Los malos de la peli

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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 07:09:37 PM
Al loro con esto...
El contrato está regulado una serie de 50 conciertos en Londres, así como los proyectos no especificados de cine entre el promotor sede en Los Ángeles y Jackson.
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 07:28:22 PM
Ya, sin embargo el contrato que hemos visto habla de una gira mundial.
Como siempre todo se contradice.
Y lo de las pelis hace pensar si TII sería parte, o el hoax o qué...  :roll:
Tú qué piensas Mina?
Te sugiere algo esto?
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 07:38:52 PM
después de ver el face del francés puede ser que esto sea para empezar su carrera en el cine,que era lo que realmente él quería hacer, esto dicho por él, subir a un nivel superior,no una simple película...
Pero creo que esto fué después de This is it ...
Sinceramente con todo lo que ha pasado después le da para una serie más larga que dinastía  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 07:53:11 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Desde luego una de las cosas que yo pensaba al principio... en esos momentos que aún recordamos, cuando teníamos estos sentimientos de que algo no cuadraba por nosotras mismas, sin estar en foros ni nada... era que esa declaración en la entrevista de Geraldo era de los más reveladora.

Incluso todavía podría ser que aquella reunión en verano de 2008 con Colony fuera la semilla de todo el hoax y que el plan les incluya. Eso sería una situación parecida a la primera reunión que tuvieron cuando hicieron LOST (que también revolucionó la narrativa audiovisual), en la que salieron con todas las líneas generales de la serie, y hasta con el final planeado. Hasta Michael podría haber visto el making del piloto de LOST en el que se cuenta esto, y querer hacer algo parecido (planear las bases hasta el final), tiene muchos paralelismos.

Pero por otro lado, me cuesta tanto pensar que estos personajes puedan ser los benefactores hermanitos de la caridad!
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 08:08:01 PM
:shock:
POSIBLES GIRA MUNDIAL Y PELÍCULA

En la BBC News:

El director de ‘AEG Live’, Randy Phillips ha explicado a la ‘BBC’, que el contrato firmado con Jackson contempla la posibilidad de una gira mundial; la edición de una película en 3D basada en “Thriller”, que tendría al propio Jackson como protagonista; y la grabación de nuevos singles. Phillips ha asegurado que estos proyectos forman parte de un plan de tres años y medio que reportaría al cantante más de 400 millones de dólares (316,5 millones de euros
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7925388.stm
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 08:14:02 PM
Otra cosita que me tiene mosca son sus palabra en el 02 arena...
This is It,this is really it, this is the final courtain call ok???
recodáis que así era como se iba a llamar el último tour con sus hermanos que luego pasó a ser victory?
Y si esto es aquella gira pendiente...los Jackson 5...
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 08:24:33 PM
uf, yo eso no lo veo.
Ese dato lo vería más como que aquel momento fue un punto de inflexión y este otro.
Lo de Thriller 3D, que efectivamente rondaba por ahí, se me ocurre ahora que puede ser el hoax en sí mismo... un Thriller 3D  ;)  Cause this is Thriller Thri Di  :lol:
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 08:42:44 PM
Descartado que Tohme fuera en el helicóptero si era el de la azotea...

[youtube:g33np5hx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jModUKEKww&feature=related[/youtube:g33np5hx]
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 09:04:16 PM
Algo muy interesante del MJHD.net:

Tohme, his wife Wendy and expensive house

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In an obituary for someone named James Hiller, whose daughter is Wendy Tohme:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thetim ... =141426589

Surviving are a son, Wayne Hiller and wife, Nancy, Scranton; a daughter, Wendy Tohme and husband, Dr. Tohme Tohme, Los Angeles; a brother, Robert Hiller, Scranton; four grandchildren, Joanna Hiller, Scranton; Andrea Hiller, Scranton; Ramez Tohme, Los Angeles; and Tarek Tohme, Los Angeles; nieces, nephews and cousins.

So, if that Dr. Tohme Tohme is THE Dr. Tohme Tohme, then his wife is named Wendy...

Then I did a search for Tohme and Wendy Tohme and found a real estate listing for a multimillion dollar house they purchased...on July 14, 2009. $5,800,000 to be exact--just 19 days after MJ's death. I find that interesting...if that is indeed THE Tohme Tohme.
http://losangeles.blockshopper.com/prop ... nyon_road/

Más del hilo:

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Btw: Anybody saw his court papers??? I remember some journalist dug out some court papers (he got sued because he cheated money out of his college and apparently he was found guilty and had to pay it back, this happened to him more times), I suppose his real name would be listed on those papers, right?

Edit: I suppose his real name IS Tohme R. Tohme. I found this:

"Dr Tohme Ramez Tohme (d.o.b. 1949) married Janet Phillips (d.o.b. 1953) on 29th January 1972 in Sacremento, California. The pair subsequently divorced in May 1976 in Sacremento, California."

I suppose he would have to use his real name on a marriage certificate right?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... s%3Disch:1
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 09:19:51 PM
Y esto respecto a Halima

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That's what I heard too, CassieForMaxwell: Halima Rashid (Jermaine's wife) is Tohme's cousin.

Here: http://www.mjfanclub.net/mjforum373/sho ... 7&page=291
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 09:34:58 PM
Recuerdo que alguien en el genereal se preguntaba quién pedía esa cifra al estate...

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Dr. Tohme Tohme Wants Money Money from MJ
Originally posted Nov 13th 2009 10:39 AM PST by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's former manager just filed a huge creditor's claim against the estate ... and it's mostly over the sale of Neverland Ranch in 2008.



In the documents, filed yesterday in L.A. County Superior Court, Dr. Tohme says he was promised a certain fee from Michael if he could locate a company to save Neverland Ranch from foreclosure last year.

Dr. Tohme claims he's the one who brought Colony Capital LLC to the table -- the company T says forked over $23 million to save Neverland. Dr. Tohme wants his cut of the deal -- which he claims is approximately $2.3 million.

In July of 2008, Dr. Tohme also says Michael promised him 15% of the singer's "gross compensation within the entertainment industry" -- but T has no clue how much he's owed for this one.

The doc wants in excess of $2.3 million.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/13/dr-tohme- ... z0mpuduIwh
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 09:54:14 PM
Acabo de encontrar esta respuesta en un blog...
no me creo que le pegara vamos faltaría más pero me ha llamado la atención lo del robo de dinero en una maleta...
Latoya dijo que faltaa dinero...
y esa cantidad no es el dinero que según el guardián le dió Thome a la familia en secreto? :shock:

..Dr.Thome Thome a veces pegaba a Michael Jackson cuando el cantante no queria firmar contratos para salvar a Neverland. :cara_pelea:.
Los guardaespaldas de Michael Jackson una vez vieron al cantante llorando en un bano despues de recibir una paliza de mano de Thome Tohme. :cara_lloro:.
Ahora el tal Thome Thome reclama que el fallecido Michael Jackson le debe $2.3 miliones de dolares porque gracias a sus servicios Neverland no fue vendido. :cara_que_importa:.
Thome Thome robo una maleta con $5 miliones de dolares en la casa donde encontraron muerto a Michael Jackson. :cara_omg:.
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 09:56:06 PM
Y si no fué Murray el que estaba con Michael en ese momento?
Y el que estaba era esta sabandija...
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 10:03:57 PM
Quiero citar aquí también a la compañía que preparaba los tributos de Jermaine y que por lo que veo, quiebra un mes después de anunciarlos:

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DECEMBER 18 | Plans for The Tribute concert were scrapped after the event’s organizers closed down, the company’s liquidators said on Friday. The concert was originally to have taken place in a 17th-century palace in Vienna and feature such singers as Mary J. Blige, Chris Brown and Natalie Cole. But in September, Jermaine Jackson, one of Michael Jackson’s brothers who was among the organizers, canceled it, saying he could not to get enough stars to perform on such short notice. The concert was then rescheduled to be in London this summer. Martin Schneider, liquidator for the organizers, told Reuters, “The company cannot sign any new contracts and will not plan any new events.’’ The event organizer - World Award Media GmbH - closed on Nov. 30, the company’s liquidator said.

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Events promoter World Awards Media GmbH confirmed Monday Aug. 10, 2009 that members of Michael Jackson's family and a "high-profile lineup of international stars" are planning a tribute concert to be held in the Austrian capital.
Associated Press
Events promoter World Awards Media GmbH confirmed Monday Aug. 10, 2009 that members of Michael Jackson's family and a "high-profile lineup of international stars" are planning a tribute concert to be held in the Austrian capital.
Associated Press

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World Awards Media GmbH Announces Bankruptcy
http://www.dealipedia.com/deal_view_ban ... hp?r=16069
http://www.worldawardsmedia.com/
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 10:07:32 PM
Ala!  :shock:
Si es verdad, recuerdo haber oido lo de que le pegaba.
Y lo del dinero concuerda.
Y hoy he visto noticias del primer momento, que no he traido porque pensaba que era parte del tema de la prensa que no se entera... en el que informaban de que el dr. Tohme era el médico personal y que había atendido a Michael en el fatídico momento...
Ahora no se que pensar.
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 10:14:06 PM
Y otra cosita...
"Conectar los puntos"

Timothy Leiweke
Funcionario Ejecutivo Principal y Presidente de AEG Ehrlich Ventures, LLC, que todos sabemos es una subsidiaria de Anschutz Entertainment Group, Inc. (AEG) la gran empresa que fue la producción de conciertos de Michael. Que también posee el Staples Center, donde se tengan prácticas de MJ, y también posee el Centro de O2, donde los conciertos se iban a celebrar, así como ejecutivo de marketing de eventos Bounce. ¿Qué AEG "adquirido" Bounce marketing de eventos en 2002. ¿Cómo Sony empate en lo preguntas? Sony es un cliente de Bounce marketing de eventos.
Por lo tanto, no importa cuántos boletos se venden, ni cuánto hace que Sony, AEG siempre hace más!
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 10:18:42 PM
Puede ser que las cintas de video de casa de Michael tengan la imagen de Thome con las manos en la masa,recordemos que además es médico... ???  y el que se encuentra el pastel es Murray? que no sabe que ha podido pasar...no hay guardaespaldas en ese momento en la casa....pudo ser que Thome no fuera visto...
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 10:26:57 PM
Sería la única explicación, porque nadie dece que estuviera allí...

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Michael Jackson, Dr. Tohme Tohme, Frank DiLeo, Colony Capital & Anschutz

What LaToya Jackson said (People magazine): "The grieving sister of superstar Michael Jackson last night blamed ‘a shadowy entourage’ of manipulative hangers-on for effectively 'murdering' the King of Pop. ,.. She believes her brother was fed addictive drugs by handlers who wanted to control his moods. She says they regarded him as a ‘cash cow’ and exploited him at every turn. It was this, she believes, that led directly to his death. ... After returning from the hospital with the children and her mother to Katherine’s home, they received a troubling call from the Jackson mansion. It was Michael’s long-term assistant Michael Amin, a devout Muslim known as Brother Michael. He told La Toya that her brother’s Lebanese-born, self-appointed business manager Dr Tohme Tohme had fired all the staff at the Beverly Hills property and at a second rented home in Las Vegas. ‘I want to know how Michael died, and then, at 11pm on the day he dies, all the staff are fired?’ she asks rhetorically. ‘That raised my suspicions.’ ... While Michael regularly kept up to £1million in cash inside his home, La Toya says none was found. Nor was any of his vast collection of jewellery ...

Linka aquí que no dice eo, pero es interesante también...

[youtube:57uy9gs9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e8LPrYiT38[/youtube:57uy9gs9]

[youtube:57uy9gs9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJjJ1f3pBec&feature=related[/youtube:57uy9gs9]

En esta página hay mucho más... lo miraré más tranquilamente.

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" ... the man who allegedly tried and failed to resuscitate Michael Jackson following his heart attack - Dr Tohme Tohme has been described as Jackson's personal physician, close friend, manager and official spokesman. Today he stood silently by the side of Jermaine Jackson as he announced to the world that his brother had died. According to Jermaine, Dr Tohme was with Jackson when he collapsed at his rented home in Los Angeles yesterday and then tried to resuscitate the pop star. Asked for his reaction at the press conference, Dr Tohme simply replied that Jermaine would be the only representative for the family. According to close associates, Jackson and Dr Tohme had fallen out since coming to London in March to announce his comeback tour. Sources say they were no longer on speaking terms. Jackson is said to have formally notified associates last month that Dr Tohme, who paved the way for the deal for the This Is It tour, was not representing him after he received a cease-and-desist letter for the O2 residency from AllGood Entertainment, the company that had represented the Jackson 5. ... The row had led to Jackson re-connecting with Frank DiLeo, who managed the singer in his Eighties heyday. ... "
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... article.do
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 10:45:25 PM
Aquí dejo algo sobre la industria discografica espero que nos ayude a entender, es un poco largo...miraré detenidamente.
  http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/ja ... icindustry
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 09, 2010, 10:50:43 PM
Es lo malo de estas horas  :lol:
Pero se encuentran cosas interesantes y hay más inspiración parece ser...
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 10, 2010, 07:32:35 AM
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Sobre el segundo, parece que Harvey le da una lección a la CNN, este tipo de cosas parece apoyar la posibilidad de que TMZ esté evidenciando la forma de trabajar de la prensa.



Podríamos decir que se forjaron un supuesto no apoyo a Michael como parte del hoax, pero eso significaría un hoax largamente planeado y eso cada día me cuadra menos. Si TMZ está apoyando a Michael tuvo que ser algo repentino a partir de un punto. Una buena oferta de ser la fuente privilegiada y el medio para ridiculizar a otros medios podría explicarlo.


EXACTO, tengo la misma impresión.
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 10, 2010, 04:27:44 PM
Minamai, por favor, tienes link de lo de que Tohme golpeaba a Michael y lo de los guardaspaldas que lo habían visto llorar? O al menos saber de dónde viene...
Lo he comentado en el hilo inglés y creo que no tenía que haberlo hecho sin tenerlo...
Si recuerdas algo puedes ponerlo aquí o en el hilo inglés?
Gracias Mina!
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 10, 2010, 08:24:17 PM
Perdoname Some estaba perdida leyendo....lo encontré, es  la respuesta que da alguien en un blog ahí te dejo el link
http://foro.univision.com/t5/Michael-Ja ... /370997659
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 10, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
[youtube:txmy51jo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvu301ATe_0&feature=related[/youtube:txmy51jo]
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Re: Los malos de la peli

  • on: May 10, 2010, 08:47:20 PM
Muchas gracias Mina.
Pero este de dónde saca eso?
Porque el link que pone a TMZ es la noticia que conocemos y ahí no pone nada de eso no?
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