DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 03:33:50 PM
HELLO GUYS,SORRY I HAVE MISPOSTED THIS A COUPLE TIMES BEACOUSEI AM SO NERVOUS.I HAVE DOING AN EXPERIMENT BY LET THE VOICE OF DAVE DAVE HEARING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.ALMOST EVERYONE ANSWERD THATS MICHAEL JACKSON.AND I AM CONVINCED TOO ABOUT THAT!AND I DONT THINK THAT 2 PEOPLE COULT HAVE AN IDENTICAL VOICE RIGHT?NOW DO YOU GUYS PLEASE WANNE HELP MY WITH FINDING THIS OUT?ITS AL FOR LOVE WE DO IT.THANKSXX
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 03:57:15 PM
Yes, is right sounded same, also art and points... ;)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 04:24:56 PM
I believe the only way this can be cleared up once and for all, is if DD and MJ voices were compared by a speech/language/voice expert.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 04:34:57 PM
thats a good idea I would have thopught only family would have the same voices for example when my daughter speaks on the phone people think it is me. but it would hard to understand with just being friends
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 05:40:44 PM
I cannot and will not believe that MJ was Dave Dave in that film. My friend and I sound very similar and on the phone and if we answer the phone for each other the caller will assume we are each other. Michael has up to now been Dave Dave, Hatman, Blonde next to hatman, Doctor Murray etc and he was seen in the back of his brothers car after his death, he has also been seen out with Elizabeth Taylor and his kids at a halloween event, he has also been sending messages via Cassandra and other sources on the internet. I have to say that all the things he has been up to since his "death" it will have been easier for him to do the 50 concerts! A hoax death is serious stuff and to appear in front of millions on film even if in disguise will be far too risky. I am sorry but this is not just a prank like when he used to get disguised to go out-the worse that could happen then is getting mobbed by fans but what will happen now?-dont you think there will be very serious repercussions? what if he was in danger? what about fraud? I just dont think most of you are taking this serious enough. I bet he is really scared now, can you imagine how hard it will have been for him and what he is going through now? He was far from an idiot and I do not think for one second he would risk doing something as illogical as that.
Sorry-I don't think Michael would do this and more to the point-WHY would he do this?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 07:54:34 PM
I agree Harleyblonde.  Just because someone "sounds" like somebody else sure as hell don't make them that person.....
I find that whole concept so "far-fetched" that it in itself is laughable.
Rehashing and rehashing seems to be the norm right now, because there is just nothing left to talk about.  If, (and that is a BIG if, in my opinion) this is a "hoax"....time will tell I guess.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 04, 2009, 08:58:42 PM
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I agree Harleyblonde.  Just because someone "sounds" like somebody else sure as hell don't make them that person.....
I find that whole concept so "far-fetched" that it in itself is laughable.
Rehashing and rehashing seems to be the norm right now, because there is just nothing left to talk about.  If, (and that is a BIG if, in my opinion) this is a "hoax"....time will tell I guess.
Exactly!! I read some of these theories and start scratching my head in amazement and is funny you should say about them being laughable as when my Mum visits and I log on she will have a good laugh and ask who is MJ today? she also tells me quite often that she is glad that I am sceptical as if I believed then she would have worries about my mental state and BTW she truly believes in the hoax. It is funny but also quite sad as sometimes a person is capable of convincing themselves of something if they want it so bad.
I actually find it in quite bad taste and do not think that Michael would even contemplate disguising himself as his dear friend who was so horrifically burned and if Dave Dave were to come upon these sites then goodness knows how he will feel, it is to my mind hurtful and dont forget that he too if he is not in on the hoax will be suffering from the loss of Michael.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 02:22:25 AM
interesting!

i just don't think Michael can change his voice like that.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 04:35:31 AM
well, whatever his reasons are, for me there's no doubt it was michael at LKL!! ;)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 05:58:45 AM
For my he is too.And what if Dave Dave new from his disquise?Am sorry but if you dont see that you are no believer in my eyes!M.J could disquise him that even his own mother dont requenice him.Is that see enough to you?Ofcours the question stay;Will he ever wanne come back?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 09:04:45 AM
There are voice changer devices which can alter voices from male to female and vice versa. Have a look on Google. Just type in "voice changer device" and there are audio samples for you to hear. Anyway the DD on LKL I believe is MJ for more reasons than whether the voice is the same. MJ was impersonating DD therefore either trying to sound like DD who may in fact sound similar to MJ anyway. MJ was trying to not sound like MJ. He was trying to disguise his voice.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 09:39:31 AM
Quote from: "francisca81"
well, whatever his reasons are, for me there's no doubt it was michael at LKL!! ;)

I absolutely agree!
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 10:00:20 AM
As I already stated several times on other forums too, I'm deeply convinced that DD at LKL was definitely Michael.
Just my opinion, though....
The first time I saw the video, I was shocked... Then, I decided to listen to DD voice with earphones, without watching... And I was really, really impressed since that voice, that accent, that way of pausing were incredibly similar to MJ's... Try and listen...
A MJHD member from Germany (is she here?? I hope so!!) made a comparison of Michael's and Dave's voices, she also mixed together words and phrases, you just couldn't tell the difference between the two!
Too bad all research work on that site went lost....
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 10:30:50 AM
JustAnotherPartOfMe, I remember hearing that video you are talking about, it sure did sound extremely similar. It's such a shame all the hard work is gone. It's hard for newer members to get up to date.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 10:52:27 AM
First time I saw it, I also thought, OMG it's HIM. But now I just can't see the reason, why would he do this :?:
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 11:03:15 AM
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First time I saw it, I also thought, OMG it's HIM. But now I just can't see the reason, why would he do this :?:

i wonder what the purpose would be as well!!! maybe that what you see is not always what is real!! he was pretty fanatic about that! :)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 11:15:38 AM
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For my he is too.And what if Dave Dave new from his disquise?Am sorry but if you dont see that you are no believer in my eyes!M.J could disquise him that even his own mother dont requenice him.Is that see enough to you?Ofcours the question stay;Will he ever wanne come back?
Hmmm, sorry but are you saying that if we do not believe that Dave dave is Michael then we must be believers that Michael is in fact dead? Sorry but my brain is telling me otherwise-it is telling me that MJ was not disguised as Dave but is also making me believe that Michael is very much alive.
All those who believe that Dave Dave on the LK video is Michael can you please just tell me WHY HE WOULD DO THIS? If he is a master of disguise and his own Mother did not recognise him in disguise then he was not giving you clues because if his own Mother didn't recognise her son in disguise why would he think we would?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 02:16:13 PM
Do not know why he this, however, would act very strangely with Dave LKL Dave had a lot with MJ commonly  :roll:
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 02:20:13 PM
One reason he could have done it was to deliver a public eulogy to Michael Jackson.  He spoke of the MJ nobody knew who was like a father to him after he received those terrible burns.  His reference to his father's "criminality" also points obliquely to Joe Jackson.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
I remember that Michael once said that some girls always recognize who he is - even when he is carefully disguised. He said that they look into his eyes and he only thinks "Oh no!" Because he knows, that they know who he is.

I don't remember where he said that but I do remember that he did. He described that those girls can tell through the way he moves and he described it a bit further.

Does anyone here know what I am talking about? Does anyone else remember?

Me, too, I believe Michael is Dave on LKL.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 02:50:05 PM
[quote = "Lilith"] Ich erinnere mich, dass Michael einmal gesagt, dass einige Mädchen immer erkennen, wer er ist - auch wenn er sorgfältig getarnt. Er sagte, dass sie ihm in die Augen schauen und er nur denkt "Oh nein!" Weil er weiß, dass sie wissen, wer er ist.

Ich weiß nicht, wo er sagte, aber ich erinnere mich, daß er es tat. Er beschrieb, dass die Mädchen durch die Art, wie er sich bewegt und er beschrieb es ein bisschen weiter sagen kann.

Hat jemand hier weiß, wovon ich spreche? Erinnert sich noch jemand anderes?

Ich auch, ich glaube, Michael ist Dave auf LKL. [/ Quote]

Yes I also believe this... God is thanks to I am not only with these thoughts. :D  :D  :D
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 02:55:30 PM
guys, we need to figure out the right hand of Dave Dave :) if someone can make identical mangled hands then this is a posibility, cause we all know Dave Dave has a mangled right hand, we need to compare that hand with the Dave Dave LKL hand ;) I think THEN we know for certain if it was or wasn't the real one or mj ;)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 03:01:02 PM
Okay
I think Dave Dave with Larry a hand prosthesis , had I would be glad if we did research there.
Larry, Miko and Dave were never common in the picture .......... always single persons  ;)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 03:06:36 PM
Harleyblonde, The DD on LKL I believe is MJ. I have said before on this site the reasons I think this is the case. Aside from all the mannerisms, odd suit size, voice, delivery, content of the message and deliberate mistakes this disguise is perfect. An example of one of the deliberate mistakes is when DD talks about "all these Paul McCartney records", "The Girl Is Mine". Do you not suppose the grown up DD would know this song is primarily known as a MJ record from "Thriller". I know it is a duet.  I don't believe a 7 year old child would have heard of PM. Would they not be more excited by being around MJ and all his stuff. By DD mentioning PM it could be to allude to the PM death hoax of many years ago. I don't think DD or MJ in disguise as DD would be able to bring himself to say "all these Michael Jackson records".
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 03:07:31 PM
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well, whatever his reasons are, for me there's no doubt it was michael at LKL!! ;)

yep!

while me and my grandma were talking and dave dave started to talk he she turned around and said.." boy he sounds just like mike" and i was like oh yea he does and then when i seen the photos and other info i knew..by the way my grandma does not believe mike is alive
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 05, 2009, 03:27:05 PM
[quote = "mjjveritas"] Harleyblonde, The DD auf LKL ich glaube, MJ. Ich sagte schon, auf dieser Website Gründe, warum ich glaube, dies ist der Fall. Abgesehen von allen Manierismen, ungerade Anzug Größe, Sprach-, Liefer-und Inhalt der Nachricht und absichtliche Fehler dieser Verkleidung perfekt. Ein Beispiel für eine der absichtlichen Fehler ist, wenn DD spricht über "all diese Datensätze Paul McCartney", "The Girl Is Mine". Haben Sie nicht annehmen, die aufgewachsen DD wären this song wissen, ist in erster Linie als MJ Rekord von "Thriller" bekannt. Ich weiß, es ist ein Duett. Ich glaube nicht, einen 7-jährigen Kind würde von PM gehört haben. Würden sie nicht mehr angeregt werden, indem sie etwa MJ und alle seine Sachen. Von DD, in denen PM es könnte sein, um den PM-Hoax der Tod vor vielen Jahren anzuspielen. Ich glaube nicht, DD oder MJ in Verkleidung als DD in der Lage wäre, sich zu bringen zu sagen, "alle diese Michael Jackson records". [/ Quote]

Tunes exactly .... thanks my thoughts just  ;)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 06:36:38 AM
In this connection, I don't want to go too deep... But some members stated that if you listen very, very carefully the last part of They  don't care about us between verses he sings two lines that sound:

I was dipped in fire
I was dead to remind you

I tried and listened many many times, and really sounds these words...

From a symbolic standpoint, fire is an ordeal, through an excruciating pain (either physical, as Dave had to go through , or spiritual, as Michael endured, a human being reaches higher levels of strength, purity, awareness, and finally finds the strength to forgive....
Remember the movie V for Vendetta? The protagonist is also dipped in fire...

But this is just my opinion, no proof... Speculations, thoughts, hints... I don't know how could we prove this. I'm only trying to explain, just my two cents...  :?:
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 08:14:14 AM
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Harleyblonde, The DD on LKL I believe is MJ. I have said before on this site the reasons I think this is the case. Aside from all the mannerisms, odd suit size, voice, delivery, content of the message and deliberate mistakes this disguise is perfect. An example of one of the deliberate mistakes is when DD talks about "all these Paul McCartney records", "The Girl Is Mine". Do you not suppose the grown up DD would know this song is primarily known as a MJ record from "Thriller". I know it is a duet.  I don't believe a 7 year old child would have heard of PM. Would they not be more excited by being around MJ and all his stuff. By DD mentioning PM it could be to allude to the PM death hoax of many years ago. I don't think DD or MJ in disguise as DD would be able to bring himself to say "all these Michael Jackson records".
Sorry but you are not convincing me. My kids know of Paul Mcartney and they are very young, I have known for years of Michaels very early Jackson 5 music-all the songs and I wasn't even born then. Don't forget Michael befriended him when he was a young child and if someone of Michaels fame and talent had befriended me and welcomed me into their home then I would want to know every single song/everything that person had done in their career. I knew of all Michaels songs and he didn't befriend me. Knowing a lot about artists early stuff before you were even born is nothing unusual. I love Bob Marley and Bob Dylan and can name just about every song, in fact I am a walking encyclopedia and know just about everything there is to know about Bob Marley and he is not my generation.
The thing is-none of you have given a logical reasonable explaination WHY Michael should do this? I am scratching my head and thinking that as you want this to be true you are all seriously deluding yourselves.
I just cannot get my head round the fact that some of you actually believe this. Your perogative but please do not try to convince me.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 01:19:14 PM
If one does not believe that MJ was DD on LKL then that is their view. But ask yourself this, why not?  MJ loves disguises, is good at them, has the means/knowhow and has a mischievous sense of humour. Look at "DD"'s demeanor, body language, deliberate mistakes over Encino/Neverland, whether MJ paid for surgeries or "DD"'s mother with the insurance. Disguising  as a burns survivor would provide better cover to pull off the interview without the average viewer realizing it was in fact MJ. People would not question his appearance because they were told DD's story and how he came to look the way he does. MJ would know that his fans would pick up on the deliberate mistakes and realize he , MJ was alive and well. Remember this whole journey is a "great adventure"
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 01:51:31 PM
Ok, for the record, just because we don't all agree with each other on a topic, idea, theory, etc., DOES NOT mean we don't believe in the hoax possiblity.
There is nothing anyone could say that would convince me that DD on LKL was in fact MJ in disguise.  
I'm with you on this Harleyblonde.  
For those who believe this?...knock yourself out.  Better yet, why not "investigate" what MJ favorite video game was at that time.  DD mentions "Pole Position".  I'm really surprised that wasn't picked up by now....lol.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 01:57:25 PM
my vote goes to mj being dave dave on lk live
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
[quote = "SPAKKLE29FUL"] meine Stimme geht an sein dave dave auf lk leben [/ quote mj]

mine is right there :D
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 02:41:18 PM
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Ok, for the record, just because we don't all agree with each other on a topic, idea, theory, etc., DOES NOT mean we don't believe in the hoax possiblity.
There is nothing anyone could say that would convince me that DD on LKL was in fact MJ in disguise.  
I'm with you on this Harleyblonde.  
For those who believe this?...knock yourself out.  Better yet, why not "investigate" what MJ favorite video game was at that time.  DD mentions "Pole Position".  I'm really surprised that wasn't picked up by now....lol.
Thanks for your support, I was beginning to feel like a grumpy party pooper! Seriously, I think the whole idea is preposterous and the reasons I have been given do not substantiate the reason for doing this at all. "A great adventure" ?????? like he is going on some safari or some sort of action holiday, this is serious stuff-I know he loved pranks and to fool people and dress up but this is an entire different situation. He never dressed up as anyone he knew though did he? he did state that he would love to walk around like us "normal ordinary" people did, so why didn't he dress as Dave Dave then? Also it has been said that when he was in disguise even his own Mother didn't recognise him so how in the heck is he supposed to be giving us clues- if he is so good at disguises that his family who know him personally and have been closer than anyone dont recognise him then you just assume he will know that his fans know it is him???? You all are convincing yourselves and are not willing at all to consider the idea is not likely and not logical at all.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 03:24:12 PM
However, I do not know MJ Personally, (unfortunately), he has in every regard certainly heavy reasons for everything....
I would think it nothing bad would be to be slipped sometimes in this person and to say welt what, Dave Dave would have to have in this case einwände not somebody else ......
I say only the Dave LKL like Michael was in many respects ... and I felt this  :?: magic  :?: acts to me sorry ones it cannot explain------maybe I am quite crazy :?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 04:45:35 PM
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However, I do not know MJ Personally, (unfortunately), he has in every regard certainly heavy reasons for everything....
I would think it nothing bad would be to be slipped sometimes in this person and to say welt what, Dave Dave would have to have in this case einwände not somebody else ......
I say only the Dave LKL like Michael was in many respects ... and I felt this  :?: magic  :?: acts to me sorry ones it cannot explain------maybe I am quite crazy :?
Same here.... I never had the pleasure and joy of meeting him. So I'm not stating what he would and what he wouldn't do.
It is just a deep gut feeling, that I'm trying to explain through all the tiny pieces we were fed up until now...
DD on LKL was not a tiny one, though. I think it's a HUGE symbol, to say the least.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 05:28:27 PM
Yes so it is ... simply the feeling as me these eyes saw.
Then I need to say nothing...
You know it surely exactly
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 07:39:03 PM
Michael Jackson is an actor as well as all the other talents we know him for. The visual disguise is not the only reason for believing it was MJ as "DD". Listen to what he says in the interview. If this was the real Dave Dave, why all the deliberate errors. The contradictions regarding who paid for the surgeries, the Encino/Neverland mix up, Paul McCartney records, Pole Position etc. These clues were there intentionally for fans to realize something was not as it seems. Look beyond the surface.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 06, 2009, 07:51:14 PM
Harleyblonde, How do you know MJ has not dressed up as Dave Dave previously? I am sure we do not know everything about MJ's disguises. Dave Dave is a normal person. He is not a character/piece of fiction. I heard a story which was told by I think Akon, don't quote me on that, that MJ was in disguise at the cinema/movies and Akon called MJ "Dave" so as not to alert fellow movie goers. Also look at the Dave Dave on The Leeza Gibbons Show circa 1996. You can find this video clip on YouTube. I think there is a possibilty that could be MJ in disguise as "DD" as far back as then. Maybe testing the public audience to see if he would be detected?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 02:38:20 AM
MJ was DD on LKL and on the day of his burial for one reason. He had to find a way to go to the burial and he wanted to speak to his friends and family, so he posed as DD.
1. DD eyes are a different color than the DD on LKL.  Sure hazel eyes turn colors but DD on LKL has jet black eyes, just like MJ.
2. The voice sounds and the voice inflection is like MJ.
3. The reference to Paul McCartney.  A 7 year old may know of the Beatles, but not PM? And why would a 7 year old put that in his long term memory. I mean if he went to Neverland, what about the rides, the candy machines, the train, the game room, the toys, the movie theatre, the animals...
4. DD was on staff at MJJ Productions, along with Miko. Why? What was DD's job at MJJ Productions? Maybe this wasn't the first time MJ had used DD as a disguse.
5. DD sat next to Dame Liz Taylor at the burial. Liz was seated at the end of the isle in her wheelchair and DD pulled up a chair and sat next to her. Does DD know LIz Taylor that well?  There were many people there who knew LIz Taylor but none were bold enough to pull up a chair and sit next to her, a hold a conversation.
6. DD spoke of MJ on LKL as a human being, not the what the media thought him to be. This was very important to MJ for the world to know.
7. DD spoke at the burial. His speech was very simlar to what we herad in TII about L.O.V.E. and loving each other.  
8. The oversized suit and broad shoulders were needed to hide the device needed to pull off the fake hands. Pulling off the hands is simple compaired to pulling off a hoax death.
10. DD appeared on LKL and has disappeared into the computer. He gave no more interviews about MJ. None written or in person.
11. DD's strange messages. On the one hand he says the hoax is a hoax and that he is greving, on the other hand, he approves messages from people who think he was MJ on LKL.  One of his last "moods" was "I am it." Why play with those who obviously care for his friend. Why tease us with crazy messages.

Conclusion: MJ was DD for one day.
Why?  Because he could.  He wanted to go the burial and he wanted get up before those who were most special to him and thank them. Maybe in some strange way he wanted to be there. I mean this is MJ, trying to understand him is impossible. I don't think his speech at the burial will ever be  seen by the public, because he knows he'd be exposed.


The debate will continue, but until I'm given evidence to the contary, I will always believe MJ was DD for one day.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 05:39:45 AM
foreverking, Thank you for your detailed post. I totally concur with you. You have put this viewpoint in a "nutshell".
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 06:48:08 AM
Do you all know this CNN report?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YkKWzG0 ... re=related

What are your thoughts?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 07:24:41 AM
lilith, Thank you for posting this video. I have seen this one, it is very interesting. If you look under the Dave Dave threads you will be able to see my thoughts on DD. There are opposing views on this controversial subject.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 02:28:09 PM
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HELLO GUYS,SORRY I HAVE MISPOSTED THIS A COUPLE TIMES BEACOUSEI AM SO NERVOUS.I HAVE DOING AN EXPERIMENT BY LET THE VOICE OF DAVE DAVE HEARING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.ALMOST EVERYONE ANSWERD THATS MICHAEL JACKSON.AND I AM CONVINCED TOO ABOUT THAT!AND I DONT THINK THAT 2 PEOPLE COULT HAVE AN IDENTICAL VOICE RIGHT?NOW DO YOU GUYS PLEASE WANNE HELP MY WITH FINDING THIS OUT?ITS AL FOR LOVE WE DO IT.THANKSXX

Are you talkin about the DD on Larry King??

Yes it sounds exactly like Michael. My Mom said that as I showed her the voice whithout telling her something before that....She said " Is that MIchael Jackson?" And his eyes!!
As I watched another Interview Of DD he looked smaller and his voice was different compared to the DD on Larry King
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 07, 2009, 02:30:30 PM
Kirsche

Yes my mother said this also and my daughter
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 08, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
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Kirsche

Yes my mother said this also and my daughter
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hehe. yes and as I showed her the interview she said " this can't be true! He sounds like MIchael Jackson....and his eyes look like Michael Jackson eyes"  That motivates me, hehe
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 08, 2009, 09:54:16 AM
Kirsche:
Yes, exactly I imagine it every time if I to me this considers is Michael Jackson, am gladly this several people believe ;)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 08, 2009, 10:48:58 AM
I immediately believed that DD on LKL was in fact Michael. Many doubt it and want to believe that Michael would not impersonate DD. "Why would he doit?" Many have asked this question. '  Ummmm why would MJ fake his death? Once that stunt was pulled, all logic gets tossed right of the window.

I do not have a personal relationship with MJ. We aren't buddies or phone friends therefore I do not know him like that. I cannot make claims to fully know what he is capable of doing or not doing. I heard what I heard when DD spoke and I heard MJ come across loud and clear. I have enough going on just with trying to search for hoax clues. Dissecting every minute detail such as why he would impersonate DD is a time robber for me. That's time that I can spend looking for new clues instead of re-hashing and debating the older proven ones.
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HELLO GUYS,SORRY I HAVE MISPOSTED THIS A COUPLE TIMES BEACOUSEI AM SO NERVOUS.I HAVE DOING AN EXPERIMENT BY LET THE VOICE OF DAVE DAVE HEARING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.ALMOST EVERYONE ANSWERD THATS MICHAEL JACKSON.AND I AM CONVINCED TOO ABOUT THAT!AND I DONT THINK THAT 2 PEOPLE COULT HAVE AN IDENTICAL VOICE RIGHT?NOW DO YOU GUYS PLEASE WANNE HELP MY WITH FINDING THIS OUT?ITS AL FOR LOVE WE DO IT.THANKSXX
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 08, 2009, 11:10:12 AM
Thanks for the support guys.If you look with your haert and listen with your mind you now I am right about DD in LKL.But how in haevens name can we ever proof that clearly? :?:
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 08, 2009, 11:30:55 AM
Don't know if you guys are aware of this clip, but again, it's a different looking Dave Dave and the voice seems different too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CkETwJ ... re=related
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 08, 2009, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
I immediately believed that DD on LKL was in fact Michael. Many doubt it and want to believe that Michael would not impersonate DD. "Why would he doit?" Many have asked this question. '  Ummmm why would MJ fake his death? Once that stunt was pulled, all logic gets tossed right of the window.

I do not have a personal relationship with MJ. We aren't buddies or phone friends therefore I do not know him like that. I cannot make claims to fully know what he is capable of doing or not doing. I heard what I heard when DD spoke and I heard MJ come across loud and clear. I have enough going on just with trying to search for hoax clues. Dissecting every minute detail such as why he would impersonate DD is a time robber for me. That's time that I can spend looking for new clues instead of re-hashing and debating the older proven ones.
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HELLO GUYS,SORRY I HAVE MISPOSTED THIS A COUPLE TIMES BEACOUSEI AM SO NERVOUS.I HAVE DOING AN EXPERIMENT BY LET THE VOICE OF DAVE DAVE HEARING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.ALMOST EVERYONE ANSWERD THATS MICHAEL JACKSON.AND I AM CONVINCED TOO ABOUT THAT!AND I DONT THINK THAT 2 PEOPLE COULT HAVE AN IDENTICAL VOICE RIGHT?NOW DO YOU GUYS PLEASE WANNE HELP MY WITH FINDING THIS OUT?ITS AL FOR LOVE WE DO IT.THANKSXX

Yes I was one of the people who also immediately believed that this was not the real DD at LKL!! compare it with the interview from 2007....DD is not that age anymore, where people change that much ( I mean the voice and of course the eye colour)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 08, 2009, 06:18:07 PM
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well, whatever his reasons are, for me there's no doubt it was michael at LKL!! ;)


At that point I was not aware of these hoax site, just randomly mourning for MJ. I came across Dave Dave on LKL on youtube and found him soooo much like MJ...so i dont think i was forcing it to be him..coz I was not aware of all these hoax sites..thought every one thought he was dead
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 08, 2009, 06:31:56 PM
Check this link out, there's a video and a picture build-up of how Michael could have made himself into the LKL DD.

http://www.michaeljacksonfan.com/AtMich ... =viewtopic
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 04:24:49 PM
Just look at DD's lips!! The original DD lips are very thick..( not meant to be mean)


His eyes do not fit into LKL Dave Dave!!!

IT WAS MJ!!
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 04:37:10 PM
The video you posted really allows you to see how the facial structures of MJ and LKL Dave Dave match.  Also, the point about the lips is a good one too. Can anyone explain why he did this?  I know he talks about his father criminality.  During the funeral he speaks with Elizabeth Taylor. Do you think Dave Dave (the real one) really knew Elizabeth Taylor????? I think that's a big clue. Also the fact that Miko Brando was there (also at Universal Studios, along with Liz).  Probably MJ's biggest friends.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 04:40:38 PM
besides, I remain Dave LKL Myspace Dave ... never is not the same persons.
I think this is Liz Taylor good point and with Miko also?
Faith these persons so well are not known...
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 04:43:04 PM
But there's one thing to think about:

If MJ was DD at LKL ( and I'm sure he was)  how could he be then the blond woman at the funeral( Which i'm also sure of he was...)  Or do you think that the real DD was filmed in the car on his way to the funeral why MJ switched into his next disguise as this woman??
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 04:46:38 PM
Kirsche

I think it if was possibly MJ it was at the commemorative celebration Stables centre, with the burial I do not think, this blond woman looks different and without sunglasses (not so wisely) ... it often saw to me in this thinks is not the same person!
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 04:50:36 PM
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Kirsche

I think it if was possibly MJ it was at the commemorative celebration Stables centre, with the burial I do not think, this blond woman looks different and without sunglasses (not so wisely) ... it often saw to me in this thinks is not the same person!


hm So at the memorial he was that woman and at the funeral he was disguised as DD? maybe...But this woman looks like the memorial woman to me...you were talkin about the blond woman in the row behind the white fedora man, right?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 04:54:51 PM
Does not know, I find this blond woman with the monument has resemblances to MJ, however Dave has zweifel ...., however, with Larry is quite quite sure for me, are there then such resemblances, you know what I mean?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 05:00:21 PM
Dung, now I think just that the Dave in the car with Miko (for myself) thus photoshop it looked or this it was worked on so? The Burrial material was anyway worked on obviously? Then would be natural possibly this was also MJ (blond)
thus then MJ could also have been the blonde with the burial :?  :oops:
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 05:08:21 PM
I am wondering why this topic has never been discussed in the media before, i mean this lovely story about DD and MJ, when MJ helped him when he was little and was like a father to him.. yeah, i know, because it´s GOOD news... you always heard bad news... that´s so sad! now that he´s gone the world realizes step by step the good soul of MJ, i hope he is with us to hear and see this.
If only those persons like DD had the possibility to talk about him earlier...
Same with what Al Sharpenton said at the memorial: "I want his children to know there was nothing strange about your daddy, it was strange what your daddy had to deal with." I hope MJ heard his words! (yeah i know we all believe he is alive and he heard it, but i´m sure you know what i mean..I just pray he does)

okay, back to the discussion:
i thought about "hatman" and i think it could be makeup artist Rick Baker. He´s the one who created the "werecat"  Michael transforms into in Thriller and was also the makeup effect artist in "Ghost". So he must be a really good makeup artist by the way ;)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000711/
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 09, 2009, 06:06:30 PM
In my opinion, Dave Dave is not Michael.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 12, 2009, 08:07:50 PM
Quote from: "Xsy"

okay, back to the discussion:
i thought about "hatman" and i think it could be makeup artist Rick Baker. He´s the one who created the "werecat"  Michael transforms into in Thriller and was also the makeup effect artist in "Ghost". So he must be a really good makeup artist by the way ;)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000711/


hm don't know...when I type in google  "Rick Baker at funeral" there's not one picture of him, where he was shown at MIchaels Funeral...So I don't think it's him....
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 23, 2009, 08:50:57 AM
It's very strange ...
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 26, 2009, 04:59:46 AM
I apologise if this has already been thought of, but:

How could MJ disguised as Dave Dave, be live on  Larry King show during the funeral, and then be at the funeral disguised as the old man with the fedora hat???????  

He has to be one or the other.  I know that some of you already believe the old man in the white fedora hat is Rick Baker, the makeup artist, but it just doesn't look that much like him.  This guy at the funeral had such a beautiful clear and almost fake looking tanned complextion, without any wrinkles for an older man.  Sorry, but I swear Rick Baker is much fairer and had alot of wrinkles due to stress...(maybe he is wearing makeup!!)  
So which one is MJ  in disguise????????????    I saw Dave Dave at the funeral in a wheelchair sitting right next to Elizabeth Taylor as the family walked down the isle.  So he got there very late just b4 the family arrived.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 26, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Darn just completed reading all of your posts and i agree with so many of you. So it's not only me whose mom also watched the clip and instantly asked "is that Michael Jackson?"  :D
i was watching the video of DD on LKL and mom entered the room and almost screamed "is that Michael Jackson?" later on one of my cousins came and asked the same thing "is that MJ??" and she didn't believe in the hoax before that. She called her younger sister also my cousin and we told her to look at the guy and guess what, she asked "is that Michael Jackson in any movie or what?"... So i was immediately convinced it WAS indeed Michael. Why else would 4 people feel the same thing when no one was given any clue??
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:29:29 PM
@harleyblonde, girl don't get mad at mjjveritas for quoting "it's a great adventure"... Seems like you missed out Michael's speech in TII!!!! He himself said this journey is going to be an adventure, a great adventure. Try not to get on people before comprehending the whole thing. Just a friendly advice.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 27, 2009, 04:20:55 PM
I put these images together......notice the similar "beak" noses and the eyebrow "arches".
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 28, 2009, 02:01:18 PM
LKL show was prerecorded? Michael can change his voice easily, the ghosts in the make-up part of the video he just nails it all by himself.

If we assume that the show was prerec then he had more then enough time to be on LKL( i am sure it was him there), he didn''t change his voice (that was the whole message) and attend his memorial dressed as blond lady (yeah i am with the blondy believers)
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 28, 2009, 02:11:50 PM
Please, can somebody help me ?

How Michael know Dve Dave ?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 29, 2009, 12:02:15 PM
Correct me if i am wrong, but he met Dave Dave at the hospital, dave was set in flames by his own father and Michael had a pepsi incident. so they met at the hospital .
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 29, 2009, 03:10:00 PM
2good2btrue, Regarding the appearance of Dave Dave at the funeral/burial, can I ask how you know which DD it was. From viewing the YouTube footage of DD sitting in the row beside Elizabeth Taylor then another clip where DD moves to a seat in the aisle, I could not tell from that distance if it was the real DD or disguised DD.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 29, 2009, 04:02:23 PM
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2good2btrue, Regarding the appearance of Dave Dave at the funeral/burial, can I ask how you know which DD it was. From viewing the YouTube footage of DD sitting in the row beside Elizabeth Taylor then another clip where DD moves to a seat in the aisle, I could not tell from that distance if it was the real DD or disguised DD.

I  didn't even see him in the video  :lol:

Could you show me, where you see him?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 29, 2009, 04:17:58 PM
Kirsche, I'm going to have to direct you to looking on YouTube under "Michael Jackson funeral/burial" for this footage. The video where you can see Dave Dave is the one filmed in the dark. There are several funeral parts on YT. I'm sorry I can't put links here, just don't know how to do those sorts of things.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 29, 2009, 04:21:36 PM
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Kirsche, I'm going to have to direct you to looking on YouTube under "Michael Jackson funeral/burial" for this footage. The video where you can see Dave Dave is the one filmed in the dark. There are several funeral parts on YT. I'm sorry I can't put links here, just don't know how to do those sorts of things.


Okay, thank you I'll try..

But how you can put links in here:
1. MArk the link of the video
2. right mouse click and then "Copy"
3. post reply
4. right mouse click and paste

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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 29, 2009, 04:44:28 PM
Kirsche, Thank you so much. I've written down your instructions and I'll give them a try. Not promising anything though.  :D  The YT videos are found by typing in "Michael Jackson burial". There are two videos with Dave Dave. First video by MJacksonThe1 duration 3:59 and second video by Ramllo duration 9:59.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EAT22JUbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOk9qtAW ... re=related

Stop the first video at 2:44 to see DD and the second at 2:58, 5:54 and 9:16 to see DD.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 29, 2009, 04:57:15 PM
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Kirsche, Thank you so much. I've written down your instructions and I'll give them a try. Not promising anything though.  :D  The YT videos are found by typing in "Michael Jackson burial". There are two videos with Dave Dave. First video by MJacksonThe1 duration 2:44 and second video by Ramllo duration 9:59. Stop this video at 2:58, 5:54 and 9:16 to see DD.

I stopped it every time that you said, and nothing, no DD
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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KeepTheFaith, It is quite difficult to make out DD in the dark and in dark clothing. In the first video at 2:44 look at the bottom left hand side of the screen. There is a female (Marcia Clark) I think, with dark hair. Count five people along from her seat and DD is there. In the second video at 2:58 when La Toya and the children etc are moving down the aisle to their seats you can see DD on a chair in the aisle on the right hand side of the aisle. At 5:54 DD is shown in the same position as the first video and at 9:16 you can see DD moving/point his hand. Hope this is helpful.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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In 5:56 you can see his white socks  :lol:
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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friendlikeme81, I think those socks are attached to someone elses's ankles. Dave Dave is further away so they can't belong to him.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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I FOUND SOME PHOTOS OF DAVE DAVE AND HIS HANDS ARE NOT EXACTLY LIKE THE ONES ON LKL.......AND DO YOU THINK MICHEAL DID IT TO SAY TO US .....".HEY YOU GUYS...LOOK...I AM HERE ..AND KNOW YOU WILL ALL REALIZE ITS ME........AND DONT LOSE HOPE.".............(I KEEP LOOKING AT HIS EYES....HE LOOKS STRAIGHT INTO THE CAMERA AS IF TO DEFY IT) HE IS PLEADING WITH HIS EYES TO US..........
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 11:14:23 AM
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friendlikeme81, I think those socks are attached to someone elses's ankles. Dave Dave is further away so they can't belong to him.

@Diane

Maybe we don´t mean the same person: But have a look here:

[attachment=0:l3e1dtr9]dave dave white socks.JPG[/attachment:l3e1dtr9]


Dave is sitting on the right-hand side of a blond lady and is turning his head to the left side to Liz Taylor and you can clearly see his white socks (MJs symbol !!!). Maybe he is showing them to the camera for beeing recognized by detectives like us ?  :lol:
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 11:16:17 AM
Ohhh this is Dave?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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friendlikeme81, I wish the socks did belong to Dave Dave. Are they not the bald headed guy's socks?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 11:24:28 AM
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friendlikeme81, I wish the socks did belong to Dave Dave. Are they not the bald headed guy's socks?

I´m confused  :?  They belong to the bald headed guy´s socks, that´s right. So you mean someone else beeing Dave Dave? Could you pease show me who you mean? Maybe I´m mistaken and did not see the right Dave yet...
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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oh, now I see, Dave Dave is sitting left to Liz, on the other side of the aisle!!
So they are not his socks. No clue, mmmmpf! :(
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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friendlikeme81, A Dave Dave is there I believe, with a hat/cap on. Whether this is the real DD or MJ in disguise as DD I don't know. It's too far away/too blurry to say for sure.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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friendlikeme81, A Dave Dave is there I believe, with a hat/cap on. Whether this is the real DD or MJ in disguise as DD I don't know. It's too far away/too blurry to say for sure.

It´s really difficult to see him. But if it´s the one with the hat on on the other side of the aisle, he is moving a lot. feeling uncomfortable maybe  :lol:

But anyways...DaveDave is the CLUE for me! All the other odd things are convincing more or less. But only Dave makes me really believe in the hoax!
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 12:31:34 PM
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friendlikeme81, A Dave Dave is there I believe, with a hat/cap on. Whether this is the real DD or MJ in disguise as DD I don't know. It's too far away/too blurry to say for sure.

It´s really difficult to see him. But if it´s the one with the hat on on the other side of the aisle, he is moving a lot. feeling uncomfortable maybe  :lol:

But anyways...DaveDave is the CLUE for me! All the other odd things are convincing more or less. But only Dave makes me really believe in the hoax!

Dave Dave on LKL and ESPECIALLY Leeza make me believe MJ is alive  :D
That and the ambulance photo
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 12:40:07 PM
Yes Dave Dave on LKL confirms the hoax to me and that BlackOrWhite is the fraud.

She says Dave Dave is not MJ but was a diversion to appear to be him or some such nonsense. Dave Dave pretending to be MJ pretending to be Dave Dave.    :roll:  
How likely is that?  Is he an actor?  Does he have years of experience being interviewed to make him so confident speaking to Larry King?  Why would the show even approach him to do an interview?      

Michael disguised as Dave Dave, wanting to hide and reveal at the same time - that's believable.  

And what was he trying to say in this interview?  I need to watch it again because it was probably important.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 01:04:22 PM
Elsa, It has occurred to me once or twice, what if it was the real Dave Dave pretending to be MJ pretending to be DD. Certainly the voice is confusing. One minute it sounds exactly like MJ then another time I can't hear MJ at all. I suppose MJ in disguise is trying to not sound like himself. The real DD on his Myspace message sounded as I would have expected him to sound. Maybe some audio trickery was used here in the LKL interview and CNN footage? What would the point be for the real DD to go on LKL pretending to be MJ pretending to be himself(DD). A diversion from what? If MJ was really dead, the real DD would possibly go on LKL but as himself with no deliberate mistakes. Hope this makes some sense.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 01:11:05 PM
I do not read the blog-threads ever, because I don´t think that anybody of those saying that they are MJ or having contact to him is real. This is a big chaos, anybody claims to be anybody, nobody has a proof.
Sorry for all those who believe in that. I don´t.  

I do only believe in clues I can confirm with my own senses. And Dave convinces me every time I watch these videos - the Dave on Leeza, too. People have doubts about him because of the skin, which is much smoothier than the LKL-Dave. But I think there was put some makeup upon the mask by the makeup artists of the Leezas-Show, because Leeza appears somehow the same "smooth" to me.

Everytime I wonder about myself about beeing so unreasonable to believe in a HOAXX I watch Dave and it makes my day!! :D
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 01:12:33 PM
If DD was well known before June 25th, I didn't know it - now he is crucial to the hoax, yet how many people knew who he was before June 25?  He was an MJJ Productions employee - I wonder what job he did for them.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 01:26:43 PM
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Yes Dave Dave on LKL confirms the hoax to me and that BlackOrWhite is the fraud.

She says Dave Dave is not MJ but was a diversion to appear to be him or some such nonsense. Dave Dave pretending to be MJ pretending to be Dave Dave.    :roll:  
How likely is that?  Is he an actor?  Does he have years of experience being interviewed to make him so confident speaking to Larry King?  Why would the show even approach him to do an interview?      

Michael disguised as Dave Dave, wanting to hide and reveal at the same time - that's believable.  

And what was he trying to say in this interview?  I need to watch it again because it was probably important.

You just read my mind!  :o  :D
BlackOrWhite said that Dave Dave was a diversion, so does she mean that he was just pretending to be Michael pretending to be him?  :?  Also why would he need a diversion?

And, the real Dave Dave has blue eyes. In the interviews he has brown. WHY would he feel the need to change the colour of his eyes??
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 01:30:33 PM
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I do not read the blog-threads ever, because I don´t think that anybody of those saying that they are MJ or having contact to him is real. This is a big chaos, anybody claims to be anybody, nobody has a proof.
Sorry for all those who believe in that. I don´t.  

I do only believe in clues I can confirm with my own senses. And Dave convinces me every time I watch these videos - the Dave on Leeza, too. People have doubts about him because of the skin, which is much smoothier than the LKL-Dave. But I think there was put some makeup upon the mask by the makeup artists of the Leezas-Show, because Leeza appears somehow the same "smooth" to me.

Everytime I wonder about myself about beeing so unreasonable to believe in a HOAXX I watch Dave and it makes my day!! :D

That last part you said I can totally identify with. When I have my doubts I just watch that interview with Leeza and I snap back into believing the hoax  :D  That interview SCREAMS MJ.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 01:34:39 PM
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Elsa, It has occurred to me once or twice, what if it was the real Dave Dave pretending to be MJ pretending to be DD. Certainly the voice is confusing. One minute it sounds exactly like MJ then another time I can't hear MJ at all. I suppose MJ in disguise is trying to not sound like himself. The real DD on his Myspace message sounded as I would have expected him to sound. Maybe some audio trickery was used here in the LKL interview and CNN footage? What would the point be for the real DD to go on LKL pretending to be MJ pretending to be himself(DD). A diversion from what? If MJ was really dead, the real DD would possibly go on LKL but as himself with no deliberate mistakes. Hope this makes some sense.

I did recognize the similarities between Myspace Daves and LKL Daves voice, too. The voice has a similiar timbre. But they are accentuating and pausing in a different way, I think.
IMO no audio trickery was to be used, because MJ would have done this without.

And I think that we would have had a totally different "performance" if the real Dave was on LKL. You can see if somebody is acting, and LKL-Dave is obviously acting. I think he would have told us something different, more about his fate, how he did get along with his injuries or how people reacted. But LKL-Dave is only referring to Michael and giving us unlikely facts (McCartney, PolePosition). LKL-Dave is totally MJ-centered, as you know what I mean??
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 01:44:54 PM
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If DD was well known before June 25th, I didn't know it - now he is crucial to the hoax, yet how many people knew who he was before June 25?  He was an MJJ Productions employee - I wonder what job he did for them.

People from the english-speaking countries know him, because Dave Rothenburg occured on a Hospital Serial on TV. This was also about 1997. And they made a film about his childhood.

But I wonder why I never heard about him in relation to Michael Jackson ?? I am reading a lot of stuff about him since his "death" and Dave Dave is not mentioned, neither in Moonwalk (1989) nor in any other biography I came across.
If Dave Dave was such a big friend of MJ, wouldn´t Michael have told us his story in "Moonwalk"? I mean he wrote about a lot of marginal stuff there, but he missed somebody he was a "father figure" for?

Does this make sense??
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 01:50:34 PM
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If DD was well known before June 25th, I didn't know it - now he is crucial to the hoax, yet how many people knew who he was before June 25?  He was an MJJ Productions employee - I wonder what job he did for them.

People from the english-speaking countries know him, because Dave Rothenburg occured on a Hospital Serial on TV. This was also about 1997. And they made a film about his childhood.

But I wonder why I never heard about him in relation to Michael Jackson ?? I am reading a lot of stuff about him since his "death" and Dave Dave is not mentioned, neither in Moonwalk (1989) nor in any other biography I came across.
If Dave Dave was such a big friend of MJ, wouldn´t Michael have told us his story in "Moonwalk"? I mean he wrote about a lot of marginal stuff there, but he missed somebody he was a "father figure" for?

Does this make sense??

Yes, thank you for that - this is what I am getting at.  I never heard MJ mention  DD at all and now, since 25 June, he seems to be looming large in this hoax.  As I mentioned before, he did work for MJJ Productions and I am wondering what job he worked at.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 02:24:48 PM
http://archive.southcoasttoday.com/dail ... 3li779.htm

Here you can see an article about DAve and a picture from this time.

Maybe we should talk about this article a bit more?

What if this is MJ too? I know, the similarity is not that obvious  :lol:
But you can´t see his hands!! His belly? -- Okay, difficult toppic. But it seems as if he is pulling his shoulders back so you can´t see that they are broader? O my god, I´m starting to read things into..
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 04:30:26 PM
friendlikeme81, I see what you're saying about "Dave Dave" on LKL not really talking about DD's life too much but more about his relationship with MJ. The reason for DD being on LKL was to talk about MJ not himself. He was there supposedly on the day of MJ's burial/funeral to talk about MJ, if he wanted to talk about his story, DD could go on LKL anytime.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 05:14:51 PM
okay, you´re right, but he seemed to be quite "disinformend", didn´t he?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 09, 2010, 05:29:57 PM
friendlikeme81, I'm agreeing with your posts. "Dave Dave" was deliberately telling us stuff that fans would know was inaccurate. Other viewers would not notice these mistakes and be none the wiser.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 30, 2010, 09:15:30 AM
i wish dave dave is michael in desguise , im desperate for my idol to be alive. michael pls come back
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 30, 2010, 09:18:22 AM
the dave dave who was with larry king live i believe might be michael.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 31, 2010, 11:03:44 AM
LIKE I SAID ON ANOTHER THREAD.....THERE ARE PHOTOS OF DAVE DAVE WITH HIS MOTHER......SORRY  CANT REMEMBER HOW I FOUND THEM!!! BUT I WAS SURE THE HAND HE HAS ON HIS MOTHERS SHOULDER IS DIFFERENT TO LKL ONE........XXXX
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

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BUT I WAS SURE THE HAND HE HAS ON HIS MOTHERS SHOULDER IS DIFFERENT TO LKL ONE........XXXX

Yes it is. Have a look of this pictures.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4374/augenfingerde.jpg

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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: January 31, 2010, 12:02:11 PM
THERE YOU GO.........HOW CAN ANYONE POSSIBLY ARGUE WITH THAT.......???????? THE HANDS ARE DIFFERENT.....MICHEAL YOU ARE GENIUS!!!!! JUST DIFFERENT ENOUGH FOR US TO LOOK CLOSELY......AND THEN........BAM.....WE KNOW WHAT YOUR TELLING US.........WHAT A GUY!!!!!!
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Re: DAVE is Mi ka eel on LKL?

  • on: February 01, 2010, 04:30:28 AM
I believe that Mi ka eel was Dave Dave on Larry King live and if you listen to the interview you will here him say something about changing his name.
Mi ka eel I believe!
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: February 03, 2010, 05:43:37 PM
essenceofebony0to9, Dave Dave or "Dave Dave" was talking in regards to DD changing his name i.e. from David Rothenberg to Dave Dave. If this was MJ in disguise as "DD" he was not talking about Michael changing his name to Mikaeel.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: February 05, 2010, 09:09:17 PM
I am 95% sure DD in LKL was MJ.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: February 08, 2010, 02:44:07 PM
Dave Dave at Superbowl with Brad and Angelina??

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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: February 08, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
thinktwice, Thanks for the link. I don't think it is Dave Dave but can't say for sure. Does Dave Dave like American Football? Do you think it is DD?
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: February 08, 2010, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
I do not read the blog-threads ever, because I don´t think that anybody of those saying that they are MJ or having contact to him is real. This is a big chaos, anybody claims to be anybody, nobody has a proof.
Sorry for all those who believe in that. I don´t.  

I do only believe in clues I can confirm with my own senses. And Dave convinces me every time I watch these videos - the Dave on Leeza, too. People have doubts about him because of the skin, which is much smoothier than the LKL-Dave. But I think there was put some makeup upon the mask by the makeup artists of the Leezas-Show, because Leeza appears somehow the same "smooth" to me.

Everytime I wonder about myself about beeing so unreasonable to believe in a HOAXX I watch Dave and it makes my day!! :D

Exactly.  Or take a look at the ambulance photo one more time.  These two things convinced me of the hoax too.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: February 08, 2010, 11:24:53 PM
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Dave Dave at Superbowl with Brad and Angelina??

http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/08/brad-pitt ... the-world/

That is not Dave Dave.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: December 10, 2010, 09:33:51 PM
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I FOUND SOME PHOTOS OF DAVE DAVE AND HIS HANDS ARE NOT EXACTLY LIKE THE ONES ON LKL.......AND DO YOU THINK MICHEAL DID IT TO SAY TO US .....".HEY YOU GUYS...LOOK...I AM HERE ..AND KNOW YOU WILL ALL REALIZE ITS ME........AND DONT LOSE HOPE.".............(I KEEP LOOKING AT HIS EYES....HE LOOKS STRAIGHT INTO THE CAMERA AS IF TO DEFY IT) HE IS PLEADING WITH HIS EYES TO US..........


Pleading eyes. That's exactly the words I thought. That look I've seen somewhere before and I can't remember where but it's definitely a plea in his eyes.
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Re: DAVE DAVE IS THE CLUE!!

  • on: August 23, 2012, 07:20:27 AM
I'm sorry, cause I'm not sure if this is best topic to this post but I didn't find better.
I just thought to share this with you, don't know if it's important or not but surely interresting!
This is a video where Akon tells about going to movies with disquised Michael Jackson  and calling him Dave  :icon_albino:
Check out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHaUsuanVfQ&feature=autoplay&list=PLEE2EC7BCCD040009&playnext=4

 

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