[Zen]

I think it just odd that the picture of baby only, and then it says
" I grew up in Chicago".  and then there is a map, that shows
the proximity of Chicago and Gary, Indiana.  
Plus, the way it suddenly shows up after this forum discussion.

[friendlikeme81]

from wiki about Marlon:
On July 7, 2009, he and his family offered their final eulogies for Michael, saying he was the "soul" of the family, and breaking down as he tearfully addressed the crowd: "Maybe now Michael, they will leave you alone"[1]  and "I would like for you to give our brother, my twin brother, Brandon, a hug for me".[2]  Marlon fought back tears as he said "I love you Michael & I miss you".[1]

My mind is a bit rusty....but other than the quote above did Marlon ever state that his twin brother was dead or in Heaven during that speech???? Because if you read the direct quote above there is no indication that either MJ or Brandon are dead.  Hmmm.....makes me wonder!!!!

The whole speech of Marlon is on Mo&Souzas Blog: http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog.php

Marlon speaks euphemistically about Michaels "return home" from his "short visit here from earth". And "Michael you’re there, you’re right there. You have finished your work here on earth and the Lord has called for you to come home with Him."

So he is spreaking about Michaels passing as it is expected on a memorial ;)

[Jennie]

I found this on the old forum about MJ and Rockwell
http://http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/the-fake-michael-is-was-rockwell-t1636.htm?highlight=rockwell

Ok maybe you will think I am thick, keep in mind it is 1am here...,  :lol:
But when I click on the above link you posted, I get to old MJkit forum and in there in one of the posts, I clicked on a supplied link that brought me to his forum.,.. :?  How is that possible? I didn't think this one existed back in august when the link was posted.

Another thing, was Berry Gordy's daughter on the forum?

[MJonmind]

A random thought just came to me about that speech with MJ and Janet, where Michael said, "Now that puts another rumor to rest, Janet and I really are two different people." Could there be another meaning to this, like Michael being two different people?

[Zen]

This is taking me down a strange road,
PLEASE Rockwell come out and tell the truth now.

[rag doll]

http://www.google.com/profiles/bwifey7777

What the H :!:  is this?  No disrespect please.

I neither want to make things up nor make them more complicated- honestly: I have no idea if it means anything.
But something caught my eye in the other thread about Barry Shaw.
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=9827&hilit=barry#p162587

From Myspace about Barry Shaw: "...Barry has lived the life of Michael since 1991"...

Barry Shaw's profile on facebook: "Hometown: Chicago, Illinois"

 :?: :?:  :?:  :arrow:  :|

[Zen]

Hey RagDoll, you cannot possibly make this more complicated!  :)
You are right in regards to Chicago, independently of the baby,
I come to Chicago.
There are two possibilities, but have not looked into Barry Shaw yet.
One is mundane and ordinary, and I hope this is case for Kenneth.
If so, we will hear more shortly.  
Thank you for posting, I think everyone forget about Rockwell allready.

[Jennie]

I have not forgotten about Rockwell, I simply hit a dead end with him and dont know where to look anymore and by the looks of it I am not the only one. But believe me my antennas are always on alert and Rockwell remains in the back of my head at all times, I'm on the lookout!!  :lol:

[shelby61]

I have been reading this thread with some great interest and I decided to google Margaret Norton (Gordy's mistress) and this came up (among other things), but take a look at the coat of arms for the Norton family  :shock:

The Lion and the Crown .... not sure if this has been covered but we all know there have been clues left on his shirt, etc. of lions and crowns....maybe there is a connection to Rockwell...guess we need to dig a little deeper :D


http://www.nortonfamily.net/arms.htm

[Melzy777]

The date of births are different, but in a simple way.. Just move the 1 and add it to the year.
Rockwell: March 15 1964
Barry:  March 5 1965
Numerology still adds up the same that way.. 3 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 6 + 4 = 29 = 11 = 2

Hmmm.. I think it's worth keeping an open and cautious mind about Barry for now.

[FinlanDiana]

The date of births are different, but in a simple way.. Just move the 1 and add it to the year.
Rockwell: March 15 1964
Barry:  March 5 1965
Numerology still adds up the same that way.. 3 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 6 + 4 = 29 = 11 = 2

Hmmm.. I think it's worth keeping an open and cautious mind about Barry for now.

Good attention to those dates of birth, really close to each other. KG could invent the name of Barry Shaw. I tried to just think about Barry Shaw's name to that if it could be a hint or something  :roll:

[Melzy777]

The date of births are different, but in a simple way.. Just move the 1 and add it to the year.
Rockwell: March 15 1964
Barry:  March 5 1965
Numerology still adds up the same that way.. 3 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 6 + 4 = 29 = 11 = 2

Hmmm.. I think it's worth keeping an open and cautious mind about Barry for now.

Good attention to those dates of birth, really close to each other. KG could invent the name of Barry Shaw. I tried to just think about Barry Shaw's name to that if it could be a hint or something  :roll:

Yes, someone pointed out in another thread that one of Elvis' impersonators was named Shawn Barry.

http://www.angelfire.com/bc/firstattemp ... Page1.html

[rag doll]

The date of births are different, but in a simple way.. Just move the 1 and add it to the year.
Rockwell: March 15 1964
Barry:  March 5 1965
Numerology still adds up the same that way.. 3 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 6 + 4 = 29 = 11 = 2

Hmmm.. I think it's worth keeping an open and cautious mind about Barry for now.

Good attention to those dates of birth, really close to each other. KG could invent the name of Barry Shaw. I tried to just think about Barry Shaw's name to that if it could be a hint or something  :roll:

Yes, someone pointed out in another thread that one of Elvis' impersonators was named Shawn Barry.

http://www.angelfire.com/bc/firstattemp ... Page1.html

Hmmm, I´m having flashbacks...

"Shawn Barry, Elvis Impersonator?" - - - "No -- Shawn Barry, Elvis Clone."

  :lol:

[SEHF]

The date of births are different, but in a simple way.. Just move the 1 and add it to the year.
Rockwell: March 15 1964
Barry:  March 5 1965
Numerology still adds up the same that way.. 3 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 6 + 4 = 29 = 11 = 2

Hmmm.. I think it's worth keeping an open and cautious mind about Barry for now.

lol

[nefari]

Something just happened here with me a few moments ago. I bought a 35 DVD set of Michael's various concerts, videos etc...back in December and there were 2 music CDs included with the set. Well I've been so involved with watching the DVDs I had not even listened to the CDs until moments ago I put one in and so help me there's the infamous "Somebody's Watchin Me" song in a mix version repeating just Michael's part over and over!!! It sort of jumped out at me like um....yeah and where the heck is Rockwell now???? And where has he been or WHO has he been all these years?
Nefari

[Jennie]

Something just happened here with me a few moments ago. I bought a 35 DVD set of Michael's various concerts, videos etc...back in December and there were 2 music CDs included with the set. Well I've been so involved with watching the DVDs I had not even listened to the CDs until moments ago I put one in and so help me there's the infamous "Somebody's Watchin Me" song in a mix version repeating just Michael's part over and over!!! It sort of jumped out at me like um....yeah and where the heck is Rockwell now???? And where has he been or WHO has he been all these years?
Nefari

I find that odd that they took out Rockwell's parts, :? wouldn't that change the entire song?? :lol:  :roll:
This has all become a huge mess that seems impossible to sort through! :?

[nefari]

Jennie: exactly, that's the point I agree, it's just Michael singing the "I always feel like somebodies watching me......" and a mix beat etc....and it jumped out at me because of everything going on with Michael's "death" and I'm like *Why Now?* This song is OLD , never a huge chart topper, and if Geico wouldn't have revived it mysteriously I'm not sure when we would have heard it again. It has to have some sort of importance or meaning other than the fact that Michael sings on it.

[Jennie]

Jennie: exactly, that's the point I agree, it's just Michael singing the "I always feel like somebodies watching me......" and a mix beat etc....and it jumped out at me because of everything going on with Michael's "death" and I'm like *Why Now?* This song is OLD , never a huge chart topper, and if Geico wouldn't have revived it mysteriously I'm not sure when we would have heard it again. It has to have some sort of importance or meaning other than the fact that Michael sings on it.

Hmm... ok if it is MIchael always singing "somebody's watching me", maybe it could be a hint to the true fans why Michael had to do. Like he felt he was being watched, followed, or even stalked and was in danger... :?   I dont know, this is pure speculation though but we never know and I sure hope we will know someday. :roll:

I feel like trying to e-mail Toraborrelli to ask him about Rockwell, where he is,if he's heard anything of him in the past years... hmm.. I'd have to find the addy though and I'm not quite sure where to look, I'll try google later. It's worth a shot anyway and I'm curious as to what he would awnser me on that. :lol:  :lol: