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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 05:49:55 PM
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Funny how I point out the absence of the rider, which means there was no contract at all, yet no one pays attention to it.

If you have trouble believing me, I invite you to call any agency or concert promoter to verify my statement.

I agree with you. I've seen a lot of concert contracts online and they have ALWAYS had riders.
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 05:55:10 PM
ernest as a child fan

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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 05:56:38 PM
i have never seen a music contract apart from the jackson 5 contract at 02 exhibition - but did not anything in particular

so i cant comment

pp are saying it was ernest at the awards show

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Michael Jackson Look Alike Spotted at BET Awards
July 20, 2009 in Michael Jackson Death is a Hoax - Fake Death - Still Alive | Tags: Fake Micheal Jackson Death, Hoax death, Michae, Michael Jackson Disguised, Michael Jackson Double, michael jackson hoax death, Michael Jackson Impersonator, Michael Jackson in Disguise

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Now we all know that Joe Jackson made absurd remarks at the BET Awards, such as advertising Ranch Records – his new project. Remember that these awards took place days after the so called death of Michael Jackson, and Joe Jackson really seemed unmoved. It has been reported that 30 minutes prior to launch of the ceremonies, Joe Jackson arrived without tickets and threw everyone into a frenzy as seating had to be adjusted.  

Thats the backdrop of what happened, but in the picture below, something caught my eye.
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 05:58:40 PM
Sorry the arabian nights, but please make up your mind.  Is this "the concerts were to happen" thread or "The Earnest Valentino" thread..?
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 06:02:32 PM
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i have never seen a music contract apart from the jackson 5 contract at 02 exhibition - but did not anything in particular

so i cant comment


Here you go, you can find boatloads of concert riders here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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The contract rider includes specifications on stage design, sound systems, lighting rigs, as well as an artist's wish list--from transportation and billing to dressing room accommodations and meals. In some cases, a promoter will refuse a demand (crossing out the request on the document), though stars usually get what they want, whether it's clean boxer shorts (Jane's Addiction), prune juice (Kansas), or an arrangement of tulips, roses, gardenias, and lilies (Janet Jackson).



Glad you mentioned this Mo, I have never even thought of it!  :shock:
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 06:09:29 PM
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Glad you mentioned this Mo, I have never even thought of it!  :shock:

I have posted this information at least 10 times as from August last year.  I'm glad at least someone picked up on it...
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 06:15:53 PM
the whole premise of the thread was the vid from ernest - thus it lead me to believe that the concerts were to proceed, i thought mike wanted to bail

i have thought that the hoax in my opinion was contractual - he did not want to do it

so when i heard ernest my view did change

but the more you dig and the more you listen to pp i feel i am right back where i started

even if mike employed ernest to be his understudy that would not prevent him bailing

sorry about the ernest postings - i was just trying to find out more about him - sometimes when you dig you find other things that someone maybe be able to run with, if may be the thing i overlook that maybe important

but on the contractual point can you post what the usual rider would look like - so we can have a look? thanks
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 06:27:57 PM
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please link to contract

I uploaded it to our server, that was easier than digging through the Radar Online website.

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the document looks a bit strange in format - it looks like a letter

is this the final version and not a heads of agreement - on certain issues

the documents that i am associated with at times have heads of agreements then the detail and recitals are added later, but the types of documents are different i appreciate that.
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 06:30:12 PM
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Quote from: "jessicakthx"
Glad you mentioned this Mo, I have never even thought of it!  :shock:

I have posted this information at least 10 times as from August last year.  I'm glad at least someone picked up on it...


Ooops, my bad! I'm kinda dumb sometimes.

I always enjoyed reading the riders. Some of those people request the strangest things.
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
well about the issue about Earnst and/or Navi being in the TII shows.  most and if not all of the concerts ive been to either have a warm up act, or an act to go on during the concert interval.  maybe mike wanted them to perform during the interval of the show.  and with the massive set list that mike was due to perform, he would have definatley arranged for an interval in the show so that he could rest.  so the impersonators could have been used to preform during the break... or breaks.

but that earnst guy is a scary look-alike, from a distance i really couldnt tell tbh, but hes definatley good !

as for the contract stuff im reading it as we speak so ill comment on that when im done  :)
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 06:53:20 PM
i think that navi was asked to finish up the TII footage post death - not during the rehearsals - or when mike was alive (?)

ernest was asked by mike days before he died to join the tour, so difference there.

yes mike enjoyed watching impersonators - but to put them out obviously - i mean there was to be a magic act and film footage - i had heard that mike was only to be on the stage for a few minutes - wasnt that KO saying that and KO also said that there would be loads of impersonators during the concerts if mike got tired

i think i read that on another hoax site - the stuff of rumours
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 07:01:53 PM
or is it possible that mike was going to do a number with the impersonators on stage with him ???

maybe like an army of michaels  :lol:

because i think i remember zaldi saying that they had to make copies of the outfits that he was designing...
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 07:07:48 PM
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i think that navi was asked to finish up the TII footage post death - not during the rehearsals - or when mike was alive (?)

ernest was asked by mike days before he died to join the tour, so difference there.

yes mike enjoyed watching impersonators - but to put them out obviously - i mean there was to be a magic act and film footage - i had heard that mike was only to be on the stage for a few minutes - wasnt that KO saying that and KO also said that there would be loads of impersonators during the concerts if mike got tired

i think i read that on another hoax site - the stuff of rumours


It was not KO that said he was only contracted for 13 minutes per performance date, it was IAN HALPERIN.

We all know what an assclown he is.

Just sayin'..
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 07:12:35 PM
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Saturday, 29 August 2009
Leaked O2 contract further discredits Halperin book
Michael Jackson's leaked AEG contract (download here) serves as another nail in the coffin of Ian Halperin's credibility.

As I reported over a month ago, Ian Halperin has released a string of fictional stories about Michael Jackson since late 2008 in an attempt to promote his book 'Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson'.

Halperin's stories have included allegations that the star was dying from a genetic lung disease, that he was so broke he had to perform on the yacht of a Russian billionaire and that the star was only scheduled to perform for 13 minutes per show during his residency at London's O2 arena.

As yet, there is no indication that Jackson's autopsy found any evidence of terminal or life threatening lung disease. The story about Jackson performing on the billionaire's yacht was denied by those involved. Now Jackson's leaked contract with AEG will put paid to Halperin's claims that Jackson was to perform for only 13 minutes per night in London.

The contract states that Jackson was to deliver a 'first class performance' of 'no less than 80 minutes at each show'.

Oops.
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Re: the concerts were to happen !
April 03, 2010, 07:15:04 PM
by awesome1 » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:39 pm

 "with the massive set list that mike was due to perform, he would have definatley arranged for an interval in the show so that he could rest. so the impersonators could have been used to preform during the break... or breaks... "

yes he would definitely need long set breaks throughout the show

and I wasn't thinking naughty... oh dang I just did :lol:  :lol:  8-)
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