It's Michael JOE, once and for all

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Offline Dancing_Machine

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: April 14, 2010, 11:03:06 AM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
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True! It is Joe and I think that is why jodigomes tweeted the following the day Michael's new contract was announced...

Jodi tweeted "Michael is a bigger star now than ever!"

Then she tweeted "Michael JOE Jackson 1958-2009 WRONG!  FOREVER!

She could have tweeted "Michael Jackson, King of Pop" etc. but she specifically tweeted his middle name JOE to bring attention to it.  She knows we've all already seen the passport that says JOE, the driver's license that says JOE, and the court documents that say JOE.  And she knows we've all seen the death certificate that says Joseph.

Also, TMZ is confirming this for us, too, as seen here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djY3a3P2FYc

 :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

I think I've missed something. Who is Jodi Gomes?
one of the producers of the J5: Family Dynasty TV show.

Oh, I knew I heard that name before. Thanks :)
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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: April 14, 2010, 02:35:23 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
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Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
True! It is Joe and I think that is why jodigomes tweeted the following the day Michael's new contract was announced...

Jodi tweeted "Michael is a bigger star now than ever!"

Then she tweeted "Michael JOE Jackson 1958-2009 WRONG!  FOREVER!

She could have tweeted "Michael Jackson, King of Pop" etc. but she specifically tweeted his middle name JOE to bring attention to it.  She knows we've all already seen the passport that says JOE, the driver's license that says JOE, and the court documents that say JOE.  And she knows we've all seen the death certificate that says Joseph.

Also, TMZ is confirming this for us, too, as seen here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djY3a3P2FYc

 :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
No Prob, Bob ;)

I think I've missed something. Who is Jodi Gomes?
one of the producers of the J5: Family Dynasty TV show.

Oh, I knew I heard that name before. Thanks :)
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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: July 04, 2010, 02:48:11 AM
I am sorry to inform you that it is not settled.

If an individual legally changes any part of their name, First, Middle or Last, they must surrender their original Birth Certificate and apply for a new one that will then have the new name on it.

A person can legally change their name as many times as they want.

When applying for a passport, a Birth Certificate or Citizenship Papers (proof of citizenship) are required to prove that you are legitimately entitled to a passport for that country; a legal citizen.

How do I know this?
I recently applied to have my son's named changed. As part of the paperwork, I had to surrender his original Birth Certificate, fill out papers, and pay a fee. I then received a name Change Certificate, which I must use to obtain a new Birth Certificate, with my son's new name on it.

I realize that this is in Canada but the US is probably the same, we just didn't have to have an advertisement in a newspaper cause the name change was for someone less than 19 years old.

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: July 04, 2010, 01:43:14 PM
California Courts Self-Help Cente
How Do I Change My Name?
The main way to change your name is by filing a Petition for a Change of Name. Click here to find out how to do this.

How do I Ask the Court to Change my Name?
1. Fill out the Petition for Change of Name (Form NC-100), including the Attachment to Petition (Form NC-110) and make 2 copies of each.
2. Fill out the Order to Show Cause for Change of Name (Form NC-120) and make 2 copies.
3. Some courts require you to fill out local forms to ask for a name change, like a Criminal Background Information Form. Ask your local court if there are local forms you have to fill out.
4. Fill out the Civil Case Cover Sheet (Form CSM-010)
5. File all your papers with the copies in the court in the county where you live.
6. Publish the Order to Show Cause in a newspaper of general circulation once per week for 4 weeks in a row—ask your court for a list of newspapers. Not all newspapers are valid, and the fees they charge are different, so call around.
7. Go to your court date and take the proof of publication from the newspaper. You will also need the Decree Changing Name (Form NC-130) for the judge to sign.
8. Once you get your Decree Changing Name, get a certified copy from the court. You will need this to change all your legal documents, including your birth certificate, social security card, and other papers like passport.
http://http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp/

Change Your Name in Your U.S. Passport
IF - Your name has been legally changed due to marriage or court order   
AND - Your passport was issued less than 1 year ago
THEN - You must mail- to the address listed on Form DS-5504 :
Your current, valid U.S. passport
Completed Form DS-5504, Application for a U.S. Passport: Name Change, Data Correction, and Limited Passport Book Replacement
An original or certified copy of your marriage certificate or the government-issued document evidencing your legal name change under federal or state law.
If required, two recent photos (details)

IMPORTANT NOTES:
* There is no fee for this service unless you require Expedited Service .
* We strongly encourage you to mail your passport application and any personal documents using a traceable delivery method.
* In order to protect the contents of your mailing from the elements throughout the delivery process, we strongly encourage you to mail your passport application and any personal documents using a secure means of packaging, such as a Tyvek envelope.

IF - Your passport was issued more than 1 year ago
AND - Your name has been legally changed due to marriage or court order
THEN - You must mail to the address listed on Form DS-82:
Your current, valid U.S. passport
Completed Form DS-82, Application for a U.S. Passport by Mail
An original or certified copy of your marriage certificate or the government-issued document evidencing your legal name change under federal or state law.
Two recent, color photographs

IMPORTANT NOTES:
* Minors may not apply using Form DS-82 and should refer to the instruction below.
* We strongly encourage you to mail your passport application and any personal documents using a traceable delivery method.
* In order to protect the contents of your mailing from the elements throughout the delivery process, we strongly encourage you to mail your passport application and any personal documents using a secure means of packaging, such as a Tyvek envelope.
http://http://travel.state.gov/passport/correcting/ChangeName/ChangeName_851.html
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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: October 21, 2010, 09:38:40 PM
The name is "Michael Joe Jackson" signed before 8/29/70



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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: October 21, 2010, 10:59:28 PM
Would it not have made sense that his mother decided to give him his Father's name for his middle name? Joe is short for Joseph, I just thing he used them interchangably... Twins theroy is interesting though I don't believe it would have been a biological twin, but maybe someone took over as MJ latter and the middle name was different? Does anyone know when it changed from Joe to Joseph or vice versa?
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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: October 22, 2010, 12:18:04 AM
In the movie "Jacksons, The American Dream", when Michael is born, Katherine calls him Michael Joe. :D
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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: February 03, 2011, 05:39:33 PM
It's no wonder we get weirded out by the middle name stuff.  I found this on the fbi, naming him with the Joseph middle name.  But, when they send you to the documents, it's Joe.  ALL on the FBI records, both names.
http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/jackson_michael.htm
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/252b-ir-6808.PDF
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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: April 18, 2012, 03:39:41 AM
Hi, I just found this picture on web, I do not know if it was posted already, if yes, I am sorry.
Just click on picture to show larger view.  :icon_e_smile:
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 03:43:21 AM by emulik »
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MJ will get us home safely! :)

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: April 18, 2012, 06:30:59 AM
@Emulik... I saw that document before I don't remember if on this forum or on Pearl's twitter, I believe the real middle Michael's name is Joe as the most important documents as passport or driver license credit it besides Katherine and Germaine in their books.   :moonwalk_:
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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 08, 2012, 01:57:25 PM
It's no wonder we get weirded out by the middle name stuff.  I found this on the fbi, naming him with the Joseph middle name.  But, when they send you to the documents, it's Joe.  ALL on the FBI records, both names.
<!-- m -->http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/jackson_michael.htm<!-- m -->
<!-- m -->http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/252b-ir-6808.PDF<!-- m -->

Thank you very much for this important info  :smiley_abuv:   !!!!!
IT IS NOT Joe or Joseph......IT IS both  :michael_jackson-1135: .....IT always has been and this is very important for the Hoax  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile !!!!!!!

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 08, 2012, 02:52:31 PM
(Off topic - good to see you Applehead.  Must ask, what's MJ singing in your avatar?)

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 08, 2012, 02:55:54 PM
It's no wonder we get weirded out by the middle name stuff.  I found this on the fbi, naming him with the Joseph middle name.  But, when they send you to the documents, it's Joe.  ALL on the FBI records, both names.
<!-- m -->http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/jackson_michael.htm<!-- m -->
<!-- m -->http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/252b-ir-6808.PDF<!-- m -->

Thank you very much for this important info  :smiley_abuv:   !!!!!
IT IS NOT Joe or Joseph......IT IS both  :michael_jackson-1135: .....IT always has been and this is very important for the Hoax  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile !!!!!!!


Hello applehead!!

In my research on FBI docs about this subject, I found all the documents in the 333 pages that were released contained Michael Joe.  It was only when referring to Michael being dead that the FBI docs said Michael Joseph.  Quite telling!

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 08, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
Hi, I just found this picture on web, I do not know if it was posted already, if yes, I am sorry.
Just click on picture to show larger view.  :icon_e_smile:

emulik I can not see the picture. Joe is used in all the important documents, case 2005 trial says Michael Joe Jackson.

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 08, 2012, 06:47:18 PM
It's no wonder we get weirded out by the middle name stuff.  I found this on the fbi, naming him with the Joseph middle name.  But, when they send you to the documents, it's Joe.  ALL on the FBI records, both names.
<!-- m -->http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/jackson_michael.htm<!-- m -->
<!-- m -->http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/252b-ir-6808.PDF<!-- m -->

Thank you very much for this important info  :smiley_abuv:   !!!!!
IT IS NOT Joe or Joseph......IT IS both  :michael_jackson-1135: .....IT always has been and this is very important for the Hoax  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile !!!!!!!


How come can be important for the hoax both names Joe and Joseph, if Joseph is the real MJ's name then MJ is dead however if it's Joe MJ is alive.
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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 08, 2012, 08:04:08 PM
Hey Applehead, were have you been?????

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 14, 2012, 04:18:37 PM
Hello applehead!!

In my research on FBI docs about this subject, I found all the documents in the 333 pages that were released contained Michael Joe.  It was only when referring to Michael being dead that the FBI docs said Michael Joseph.  Quite telling!

Yes,yes quite telling  :michael_jackson-1135: .......thank you  ;) .

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 14, 2012, 04:24:23 PM
Hey Applehead, were have you been?????

Where  :icon_question: ????
In the WorkLand  lol  :icon_albino: !!!!

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 15, 2012, 02:42:10 AM
Is that you in your avatar?  You look lovely!

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 15, 2012, 05:48:13 AM
Is that you in your avatar?  You look lovely!

Do you mean in this photo   :icon_question:  :icon_e_biggrin: ?



Oh boy...... I wish  ;) ,but it's not me of course,it's Tatiana Yvonne :

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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 16, 2012, 01:52:38 AM
 :icon_lol: Well the pic was tiny, and she looked kinda different there than the pic I was used to seeing, so I was thinking photoshop.



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Re: It's Michael JOE, once and for all

  • on: September 16, 2012, 05:01:14 AM
hey guys!
I did a quick search but i dont find....

What was Mike name on both marriage certificate...with Lisa Marie Presley and with Debbie Rowe...
What was his name what was on oficially papers...on songs recorded in both period?




I`m alive and I`m here forever!

 

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