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on the topic of oprah.....i felt upset at the fact that she did that interview with micheal at neverland........and was all buddy buddy.......then she interviewed lisa marie presley,at a later date......and i was gutted at lisa being so disloyal...and oprah .......on her side......it just shows that you wear the hat to fit at the time...so insincere.........this is of course only my opinion on things.......xxxxx
If she walked away from the last intervention...I don't buy that it was so painful because she has been around a lot of it. I think you become a little more desensitized to it, learn from it and realize how dangerous addiction really is. If she walked, hm, I would guess she got angry :?: She spent an inordinate amount of time convincing everyone that she knew what addiction was. I guess Murray will be exonerated after all.
I was just about to start a topic on this. ! I sat and watched this entire interview (and I plan on going back to review it) But you know what.........I get sooooo angry at Ophra because she spent quite a bit of minutes interviewing Janet about MJ I was like dam!~Go ahead and discuss the movie. For some reason it seems that they are trying to convince or (based on Ophrah's behavior)people that MJ was this TOTAL DRUGGIE!! I could not believe when Tyler stepped in! Speaking on Janet's behalf!! I was like WoW!!Tyler kept saying the Jackson's tried really really hard to help MJ and Ophrah was like "Yeah but its not that easy when you have money and power like MJ" I guess the Jacksons' have been getting negative comments regarding MJ's supposed drug addiction? Like Ophrah just kept pushing the drug issue which totally pissed me off!! :evil: I mean maybe I am in denial but I just dont' see MJ as this Crazy Desperate Druggie! I just don't! Your thoughts on this? Has anyone picked up on Janet's behavior in this interview it was kinda hard for me to analyze her in this one. :?
My thoughts? I don't know and really no one knows aside from the person who may be abusing drugs. I have a couple of family members who are addicted to drugs and/or alcohol. They are in denial and they continually give the impression that they are in control of their situations. Denial...pure and simple. Addiction is an equal opportunity disease. It can occur anytime anywhere and with anyone. Celebrities aren't immune. If anything they are prone to addictions because they have vast resources that you and I don't have to acquire their drug of choice. Each person faces challenges in life but most of us do it privately whereas celebrities live their lives publically and in fish bowls. That's no excuse it is just an observation. People often say that Mj wouldn't have become addicted because he has so much going for him and he has the children to consider. Well consider this...there are many addicts who have jobs, homes, and family including children that they ignore because of their addictions. Smart people can make dumb choices in life. Oprah may have been simply asking the questions that so many others... fans or non-fans... may be asking. How is it that someone like MJ could get caught up in the addiction cycle? Face it we do place some people on pedastals and assume that they are immune from normal human frailties and vulneralbilities. MJ was one of those people. I cannot claim one way or another to know if MJ was a casual abuser or a total druggie or not addicted at all. I cannot say that I know. No one ever fits the profile. What is the profile of an abuser anyway? I have met abusers and none of them ever fit the stereotypical profile. If MJ was an abuser then he had to do things to hide his addiction. That is the first thing that most addicts do. So that means that he may have indeed isolated himself and cut himself off from people that he knew especially those who would have detected the abuse. There have been quite a few family members and friends who have spoken up and stated that they had not talked to or spent time with him in years. That speaks volumes. I honestly hope that MJ didn't get caught in that trap. If he did, I sincerely hope that he sought help and found it. Addictions happen and they aren't necessarily the end of the world particularly if a person seeks help and climbs out of that hole
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"My thoughts? I don't know and really no one knows aside from the person who may be abusing drugs. I have a couple of family members who are addicted to drugs and/or alcohol. They are in denial and they continually give the impression that they are in control of their situations. Denial...pure and simple. Addiction is an equal opportunity disease. It can occur anytime anywhere and with anyone. Celebrities aren't immune. If anything they are prone to addictions because they have vast resources that you and I don't have to acquire their drug of choice. Each person faces challenges in life but most of us do it privately whereas celebrities live their lives publically and in fish bowls. That's no excuse it is just an observation. People often say that Mj wouldn't have become addicted because he has so much going for him and he has the children to consider. Well consider this...there are many addicts who have jobs, homes, and family including children that they ignore because of their addictions. Smart people can make dumb choices in life. Oprah may have been simply asking the questions that so many others... fans or non-fans... may be asking. How is it that someone like MJ could get caught up in the addiction cycle? Face it we do place some people on pedastals and assume that they are immune from normal human frailties and vulneralbilities. MJ was one of those people. I cannot claim one way or another to know if MJ was a casual abuser or a total druggie or not addicted at all. I cannot say that I know. No one ever fits the profile. What is the profile of an abuser anyway? I have met abusers and none of them ever fit the stereotypical profile. If MJ was an abuser then he had to do things to hide his addiction. That is the first thing that most addicts do. So that means that he may have indeed isolated himself and cut himself off from people that he knew especially those who would have detected the abuse. There have been quite a few family members and friends who have spoken up and stated that they had not talked to or spent time with him in years. That speaks volumes. I honestly hope that MJ didn't get caught in that trap. If he did, I sincerely hope that he sought help and found it. Addictions happen and they aren't necessarily the end of the world particularly if a person seeks help and climbs out of that holei totally agree
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"Quote from: "scorpionchik"Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"Quote from: "hesouttamylife"There is a time and place for every and anything. However I would think that 3 days before the trial is due to commence to save Murray's black ass just is not it. She should shut up now and if she still sees a need to get it out there that bad, talk later. :roll: But for heavens sake don't be the one to give Murray's side the perfect defense.what is this? what does it mean?I guess the poster ment, if Janet admits her brother passed because he was abusing drugs, that would be sort of defense for Murrey. However, even if Michael would have been drug abuse for real, that is a debit for Murrey, not a credit and help in defense. Murrey as took responsibility to take care of patent must have done the following: 1. request and review Michael's past medical record; 2. If he suspects Michael has an addiction, he must stop giving any medication and contact appropriate med. professional with the request to interfere and properly help addicted patient, not continue drug him up to get his $50,000 salary. No matter what Janet says, nothing in defense to Murrey.i understood what was said i just did not care for the racial slur that was added that is why i highlighted it with red it wasnt the whole statement just saying that murray was trying to save his black assthat is what i had a problem with.Not a racial slur. His ass is black and so is mine :roll:well maybe you should have a little more respect for your ass and his. lets not forget this is a universal forum
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"Quote from: "scorpionchik"Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"Quote from: "hesouttamylife"There is a time and place for every and anything. However I would think that 3 days before the trial is due to commence to save Murray's black ass just is not it. She should shut up now and if she still sees a need to get it out there that bad, talk later. :roll: But for heavens sake don't be the one to give Murray's side the perfect defense.what is this? what does it mean?I guess the poster ment, if Janet admits her brother passed because he was abusing drugs, that would be sort of defense for Murrey. However, even if Michael would have been drug abuse for real, that is a debit for Murrey, not a credit and help in defense. Murrey as took responsibility to take care of patent must have done the following: 1. request and review Michael's past medical record; 2. If he suspects Michael has an addiction, he must stop giving any medication and contact appropriate med. professional with the request to interfere and properly help addicted patient, not continue drug him up to get his $50,000 salary. No matter what Janet says, nothing in defense to Murrey.i understood what was said i just did not care for the racial slur that was added that is why i highlighted it with red it wasnt the whole statement just saying that murray was trying to save his black assthat is what i had a problem with.Not a racial slur. His ass is black and so is mine :roll:
Quote from: "scorpionchik"Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"Quote from: "hesouttamylife"There is a time and place for every and anything. However I would think that 3 days before the trial is due to commence to save Murray's black ass just is not it. She should shut up now and if she still sees a need to get it out there that bad, talk later. :roll: But for heavens sake don't be the one to give Murray's side the perfect defense.what is this? what does it mean?I guess the poster ment, if Janet admits her brother passed because he was abusing drugs, that would be sort of defense for Murrey. However, even if Michael would have been drug abuse for real, that is a debit for Murrey, not a credit and help in defense. Murrey as took responsibility to take care of patent must have done the following: 1. request and review Michael's past medical record; 2. If he suspects Michael has an addiction, he must stop giving any medication and contact appropriate med. professional with the request to interfere and properly help addicted patient, not continue drug him up to get his $50,000 salary. No matter what Janet says, nothing in defense to Murrey.i understood what was said i just did not care for the racial slur that was added that is why i highlighted it with red it wasnt the whole statement just saying that murray was trying to save his black assthat is what i had a problem with.
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"Quote from: "hesouttamylife"There is a time and place for every and anything. However I would think that 3 days before the trial is due to commence to save Murray's black ass just is not it. She should shut up now and if she still sees a need to get it out there that bad, talk later. :roll: But for heavens sake don't be the one to give Murray's side the perfect defense.what is this? what does it mean?I guess the poster ment, if Janet admits her brother passed because he was abusing drugs, that would be sort of defense for Murrey. However, even if Michael would have been drug abuse for real, that is a debit for Murrey, not a credit and help in defense. Murrey as took responsibility to take care of patent must have done the following: 1. request and review Michael's past medical record; 2. If he suspects Michael has an addiction, he must stop giving any medication and contact appropriate med. professional with the request to interfere and properly help addicted patient, not continue drug him up to get his $50,000 salary. No matter what Janet says, nothing in defense to Murrey.
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"There is a time and place for every and anything. However I would think that 3 days before the trial is due to commence to save Murray's black ass just is not it. She should shut up now and if she still sees a need to get it out there that bad, talk later. :roll: But for heavens sake don't be the one to give Murray's side the perfect defense.what is this? what does it mean?
There is a time and place for every and anything. However I would think that 3 days before the trial is due to commence to save Murray's black ass just is not it. She should shut up now and if she still sees a need to get it out there that bad, talk later. :roll: But for heavens sake don't be the one to give Murray's side the perfect defense.
I guess the poster ment, if Janet admits her brother passed because he was abusing drugs, that would be sort of defense for Murrey. However, even if Michael would have been drug abuse for real, that is a debit for Murrey, not a credit and help in defense. Murrey as took responsibility to take care of patent must have done the following: 1. request and review Michael's past medical record; 2. If he suspects Michael has an addiction, he must stop giving any medication and contact appropriate med. professional with the request to interfere and properly help addicted patient, not continue drug him up to get his $50,000 salary. No matter what Janet says, nothing in defense to Murrey.
I watched Janet with Oprah .... Couldn't get anything from it ...What do u think guys ?Her emotions look so real..
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