A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

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A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 28, 2010, 06:50:38 PM
On another thread, someone asked if most of the world believes Michael is dead, then why is there not a bigger movement for justice (re. inconsistencies, apparent cover-up, and Murray only getting charged with Manslaughter, and not second-degree murder).  Why isn't there a big wave of protest?

This got me thinking, and clearly on a tangent:

It is up to US to stand up, unite, and speak on behalf and support of Michael.  The family has encouraged us to (Randy, Mr. Jackson).  If not US, who will?  The non-fans??  I don't think so.  That is why I have been encouraging everyone on this forum to take also take a stand, and to "protest".  We, the fans, are immobilized right now, because we are divided. We need to unify so that we can effectively and powerfully take a stand.  That is the only way to make a difference.  People need to stopped being distracted by focusing only on the hoax investigation, gold pants, etc., and get out from behind their computer screens, and start being vocal and taking action in their support of Michael.  We need to stand up in support and solidarity behind the Jackson family and make a strong message that we need justice for Michael and his legacy. This is not justice about what may or may not have happened on June 25.  Look at the big picture and at what is really important.  We need to unite and mobilize.  If there is not a bigger movement for justice and acts of solidarity, we only have ourselves to blame.

Get over the squabbling if he is dead or not, and unify to support the family and what they are up against!

Yes, this is a "call to action".  It's up to us.  We can't rely on the government, it is up to us, the people.  We have the power to make this the biggest demonstration of freedom in the history of our nation.

To make a big difference, we must collaborate and join forces together.  We have hundreds of people listed on this forum as part of the "army of love".  viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1934
Soldiers, what are you doing?  Names on a forum does nothing.  It's your actions that matter.  We need to join together, and DO something.

http://www.justice4mj.com/

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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 28, 2010, 06:58:20 PM
and what exactly are we supporting/protesting? be more precise please...
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 28, 2010, 07:14:18 PM
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and what exactly are we supporting/protesting? be more precise please...

Support and justice for Michael, as well as love and support for the entire Jackson family.  An explanation of the inconsistencies and things that scream conspiracy in this case.  Pure and simple.

As many of us that can should be present on April 5 at the courthouse, in support of the Jackson family.  If you can't be there, where your T-shirt or arm bands.  

Also, depending on how this case evolves, and what we learn from it, we should all consider taking part of the march to Washington,D.C.  if we are able.  ("One Million MJ Movement")
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=4 ... 201&ref=nf
If Michael is really dead, and if Murray is really responsible, 2nd degree murder should be the charge, not manslaughter.  This is what the family is outraged about...that Murray has only been charged with manslaughter, not 2nd degree murder.
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 28, 2010, 08:07:43 PM
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Uniting with other fans does not mean you have to believe Michael is dead.  All it means is that you are willing to unite with other fans and supporters to help bring about awareness of the inconsistencies and support for the Jackson family.  It is about our common ground.  We share the same cause.

It's time to build bridges, not walls between MJ supporters.
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 28, 2010, 08:18:35 PM
Is anybody listening??
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 28, 2010, 09:38:54 PM
I'm listening loud and clear and I agree 100%.  I, unfortunately live in Australia, but I like your plan, and think the same as you.  We claim to be an army, but we choose to sit infront of a computer screen all day, and doing little else.  Obviously, I cannot come to the USA and march with you, but I will continue to spread the word in Australia about JUSTICE FOR MJ and his family.  I will continue to let everyone know about the movements that they can join.  So yes, I am listening and I'm sorry that not many others are.............as always with L.O.V.E  xox  If there is something you would like me to do to help you, please let me know.....Cheers, from Downunder  xoxoxoxo
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 28, 2010, 10:20:21 PM
I'm in this forum that believe in the hoax, but ... When the Jackson family talks about justice for Michael I think they refer you to do justice, 1 - to clear his name so many slurs, 2 - to discover all those behind the conspiracy, I think Michael did all this for a very serious reason.
In another thread you discuss it we must help the Jackson family justice. I do not live in America, but I talk to people I know, and there are many who are Convinced of the injustice that was done with Michael, my only option on the internet. :geek:

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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 28, 2010, 11:51:02 PM
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I'm in this forum that believe in the hoax, but ... When the Jackson family talks about justice for Michael I think they refer you to do justice, 1 - to clear his name so many slurs, 2 - to discover all those behind the conspiracy, I think Michael did all this for a very serious reason.
In another thread you discuss it we must help the Jackson family justice. I do not live in America, but I talk to people I know, and there are many who are Convinced of the injustice that was done with Michael, my only option on the internet. :geek:

okay... I see your 2 reasons... (1 what are these slurs and to what importance can fans effect change to a person who "is not here?") for instance: the country fought for MLK to be recognized with a holiday. what do fans/family want as an outcome?
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 10:59:39 AM
(1 what are these slurs and to what importance can fans effect change to a person who "is not here?")


... I do not understand when I say I mean libel cases of child abuse, and this issue Affect the image of Michael not only in America, also the affection throughout the world, and I think each person from their respective countries can help. ;)

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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 11:06:29 AM
Quote from: "paula-c"
I'm in this forum that believe in the hoax, but ... When the Jackson family talks about justice for Michael I think they refer you to do justice, 1 - to clear his name so many slurs, 2 - to discover all those behind the conspiracy, I think Michael did all this for a very serious reason.
In another thread you discuss it we must help the Jackson family justice. I do not live in America, but I talk to people I know, and there are many who are Convinced of the injustice that was done with Michael, my only option on the internet. :geek:

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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 12:13:42 PM
Where are all of your voices?   What are you doing to support the family?   How are we standing together to say enough is enough?  How have you united with other fans to do something?   Michael may or may not be in control of what is currently going on, but in either case, we need to show our solidarity with him.  So far, we are not.  We are failing miserably.  

The family needs us, and the media needs to see us:  A strong collaborative force who supports Michael. Who demands justice.   How have you let them see this?  How have you let them hear this?  

You need to support the appropriate justice for Michael in all the ways he has needed it.  The family is asking us to.  Are you listening?  Are you paying attention to what's really going on?  Are you just going to sit back and let it happen?  

Where are all the strong women and men on this forum?  Please get out from behind your computer screens.

If you don't know what you are standing for, you will fall for anything.  Do you know what you are standing for?
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 12:19:33 PM
kingofmystery, don´t you think it´s a little rude?

You´re posting here an iniciative that many people may or may not agree with, and not everyone can do something, anyone may have a reason, I guess...

Are you asking to do particulary something?
Joining that group?
Write something?

Sorry if I don´t understand...
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 12:19:54 PM
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Where are all of your voices?   What are you doing to support the family?   How are we standing together to say enough is enough?  How have you united with other fans to do something?   Michael may or may not be in control of what is currently going on, but in either case, we need to show our solidarity with him.  So far, we are not.  We are failing miserably.  

The family needs us, and the media needs to see us:  A strong collaborative force who supports Michael. Who demands justice.   How have you let them see this?  How have you let them hear this?  

You need to support the appropriate justice for Michael in all the ways he has needed it.  The family is asking us to.  Are you listening?  Are you paying attention to what's really going on?  Are you just going to sit back and let it happen?  

Where are all the strong women and men on this forum?  Please get out from behind your computer screens.

If you don't know what you are standing for, you will fall for anything.  Do you know what you are standing for?

I understand what you are saying but in reality, but in order to gain support, it has to be specific, and not broad. Please narrow down exactly what we should be supporting... it would be easier
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 12:26:03 PM
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I'm listening loud and clear and I agree 100%.  I, unfortunately live in Australia, but I like your plan, and think the same as you.  We claim to be an army, but we choose to sit infront of a computer screen all day, and doing little else.  Obviously, I cannot come to the USA and march with you, but I will continue to spread the word in Australia about JUSTICE FOR MJ and his family.  I will continue to let everyone know about the movements that they can join.  So yes, I am listening and I'm sorry that not many others are.............as always with L.O.V.E  xox  If there is something you would like me to do to help you, please let me know.....Cheers, from Downunder  xoxoxoxo

Somehow, based on the lack of response in this forum, people in my country are becoming lazy and unwilling to speak out and show their solidarity.  This has always frustrated me, but I always thought those on this forum would be the ones we could rely on to make a difference.  I am being proven wrong, and I am feeling pretty disillusioned right now.  

Continue to be strong 2good2btrue, and standing up and doing what you believe in.  Cheers.
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
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Where are all of your voices?   What are you doing to support the family?   How are we standing together to say enough is enough?  How have you united with other fans to do something?   Michael may or may not be in control of what is currently going on, but in either case, we need to show our solidarity with him.  So far, we are not.  We are failing miserably.  

The family needs us, and the media needs to see us:  A strong collaborative force who supports Michael. Who demands justice.   How have you let them see this?  How have you let them hear this?  

You need to support the appropriate justice for Michael in all the ways he has needed it.  The family is asking us to.  Are you listening?  Are you paying attention to what's really going on?  Are you just going to sit back and let it happen?  

Where are all the strong women and men on this forum?  Please get out from behind your computer screens.

If you don't know what you are standing for, you will fall for anything.  Do you know what you are standing for?

I understand what you are saying but in reality, but in order to gain support, it has to be specific, and not broad. Please narrow down exactly what we should be supporting... it would be easier

I'm not sure how this is unclear.  What do you need specifics about?  The bottom line:  1) You support Michael and his family and want to show solidarity with fans all over the world.  2) You want to show support of justice in this case with how it will be handled through the legal system.  Nothing more, nothing less.  This is NOT about taking sides of whether MJ is dead or not.  It's much simpler than that.  We need to COME TOGETHER in unity to show our support.
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 12:39:32 PM
I think the fact that most people here believe Murray didn't do anything wrong, causes this (as you call it) laziness.

I do not agree with certain threats some of those non-believers made against certain people and I will not stand for that. Posters on this forum support him and his family as well, yet in a different way. They are spreading his message and they post intelligent things for others to read.

I don't think many of them will join a march where an innocent man will be accused of something he did not do, it's called trial by media and that is exactly what happened to Mike.

Please don't judge the members of this forum, you left me desillusioned now.
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 12:49:34 PM
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Where are all of your voices?   What are you doing to support the family?   How are we standing together to say enough is enough?  How have you united with other fans to do something?   Michael may or may not be in control of what is currently going on, but in either case, we need to show our solidarity with him.  So far, we are not.  We are failing miserably.  

The family needs us, and the media needs to see us:  A strong collaborative force who supports Michael. Who demands justice.   How have you let them see this?  How have you let them hear this?  

You need to support the appropriate justice for Michael in all the ways he has needed it.  The family is asking us to.  Are you listening?  Are you paying attention to what's really going on?  Are you just going to sit back and let it happen?  

Where are all the strong women and men on this forum?  Please get out from behind your computer screens.

If you don't know what you are standing for, you will fall for anything.  Do you know what you are standing for?

I understand what you are saying but in reality, but in order to gain support, it has to be specific, and not broad. Please narrow down exactly what we should be supporting... it would be easier

I'm not sure how this is unclear.  What do you need specifics about?  The bottom line:  1) You support Michael and his family and want to show solidarity with fans all over the world.  2) You want to show support of justice in this case with how it will be handled through the legal system.  Nothing more, nothing less.  This is NOT about taking sides of whether MJ is dead or not.  It's much simpler than that.  We need to COME TOGETHER in unity to show our support.

you can not just say come out and support MJ... it only makes half a point. It's like an incomplete sentence. how the case will be handled? it has to start first!! :)
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 01:41:32 PM
And realize we´re from around the world, what can we do in this way?
Take a plane?
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 02:11:49 PM
somekindofsign wrote; And realize we´re from around the world, what can we do in this way?
Take a plane?


I agree with what you say, all of us since our countries can do things, actually doing, we are in solidarity with the Jackson family, whenever there are more people actually reading the research being done in this and other forums What about Souza's research and Mo?
Propose something and we can discuss. :geek:

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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 05:15:57 PM
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I think the fact that most people here believe Murray didn't do anything wrong, causes this (as you call it) laziness.

I do not agree with certain threats some of those non-believers made against certain people and I will not stand for that. Posters on this forum support him and his family as well, yet in a different way. They are spreading his message and they post intelligent things for others to read.

I don't think many of them will join a march where an innocent man will be accused of something he did not do, it's called trial by media and that is exactly what happened to Mike.

Please don't judge the members of this forum, you left me desillusioned now.

Please re-read all my posts on this thread.  Clearly, I am not supporting any certain threats or negatively.  My gosh, NOT AT ALL.   I am calling for the EXACT opposite.  That's why I brought this up in the first place.  What should be happening is for all of us to get over our ideas about what happened on June 25, and stand in solidarity with the Jackson family.  We are collectively not doing that.  So many "fans" are all over the board right now, completely immobilized, and can't/aren't doing anything because of it.  I will say it again and again, we need to stop marginalizing and judging others...and start building bridges to all the others.  It's the right thing to do.  This forum has been brewing with negativity lately, and it's been heart-breaking to watch.   Somehow and someway we need to bring all sides together.  We need to build a network and coalition of support.  Admittedly, Justice4mj may not be the specific solution.  I don't care what it is, but something needs to be done to achieve solidarity and create positive change.  Call me an eternal optimist, incredibly naive, a visionary, or whatever you like, but I don't think sitting on the sidelines is the best way to participate in life.   Perhaps I'm just seeing things through a completely different viewpoint and angle, but I just want to find an effective solution for this issue.
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 05:19:38 PM
We live together, we are like room mates, it´s normal to argue about passionate issues.
But I see bridges between us here everyday, everywhere.

I still don´t understand what I am supossed to do to be considered an acting person in this adventure?
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 05:30:37 PM
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I think the fact that most people here believe Murray didn't do anything wrong, causes this (as you call it) laziness.

I do not agree with certain threats some of those non-believers made against certain people and I will not stand for that. Posters on this forum support him and his family as well, yet in a different way. They are spreading his message and they post intelligent things for others to read.

I don't think many of them will join a march where an innocent man will be accused of something he did not do, it's called trial by media and that is exactly what happened to Mike.

Please don't judge the members of this forum, you left me desillusioned now.

Please re-read all my posts on this thread.  Clearly, I am not supporting any certain threats or negatively.  My gosh, NOT AT ALL.   I am calling for the EXACT opposite.  That's why I brought this up in the first place.  What should be happening is for all of us to get over our ideas about what happened on June 25, and stand in solidarity with the Jackson family.  We are collectively not doing that.  So many "fans" are all over the board right now, completely immobilized, and can't/aren't doing anything because of it.  I will say it again and again, we need to stop marginalizing and judging others...and start building bridges to all the others.  It's the right thing to do.  This forum has been brewing with negativity lately, and it's been heart-breaking to watch.   Somehow and someway we need to bring all sides together.  We need to build a network and coalition of support.  Admittedly, Justice4mj may not be the specific solution.  I don't care what it is, but something needs to be done to achieve solidarity and create positive change.  Call me an eternal optimist, incredibly naive, a visionary, or whatever you like, but I don't think sitting on the sidelines is the best way to participate in life.   Perhaps I'm just seeing things through a completely different viewpoint and angle, but I just want to find an effective solution for this issue.


A lot of people are past the hoax clues, others will never get past it. Believe me, I have NOT been on the sideline, I tried to show people, so did Mo and many members on this forum. I think you are insulting members here that are trying their best to do whatever is in their power to get the message out.

Again, do not judge all members because of the snipers we have on this forum lately, we do out best to get rid of them.

And if you want to do something, you really need to explain what you want to do, this is all a bit vague. I mean do you have an idea other than marching the streets accusing Murray?
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
Somehow, I am not expressing this clearly enough.    :?  Sorry.   I will try again:

I have been very inspired by effectiveness in which certain groups have been communicating their message...they are clearly sending a strong message of support by wearing the same T-shirts, stickers, ribbons, etc.  (You see this with other causes, whether it be cancer support, world issues, soldiers, etc.)    If all the MJ supporters could wear the same T-shirt, for example, can you imagine what a statement that would make?

Because many people do not believe MJ is alive, in order find common ground with supporters/fans, we can't use that as the common message.  It would need to remain hoax-neutral, allowing for us to find common ground with what we DO agree with: support of the Jackson family.  And also to allow for a fair and just trial in the Murphy case (again, staying neutral...we all can agree to a fair trial and proceedings).  

I am a strong advocate for creating awareness and support for different causes.  I do this kind of thing all the time with other issues that are important to me.  Why not come together and make a strong statement of support for the Jackson family?  Raise our voices as one.
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 05:45:48 PM
We are here for a specific reason. We believe this to be a hoax and for some of us expect Michael to come back for a specific reason too. Taking this into account I don't see myself demonstrating and showing support to the family as I truly believe that Michael is well alive and that consequently Conrad Murray is innocent.
I just don't understand what you exactly want. Demonstrating ok but for what ? And take also into account that we're from all over the world. I only can express myself about the hoax in this forum. On this subject I feel all alone here in France, in my small village. So to me this forum is very important and a very good beggining as to show interest, love and support to Michael and his family because I'm sure they monitor the web.  
Note also that several tv shows have already mentionned the hoax websites and sure will continue as soon as we keep working.
We are here together talking about a lot of subjects, we're united in the name of MJ. What more do we have to do ? I 'll do it with pleasure if it can help but it has to be more concrete as it seems I'm not the only one who needs more details.

God bless you
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: IT'S TIME TO UNITE FORCES

  • on: March 29, 2010, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
We are here for a specific reason. We believe this to be a hoax and for some of us expect Michael to come back for a specific reason too. Taking this into account I don't see myself demonstrating and showing support to the family as I truly believe that Michael is well alive and that consequently Conrad Murray is innocent.
I just don't understand what you exactly want. Demonstrating ok but for what ? And take also into account that we're from all over the world. I only can express myself about the hoax in this forum. On this subject I feel all alone here in France, in my small village. So to me this forum is very important and a very good beggining as to show interest, love and support to Michael and his family because I'm sure they monitor the web.  
Note also that several tv shows have already mentionned the hoax websites and sure will continue as soon as we keep working.
We are here together talking about a lot of subjects, we're united in the name of MJ. What more do we have to do ? I 'll do it with pleasure if it can help but it has to be more concrete as it seems I'm not the only one who needs more details.

God bless you

After thinking your response through, I think you asked a very important question that I think is causing the confusion: "Demonstrating is ok but for what?" That is the question I have been asking myself lately: For what?  I think each person needs to answer that for themselves, and it might mean different things to different people.  

For me, it means standing up against all the injustice, slander, and conspiracy Michael has had to go through.  It's about civil rights.  It's about fighting against ignorance.  It's about loving your neighbors around the globe.  It's about the media mayhem.  It's about corruption.  It's about family.  It's about love. It's about all of the things that Mike stands for, or has had to fight against.  It's about creating solidarity with those who feel strongly about the above issues.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2010, 06:39:10 PM by kingofmystery »
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