[allforlove]

Whatever he does, however he does it, it will be completely untouchable - I think we will just *know* it's him. I honestly think it was Michael at the 02. I can see where the doubt came from, and I've doubted it myself too. But I think he was just nervous/excited about this whole thing.
Anyway - this is the type of thing he wouldn't let anyone do for him, IMO. I mean come on, it's something that has never been done before, something that will go down in history, something that is precious to him... he wouldn't have someone else do it for him. Of course I can't say that for sure it's just my opinion.. I don't think it would make sense any other way.

Ahh you just got the words that I was going to write. I do know that the 02 guy was Michael himself. Nobody could have a smile like his and he has very unique physical features that I would never ever confuse him with someone else. It doesn't matter how much that person looks like him, I'll know if it's Michael or not. And the family will also confirm that he is alive. So we will definitely know. I just can not wait for that day to come. I missed him so so much and I just want to see him healthy and happy with his kids.

Where did all the doubt go? Only a few weeks ago we wouldn't believe the man at O2 was Michael. Pfft.. Guess I'm in with you guys now then. And I have to say he really looks like Michael, when we got the user-uploaded version of it (the one where you can see him from the side). Okay, okay.. The man at O2 was Michael Jackson, for real. Any proof he wasn't? Lightning can mess some stuff up, and aging makes people look different.. He wanted to look different and strong in his comeback. He was succesful.

When he comes back.. I'd like to see him the normal way. And by normal, I mean.. no orange pants! And not the style he used at O2.

Well,I still have doubts it was Michael at the O2.I still stand by my opinion that it was an impersonator.Michael was there, but behind the curtain.Of course I can be wrong, with Michael you just never know. ;)

[maninthemoon]

Whatever he does, however he does it, it will be completely untouchable - I think we will just *know* it's him. I honestly think it was Michael at the 02. I can see where the doubt came from, and I've doubted it myself too. But I think he was just nervous/excited about this whole thing.
Anyway - this is the type of thing he wouldn't let anyone do for him, IMO. I mean come on, it's something that has never been done before, something that will go down in history, something that is precious to him... he wouldn't have someone else do it for him. Of course I can't say that for sure it's just my opinion.. I don't think it would make sense any other way.

Ahh you just got the words that I was going to write. I do know that the 02 guy was Michael himself. Nobody could have a smile like his and he has very unique physical features that I would never ever confuse him with someone else. It doesn't matter how much that person looks like him, I'll know if it's Michael or not. And the family will also confirm that he is alive. So we will definitely know. I just can not wait for that day to come. I missed him so so much and I just want to see him healthy and happy with his kids.

Where did all the doubt go? Only a few weeks ago we wouldn't believe the man at O2 was Michael. Pfft.. Guess I'm in with you guys now then. And I have to say he really looks like Michael, when we got the user-uploaded version of it (the one where you can see him from the side). Okay, okay.. The man at O2 was Michael Jackson, for real. Any proof he wasn't? Lightning can mess some stuff up, and aging makes people look different.. He wanted to look different and strong in his comeback. He was succesful.

When he comes back.. I'd like to see him the normal way. And by normal, I mean.. no orange pants! And not the style he used at O2.

Well,I still have doubts it was Michael at the O2.I still stand by my opinion that it was an impersonator.Michael was there, but behind the curtain.Of course I can be wrong, with Michael you just never know. ;)

I have to admit the way he went fist pumping and saying "this is it" wasn't very much like Michael. His nose and mouth were also different. But his voice and smile were the same. Confusing..?

[Datroot]

02 MJ looked totally different to TII MJ - In the space of 3 months, his features completely changed.

[Its her]

 :lol: Will people know MJ when he comes back?  Many don't even know him right now! Many people here, have photos in their posts which are not MJ.

There is Michael Jackson and then there is O2 guy, and all the others.



@Angranity:

When he comes back.. I'd like to see him the normal way. And by normal, I mean.. no orange pants! And not the style he used at O2.

Me too. It has been soooooooo long since I saw him in jeans, I totally forgot about it.

It doesn't have to be jeans, though. I bet the real MJ really dresses very dapper in business casual, and I hope he comes out that way. And, you know, it worked on the Sistine Chapel, and it works in flowers and pond fish, but, I HATE orange, burnt or otherwise,  and rust, tangerine, & peach---all those icky colors, especially in adult mens pants! IMHO, those are clown colors. Good thing it wasn't up to me. Orange would be banished from the Kingdom!  :?  

I liked the dress military "outfits" and all the clothes he wore publicly (ON stage, IN character, in film) over the years, but I admit I am sick of hearing cracks about his "band uniforms".  :x People are SOOOOO jealous of him. :evil:
 
I like to think he dressed like a "toy soldier", and it was a tip (for posterity looking back or whatever) that these were times, at least, earlier, when he WAS IN CHARACTER, as " :o Michael Jackson :o " , dreamy boy toy of 3 billion guuuurls...I don't mean that in any derogatory way; his persona's likeness was just in every girl's room and "collection" of cuddly things to love. He was a male doll dressed like a hero; a soldier boy. And he knew exactly what he was doing, sowing (AND sewing) himself into hearts.

That uniform he wore to the (forgive me, I don't recall the official title, :oops:   ) Black Film Awards program, was hotter than hell, and so was he. He is different when he's with dear friends, and not performing.

But, one can't play soldier or anyone else forever. Time to be his own Bad self. :)

I'll know him, I think :) :lol:   :?

Mannerisms don't change. The walk. The same things which differentiate him from his doubles, NOW. A co-worker of mine once told me there was a girl downstairs in our building who, when she walks, swings her arms, uncannily, JUST LIKE ME, (it sounded creepy :o :| I DON'T swing anything! :lol: and she took me down and showed me this gal. Well, it was my actual sister, so we had a laugh, as everyone was introduced. I told you that to say this: Perhaps the only way MJ could fool me is, if he comes back as TWINS.  Yet, even then, I have a trick or two up my sleeve.... ;)

[MJhasSpoken]

If he comes back as TWINS.  Yet, even then, I have a trick or two up my sleeve.... ;)

I think he will be still playing the hoax game when he comes back...as in is it MJ or not.

So care to share your tricks.  :P

[voiceforthesilent]

02 MJ looked totally different to TII MJ - In the space of 3 months, his features completely changed.

I don't want to say I could be fooled but I honestly don't know. I don't believe 02 MJ was the real MJ. I believe he was there and he was photographed, for sure. I've seen pictures where it's him. He just wasn't the person on the stage giving the announcement. That's my belief.

Over the years I've seen several pictures that have been passed off in the media as well as on the Intranet as being MJ but the minute I looked at it I knew it wasn't him. There have also been photog's taking pictures and videos of who they thought was MJ (and crowds going wild) yet when I looked at the video I knew in my heart that it wasn't MJ. That was coming from me, a casual observer (at the time). His spirit is so special that it sets him apart from everyone else. It's not just about the looks but the spirit of the man. And I think that is how I believe I will know the difference when even looks may fail. Don't get me wrong though - his looks alone have not been completely imitated either by anyone else. He is truly one-of-a-kind.

Blessings

[Its her]

If he comes back as TWINS.  Yet, even then, I have a trick or two up my sleeve.... ;)

I think he will be still playing the hoax game when he comes back...as in is it MJ or not.

So care to share your tricks.  :P

You may be right! I can see him prolonging the suspense of the Game.

Again, you are very sly, with the juicy questions. 8-)  :lol:  But if I share MY tricks, HE could become wise to them, and counter my tricks with more of his. ;) Right now, I think he is unaware of this, amazingly. But as he is a Master at illusion, and more clever than I, I am keeping these cards close to my vest, and my lips are sealed!   :|  

(These are the only tricks I got, right now. Working on more, though. :idea:  :P )

Seriously? (not giving up anything ;) ) I think we will know him  :D INSTANTLY. And if there are twins, playing Michael Jackson, we have seen BOTH of them ALL along, being him.

But the press, and the rest of the world?  His "resurrection" will gain as much denial as Jesus Christ's did and does to this day... :roll: We are not called BeLIEvers for nuttin'. :)

[eternalflame]

Orange would be banished from the Kingdom!   :?   

Well, be happy then you are no Dutch! :lol:

Hoj Oranjes!  :D :D

The question was: will we believe it´s him.
I think, lots of people will believe, but only a few will know from the first moment.
I have the fear that some nice day any freak will appear and fool people at least for a while.
You know how freaky people can become for a short moment of fame.
Think of all the youtube stuff about sightings after 2009...

[MJhasSpoken]

If he comes back as TWINS.  Yet, even then, I have a trick or two up my sleeve.... ;)

I think he will be still playing the hoax game when he comes back...as in is it MJ or not.

So care to share your tricks.  :P

Again, you are very sly, with the juicy questions. 8-)  :lol:  



 

Well thank you...I will take that as a compliment...I think  :lol:
Now here is a compliment for you  :lol: wait for it...
...ok here it is...I have noticed you calculate (not in terms of maths but plans) and you always seem to have something 'up your sleeve' as you say  :lol:  just in case...you think ahead, which I like so maybe I should take a page out of your book  ;)

[allforlove]

That uniform he wore to the (forgive me, I don't recall the official title,  ) Black Film Awards program, was hotter than hell, and so was he

I have no idea which one you mean, sorry. What year are you talking about? Could you tell me with whom he went?
I share your opinion about O2 guy and orange guy. I'm sorry to say but I find that orange pants horrible.

[MJhasSpoken]

That uniform he wore to the (forgive me, I don't recall the official title,  ) Black Film Awards program, was hotter than hell, and so was he

I have no idea which one you mean, sorry. What year are you talking about? Could you tell me with whom he went?
I share your opinion about O2 guy and orange guy. I'm sorry to say but I find that orange pants horrible.

Was it the Black Gold Awards?

[Its her]

If he comes back as TWINS.  Yet, even then, I have a trick or two up my sleeve.... ;)

I think he will be still playing the hoax game when he comes back...as in is it MJ or not.

So care to share your tricks.  :P

Again, you are very sly, with the juicy questions. 8-)  :lol:  

 

Well thank you...I will take that as a compliment...I think  :lol:
Now here is a compliment for you  :lol: wait for it...
...ok here it is...I have noticed you calculate (not in terms of maths but plans) and you always seem to have something 'up your sleeve' as you say  :lol:  just in case...you think ahead, which I like so maybe I should take a page out of your book  ;)

Yes, it was a compliment. You keep me on my toes, asking questions I would just LOVE to guurl-spill the answers to, but, then I catch myself, in time.  :lol: I probably don't know a gosh-dernt thing, so no sense parading my ignorance on purpose...

Thank You for the nice compliment, too. :D  I don't know that you could stand pages out of my book---a series of self drawn maps and fingerpaintings! :P Thinking is like playing the lottery in the Twilight Zone, but once in a while I am right  :D  I do not know if MJ's centrifugal force Ride has loosened a screw, or if it only revealed that I had one or two, already!!! :P  :?

It is funny that you picked that plan part up. And, thank you, you didn't use the word "neurotic"! :D  You are good! Why haven't YOU solved this hoax and its mysteries, yet?? :lol: (People do tell me my motto should be "always prepared", but it is just out of desperation & forced self-reliance. :geek:  :!: )

MJ, for all his logical planning, has a very ingrained emotional but not sentimental per se, investment in history (and legacy), and I think finding those significant anchoring threads is more FUN, and I leave the substantiating numeric calulations to the brainiacs who still like to do that stuff. I burned my self out doing math for years. A tad off topic, but, whatever. Not really!  Every little thing I observe and learn about MJ will help me to recognize the REAL Thing.

I never thought of it until someone here said it, but, it COULD happen that some goofball opportunist could read here and try to fake a BAM just using the dates WE all numerologically come up with, to make sport of us...  Tying the numbers to certain historically meaningful (to MJ!!) events wouldn't occur to that one, but it will protect US from being fooled by a surface reader, here. I will believe it is him, when I know it is. :geek:

BTW! While I got your ear, here, the website you shared with me on another thread has some other good numerological stuff on it...that ;) (un-) "godlikeproductions" one. 2012 & 777 stuff. I don't know whether to trust it or not. The site says to NOT :!:  :lol:

 

[Its her]

That uniform he wore to the (forgive me, I don't recall the official title,  ) Black Film Awards program, was hotter than hell, and so was he

I have no idea which one you mean, sorry. What year are you talking about? Could you tell me with whom he went?
I share your opinion about O2 guy and orange guy. I'm sorry to say but I find that orange pants horrible.

Was it the Black Gold Awards?

I found it! It was 1994 NAACP Image Awards. I was stuck on Debbie Allen winning an award for her film, and distracted by her sweetness to stop, first, and tell MJ in front of everyone in the world, that God goes with him and so does everyone in the house, love and support him!!  

I think MJ went stag...IDK. He couldda been with LMP then, though. I didn't see anyone but all those folks tickled out of their minds  :D over MJ in person with them!! I hope this works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzFUT17 ... re=related

[MJhasSpoken]

If he comes back as TWINS.  Yet, even then, I have a trick or two up my sleeve.... ;)

I think he will be still playing the hoax game when he comes back...as in is it MJ or not.

So care to share your tricks.  :P

Again, you are very sly, with the juicy questions. 8-)  :lol:  

 

Well thank you...I will take that as a compliment...I think  :lol:
Now here is a compliment for you  :lol: wait for it...
...ok here it is...I have noticed you calculate (not in terms of maths but plans) and you always seem to have something 'up your sleeve' as you say  :lol:  just in case...you think ahead, which I like so maybe I should take a page out of your book  ;)

Yes, it was a compliment. You keep me on my toes, asking questions I would just LOVE to guurl-spill the answers to, but, then I catch myself, in time.  :lol: I probably don't know a gosh-dernt thing, so no sense parading my ignorance on purpose...

Thank You for the nice compliment, too. :D  I don't know that you could stand pages out of my book---a series of self drawn maps and fingerpaintings! :P Thinking is like playing the lottery in the Twilight Zone, but once in a while I am right  :D  I do not know if MJ's centrifugal force Ride has loosened a screw, or if it only revealed that I had one or two, already!!! :P  :?

It is funny that you picked that plan part up. And, thank you, you didn't use the word "neurotic"! :D  You are good!Why haven't YOU solved this hoax and its mysteries, yet?? :lol: (People do tell me my motto should be "always prepared", but it is just out of desperation & forced self-reliance. :geek:  :!: )

MJ, for all his logical planning, has a very ingrained emotional but not sentimental per se, investment in history (and legacy), and I think finding those significant anchoring threads is more FUN, and I leave the substantiating numeric calulations to the brainiacs who still like to do that stuff. I burned my self out doing math for years. A tad off topic, but, whatever. Not really!  Every little thing I observe and learn about MJ will help me to recognize the REAL Thing.

I never thought of it until someone here said it, but, it COULD happen that some goofball opportunist could read here and try to fake a BAM just using the dates WE all numerologically come up with, to make sport of us...  Tying the numbers to certain historically meaningful (to MJ!!) events wouldn't occur to that one, but it will protect US from being fooled by a surface reader, here. I will believe it is him, when I know it is. :geek:

BTW! While I got your ear, here, the website you shared with me on another thread has some other good numerological stuff on it...that ;) (un-) "godlikeproductions" one. 2012 & 777 stuff. I don't know whether to trust it or not. The site says to NOT :!:  :lol:

 

Maybe I have solved it already  ;)  and I'd LOVE to spill some of the answers but...you know how these things work  :lol:
Thanks...I will check out that website again...some of the stuff is pretty good with all that numerology.

[MJhasSpoken]

That uniform he wore to the (forgive me, I don't recall the official title,  ) Black Film Awards program, was hotter than hell, and so was he

I have no idea which one you mean, sorry. What year are you talking about? Could you tell me with whom he went?
I share your opinion about O2 guy and orange guy. I'm sorry to say but I find that orange pants horrible.

Was it the Black Gold Awards?

I found it! It was 1994 NAACP Image Awards. I was stuck on Debbie Allen winning an award for her film, and distracted by her sweetness to stop, first, and tell MJ in front of everyone in the world, that God goes with him and so does everyone in the house, love and support him!! 

I think MJ went stag...IDK. He couldda been with LMP then, though. I didn't see anyone but all those folks tickled out of their minds  :D over MJ in person with them!! I hope this works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzFUT17 ... re=related

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzFUT17P8o&feature=related[/youtube]


Love the vid...especially the guy @0:34 which looks like the guy from Cool Running...the one that says 'are you dead man'   :lol:

[allforlove]

That uniform he wore to the (forgive me, I don't recall the official title,  ) Black Film Awards program, was hotter than hell, and so was he

I have no idea which one you mean, sorry. What year are you talking about? Could you tell me with whom he went?
I share your opinion about O2 guy and orange guy. I'm sorry to say but I find that orange pants horrible.

Was it the Black Gold Awards?

I found it! It was 1994 NAACP Image Awards. I was stuck on Debbie Allen winning an award for her film, and distracted by her sweetness to stop, first, and tell MJ in front of everyone in the world, that God goes with him and so does everyone in the house, love and support him!!  

I think MJ went stag...IDK. He couldda been with LMP then, though. I didn't see anyone but all those folks tickled out of their minds  :D over MJ in person with them!! I hope this works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzFUT17 ... re=related

Thank you for the vid.You are right,Michael looked stunning there.I loved how they all were shouting for him, Michael must have felt the appreciation and support. :P

[hesouttamylife]

We're ALL on your side MICHAEL!!!!  Always.

[Its her]

Orange would be banished from the Kingdom!   :?   

Well, be happy then you are no Dutch! :lol:

Hoj Oranjes!  :D :D

The question was: will we believe it´s him.
I think, lots of people will believe, but only a few will know from the first moment.
I have the fear that some nice day any freak will appear and fool people at least for a while.
You know how freaky people can become for a short moment of fame.
Think of all the youtube stuff about sightings after 2009...

Oh-oh.  :oops:  Is orange a national color or something there? (now I look ignorant :roll: ) Some day I am going to visit the Netherlands, and I need to know these things!   Thank you!

Your post was the one I read about "freaks" trying to fool us. Good catch! I never thought of it. Hey, forewarned is forearmed.  8-) We will just have to be a bunch of eagle-eyed foxes and (sweetly, sweetly) put every "poser" to a rigorous test!

The REAL MJ won't mind. That Gamester may, perhaps, even try to be the FIRST fake BAMmer, as his own fake double, Barry  :lol: Shaw! :!:     :?   :o   :lol: . IN FACT, I think we are being "P.T.Barnumed", :?   set up, for July, but that's another topic.  :lol: MJ is so clever, it would be scary, if it wasn't all for fun.

HE needs some serious TICKLING, real bad.  :D    

[Its her]

Love the vid...especially the guy @0:34 which looks like the guy from Cool Running...the one that says 'are you dead man'  :lol:

Hey, thank you for putting that video up for us! I didn't know how to do that. :|

I can't believe I haven't seen Cool Runnings. It looks hysterical. I'm renting it!

Oh, yeah: touche'. I just bet you DO have some golden keys to this Hoax up your sleeves. If MJ doesn't come back by the "end of the world" next year, maybe we can trade some information. :geek:

 :lol:  :lol:  

[MJhasSpoken]

Love the vid...especially the guy @0:34 which looks like the guy from Cool Running...the one that says 'are you dead man'  :lol:

Hey, thank you for putting that video up for us! I didn't know how to do that. :|

I can't believe I haven't seen Cool Runnings. It looks hysterical. I'm renting it!

Oh, yeah: touche'. I just bet you DO have some golden keys to this Hoax up your sleeves. If MJ doesn't come back by the "end of the world" next year, maybe we can trade some information. :geek:

 :lol:  :lol:  

no worries...at first I thought it was hard but all you have to do is press the youtube thingy  :arrow:  [YouTube][/YouTube]and put the youtube link in between and then it comes up.

Agreed, but lets hope it doesn't have to come to 2012...yes Cool Runnings is funny, I loved it.

[eternalflame]

Orange would be banished from the Kingdom!   :?   

Well, be happy then you are no Dutch! :lol:

Hoj Oranjes!  :D :D

Oh-oh.  :oops:  Is orange a national color or something there? (now I look ignorant :roll: ) Some day I am going to visit the Netherlands, and I need to know these things!   Thank you!   

There was a Dutch king a few Centuries ago, William of Orange, and the national color is devoted to him.
Never mind it´s her, I only know about these things because I had a Dutch boyfriend once!  :D :D

Well, so far about history lessons off topic...  :geek:

[allforlove]

Orange would be banished from the Kingdom!  <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> 

Well, be happy then you are no Dutch! :lol:

Hoj Oranjes! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

Oh-oh.  :oops:  Is orange a national color or something there? (now I look ignorant <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ) Some day I am going to visit the Netherlands, and I need to know these things!   Thank you!   

There was a Dutch king a few Centuries ago, William of Orange, and the national color is devoted to him.
Never mind it´s her, I only know about these things because I had a Dutch boyfriend once! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

Well, so far about history lessons off topic... <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->

Yes, you explained it well. At Queensday  we have many orange decoration and orange delicacies.And when The Netherlands play soccer abroad they wear an orange outfit most of the time, just like may Dutch supporters.

[Its her]

Love the vid...especially the guy @0:34 which looks like the guy from Cool Running...the one that says 'are you dead man'  :lol:

Hey, thank you for putting that video up for us! I didn't know how to do that. :|

I can't believe I haven't seen Cool Runnings. It looks hysterical. I'm renting it!

Oh, yeah: touche'. I just bet you DO have some golden keys to this Hoax up your sleeves. If MJ doesn't come back by the "end of the world" next year, maybe we can trade some information. :geek:

 :lol:  :lol:  

no worries...at first I thought it was hard but all you have to do is press the youtube thingy  :arrow:  [YouTube][/YouTube]and put the youtube link in between and then it comes up.

Agreed, but lets hope it doesn't have to come to 2012...yes Cool Runnings is funny, I loved it.

Say, thank you for the YouTube tips; I'll use them next time. BTW Cool Runnings is on hold temporarily. Someone stole it from the vid store.  :o  :x  It MUST be GOOD! I have a few more places to check. :geek:

[heartphantom]

Yes, we will. The Jacksons are excentric but not cruel. They will not show us an imposter saying "here's Michael" .

[Its her]

Orange would be banished from the Kingdom!  <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> 

Well, be happy then you are no Dutch! :lol:

Hoj Oranjes! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

Oh-oh.  :oops:  Is orange a national color or something there? (now I look ignorant <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ) Some day I am going to visit the Netherlands, and I need to know these things!   Thank you!   

There was a Dutch king a few Centuries ago, William of Orange, and the national color is devoted to him.
Never mind it´s her, I only know about these things because I had a Dutch boyfriend once! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

Well, so far about history lessons off topic... <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->

Yes, you explained it well. At Queensday  we have many orange decoration and orange delicacies.And when The Netherlands play soccer abroad they wear an orange outfit most of the time, just like may Dutch supporters.

Thanks, Guys! I KNOW  <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> Wm. of Orange, from study a million years ago! I don't remember the "Orange"  being the color, but leave it to Time and people to make a "big color orange production" out of it. Thank you so much. I love this stuff! It's not really off topic; someone brought up MJ's ORANGE pants...it is chain referencing. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->