Does anyone go to Forrest Lawn yesterday ? The 3. ?

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Em, what time you were there? I left at 1.30 and did not see the croud on your picture or may be I was talking to one of the french woman a little away from the entrance. I got pictured with those french women that appeared on your last picture who is puting cards on the ground. I have that picture but cannot  send to my email, damn it. So, there were more fans after I left. I am sorry I could not stay longer.

"That doesn't make me believe MJ has really passed"

Exactly! That's what we are are talking about.   :D
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Em, what time you were there? I left at 1.30 and did not see the croud on your picture or may be I was talking to one of the french woman a little away from the entrance. I got pictured with those french women that appeared on your last picture who is puting cards on the ground. I have that picture but cannot  send to my email, damn it. So, there were more fans after I left. I am sorry I could not stay longer.

"That doesn't make me believe MJ has really passed"

Exactly! That's what we are are talking about.   :D

We got there about 12:30. We stayed at Holly Terrace for a while and then went for a tour of the grounds. We went to see "The Last Supper" stained glass in the Great Mausoleum and then went to see the HUGE 195 X 45 foot painting of "The Crucifixion" at The Hall of the Crucifixion-Resurrection. We also toured the rest of the grounds. We went back to Holly Terrace about 2PM. That's when June Gatlin (funny her name is JUNE) was in progress. All these times are approximate, I didn't have a watch on.
 

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So, I was there at the time you arrived but was too busy talking to the doctor from France. I was at Great Mausoleum 1st time and thought MJ is there and looking for his "box", then listen Last Supper story and left. Then figure out that MJ "is resting in Holly Terrace" and this was my 3nd trip to FL.
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Yes, I was there as I promised.
I have a problem sending photos to my email in order to attach them that's why I did not want to open topic.
However, I will post pictures later.
I was there at 10.30 to 1.30. During the the time I was there I did not see family members or media, or anyone whom we know.
  At the beginning when I got there was quiet. No security outside of the Holly Terrace door. Those families who have their relatives buried there have their key to open the door and enter, or if they forgot the key, they push the bell, security asks who is it, they say whos family they belong and they automatically open  locked door for them.
If you are just a public visitor, you cannot enter.
So, I was sitting in  my car and wating. later VAN arrived to Holly Terrace and woman was carrying flowers and FEDex package. She got in and when she got out, I approached to her and asked to whom she was taking flowers to and who is she. She said flowers were for Michael and she is an employee at forest lawn delivering ordered flowers to  deceased. I asked how often she delivers flowers for Michael, she said very often. Since she was barely speaking and understanding english, I did not ask her much questions. Then another car arrived and woman got out. I approached her and were talking for 2,5 hours. Before I write our conversation, I want to mention that group of french women arrived with shick bouque of a few flowers, toys, and memory cards from french fans. They were friends of the woman I was talking to. Then a few other native fans also arrived with flowers, stand there, cry, talk, get puctures. Security definitely watching outside because in a few min. door was oppened to take flowers in. I asked to let french guests in and of course try to get in myself, but he said NO.  
The french woman I was talking to, was a doctor, late but big fan of Michael, after he "died" she was reading and investigating for herself Michael's "death". She BELIEVS IN HOAX. She was pretty much aware of everything we are disgussing. SHE SAID FRANCE GET INFO ABOUT MICHAEL FROM TMZ AND SHE THINKS TMZ IS WITH JACKSON FAMILY. SHE SAID SHE IS COMING TO FOREST LAWN EVERY DAY FOR MINIMUM AN HOUR AND ONE DAY SHE WAS LUCKY TO GET IN HOLLY TERRACE ALONG WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO ENTERED FOR THEIR RELATIVE. SHE SAW MICHAEL'S GRAVE AND THERE IS NO NAME OR DATE ON IT. THEN, SHE SAID SHE ASKED SECURITY WHO IS SITTING ON THE FRONT DOOR OF THE GREAT MAUSOLEUM , HOW OFTEN MICHAEL'S PARENTS, CHILDREN, FAMILY VISITING CEMETERY SINCE BURIAL, SECURITY TOLD HER NONE, SHE WISHES AT LEAST ONCE TO SEE THEM THERE.
(REMEMBER BROTHERS WENT TO CEMETERY IN JACKSON FAMILY DYNASTY? SO THEY WERE NOT IN THE RIGHT FOREST LAWN FOR SURE).
SHE ASO SAID, AS A DOCTOR, SHE HAS READ AUTOPCY REPORT AND THERE ARE MANY MEDICALLY IMPOSSIBLE THINGS WRITTEN DOWN. SHE SAID, AT THE FOREST LAWN, SHE WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE AND HOW COULD FUNERAL WE SAW ON TV BE POSSIBLY THE SAME PLACE AS SHE SEES. THERE IS NO WAY FUNERAL WAS LIVE TRANSLATION  AT THE FOREST LAWN. BECAUCE ARCHS ON TV APPEARED TO BE STRIGHT ALONG WITH  CASKET AND SITTING PLACES, BUT THE REAL ROAD AT FOREST LAWN HAS WIND AND UPRISE, SO IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE THE FLAT STRAIGHT ROAD ON FUNERAL  WE WERE WATCHING .
THEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT PAINT "MAD HATTER" BY CELINE LAVAIL THAT WAS ORDERED BY MICHAEL, DRAWN THE DATE OF THE "DEATH", AND SIGNED MY MICHAEL. ( I WANT TO MENTION THAT SHE WAS HARDLY SPEAKING ENGLISH, SO I MIGHT MISUNDERSTOOD SOMETHING OR SHE COULD NOT EXPRESS HER SPEECH CORRECTLY).
SHE WILL BE GOING TOMORROW TO THE COURT, SHE IS PLANNING TO VISIT NEVERLAND, SHE WAS AT STAPLES. SHE ASKED IF  AMERICA BELIEVES IN HOAX AND WHY NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT. I EXPLAINED THAT AMERICA CANNOT SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE JACKSON FAMILY ACCEPTED MICHAEL DIED, THEY  ORGANIZED MEMORIAL, SHOWED FUNERAL, SIGNED DEATH CERTIFICATE, AND JARMAINE ANNOUNCED HIS DEATH. SHE SAID -VERY STRANGE. I AGREED, BUT WE CANNOT SPEAK OUT AGAINST WHAT FAMILY ACCEPTS, THAT WOULD BE DISRESPECT AND LED TO LAWSUIT. EVEN THOUGH MAY BE MAJORITY BELIEVE IN HOAX BUT THEY WILL NOT TALK , EXCEPT SOME WEB SITES LIKE THIS ONE AND OVERSEAS. I GAVE HER THIS WEBSITE TO JOIN US, I HAVE HER EMAIL FOR FUTURE COMMUNICATION.
THE FUNNY PART WAS WHEN SHE SAID HER GIRLFIRENDS NOT TALKING TO HER BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN MICHAEL'S DEATH, THEREFORE THEY ARRIVED AT FOREST LAWS SEPARATE. :lol: SHE SAID SHE KNOWS THAT MICHALE'S KIDS OFTEN FLY TO NEW YORK WITH GRACE. SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AN ATTORNEY WHO IS HAPPEN TO BE ELIZABETH TAYLOR SON. SHE BELIEVES THAT MJ GIVES US CLUES BECAUSE HE LOVES AND VALUES US. SHE BELIEVES HE MOST PROBABLY WILL BE BACK BUT NOT THAT SOON.
I PROMISE TO POST PICTURES LATER, NOT MUCH BUT SOMETHING. IF I REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE FROM OUR CONVERSATION, I WILL POST IT. Stay cool! Happy Easter to us and Dearest Michael!

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Thank you for all of ths!!
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Thank you so much scorpionchik and Em for your posts and pictures. Have to admit this made me cry a bit. It's so nice to hear of all the love gathering there for Michael. And to be able to see it with my own eyes is touching. I would love nothing more than to be there one day-and someday I will be. I haven't been so sure of where I stand on this whole hoax thing recently but this definitely gave me a nudge in the right direction. The lack of name on the tomb and no family visitations is good news..I think. He better be alive, or this is just completely devastating. Breaks my heart to think that he may actually be there, alone & forgotten by his own family. So for now, I am going to choose to believe he is out there, living, laughing, breathing  :) . Let's see how tomorrow goes. Keeping the faith..because the power's in believing and it's just a matter of time  ;)
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to...."Em"....question....did you notice all those garbage cans outside...like we saw at the funeral..?????
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Thank u Scarpionchik and Em very- very much, i wish i were there too, thank u for the photos and the info too, the lack of name and death date and no family visitations made my day and confirmed my belief in hoax,thank u again,it was very touching.
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to...."Em"....question....did you notice all those garbage cans outside...like we saw at the funeral..?????

No, the only garbage cans we saw were the regular cemetery trash cans which they neatly try to hide. They sit in a replica of a hollowed out tree stump. They are all over the grounds this way.

Well, today's Monday. It's raining pretty hard here in LA now.
What time is Murray due in court?

Em
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Thank u Scarpionchik and Em very- very much, i wish i were there too, thank u for the photos and the info too, the lack of name and death date and no family visitations made my day and confirmed my belief in hoax,thank u again,it was very touching.

I did not see any family members here, but one of the people in the fan club said they delivered a lot of mail and birthday cards to the Encino house since it was Paris's birthday. He said the family was having a party there for her.

But-I never did hear or see any picture of any family member go to Holly Terrace ever.
Just Murray, but he went to the Great Mausoleum. Wrong place AND it was closed when he was there.
Why did he do that? For the money?? A fan club member said the reason Murray was at the GM was because fans were at Holly Terrace. The fan said Murray was offered a lot of money if he got his pic taken at Holly Terrace!

Em
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 :lol: No way! The chin is too small. and other thing don't match also.
but thank you.
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so the fact that there were NO trash cans there.....like there was at the funeral....WHAT DOES THAT TELL US.....????    ............that the funeral,although it happenend there...was....a.falsehood....????..what do you all think..????
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:lol: No way! The chin is too small. and other thing don't match also.
but thank you.


You're welcome - it was just a thought...

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Hello Em,

you ask when Murray is at the court ? At 1:30 PM.

I wonder why it is not the same court like in February.
In February the hearing was at the Airport Courthouse, District West.
Today it is at the Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center, Central District.
Not the same court, not the same judge...weird for me !

You write it's raining in LA ? I will see the "live" stream at TMZ.....if the streets are wet. I don't know if the times and days are rearly or it's all a movie....the weather is interesting ! Please can you tell us if it is still raining at 1:30 PM ?

Another part of the Conrad Murray documentary ?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1572197/
But why Additional Details, Country : UK ? United Kingdom ?
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Hello Em,

you ask when Murray is at the court ? At 1:30 PM.

I wonder why it is not the same court like in February.
In February the hearing was at the Airport Courthouse, District West.
Today it is at the Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center, Central District.
Not the same court, not the same judge...weird for me !

You write it's raining in LA ? I will see the "live" stream at TMZ.....if the streets are wet. I don't know if the times and days are rearly or it's all a movie....the weather is interesting ! Please can you tell us if it is still raining at 1:30 PM ?

Another part of the Conrad Murray documentary ?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1572197/
But why Additional Details, Country : UK ? United Kingdom ?


Right now it's exactly 1:30. The weather has cleared up. It is now sunny but a little bit windy where I am. The streets are pretty much dry now.
It was raining pretty hard in the early morning hours.
Em
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A TEN MINUTE HEARING!!!!
What's up with that???
I just turned on the TV and the local news said they were going to check in with the hearing, and when they did, it was over. What happened??
Em
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SCORPIONCHIC, thank you sooooo much for your report. You're lucky that you're able to enter/check out the place+people. Thank you for sharing your experience & update.

EM. thanks also for the pics & your thoughts

 ;)  ;)  ;) You guys are wonderful & awesome!!! 8-)  8-)  8-)
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so the fact that there were NO trash cans there.....like there was at the funeral....WHAT DOES THAT TELL US.....????    ............that the funeral,although it happenend there...was....a.falsehood....????..what do you all think..????

I tell you "follow the orange trash cans"  :lol: this trash can stuff always drives me MAD. How can a famous cimetery, burrying the most famous man on Earth have trash can on the same place the casket is standing  :roll:  Everything has been prepared for HOURS, camera, flowers, chairs, security lines to keep media away, and the forget the get the trash out of the way ?

But Michael, please, we are not paparazzi, don't make us search for garbages  :lol: I'm a nice person, I just had a shower and I washed my air ! I don't know, you could have choosen butterflies, umbrellas, garbage is not glamour
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Scorpionchik and Em,
Thank you both for your posts and description of your visits to Forrest Lawn.  I find this all very interesting and fascinating.  Thanks again for reporting about visit to "Ground Zero".  Cheers.  :)
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so the fact that there were NO trash cans there.....like there was at the funeral....WHAT DOES THAT TELL US.....????    ............that the funeral,although it happenend there...was....a.falsehood....????..what do you all think..????


There are NO trash cans along the road we saw on the funeral. That means  Machael gave us hint to understand the funeral and media = trash.   :)
Only single one small white traush can I saw is next to the Holly Terrace entrance.
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Yes, I was there as I promised.
I have a problem sending photos to my email in order to attach them that's why I did not want to open topic.
However, I will post pictures later.
I was there at 10.30 to 1.30. During the the time I was there I did not see family members or media, or anyone whom we know.
  At the beginning when I got there was quiet. No security outside of the Holly Terrace door. Those families who have their relatives buried there have their key to open the door and enter, or if they forgot the key, they push the bell, security asks who is it, they say whos family they belong and they automatically open  locked door for them.
If you are just a public visitor, you cannot enter.
So, I was sitting in  my car and wating. later VAN arrived to Holly Terrace and woman was carrying flowers and FEDex package. She got in and when she got out, I approached to her and asked to whom she was taking flowers to and who is she. She said flowers were for Michael and she is an employee at forest lawn delivering ordered flowers to  deceased. I asked how often she delivers flowers for Michael, she said very often. Since she was barely speaking and understanding english, I did not ask her much questions. Then another car arrived and woman got out. I approached her and were talking for 2,5 hours. Before I write our conversation, I want to mention that group of french women arrived with shick bouque of a few flowers, toys, and memory cards from french fans. They were friends of the woman I was talking to. Then a few other native fans also arrived with flowers, stand there, cry, talk, get puctures. Security definitely watching outside because in a few min. door was oppened to take flowers in. I asked to let french guests in and of course try to get in myself, but he said NO.  
The french woman I was talking to, was a doctor, late but big fan of Michael, after he "died" she was reading and investigating for herself Michael's "death". She BELIEVS IN HOAX. She was pretty much aware of everything we are disgussing. SHE SAID FRANCE GET INFO ABOUT MICHAEL FROM TMZ AND SHE THINKS TMZ IS WITH JACKSON FAMILY. SHE SAID SHE IS COMING TO FOREST LAWN EVERY DAY FOR MINIMUM AN HOUR AND ONE DAY SHE WAS LUCKY TO GET IN HOLLY TERRACE ALONG WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO ENTERED FOR THEIR RELATIVE. SHE SAW MICHAEL'S GRAVE AND THERE IS NO NAME OR DATE ON IT. THEN, SHE SAID SHE ASKED SECURITY WHO IS SITTING ON THE FRONT DOOR OF THE GREAT MAUSOLEUM , HOW OFTEN MICHAEL'S PARENTS, CHILDREN, FAMILY VISITING CEMETERY SINCE BURIAL, SECURITY TOLD HER NONE, SHE WISHES AT LEAST ONCE TO SEE THEM THERE.
(REMEMBER BROTHERS WENT TO CEMETERY IN JACKSON FAMILY DYNASTY? SO THEY WERE NOT IN THE RIGHT FOREST LAWN FOR SURE).
SHE ASO SAID, AS A DOCTOR, SHE HAS READ AUTOPCY REPORT AND THERE ARE MANY MEDICALLY IMPOSSIBLE THINGS WRITTEN DOWN. SHE SAID, AT THE FOREST LAWN, SHE WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE AND HOW COULD FUNERAL WE SAW ON TV BE POSSIBLY THE SAME PLACE AS SHE SEES. THERE IS NO WAY FUNERAL WAS LIVE TRANSLATION  AT THE FOREST LAWN. BECAUCE ARCHS ON TV APPEARED TO BE STRIGHT ALONG WITH  CASKET AND SITTING PLACES, BUT THE REAL ROAD AT FOREST LAWN HAS WIND AND UPRISE, SO IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE THE FLAT STRAIGHT ROAD ON FUNERAL  WE WERE WATCHING .
THEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT PAINT "MAD HATTER" BY CELINE LAVAIL THAT WAS ORDERED BY MICHAEL, DRAWN THE DATE OF THE "DEATH", AND SIGNED MY MICHAEL. ( I WANT TO MENTION THAT SHE WAS HARDLY SPEAKING ENGLISH, SO I MIGHT MISUNDERSTOOD SOMETHING OR SHE COULD NOT EXPRESS HER SPEECH CORRECTLY).
SHE WILL BE GOING TOMORROW TO THE COURT, SHE IS PLANNING TO VISIT NEVERLAND, SHE WAS AT STAPLES. SHE ASKED IF  AMERICA BELIEVES IN HOAX AND WHY NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT. I EXPLAINED THAT AMERICA CANNOT SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE JACKSON FAMILY ACCEPTED MICHAEL DIED, THEY  ORGANIZED MEMORIAL, SHOWED FUNERAL, SIGNED DEATH CERTIFICATE, AND JARMAINE ANNOUNCED HIS DEATH. SHE SAID -VERY STRANGE. I AGREED, BUT WE CANNOT SPEAK OUT AGAINST WHAT FAMILY ACCEPTS, THAT WOULD BE DISRESPECT AND LED TO LAWSUIT. EVEN THOUGH MAY BE MAJORITY BELIEVE IN HOAX BUT THEY WILL NOT TALK , EXCEPT SOME WEB SITES LIKE THIS ONE AND OVERSEAS. I GAVE HER THIS WEBSITE TO JOIN US, I HAVE HER EMAIL FOR FUTURE COMMUNICATION.
THE FUNNY PART WAS WHEN SHE SAID HER GIRLFIRENDS NOT TALKING TO HER BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN MICHAEL'S DEATH, THEREFORE THEY ARRIVED AT FOREST LAWS SEPARATE. :lol: SHE SAID SHE KNOWS THAT MICHALE'S KIDS OFTEN FLY TO NEW YORK WITH GRACE. SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AN ATTORNEY WHO IS HAPPEN TO BE ELIZABETH TAYLOR SON. SHE BELIEVES THAT MJ GIVES US CLUES BECAUSE HE LOVES AND VALUES US. SHE BELIEVES HE MOST PROBABLY WILL BE BACK BUT NOT THAT SOON.
I PROMISE TO POST PICTURES LATER, NOT MUCH BUT SOMETHING. IF I REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE FROM OUR CONVERSATION, I WILL POST IT. Stay cool! Happy Easter to us and Dearest Michael!



Try and put me in touch with that french woman by mail or let me know and I can ask her questions and translate then please !!!!!!!
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Yes, I was there as I promised.
I have a problem sending photos to my email in order to attach them that's why I did not want to open topic.
However, I will post pictures later.
I was there at 10.30 to 1.30. During the the time I was there I did not see family members or media, or anyone whom we know.
  At the beginning when I got there was quiet. No security outside of the Holly Terrace door. Those families who have their relatives buried there have their key to open the door and enter, or if they forgot the key, they push the bell, security asks who is it, they say whos family they belong and they automatically open  locked door for them.
If you are just a public visitor, you cannot enter.
So, I was sitting in  my car and wating. later VAN arrived to Holly Terrace and woman was carrying flowers and FEDex package. She got in and when she got out, I approached to her and asked to whom she was taking flowers to and who is she. She said flowers were for Michael and she is an employee at forest lawn delivering ordered flowers to  deceased. I asked how often she delivers flowers for Michael, she said very often. Since she was barely speaking and understanding english, I did not ask her much questions. Then another car arrived and woman got out. I approached her and were talking for 2,5 hours. Before I write our conversation, I want to mention that group of french women arrived with shick bouque of a few flowers, toys, and memory cards from french fans. They were friends of the woman I was talking to. Then a few other native fans also arrived with flowers, stand there, cry, talk, get puctures. Security definitely watching outside because in a few min. door was oppened to take flowers in. I asked to let french guests in and of course try to get in myself, but he said NO.  
The french woman I was talking to, was a doctor, late but big fan of Michael, after he "died" she was reading and investigating for herself Michael's "death". She BELIEVS IN HOAX. She was pretty much aware of everything we are disgussing. SHE SAID FRANCE GET INFO ABOUT MICHAEL FROM TMZ AND SHE THINKS TMZ IS WITH JACKSON FAMILY. SHE SAID SHE IS COMING TO FOREST LAWN EVERY DAY FOR MINIMUM AN HOUR AND ONE DAY SHE WAS LUCKY TO GET IN HOLLY TERRACE ALONG WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO ENTERED FOR THEIR RELATIVE. SHE SAW MICHAEL'S GRAVE AND THERE IS NO NAME OR DATE ON IT. THEN, SHE SAID SHE ASKED SECURITY WHO IS SITTING ON THE FRONT DOOR OF THE GREAT MAUSOLEUM , HOW OFTEN MICHAEL'S PARENTS, CHILDREN, FAMILY VISITING CEMETERY SINCE BURIAL, SECURITY TOLD HER NONE, SHE WISHES AT LEAST ONCE TO SEE THEM THERE.
(REMEMBER BROTHERS WENT TO CEMETERY IN JACKSON FAMILY DYNASTY? SO THEY WERE NOT IN THE RIGHT FOREST LAWN FOR SURE).
SHE ASO SAID, AS A DOCTOR, SHE HAS READ AUTOPCY REPORT AND THERE ARE MANY MEDICALLY IMPOSSIBLE THINGS WRITTEN DOWN. SHE SAID, AT THE FOREST LAWN, SHE WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE AND HOW COULD FUNERAL WE SAW ON TV BE POSSIBLY THE SAME PLACE AS SHE SEES. THERE IS NO WAY FUNERAL WAS LIVE TRANSLATION  AT THE FOREST LAWN. BECAUCE ARCHS ON TV APPEARED TO BE STRIGHT ALONG WITH  CASKET AND SITTING PLACES, BUT THE REAL ROAD AT FOREST LAWN HAS WIND AND UPRISE, SO IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE THE FLAT STRAIGHT ROAD ON FUNERAL  WE WERE WATCHING .
THEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT PAINT "MAD HATTER" BY CELINE LAVAIL THAT WAS ORDERED BY MICHAEL, DRAWN THE DATE OF THE "DEATH", AND SIGNED MY MICHAEL. ( I WANT TO MENTION THAT SHE WAS HARDLY SPEAKING ENGLISH, SO I MIGHT MISUNDERSTOOD SOMETHING OR SHE COULD NOT EXPRESS HER SPEECH CORRECTLY).
SHE WILL BE GOING TOMORROW TO THE COURT, SHE IS PLANNING TO VISIT NEVERLAND, SHE WAS AT STAPLES. SHE ASKED IF  AMERICA BELIEVES IN HOAX AND WHY NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT. I EXPLAINED THAT AMERICA CANNOT SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE JACKSON FAMILY ACCEPTED MICHAEL DIED, THEY  ORGANIZED MEMORIAL, SHOWED FUNERAL, SIGNED DEATH CERTIFICATE, AND JARMAINE ANNOUNCED HIS DEATH. SHE SAID -VERY STRANGE. I AGREED, BUT WE CANNOT SPEAK OUT AGAINST WHAT FAMILY ACCEPTS, THAT WOULD BE DISRESPECT AND LED TO LAWSUIT. EVEN THOUGH MAY BE MAJORITY BELIEVE IN HOAX BUT THEY WILL NOT TALK , EXCEPT SOME WEB SITES LIKE THIS ONE AND OVERSEAS. I GAVE HER THIS WEBSITE TO JOIN US, I HAVE HER EMAIL FOR FUTURE COMMUNICATION.
THE FUNNY PART WAS WHEN SHE SAID HER GIRLFIRENDS NOT TALKING TO HER BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN MICHAEL'S DEATH, THEREFORE THEY ARRIVED AT FOREST LAWS SEPARATE. :lol: SHE SAID SHE KNOWS THAT MICHALE'S KIDS OFTEN FLY TO NEW YORK WITH GRACE. SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AN ATTORNEY WHO IS HAPPEN TO BE ELIZABETH TAYLOR SON. SHE BELIEVES THAT MJ GIVES US CLUES BECAUSE HE LOVES AND VALUES US. SHE BELIEVES HE MOST PROBABLY WILL BE BACK BUT NOT THAT SOON.
I PROMISE TO POST PICTURES LATER, NOT MUCH BUT SOMETHING. IF I REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE FROM OUR CONVERSATION, I WILL POST IT. Stay cool! Happy Easter to us and Dearest Michael!

Are you sure this french women wasn't yanking your chain?  Please think on that and why it would be totally illogical to release an autopsy that has medically impossible things in it
that any medical person can read.  Does she live here or in France.  How would she know the children go to New York all the time?  I could pose many questions here, but will leave it at that.
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Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"

I tell you "follow the orange trash cans"  :lol: this trash can stuff always drives me MAD. How can a famous cimetery, burrying the most famous man on Earth have trash can on the same place the casket is standing  :roll:  Everything has been prepared for HOURS, camera, flowers, chairs, security lines to keep media away, and the forget the get the trash out of the way ?

Yes, I think the same.
It's ridiculous, they made tremendous preparation and then forgot garbage cans: Absurd!
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Relax Java. I have already checked her out. I confirmed that she is really doctor, she was not alone at the Forest lawn but with her friends to whom Em (member of our site) saw as well and his wife talked with them(if you read whole forum, I was not the only one there that day), and finally we are still in touch via email, she is already back to France. I will ask her how she knows that children often fly to New York.  :)
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