Very strange but could be a coincedence..

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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 03:35:42 AM
imo j b is a junkie, who got his fame with m jagger, and all. Conrad must have been 10 when they were hot.  maybe its a name, like dr death, ali chemicali, a escape. This man is not real, mobody knows him, xcept the victims. ?????? Con rat moon ray, aka the celdeadrity doc. Hahaha..... I feeeeeel gooooooood. Btw check op youtube ff james brown high. Wat een freakshow!!!!!!
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 04:21:45 AM
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!

When did he laugh?  I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset.  He kissed James Browns head in the coffin.  Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.

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This isn't a picture of MJ laughing at JB's funeral, but he is smiling.

He seems upset. This isn't a smile.
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 04:32:46 AM
There is one thing I càn`t get out of my head.....I remember in 2007 Mike had an interview and he said that he do not want to end up  like James Brown..performing all of his life and basically die on stage ....He was talking about retirement and some other projects...




Hmmm I am trying to find that interview `cause it may be important....
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

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HERE IT IS....  ;)  He had an interview with Ebony magazine ....

Q: So, you’re almost 50 now. Do you think you’ll be doing this at 80?
A: The truth is, umm, no. Not the way James Brown did, or Jackie Wilson did, where they just ran it out, they killed themselves. In my opinion, I wish [Brown] could have slowed down and been more relaxed and enjoyed his hard work.

Q: Will you tour again?
A: I don’t care about long tours. But what I love about touring is that it sharpens ones craft beautifully. That’s what I love about Broadway, that’s why actors turn to Broadway, to sharpen their skills. It does do that. ‘Cause it takes years to become a great entertainer. Years. You can’t just grab some guy out of obscurity and throw ‘em out there and expect for this person to compete with that person. It’ll never work. And the audience knows it; they can see it. The way they gesture their hand, move their body, the way they do anything with the microphone, or the way they bow. They can see it right away.

Q: Do you work with these young artists?
A: Sure. I’ve always been the type where, I don’t care if it’s the mailman or the guy sweeping the floor. If it’s a great song, it’s a great song. Some of the most ingenious ideas come from everyday people, who just go, ‘Why don’t you try this, or do this.’ It’ll be a wonderful idea, so you should just try it. Chris Brown is wonderful. Akon, he’s a wonderful artist.
I always want to do music that inspires or influences another generation. You want what you create to live, be it sculpture or painting or music. Like Michelangelo, he said, “I know the creator will go, but his work survives. That is why to escape death, I attempt to bind my soul to my work.’ And that’s how I feel. I give my all to my work. I want it to just live.

These are his very words....He said it  :D ... ...He couldn`t be that stupid to actually end up like him...It sure is a hoax :D
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 07:16:21 AM
Now I'm just gonna tell the story looking from a different perspective.
Let's PRETEND this is NOT a HOAX
Because I just don't understand why MJ hired doc Murray so let's say:
What if James Brown had a drug addiction and he has told MJ about doc Murray.  Like if he ever needed something like that(drugs) this guy would deliver everything he asked for. If you know what I'm trying to say.
Let's say maybe he had to do the concerts for financial reasons. Remember they were about to do an auction on his personal stuff. Maybe he found it hard to sell all his personal belongings and Dr Tohme Tohme came up with doing some concerts instead. So maybe he just had no other option then doing these concerts.
And maybe the stress got to him and therefore he needed things to relax and sleep. Maybe that's how he ended up with doc Murray.
Now what may have happened on June 25th? So he couldn't sleep and Murray gave him something, and Murray left the room for some time...maybe MJ woke up again and Murray wasn't there, so if it was with IV and you just have to push to get a dose, maybe MJ pushed again and therefore accidentilly overdosing himself. Remember Murray saying he didn't give him anything that could have killed him.
I'm not defending doc Murray here but if this is not a hoax then this is maybe what could have happened?
I think we should investigate all sides of the story but of course I also hope it's all just a hoax.
I just don't understand what he was doing with doc Murray knowing what had happened to James Brown.
So please don't be mad after reading this. I still 100% believe in the hoax.
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

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Is there any information about Murray being James Brown's doctor before Michael 'died'. The only articles I can find seem to be since June 2009. This might not mean anything, but it does seem odd that there doesn't seem to be any earlier news on this to confirm it. I feel there is something very connected here, maybe MJ is trying to get justice for JB as well or there is always the possibility that JB hoaxed his death too. I'm not saying I believe he did but there is a small chance... Something is going on here, I'm sure.
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 08:38:18 AM
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!

When did he laugh?  I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset.  He kissed James Browns head in the coffin.  Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.

+1


This isn't a picture of MJ laughing at JB's funeral, but he is smiling.





Well at least we see James Brown in the coffin. We know  he is dead, more that we can say about MJ.. We have seen just a closed casket..
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 09:53:39 AM
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!
michael was laughing  :!:  why :?:  :o
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 10:00:59 AM
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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!

When did he laugh?  I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset.  He kissed James Browns head in the coffin.  Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.


Yes, I want to know when MJ laughed and in what context it was in. Is there footage??? Really, MJ spent 5 hours with the body of James Brown????? Hum?!?!?!? That is a long time.....was he studying the body-----amazed how a decoy could look so authentic, so life-like????? :shock:
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

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I always thought that is was very strange seeing MJ laughing at JB's burial!

When did he laugh?  I dont remember him laughing, i thought he looked upset.  He kissed James Browns head in the coffin.  Ive heard stories that he spent 5 hours with the body at the mortuary.

+1


This isn't a picture of MJ laughing at JB's funeral, but he is smiling.
he was probably smiling at someone :|
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 10:07:23 AM
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Now I'm just gonna tell the story looking from a different perspective.
Let's PRETEND this is NOT a HOAX
Because I just don't understand why MJ hired doc Murray so let's say:
What if James Brown had a drug addiction and he has told MJ about doc Murray.  Like if he ever needed something like that(drugs) this guy would deliver everything he asked for. If you know what I'm trying to say.
Let's say maybe he had to do the concerts for financial reasons. Remember they were about to do an auction on his personal stuff. Maybe he found it hard to sell all his personal belongings and Dr Tohme Tohme came up with doing some concerts instead. So maybe he just had no other option then doing these concerts.
And maybe the stress got to him and therefore he needed things to relax and sleep. Maybe that's how he ended up with doc Murray.
Now what may have happened on June 25th? So he couldn't sleep and Murray gave him something, and Murray left the room for some time...maybe MJ woke up again and Murray wasn't there, so if it was with IV and you just have to push to get a dose, maybe MJ pushed again and therefore accidentilly overdosing himself. Remember Murray saying he didn't give him anything that could have killed him.
I'm not defending doc Murray here but if this is not a hoax then this is maybe what could have happened?
I think we should investigate all sides of the story but of course I also hope it's all just a hoax.
I just don't understand what he was doing with doc Murray knowing what had happened to James Brown.
So please don't be mad after reading this. I still 100% believe in the hoax.

The question is....was this propofol attached to a pump or was it to gravity or was good ol' Dr. Murray pushing it every so often through a syringe.  It is all so bleak, the details. It is always possible that MJ gave himself an extra bolus (I guess in any regard) but I still cannot see him exiting from this life intentionally when his children have always been his focus and mainstay. In my opinion, he would have had to have been rather depressed to have detached from the "reality" of such things to do himself in. I don't want to believe it. I feel that Michael has been to hell and back so many times that he wouldn't allow himself to cave this time. God, I pray I am right! However, you are right.....we must consider the unthinkable.....as much as I don't like it or want to agree with it. My heart tells me it just isn't so.
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

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I CANT SEE HIM GIVING HIMSELF THE MED, WHEN IT STATES IT WAS COMING IN THROUGH HIS ANKLE OR BOTTOM LEG.
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

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Now I'm just gonna tell the story looking from a different perspective.
Let's PRETEND this is NOT a HOAX
Because I just don't understand why MJ hired doc Murray so let's say:
What if James Brown had a drug addiction and he has told MJ about doc Murray. Like if he ever needed something like that(drugs) this guy would deliver everything he asked for. If you know what I'm trying to say.
Let's say maybe he had to do the concerts for financial reasons. Remember they were about to do an auction on his personal stuff. Maybe he found it hard to sell all his personal belongings and Dr Tohme Tohme came up with doing some concerts instead. So maybe he just had no other option then doing these concerts.
And maybe the stress got to him and therefore he needed things to relax and sleep. Maybe that's how he ended up with doc Murray.
Now what may have happened on June 25th? So he couldn't sleep and Murray gave him something, and Murray left the room for some time...maybe MJ woke up again and Murray wasn't there, so if it was with IV and you just have to push to get a dose, maybe MJ pushed again and therefore accidentilly overdosing himself. Remember Murray saying he didn't give him anything that could have killed him.
I'm not defending doc Murray here but if this is not a hoax then this is maybe what could have happened?
I think we should investigate all sides of the story but of course I also hope it's all just a hoax.
I just don't understand what he was doing with doc Murray knowing what had happened to James Brown.
So please don't be mad after reading this. I still 100% believe in the hoax.
I am not mad I completely get what your saying. You have to look at both sides of the story. There are some days where I really think he is dead but then come to this forum and remember the strange things.! Thanks anyways.!
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

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MJ’s doc also catered to drug-addled James Brown’s needs
August 3rd, 2009 - 2:41 pm ICT by ANI Tell a Friend -

Michael Jackson New York, Aug 3 (ANI): If reports are to be believed, late King of Pop Michael Jackson’s doctor was part of a group of “feel good” physicians who catered to the needs of celebrities in the 1990s.

According to a former law-enforcement source, Dr. Conrad Murray, who is under investigation for Jackson’s death, had also catered to the needs of drug-addled Godfather of Soul James Brown.

“James Brown and Michael Jackson were inseparable and they used the same ’safe doctors’ — doctors who would get them anything they wanted,” the New York Post quoted Brown’s long-time producer and assistant, Jacque Hollander, as saying.

“If James Brown wanted drugs, he knew he could get them from these safe doctors in Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas and Los Angeles,” Hollander said.

Brown died of congestive heart failure in 2006, and it was reported at the time that he was battling an addiction to painkillers and PCP.

His wife, Adrienne, had also been one of Murray’s patients when she died 10 years earlier in LA under mysterious circumstances, and the immediate cause of her death was given as being due to PCP intake coupled with heart disease.

Charles Bobbit, Brown’s personal assistant and business manager in the last four years of his life, said that he knew who Murray was before Jackson’s death.

“Mr. Brown may have been sneaking around behind my back with this doctor,” Bobbit said, but he added that he never saw Brown use drugs.

Murray has been under intense scrutiny since Jackson died June 25 of cardiac arrest and investigators removed drugs from the singer’s Bel Air estate. (ANI)

More at : MJ’s doc also catered to drug-addled James Brown’s needs http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/ent ... z0i53XGMMF
Here is what i found about Brown's doctor and the drugs he used
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 13, 2010, 01:03:27 PM
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Now I'm just gonna tell the story looking from a different perspective.
Let's PRETEND this is NOT a HOAX
Because I just don't understand why MJ hired doc Murray so let's say:
What if James Brown had a drug addiction and he has told MJ about doc Murray.  Like if he ever needed something like that(drugs) this guy would deliver everything he asked for. If you know what I'm trying to say.
Let's say maybe he had to do the concerts for financial reasons. Remember they were about to do an auction on his personal stuff. Maybe he found it hard to sell all his personal belongings and Dr Tohme Tohme came up with doing some concerts instead. So maybe he just had no other option then doing these concerts.
And maybe the stress got to him and therefore he needed things to relax and sleep. Maybe that's how he ended up with doc Murray.
Now what may have happened on June 25th? So he couldn't sleep and Murray gave him something, and Murray left the room for some time...maybe MJ woke up again and Murray wasn't there, so if it was with IV and you just have to push to get a dose, maybe MJ pushed again and therefore accidentilly overdosing himself. Remember Murray saying he didn't give him anything that could have killed him.
I'm not defending doc Murray here but if this is not a hoax then this is maybe what could have happened?
I think we should investigate all sides of the story but of course I also hope it's all just a hoax.
I just don't understand what he was doing with doc Murray knowing what had happened to James Brown.
So please don't be mad after reading this. I still 100% believe in the hoax.
There was no way Michael could have done it himself: this is what the coroner stated, and therefore it was ruled a homocide. There was no dosage pump found.
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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 14, 2010, 06:10:23 AM
Thank you guys for this thread. I think we should pay attention to this MJ's interview for Ebony. That explains a lot more than all the IV pumps... LOL

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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

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VeryLittleSusie  you can count me in    :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I`ll take my bottle of Budweiser `cause I think I need to stay there a little longer  :lol:

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Re: Very strange but could be a coincedence..

  • on: March 14, 2010, 05:16:34 PM
This is very strange, indeed. :shock:
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