, which is very rare for Michael to do.

"But he opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years, he never let me go," The Sun quoted the boy as saying.

Now Dave, who appeared on the Larry King show to talk about his memories of Jackson on the day of the star's memorial service last year, is rumoured to be the pop star himself.

The website called michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, is owned by a 28-year-old and her friend, Mo, who call themselves Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.

"At first we started investigating Michael's death as it was a gut feeling we both had.

"The media told us two different stories. TMZ.com reported he died six minutes before the doctor pronounced him dead, and CNN kept telling us he was in a coma. What really happened still remains a mystery," said the website owner.

Lawyer Brian Oxman, who acts as Dave's spokesman, rubbished the rumours saying that Jackson would be the last man wanting to study law.

"He was so remarkable that people find it difficult to believe he is no longer with us. They long for him to remain a part of our lives.

"Dave Dave is an extraordinary young man. Michael Jackson took care of Dave for many years and asked nothing in return," he added.

Jackson died aged 50 in June last year. (ANI)

Wow, the news has spread to the USA ;) .  Praise be to God.  Mo, I love it! Blessings and Love to all here on this wonderful forum! xxxxxx
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 02:07:18 AM

About Brian Oxman's comments in the article from The Sun:

Do we really know what Oxman told The Sun?  No, we don't.  Maybe Oxman sent Jenna Sloan a 500 words piece also that she ripped apart, like she did with our piece..?  For all we know Sloan may have even sucked this out of her thumb, she's clearly one who can't be trusted.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 02:48:07 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

About Brian Oxman's comments in the article from The Sun:

Do we really know what Oxman told The Sun?  No, we don't.  Maybe Oxman sent Jenna Sloan a 500 words piece also that she ripped apart, like she did with our piece..?  For all we know Sloan may have even sucked this out of her thumb, she's clearly one who can't be trusted.

At Mo, I agree, but this is to be expected.  We will be called nutters, crazies, etc. but we will have the last laugh along with Michael!  We're in this for the long haul.  He said "give me your patience, your endurance."  We're here for you, Michael!  We will endure the ridicule, the pick and choose selective media, the copy and paste journalism.  We will ride this horse to VICTORY!   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 04:01:47 AM
well..now i'm waiting 4 the jacksons will SAY STOP to all this newspapers
c'mon!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 04:31:26 AM
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I understand what you are trying yo say. But have you thought about how this could ruin Michael's plans?

Well excuse me, but this is a PUBLIC website.  EVERYONE can visit and read all that is published on our website, blog and on these boards.  It's not like this is a secret website, that no one knows of.  The hoax has been reported in the media before, just by reporters who visited hoax websites.  The only difference this time is that it's spreading all over the world.

I totally agree with you Mo
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 06:12:27 AM
IL CORRIERE DELLA SERA (Italia)
....«Michael partecipò al “Larry King Live” il giorno del funerale travestito da Dave Dave – ha spiegato al “Sun” la 28enne olandese Souza, blogger e amministratrice di “michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com” insieme con l’amica Mo -. Fin dall’inizio, la stampa ci ha raccontato due storie diverse sulla morte: secondo TMZ.com, sarebbe morto sei minuti prima che il medico ne decretasse il decesso, mentre la CNN continuava a ripetere che era in coma. Cosa sia davvero successo resta, però, ancora un mistero». Ma la possibilità che Michael sia vivo e agisca sotto le mentite spoglie del povero Dave viene fermamente negata dall’avvocato di quest’ultimo, Brian Oxman. ...........

http://tinyurl.com/354y8ed

Talk about it everywhere.... Are we at the final rehearsal ?? :)

PS @Mo & Souza welcome in Italy girls!  :lol:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 08:46:28 AM
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IL CORRIERE DELLA SERA (Italia)
....«Michael partecipò al “Larry King Live” il giorno del funerale travestito da Dave Dave – ha spiegato al “Sun” la 28enne olandese Souza, blogger e amministratrice di “michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com” insieme con l’amica Mo -. Fin dall’inizio, la stampa ci ha raccontato due storie diverse sulla morte: secondo TMZ.com, sarebbe morto sei minuti prima che il medico ne decretasse il decesso, mentre la CNN continuava a ripetere che era in coma. Cosa sia davvero successo resta, però, ancora un mistero». Ma la possibilità che Michael sia vivo e agisca sotto le mentite spoglie del povero Dave viene fermamente negata dall’avvocato di quest’ultimo, Brian Oxman. ...........

http://tinyurl.com/354y8ed

Talk about it everywhere.... Are we at the final rehearsal ?? :)

PS @Mo & Souza welcome in Italy girls!  :lol:

Thank you sweetie!
Looking forward to the next move....
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
it's made it to television over in Australia. See either http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/entertainment/ or morning show channel 7.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 07:21:39 PM
And again on Australian Television " The Morning Show"  .  There was a whole segment about it, and they were a bit more positive.

The headline being " Michael Jackson Death Hoax".

This time the reporter said it all started with the administrators being interviewed by the Sun, and that he also has read alot of this site.  At least that's more positive. 

And he said that Dave Dave has not denied any of these rumours either.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

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And again on Australian Television " The Morning Show"  .  There was a whole segment about it, and they were a bit more positive.

The headline being " Michael Jackson Death Hoax".

This time the reporter said it all started with the administrators being interviewed by the Sun, and that he also has read alot of this site.  At least that's more positive. 

As always, with L.O.V.E  xoxoxo

That's indeed positive news to hear!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 07:44:17 PM
and they showed a lot of the dave dave on LKL side by side with video of MJ so it may get a lot more people to open their eyes.
I contacted Nelson Aspen, sunrise's entertainment reporter from Hollywood via twitter yesterday pleading with him to look into it properly and be the first on air in Australia to show an unbiased view of the hoax and he responded to me early this morning to let me know it was going to air.
When the sunrise programme uploads the vid of his story, i'll post the link here for you.

They just put it up, http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/entertainment/-/19808296

The first half of the story shows the leaked audio tapes from ages ago ( old news) but then Nelson gets into the hoax theories and mentions this website.

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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 11:36:23 PM
I was watching the other channel here in Aus it was also on Kerri Anne, Jamie did the segment and showed footage of Dave Dave and spoke about the website and how many hits it recieves a day, Jamie said it's really worth having a look at.  :D I think we might have a new believer, although he didn't say it. They spoke about it again with a radio personality here and he said that this is not going to be the last we hear of it and that it's going to be a big story over the coming weeks !!!!!!!!!!
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 12, 2010, 11:43:05 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

i think they may be right!
WOO-HOO!!!!!

BRING IT ON ;)
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 13, 2010, 04:33:05 PM
Wow that's amazing how quickly it spread. I have a feeling though here in the US we won't be hearing about it. I haven't seen anything here at all. When I do a search for the article title I get a lot of hits for London, India, etc, but not the US. I'm not surprised though. They only feed us what they want us to see.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 14, 2010, 01:43:12 AM
I know I post a lot but I feel what I have to say is important here. Has anyone ever thought of the Lord of the Rings effect here? What I mean by this is keep "THE EYE" fixed on us here at the hoax site, we the believers, the eye being the tabloids and the news media etc....the snowball that is happening right now and while that EYE is fixed on us Frodo aka Michael actually has more leverage to move about, make a move, stay hidden, do whatever he needs to do. This may not be a bad thing....but it still leaves the dangling question about the confounded Sunflowers?????? lol
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 14, 2010, 03:23:04 AM
Agree about Michael being able to move around and whatever.  Also this has brought alot of new readers here to this forum... which is a good thing.  Let's face it, the SUN was reading this forum long before they contacted M&S.  They gave that away when they asked about the Illuminati.  They wanted to write something anyway.  When they wanted some quick topics instead of reading through millions of pages, it was much easier and quicker to just ask.  But now there is also topic of how and what they actually corresponded with proof of how media twists the truth.  I wouldn't worry too much about Dave Dave...this news was out on youtube months ago when appeared on LKL and he played along with his cryptic self ... he could have stopped it back then.  I say welcome to all the new forum readers from all around the world!   :mrgreen:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: May 26, 2010, 11:01:02 AM
I understand what you are trying yo say. But have you thought about how this could ruin Michael's plans? How is he suppose to feel now! What if they wanted him dead and he is trying to give ''them'' and you know who I'm talking about the Illuminati and stuff the biggest punch of all. He outsmarted them we should have let this over to him it was not up to us to go to the media. But that is just my opinion. You have only thought about how this could help the views on our forum and how this could help Dave's carreer but you haven't thought about what this could do for Michael. I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I just think this was a very bad move. But I still respect what you guys are doing but I have a bad feeling about this. Until now not many media sources knew Michael was alive and now they do. And in my opinion that is waking up sleeping dogs.



I have the same feeling.. unfortunatelly..


I UNFORTUNATELY AGREE, IT WOULD BE TOO WAY DANGEROUS FOR MICHAEL, WE STILL DONT KNOW WHAT HIS PLANS ARE, MAYBE HE WANTS TO BE LEFT ALONE, TO STAY "DEAD", I'M REALLY FRIGHTENED, A RUSSIAN NEWSPAPER PRINTED THE SAME ARTICLE TOO THIS WEEK,IT'S BECOMEING VERY SERIOUS GUYS :? I JUST HOPE WE WONT DAMAGE HIS PLANS AND HIM
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: December 29, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
I think I remember seeing the Ninemsn article on the television news at the time (Channel 9).  I didn't think much of it at the time.  I don't understand how they're all claiming we think Michael IS Dave Dave, implying we don't know there is a REAL Dave Dave. We never said he is POSING as Dave Dave 24/7, we just think it was Michael on LKL (most do anyway).There's a big difference...and none of the stories seem to recognise that.  :x
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: December 29, 2010, 11:24:45 PM
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I think I remember seeing the Ninemsn article on the television news at the time (Channel 9).  I didn't think much of it at the time.  I don't understand how they're all claiming we think Michael IS Dave Dave, implying we don't know there is a REAL Dave Dave. We never said he is POSING as Dave Dave 24/7, we just think it was Michael on LKL (most do anyway).There's a big difference...and none of the stories seem to recognise that.  :x
Another example of media omission by choice. That one missing piece distorts the whole overall picture. :evil:
We got to feel just a drop of what Mike puts up with.
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: December 30, 2010, 12:04:08 AM
Yes, my thoughts exactly.  :mrgreen:
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Re: And there goes the snowball!

  • on: December 30, 2010, 01:54:50 AM
:o I must be psychic. I was just flipping through the news channels and saw the tail end of what looked like a story about the CONDRAD MURRAY documentary. Again, it was on channel 9 but I can't seem to find the story on the website  :x I might keep an ear out when my grandma watches the 6pm news in 5 minutes, but I think that's only Sydney news and not national, I don't know...hopefully someone else picked up on the whole story  :shock:
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