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Thanks for the links, Sarahli, I appreciate the leads. The Vatican rabbit hole is deep with so many branches. We were raised Catholic and the church was a big part of our lives. The priests were always over for family dinners, frequently joined us for family vacations, and I never had an inkling about any of this. I am sickened by what I have learned. But like you, I want to know the truth, no matter where it takes me. Paul Pope II was a real shocker. Pope Benedict has been involved in some nasty business too, but so far, not as bad as his predecessor. This is not a easy topic. I came to learn of these things from researching Michael. I feel that Michael must have known about this Vatican mess, for sure. The last pope is supposed to be named 'Peter from Rome' but I don't know if Peter is supposed to be his given or take name. Thanks again for the links, the Roman story has 21 parts! :ugeek: