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Did he open his eyes? Look at this animation
April 13, 2010, 05:02:07 AM
I don't feel completely comfortable posting this, because it's different to look at a still pic, than looking at an animation.
However, I have to discuss this:
There are at least three ambulance pics - not one. Some know it, others don't.
But these three pics were shot in a row, they all are shot from different angles, so the distances between 'objects' and shadows are different.

In one of the shots, it looks like he opened his eyes! But not on the others. (The one without a logo on it)
It could be, that this is only caused by motion blur and due to the different angles!
But I'd like to know, what you see - pay close attention to his eyes.

At least this is a proof, that it was not the stage pic, that was used to photoshop this.
I am sure, these are real pictures, but they still can be a fake (double, from earlier years, or it IS him on June 25th and he just didn't die).
But they are certainly not photoshopped in the way Brian Oxman said.

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hmmm they seem to be a bit open.. but if its a reaction made volontary or unvolontary... i dont know..
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I talked to a paramedic on the other board, and she said it was common, that dead people have their eyes open,
but it's not possible, that the eyelids move. I thought, maybe it's due to the CPR or something, but she ruled that out.
Of course, it's still possible, that he was alive in the ambulance and then later died at the hospital - Some of the latest stories said so.

So, if it's not real eye movement, it's because of the angle, lighting, motion blur...
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Raven

I agree, as I've mentioned before it appears as if on one picture his eyes are closed and on the other they appear to be slightly opened.

As it seems from your animation: one closed, one slightly opened focussing straight ahead, one slightly opened looking to the left
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What is the moving thing of the left ?
A luggage ?  :shock:
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MJ said : You\'re kickin\' with the wrong leg !
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8AXyD-vdo[/youtube]

His eyes look closed to me besides these photos aren't legit anyway.  These are old photo no way they are recent.  I believe these photos were taken when he was in his 30's from a previous trip to the hospital.  That's my personal opinion.
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i still think that it is a fake because i dont see you can get the angle from that position

also mike is younger by 20 years and his skin is different and his colour is beautiful but darker than it is presently.
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Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i still think that it is a fake because i dont see you can get the angle from that position

also mike is younger by 20 years and his skin is different and his colour is beautiful but darker than it is presently.

Why do you think they couldn't get that angle from their position?
I agree, that he looks younger and I also want to believe this pic is fake...

That's the full picture (or at least the biggest extract we got to see):


And that's a picture taken by 'ladymedic' from MJHD.net through the tinted side window of her ambulance - just as in Michael's case.
Only difference is, that the surrounding was dark and she didn't use a flash. It was shot in a closed dark room, not at day light. But that doesn't matter for the angle question.
Pretty much the same...
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the arabian nights

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i have made my comments in previous threads on the ambulance pic
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Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i still think that it is a fake because i dont see you can get the angle from that position

also mike is younger by 20 years and his skin is different and his colour is beautiful but darker than it is presently.

Why do you think they couldn't get that angle from their position?
I agree, that he looks younger and I also want to believe this pic is fake...

That's the full picture (or at least the biggest extract we got to see):


And that's a picture taken by 'ladymedic' from MJHD.net through the tinted side window of her ambulance - just as in Michael's case.
Only difference is, that the surrounding was dark and she didn't use a flash. It was shot in a closed dark room, not at day light. But that doesn't matter for the angle question.
Pretty much the same...

The medical equipment is also pretty the same !   :mrgreen:
When you see the screen near the driver in some picture and see "gauge" (i don't know the exact term) near right man shoulder, we can only ask how design can be so different.
That "gauge" looks to have 15 to 20 years old... my grand mother got the same style on her balances ! haha
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MJ said : You\'re kickin\' with the wrong leg !
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8AXyD-vdo[/youtube]

Quote from: "spike21"
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i still think that it is a fake because i dont see you can get the angle from that position

also mike is younger by 20 years and his skin is different and his colour is beautiful but darker than it is presently.

Why do you think they couldn't get that angle from their position?
I agree, that he looks younger and I also want to believe this pic is fake...

That's the full picture (or at least the biggest extract we got to see):


And that's a picture taken by 'ladymedic' from MJHD.net through the tinted side window of her ambulance - just as in Michael's case.
Only difference is, that the surrounding was dark and she didn't use a flash. It was shot in a closed dark room, not at day light. But that doesn't matter for the angle question.
Pretty much the same...

The medical equipment is also pretty the same !   :mrgreen:
When you see the screen near the driver in some picture and see "gauge" (i don't know the exact term) near right man shoulder, we can only ask how design can be so different.
That "gauge" looks to have 15 to 20 years old... my grand mother got the same style on her balances ! haha

Hm, to me it also looked old, but I have actually NEVER been in an ambulance in my 34 years (knock on wood...).
'ladymedic' says, the equipment isn't old. I think, she's not located in Los Angeles, btw.
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Got it !
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MJ said : You\'re kickin\' with the wrong leg !
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8AXyD-vdo[/youtube]

Actually, this picture is a little bigger than the one posted above (it's a little wider, you see more of the paramedic on the right):



Well...poo...it's not displaying correctly...cutting off a bit on the right side. Sorry about that.

And this is the inside of ambulance 71...a screen shot of a video I made many months ago...

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Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.  ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

(Translation = Just because I might disagree with you does not mean I\'m attacking you.)

It's exactly the same - not a display problem.
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i'll keep here what i was saying on the other topic ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ).

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