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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 10, 2010, 02:51:31 PM
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Recent appearances of Michael Jackson have prompted rumours by many fans that Michael Jackson has employed a “look-alike” body double to carry the burden of the up-coming world tour.

The shock news that pop legend Michael Jackson has suffered a fatal cardiac arrest at the age of 50 has sent his fans reeling.  The big question is, was it really Michael Jackson who died?

Many who watched the press announcement for the up-coming world tour were convinced that it was not the real Jacko…….but a body double that faced the eager press.



Many devoted fans watching world tour announcement and other recent appearances commented that his hands, face, stature and general demeanour and mannerisms were unfamiliar (beyond any consequences of physical surgery), leading to rumours of a body double.

For a 50 year old man who has been rumoured to have suffered from Skin Cancer, Skin Disease, a debilitating Spider Bite, requirement for a lung transplant, addiction to Vicodin, nervous exhaustion, cosmetic surgery complications, to name a few,  the prospect of a strenuous world tour would be a virtual impossibility.

Music journalists reported on sky news on the night of the announcement of his death that Michael Jackson was only contracted to perform for a few minutes on stage for each of the tour dates, suggesting that a well trained “look-alike” may stand in, secretly, for the bulk of the performances.

If there are one /numerous Michael Jackson “stand-ins”, are we really sure that the real Michael Jackson has died?…Only his very close friends / family would be able to answer this and if Michael Jackson were alive but wanted to escape the relentless press / legal harassment, it would be an ideal way to “retire” with the support of those close and trusted to him…..(who could blame him!) we may never know!

He will be sadly missed for his undeniable, unique, absolute shining talent which has entertained and will continue to entertain many generations of music and dance lovers.

Here’s wishing that he has now found peace.
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 10, 2010, 05:09:23 PM
You are right, Mo. No raider, no valid contract - at all, definitely.

And MJ is well known for using doubles a lot, not only as decoys, but also as doppelgangers during concerts / shows.

What`s up with this nnow? Damage control for minimized own erformance ... why not?  

I can`t see any problem here ...
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 13, 2010, 10:03:45 AM
just thinking looking at the man in the mirrow vid, and was thinking about the beatles tracks - he never let sentimentality, or friendship come in the way of a sound business deal

he fired or had pp fired from his employment
look at his personal staff (Kai, Grace etc)  and the neverland staff, KF, and his business associates over the years

look at the way he dealt with personal matters also - very proactive - problem solver.

look how he announced his departure from his brothers on tour, when he failed to renew his management with his father

when he did not want to do a contractual agreement - his lawyers would find an loop hole and defend him.

look at the way he dealt with his doctors there was a gap in treatment with arnie around 2005, then he is back on board.

countless pp have said that mike would cut pp off, he would change his number and that would be it.

so he was ruthless or relentless

this works well with the hoax or does it?
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

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16.9 counterpart/Fax Signatures.  This Agreement may  be executed in ahy number of  Counterparts each of which Shall be deemed an originaI, and facsimile copies or photocopies of signatures shall be as valid as originals  (pg 13.)

is this how its  done?  isn't the original signature suppose to be on every copy that is a valid original.. othervise its a copy not an original.  And the signature can just be put on the paper"photoshoped" and then  faxed... and there is an original....!!!  
I dont think MJ signed those papers... someone else did...
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 13, 2010, 11:27:16 AM
Well... whatever Mike wanted him there for... I dont think it was to act as an understudy. You can still tell that its not Michael.

Got to remember the people at the front of the concerts would have recognised him... theres no way he could have fooled them.

His moves arent as strong and powerful as Michaels.

 :?
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 13, 2010, 01:06:07 PM
i think that ernest is a pretty good dancer and impersonator of mike, he could have been part of the tricks and illusions

but the show was no way ready for July start date, the props werent in full operation - esp lightman, and i think that it could well have been put back even further to august or september because of the tech problems then shipping or cargo plane.

what mike was preparing was not like - stand up infront of a mic - concerts but more of any experience a show, a lot of magic, cinema effects, props and that would i think include standins.

i think if you view it like that - you feel differently about the shows

i initially felt that he would be short changing pp, i dont feel like that now. i feel it was going to be an experience.
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 14, 2010, 01:11:53 AM
the arabian nights » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:03 am

"...look how he announced his departure from his brothers on tour, when he failed to renew his management with his father..."

OMG i was watching some jacksons concert footage and i was so not expecting that announcement!! (their concerts seem like so one of a kind cause they just give and electric performance but oops back to the subject  :lol: ) i was feeling like oh no!! michael left the jacksons!! (this was a few months ago lol)  

now i'm waiting to see if heal return to the jacksons  :)
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 16, 2010, 05:54:57 PM
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Deep pockets behind Michael Jackson
May 30, 2009 |  9:56 am
This is a longer version of a story that will appear in The Times' Sunday (May 31) edition.





Others have tried to revive the onetime pop star's performing career. Tom Barrack is convinced he's the 'caretaker' to do it.

Tom Barrack, a Westside financier who made billions buying and selling distressed properties, flew to Las Vegas in March 2008 to check out a troubled asset. But his target was not a struggling hotel chair or failed bank.

It was Michael Jackson. The world's bestselling male pop artist was hunkered down with his three children in a dumpy housing compound in an older section of town. At 49, he was awash in nearly $400 million of debt and so frail that he greeted visitors in a wheelchair. The rich international friends who offered Jackson refuge after his 2005 acquittal on molestation charges had fallen away. His Santa Barbara ranch, Neverland, was about to be sold at public auction.

In Jackson, Barrack saw the sort of undervalued asset his private equity firm, Colony Capital, had succeeded with in the past. He wrote a check to save the ranch and placed a call to a friend, the conservative business magnate Philip Anschutz, whose holdings include the concert production firm AEG Live.

Fifteen months later, Jackson is living in a Bel-Air mansion and rehearsing for a series of 50 sold-out shows in London's O2 Arena. The intervention of two billionaires with more experience in the board room than the recording studio seems on course to accomplish what a parade of others over the last dozen years could not: getting Jackson back on stage.

His backers envision the shows at AEG's O2 as an audition for a career rebirth that could ultimately encompass a three-year world tour, a new album, movies, a Graceland-like museum, musical revues in Las Vegas and Macau, and even a "Thriller" casino. Such a rebound could wipe out Jackson's massive debt.

"You are talking about a guy who could make $500 million a year if he puts his mind to it," Barrack said recently. "There are very few individual artists who are multibillion-dollar businesses. And he is one."

Others have tried to resurrect Jackson's career, but previous attempts have failed, associates say, because of managerial chaos, backbiting within his inner circle and the singer's legendary flakiness.

Even as Jackson's deep-pocketed benefactors assemble an all-star team -- "High School Musical's" Kenny Ortega is directing the London concerts -- there are hints of discord. Last week, two different men identified themselves as the singer's manager and a month before, a respected accountant who had been handling Jackson's books was abruptly fired in a phone call from an assistant.

But his backers downplay the problems. "He is very focused. He is not going to let anybody down. Not himself. Not his fans. Not his family," said Frank DiLeo, his current manager and a friend of three decades.

Jackson needs a comeback to reverse the damage done by years of excessive spending and little work. He has not toured since 1997 or released a new album since 2001, but has continued to live like a megastar.

THE MICHAEL JACKSON 'PARADOX'

To finance his opulent lifestyle, he borrowed heavily against his three main assets -- his ranch, his music catalog and a second catalog that includes the music of the Beatles that he co-owns with Sony Corp. By the time of his 2005 criminal trial, he was nearly $300 million in debt and, according to testimony, spending $30 million more annually than he was taking in.

Compounding his money difficulties are a revolving door of litigious advisors and hangers on. Jackson has run through 11 managers since 1990, according to DiLeo.

At least 19 people -- financial advisors, managers, lawyers, a pornography producer and even a Bahraini sheik -- have taken Jackson to court for allegedly failing to pay bills or backing out of deals. He settled many of the suits. Currently, he is facing civil claims by a former publicist, a concert promoter and the writer-director of his "Thriller" video, John Landis.

John Branca, an entertainment lawyer who represented Jackson for more than 20 years, blamed the singer's financial straits partly on his past habit of surrounding himself with "yes men." Branca advised Jackson to buy half of the Beatles catalog in 1985 for $47.5 million. The catalog is now estimated to be worth billions and the purchase is considered his smartest business decision.

"The paradox is that Michael is one of the brightest and most talented people I've ever known. At the same time, he has made some of the worst choices in advisors in the history of music," said Branca, who represents Santana, Nickelback and Aerosmith, among others. He said he finally split with the singer because Jackson invited into his inner circle "people who really didn't have his best interests at heart."

 

The singer's financial predicament reached a crisis point in March 2008 when he defaulted on a $24.5-million loan and Neverland went into foreclosure. Jackson's brother Jermaine enlisted the help of Dr. Tohme Tohme, an orthopedic surgeon-turned-businessman who had previously worked with Colony Capital.

Tohme reached out to Barrack, who said he was initially reluctant to get involved because Jackson had already sought advice from fellow billionaire Ron Burkle, an old friend.

"I said, 'My God, if Ron can't figure it out, I can't figure it out,' " Barrack said.

But he was drawn to the deal. He owns a ranch five miles from Neverland, and his sons were among local children Jackson invited over for field days at the ranch. The financier retains close ties to the developer who built Neverland and is friendly with Wesley Edens, the chairman of the property's debt-holder, Fortress Investment Group.

With the auction of Jackson's home and possessions just days away, Barrack made the singer a proposition.

"I sat down with him and said, 'Look . . . we can buy the note and restructure your financial empire,' " Barrack said. But, he told him, "what you need is a new caretaker. A new podium. A new engine."

Tohme, who acted as Jackson's manager until recently, recalled the urgency of the situation. "If he didn't move fast, he would have lost the ranch," Tohme said. "That would have been humiliating for Michael."

Jackson and Barrack reached an agreement within seven days. Colony paid $22.5 million and Neverland averted foreclosure.

FROM NEVERLAND TO LONDON

Jackson has not spoken publicly since a March news conference and his representatives declined to make him available for an interview.

Barrack said his position outside the music industry seemed to endear him to Jackson. "He looks at me like 'the suit.' I have credibility because I don't live in that world. I'm not interested in hanging around him. I'm not interested in girls. I'm not interested in boys. I'm not interested in drugs," Barrack said.

After buying Neverland, Barrack called his friend Anschutz. Barrack said the prospect of helping Jackson, given his recent criminal case, gave Anschutz, a devout Christian, pause. (Anschutz declined to be interviewed.)

Barrack had spent significant time with Jackson and praised him as "a genius" and devoted father. Ultimately, Anschutz agreed to put Jackson in touch with Randy Phillips, the CEO of his concert subsidiary.

As the head of AEG Live, Phillips oversees a division that grossed more than $1 billion last year and has negotiated such lucrative bookings as Celine Dion's four-year, $400-million run in Las Vegas and Prince's 21 sold-out dates at the O2 Arena in 2007.

Phillips had his eye on Jackson for some time. In 2007, Phillips approached the singer with a deal for a comeback, but Jackson, who was working with different advisors, turned him down. "He wasn't ready," Phillips recalled.

This time, however, Jackson was receptive. He needed the money, and he has a second, more personal reason: His children -- sons Prince Michael, 7, and Michael Joseph Jackson Jr., 12, and daughter Paris Michael Katherine, 11 -- have never seen him perform live.

"They are old enough to appreciate and understand what I do and I am still young enough to do it," Phillips quoted Jackson as saying.

Jackson stands to earn $50 million for the O2 shows, "This Is It" -- $1 million per performance not including revenue from merchandise sales and broadcast rights. Jackson is considering options including pay-per-view and a feature film. But the real money would kick in after his final curtain call in London.

A PROPOSED TOUR

AEG has proposed a three-year tour starting in Europe, then traveling to Asia and finally returning to the United States. Although Jackson has only committed to the O2 engagement thus far, Phillips estimates ticket sales for the global concerts would exceed $450 million.

"One would hope he would end up netting around 50% of that," Phillips said.

Barrack, the man who set Jackson's comeback in motion, has seen his net worth drop with the financial crisis of the last year. Forbes estimated his wealth at $2.3 billion around the time he met Jackson, but he is now merely a multimillionaire. He said that the economic downturn makes Jackson even more attractive as an investment because his value has been overlooked: In times like this, he said, "finding little pieces of information that others don't have" is more important than ever.

His company isn't exposed to any risk by working with Jackson. All the money Colony has put up is backed by the value of Neverland and related assets, he said. If Jackson regains firm financial footing, Barrack's company could be a partner in future deals. "When he looks back and says, 'Who took the risk? Who was there?' I mean, he gets it. So that's my hope," Barrack said.

It all depends on what happens July 13 when the lights go down in the O2 Arena. Doubts about Jackson's reliability are widespread because of his long concert hiatus. Those concerns were heightened earlier this month when the show's opening night was pushed back five days. Phillips and Ortega, the director, blamed production problems and said Jackson was ready to perform.

Fans demonstrated their faith in Jackson months ago when they snapped up 750,000 tickets for shows through March 2010 in less than four hours. "We could have done 200 shows if he were willing to live in London for two years," Phillips said.

Amid the high stakes, Phillips has taken a hands-on approach more reminiscent of his early days as a talent manager for acts including Guns N' Roses and Lionel Richie than as the company's chief executive.

A REPUTATION, A DO-OR-DIE MOMENT

In addition to the more than $20 million AEG is paying to produce the shows, the company is putting its reputation on the line for a performer with a track record of missed performances and canceled dates. In a video news conference earlier this month, Phillips acknowledged that the company has only been able to insure 23 of the 50 "This Is It" performances."In this business, if you don't take risks, you don't achieve greatness," Phillips said.

Phillips said he speaks with Jackson regularly and has closely monitored rehearsals in a Burbank soundstage. In response to questions about his physical condition, especially in light of his previous addiction to prescription painkillers, Phillips said that Jackson passed a rigorous medical examination. Associates also say he adheres to a strict vegetarian diet and works out with a personal trainer.

But the problems that have bedeviled Jackson in the past -- infighting, disorganization and questionable advisors -- persist.

In an interview last week, Tohme identified himself as the singer's "manager, spokesman, everything" and spoke about the benefits of dealing with business titans Barrack and Anschutz rather than their "sleazy" predecessors. "Michael Jackson is an institution. He needs to be run like an institution," Tohme said.

The next day, however, longtime Jackson associate DiLeo claimed he was Jackson's manager and said Tohme had been fired a month and a half earlier. Tohme denied being fired but declined further comment.

In April, Jackson fired the accounting firm, Cannon & Co., that had worked for him for a year, according to an accountant who worked on his finances. Jeff Cannon of Cannon & Co. said he received a phone call from an assistant of Jackson who said the singer no longer required his services.

Then there is Arfaq Hussain. A British man who met Jackson in the late 1990s, Hussain designed clothing for the performer -- including an air-conditioned jacket, a pair of self-adjusting, rhodium-plated shoes and the "Crystal Miracle," a jacket covered with 275,000 rock crystals -- and tried to launch a business selling $75,000 bottles of perfume by trading on Jackson's name.

In 2002, Hussain was jailed for four months in Britain for charges related to business fraud. Hussain and Jackson recently became reacquainted and the singer hired him as an assistant, DiLeo said.

The woman who was Jackson's public face during his criminal trial, former manager and spokeswoman Raymone Bain, is pressing a federal breach of contract suit against the singer. Bain claims that Jackson cheated her out of her 10% cut of several business deals, including the AEG concerts. Bain is to ask a judge in Washington, D.C., next month to seize the portion she alleges is hers, citing Jackson's history of evading creditors.

In his corner office high above Century City, Barrack is sanguine about reports of disharmony.

"You have the same thousand parasites that start to float back in and take advantage of the situation and that has happened a little at the edges," he said. But, he added, he had confidence in AEG's ability to keep Jackson focused.

The concerts, Phillips acknowledged, are a do-or-die moment for Jackson.

"If it doesn't happen, it would be a major problem for him career-wise in a way that it hasn't been in the past," he said.

--Chris Lee and Harriet Ryan

Related: Michael Jackson delays the start of his London comeback residency

Related: Michael Jackson rehearses near Burbank airport

COMEBACK: Michael Jackson’s backers hope his 50 sold-out London concerts will lead to a world tour, an album, movies, a Graceland-like museum and even a casino. Credit: Associated Press

NEVERLAND: Michael Jackson’s Santa Ynez Valley ranch was just days away from being sold at auction last year until it was rescued by Tom Barrack’s private equity firm. Stephen Osman / Los Angeles Times

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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 16, 2010, 05:56:44 PM
remember frank saying on vid that mike knew he had to do 20 shows in japan (i think) and also that he had talked to mj after his death?

it was never just the 50 shows it was a massive tour

that contract has not been released?
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 16, 2010, 06:16:59 PM
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This guy meet mike 5 days before mike's death

the concerts were to happen - mike was recruiting Ernest to be in the CONCERT

he said "I was supposed to be on the This is it tour"


[youtube:3ccncjnm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9rKgcDkc_k[/youtube:3ccncjnm]

interesting

but as what?? As a decoy, So Michael can go shopping or something?
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 16, 2010, 06:19:35 PM
he could have been in lightman?
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

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AEG has proposed a three-year tour starting in Europe, then traveling to Asia and finally returning to the United States. Although Jackson has only committed to the O2 engagement thus far, Phillips estimates ticket sales for the global concerts would exceed $450 million.

just thinking if mike wanted out of the concerts - why did he not bail?

lets think, aeg downed money to mike but it was not a significant sum to him, and also they downed 30mil in production costs, so if he formally withdrew - no insurance ? but also he would be sued for the lost profits £450mill - this would have lead to bankruptcy unless his lawyers could find a loop hole?

he would have lost neverland - for all the problems there - it was his first home
he would have lost the music cat

loss of reputation - was he worried  - maybe not so much - he could offered his fans something else.

they were not insured for the full 50 .... hmmm and they are now very silent on the numbers only referring to the 50, but that was clearly not the case...... the question is why back track now - randy phillips was disliked by mike - this seems like the reason... where is the contract for the 50 shows, and the world tour ... why has it been released the contract or a signed letter  which i dont think is a contract - looks just like a letter of intention not a contract as such (i dont know about contract law is that obvious :lol: )

lets look at franks interview
[youtube:1el1hb06]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cNeJjA6LlM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1el1hb06]

remember it was post death this interview, and frank said that he spoke to mike the night before - the interviewer completely missed that, also he said that mike knew he had to do other venues so the world tour - he mentioned on memory japan (not rewatched sorry)
and that mike still wants to do the tours

this was all missed by the interviewer - so many missed opportunities
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Re: the concerts were to happen !

  • on: April 17, 2010, 03:35:15 AM
but the money he would have made would not have wiped out his debt...

so why do the tour?

an cd would that have wiped it away?

maybe a package of things

but i think mikes idea of a thriller movie and a lego game (here i go again) would have done more to wipe the debt out - i am sure he would have got backers

he could also re -released another version  even though the 25 ann had passed, i think the planet would have gone to it

so why agree to any tours .. the tours he hated....
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