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Exactly! MJ can avoid all he wants. However, if someone wants to he or she can proceed to do his/her dirty deeds through others. People such as Tommy Motolla cannot simply be ignored or avoided. That is especially true if MJ felt that Tommy was out to ruin his life. This is more than just someone saying mean words toward MJ. I believe Tommy , for example, had a hand in the 2003 charges. Maybe I am alone with this opinion but I fight fire with fire. If Tommy was suspected of setting up the 2003 charges, then MJ should investigate if that were true. If so, then Tommy's dirty laundry would be aired to take him down a notch or two. quote="the arabian nights"]the trick i think and i am trying to work this out for myself is how to spot these pp and avoid them before they do damage
I understand that a list exists. I am just seeking clarification of whether MJ planned to get revenge on certain people or if he merely wanted them kept out of his way. When I think of a "hit list", I think about revenge. Quote from: "the arabian nights"Quote from: "GirlSaturday"Let's clarify something. Had he developed an actual "hit list" or merely an "avoidance list"? There is a difference. If people are on his hit list then they should be worried. Their "disappearances" or mysterious downfall in career should be closely monitored to see if there is a pattern. If they are merely on an avoidance list then who cares. There are lots of people that he probably just avoided and ignored. :lol:not sure i remember and i could be wrong that there was a piece of paper with the list on it
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"Let's clarify something. Had he developed an actual "hit list" or merely an "avoidance list"? There is a difference. If people are on his hit list then they should be worried. Their "disappearances" or mysterious downfall in career should be closely monitored to see if there is a pattern. If they are merely on an avoidance list then who cares. There are lots of people that he probably just avoided and ignored. :lol:not sure i remember and i could be wrong that there was a piece of paper with the list on it
Let's clarify something. Had he developed an actual "hit list" or merely an "avoidance list"? There is a difference. If people are on his hit list then they should be worried. Their "disappearances" or mysterious downfall in career should be closely monitored to see if there is a pattern. If they are merely on an avoidance list then who cares. There are lots of people that he probably just avoided and ignored. :lol:
I always imagined Bashit would be on his list ..He did almost the same as these guys did ..What gives?? Or maybe MJ forgave him after he defended him at the trial ??
Quote from: "whisper"I always imagined Bashit would be on his list ..He did almost the same as these guys did ..What gives?? Or maybe MJ forgave him after he defended him at the trial ??Batshit did not defend Mike.Here's the transcript of Batshit's testimony: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
angel_watcher:Re: MJ had an enemy list? One more thing about this enemy list. It was not a hit list. I think it was prudent of Michael to know just who did not have his best interests at heart. In my opinion, the list was too short, judging from the pseudo friends and enemies have been speaking to the media and what they have said since his death.It looks like there was some confusion on the thread as to who exactly was on the list. Here they are, in no particular order:1. Martin Bashir2. Rabbi Schmuley3. Uri Geller (introduced Michael to Rabbi Schmuley)4. Diane Diamond5. Gloria Allred (remember the "baby dangling"call for investigation by Childrens' Services)6. Tommy Mottola7. Janet Arviso8. Tom Sneddon9. Steven Spielberg Michael was not crazy as the media would lead us to believe. Except for Steven Spielberg, the presence of all these people on a "enemy" list should be abundantly clear. (Could it really have been due to Spielberg's failure to cast Michael as Peter Pan in "Hook"? Michael was lucky not to have been attached to that 1991 bomb.)I would say that this is truly a list of people who did not have the bests interests of Michael Jackson at heart and were enemies to his good name.
Tonight, ET has never-before-seen video of Michael Jackson under oath, a side of the late King of Pop rarely seen -- and his former manager Dieter Weisner breaks his silence about it! "He was on one side a big beautiful artist," Weisner tells ET's Mark Steines, "and he was such a lonely man -- that was the problem." Being questioned in a multi-million-dollar lawsuit for breach of contract by a former business associate, Michael appears at times jittery and nervous, sometimes laughing, claiming at one point that he did not testify in a previous case because he was suffering from a spider bite. At the time of the alleged bite, Weisner was Michael's manager, a job he took in 1996 that he held for some seven years. Now, he breaks his silence about Michael's claim. "He talked about a spider bite, and it was not a spider bite," says Weisner. "He got an injection from one of the doctors, and I think the needle broke. … I don't know what it is, but it was one of these doctors I didn't like." Was the alleged injection and resulting horrible bruise from one of Michael's so-called "Dr. Feelgoods"? Weisner says he believes so, and that the doctor may have suggested calling it a "spider bite." "I once I had a fight with him," says Weisner of Michael. "I told him, 'You know what, I'm not happy with this.'" Weisner says he thinks the 2003 raid on Neverland and the child molestation case left Michael a broken man, and now he believes that's when the drug problem escalated. "When he was in such a pressure and he couldn't handle something, he took the stuff," says Weisner. "When Michael had something he could work on and there was something he could do, he didn't need it." Wednesday night on ET, we have the reported Michael Jackson "Hit List," from Tommy Mottola to Diane Dimond -- and a famous director? Posted September 16, 2009 3:30:00 AMSee All: dieter weisner celebs michael jackson
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuoteangel_watcher:Re: MJ had an enemy list? One more thing about this enemy list. It was not a hit list. I think it was prudent of Michael to know just who did not have his best interests at heart. In my opinion, the list was too short, judging from the pseudo friends and enemies have been speaking to the media and what they have said since his death.It looks like there was some confusion on the thread as to who exactly was on the list. Here they are, in no particular order:1. Martin Bashir2. Rabbi Schmuley3. Uri Geller (introduced Michael to Rabbi Schmuley)4. Diane Diamond5. Gloria Allred (remember the "baby dangling"call for investigation by Childrens' Services)6. Tommy Mottola7. Janet Arviso8. Tom Sneddon9. Steven Spielberg Michael was not crazy as the media would lead us to believe. Except for Steven Spielberg, the presence of all these people on a "enemy" list should be abundantly clear. (Could it really have been due to Spielberg's failure to cast Michael as Peter Pan in "Hook"? Michael was lucky not to have been attached to that 1991 bomb.)I would say that this is truly a list of people who did not have the bests interests of Michael Jackson at heart and were enemies to his good name.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuoteTonight, ET has never-before-seen video of Michael Jackson under oath, a side of the late King of Pop rarely seen -- and his former manager Dieter Weisner breaks his silence about it! "He was on one side a big beautiful artist," Weisner tells ET's Mark Steines, "and he was such a lonely man -- that was the problem." Being questioned in a multi-million-dollar lawsuit for breach of contract by a former business associate, Michael appears at times jittery and nervous, sometimes laughing, claiming at one point that he did not testify in a previous case because he was suffering from a spider bite. At the time of the alleged bite, Weisner was Michael's manager, a job he took in 1996 that he held for some seven years. Now, he breaks his silence about Michael's claim. "He talked about a spider bite, and it was not a spider bite," says Weisner. "He got an injection from one of the doctors, and I think the needle broke. … I don't know what it is, but it was one of these doctors I didn't like." Was the alleged injection and resulting horrible bruise from one of Michael's so-called "Dr. Feelgoods"? Weisner says he believes so, and that the doctor may have suggested calling it a "spider bite." "I once I had a fight with him," says Weisner of Michael. "I told him, 'You know what, I'm not happy with this.'" Weisner says he thinks the 2003 raid on Neverland and the child molestation case left Michael a broken man, and now he believes that's when the drug problem escalated. "When he was in such a pressure and he couldn't handle something, he took the stuff," says Weisner. "When Michael had something he could work on and there was something he could do, he didn't need it." Wednesday night on ET, we have the reported Michael Jackson "Hit List," from Tommy Mottola to Diane Dimond -- and a famous director? Posted September 16, 2009 3:30:00 AMSee All: dieter weisner celebs michael jackson
JERMAINE JACKSON SET TO DISH THE DIRT ON HIS TRAGIC BROTHER--------------------------------------------------------------------------------By Ian Markham-Smith - Posted on 13 August 20090diggsdiggMichael Jackson's older brother appears set to cash in on his tragic death by writing a book about the star's bizarre life.Bitter Jermaine Jackson is said to be ready to go public with the sensational book that will portray his dead brother as a deceitful gay anti-Semite.The Thriller singer became a Jew hater because he believed that movie mogul Steven Spielberg and his film making partners ripped Jackson off over their DreamWorks pictures studio, 54-year-old Jermaine claims.And Jackson married former doctor's assistant Debbie Rowe, who is the mother of two of his children, because he was involved in business deals with members of the Muslin faith.Jermaine also alleged that his brother, who would have turned 51 on August 29, paid Rowe to have his children. He was a drug user, who drank alcohol and kept women at bay, and did indeed deliberately change the colour of his skin to become white.Details of Jermaine's astonishing plan to reveal all about the seedy side of Jackson's secret life have been uncovered by top Hollywood showbusiness comentator Roger Friedman, who has been involved with the Jackson family for many years.Friedman first discovered three years ago the existence of a document that Jermaine has put together with Stacy Brown, a family friend and co-author of an amazing memoir with Michael Jackson’s late, long-time PR man, Bob Jones, detailing what would-be in a proposed book.Jermaine has often denied the existence of such a proposal but he once talked about it with late night TV chat show host Larry King on television.Furthermore, New York literary agent Laurie Liss sent the proposal around to three publishers but no one was interested at the time – possibly because of the explosive content.But, Friedman said: “Maybe they’ll be more interested now that Michael is gone.”What is amazing is that Jermaine was planning to stab his brother in the back even though Jackson was alive at the time.Friedman continued his investigation and he finally obtained a copy of the document that Jermaine had put together in 2003.In it, Jermaine said: “My brother is a superstar, yes. My brother is wealthy. He owns shares in Sony music. He drinks, he does drugs, he lies, he cheats, he changed his skin colour and mostly, he’s human. He attracts gay men and wards off women like the plague.“He married a woman because she was pregnant and he was doing business with Muslims (which I am a Muslim) and Muslims won’t do business with someone who is engaged in having children without being married.“He paid this woman, who nobody would ever look twice at, several million dollars. My brother purchased children. It is like a sanctioned black market. He is very powerful. He picked the sperm donor by using information provided by a sperm bank. Now, who can do that? Michael Jackson, that’s who, my brother.”Jermaine has for many years lived in the Jackson family compound in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles.His document went on: “I have maintained my residence by my mother’s side at the family’s Hayvenhurst estate in Encino, California because I know how much I am needed there. Michael counts on me to be there as does the rest of my family.”Friedman maintains that this verifies the long-held belief that the Jackson 5's parents, Katherine and Joseph, who have filed for divorce in the past, do not live together.“Joseph’s fathering of an illegitimate child, reported and documented in several places, could have contributed to this,” Friedman said.Jermaine went on: “It was my little brother, he conceived the whole idea behind DreamWorks. The logo is still proudly the official logo of Neverland.“Unfortunately, Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen all stole the idea from him. That’s one reason why Michael hates Jewish people so much. But he plays the game with them.“There is a game that all in Hollywood play. But the Jews are the powerful ones and they have done a lot to put my brother in his place - just another nigger.”Referring to American promoter Don King, Jermaine added: “That’s what Don King told Michael at the start of the Victory tour. 'No matter what Michael, you’re just another nigger.'“My brother doesn’t always learn the valuable lessons life teaches.“He is stubborn, hard-headed and, at times, harsh. He is cold, calculating and devious. The blood of his father runs freely through him. We were all afraid that the blood of Joseph Jackson would eventually contaminate all of us.”Nevertheless, Jermaine was protective of his brother who was facing serious child sex abuse allegations around the time that he was touting the book.He said: “But this is still my family and I love every one of them and I won’t sit by and let my brother go to prison. Prison would kill him. I’ve thought about doing the time for him, if he’s convicted. Michael wouldn’t survive in prison for one day. He’d commit suicide.”Jermaine also made some very serious allegations about the Jackson 5's father who also had three daughters with his wife.“Joseph did some disgusting things to LaToya and Rebbie, especially,” Jermaine claimed. “If it weren’t for Mother’s loyalty to him, he’d probably be in prison for what he did to our sisters.”
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