Navi says O2 was Michael and some doubles used in TII

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Why did everyone pass up the new video by pedleylife1

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Hmmmm things that stuck out: "Michael murdered himself" and "it's like a movie". Getting closer...
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Ive always been one hundred percent convinced that the O2 Michael is the REAL Michael.

Navi seems nice and sensible..  he says Michael was focused and knew about the 50 shows.  That makes sense.. Michael wasnt stupid and weak that they portray him as.
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ok we need Navi on here to point out who is mike and who isnt in the movie..LOL
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ok we need Navi on here to point out who is mike and who isnt in the movie..LOL

Guys I can't promise anything BUT there's a chance I MIGHT be able to help with this.  My best mate (a life-long MJ fan but not a beLIEver) works for an entertainment management company here in the UK and she speaks to Navi regularly as she organises a lot of his appearances.  He even gave her a DVD of his performance at Michael's 40th birthday party - Michael personally invited him.  He visited Michael often at Neverland and was also close to Michael and his family during the 2005 trial.

Sorry, I digress - anyway my mate has asked Navi if he can sort out a couple of tickets for us both for one of his performances when he is in our area of the UK and he promised he will and we will also get to meet him afterwards.  Now obviously I can't just jump straight in there and ask him "Hey Navi, so who were the doubles in TII and which one was Michael!!?"  However, if I get the opportunity, then I can always try some diplomatic 'digging'.  I'd have to be careful though as my mate doesn't know I'm a believer so I would have to raise the topic objectively.

I'll let you know if the tickets come to fruition.  ;)
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ok we need Navi on here to point out who is mike and who isnt in the movie..LOL

Guys I can't promise anything BUT there's a chance I MIGHT be able to help with this.  My best mate (a life-long MJ fan but not a beLIEver) works for an entertainment management company here in the UK and she speaks to Navi regularly as she organises a lot of his appearances.  He even gave her a DVD of his performance at Michael's 40th birthday party - Michael personally invited him.  He visited Michael often at Neverland and was also close to Michael and his family during the 2005 trial.

Sorry, I digress - anyway my mate has asked Navi if he can sort out a couple of tickets for us both for one of his performances when he is in our area of the UK and he promised he will and we will also get to meet him afterwards.  Now obviously I can't just jump straight in there and ask him "Hey Navi, so who were the doubles in TII and which one was Michael!!?"  However, if I get the opportunity, then I can always try some diplomatic 'digging'.  I'd have to be careful though as my mate doesn't know I'm a believer so I would have to raise the topic objectively.



I'll let you know if the tickets come to fruition.  ;)
If u do ask Navi, Please Film or record audio :)
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That one guy just said it all: It's like a movie, right   :mrgreen:
and Navi saying: In the world of Michael Jackson, I'll just see it happen, I think I'm going beyond expected  :mrgreen:
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I sent Navi an email, and this was his response:

Hi

I was asked to do the visuals for the concert. Like long shots etc.

The movie is 100%all Michael

God bless
Navi :-)
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i am not sure i understand this? what does it mean long shots for a concert? i think i can imagine long shots for a movie, but for live concert :?
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I asked him to clarify what he meant and this was his response:

Like I said michael did everything himself. Always did, always would have.

Just for settings for the production.
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I asked him to clarify what he meant and this was his response:

Like I said michael did everything himself. Always did, always would have.

Just for settings for the production.
ok, thank you :)
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SOUNDS LIKE A MOVIE...
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i am not sure i understand this? what does it mean long shots for a concert? i think i can imagine long shots for a movie, but for live concert :?


They were planning to use him for the Ending to Dirty Diana, then mike would appear straigh after into Beat It.
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Just like the guy they used for the ending of thriller - so that is the double (I forget his name) who was supposed to tour with Michael.

Now why would Navi contradict himself. He said he knows Michael's pointing and everything and there was a double used (on video) and here in the email, he says it is 100%

Can someone ask Navi is he thinks Michael is alive?
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I definetly think we should follow this, I mean, we have somebody who, somehow, was involved, the contradiction thing is somethig to be investigated.
did someone tell him to not say anything about any doubles again???
could be.
but we beLIEvers have been thinking for a long while this is it was not even close to be a concert reherseal, then why does he mention his role in eventual concerts?.
we cant let this go, its time to prove TII was 100% a movie, this may be a good lead.

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I think E'Casanova looks facially way more like Mike than Navi. But who is THIS???
http://http://www.celebrityimpersonators.com/cp/jackson_3.html
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I think E'Casanova looks facially way more like Mike than Navi. But who is THIS???
http://http://www.celebrityimpersonators.com/cp/jackson_3.html
William Hall ? :lol:
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Thanks for this post.  I'm not quite convinced the guy in the orange pants in TII is MJ.  I still think he is not as tall and has more muscle tone on his legs.  He is also the one with the sunglasses that don't fit.  I've watched the movie that many times, and even I think this double does not dance like MJ.  I now know, that Kenny used a double to fill in for the dancers when MJ couldn't be there, but why kshow this in the film??  I still have my doubts about that one.  Anyway, good find.  Did you watch the other videos on that link???  
A direct question to NAVI would be good.  Or perhaps a suggestive question.."Have you heard that MJ is still alive?"  Cheers to all from Downunder xox
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let' say this...if in TII it has been used a double,I would say that is the best impersonator I have ever seen!! also fingernails same as Michael!Navi and E'casanova are definetlyt not Michael,but IF orange pant man was not Michael, he would fool anyone.
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Quote from: "eviltwin"
I think E'Casanova looks facially way more like Mike than Navi. But who is THIS???
http://http://www.celebrityimpersonators.com/cp/jackson_3.html

I think maybe it's Edward Moss??

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Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
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I think E'Casanova looks facially way more like Mike than Navi. But who is THIS???
http://http://www.celebrityimpersonators.com/cp/jackson_3.html

I think maybe it's Edward Moss??



I have seen this guy in other pictures and other poses...not so similar. Something in the eye is good,but mouth completely different
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ok we need Navi on here to point out who is mike and who isnt in the movie..LOL

Guys I can't promise anything BUT there's a chance I MIGHT be able to help with this.  My best mate (a life-long MJ fan but not a beLIEver) works for an entertainment management company here in the UK and she speaks to Navi regularly as she organises a lot of his appearances.  He even gave her a DVD of his performance at Michael's 40th birthday party - Michael personally invited him.  He visited Michael often at Neverland and was also close to Michael and his family during the 2005 trial.

Sorry, I digress - anyway my mate has asked Navi if he can sort out a couple of tickets for us both for one of his performances when he is in our area of the UK and he promised he will and we will also get to meet him afterwards.  Now obviously I can't just jump straight in there and ask him "Hey Navi, so who were the doubles in TII and which one was Michael!!?"  However, if I get the opportunity, then I can always try some diplomatic 'digging'.  I'd have to be careful though as my mate doesn't know I'm a believer so I would have to raise the topic objectively.

I'll let you know if the tickets come to fruition.  ;)

wouldnt it be better to get your friend to do the talking - they already have a connection and communicate regularly -  he will not confide in a stranger - would you? Navi is media aware and would be very guarded about what he actually says - dont you think.

be careful about your desire and curosity and how you will appear - get your friend to do the digging -
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This is so confusing  :?

I watched the O2 so many times and I still can't tell if it's Michael or not.
Most of the time I don't think it's Michael.
But when he says "I love you from the bottom of my heart" seems like it's Michael.

I just don't know  :?

In TII ... I still don't know if the orange pants guy is Mike or not, but I think it's him, but I'm not sure  :?
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The funny thing is that Navi looks nothing like Michael. I've never seen any impersonator who looked a tad like Michael.
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navi was asked wot wud u do if michael was found guilty he said my career would be over not hes NOT GUILTY i hate him he wouldnt have a pic with me he looks nothing like michael fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
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navi was asked wot wud u do if michael was found guilty he said my career would be over not hes NOT GUILTY i hate him he wouldnt have a pic with me he looks nothing like michael fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

regarding the 2005 trial?
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Navi said O2 was Michael?  :lol:
Maybe he knows nothing. :roll:
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yeah at the trial and he was asked to be in film but refused if he agreed he would have been in on hoax unless michael has let him in on it :x
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Of course O2 was MJ you'd have to be completely insane/delusional to not see that it's him. He's even got the swagger walk going from the car to the stage. If that's the best evidence people can keep beating on that he wasn't even at O2 this entire hoax theory is doomed.
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Oh my lord...I am insane because I have my own opinion?!
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Oh my lord...I am insane because I have my own opinion?!
Or delusional :p
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WHEN ISAW TII IFELT THAT THEY USED DOUBLES IN IT. EVEN IAM SUSPICIOUS ABOUT ORANGE PANT GUY. JOE HAS STATED SOMEWHERE THAT THEY HAVE USED DOUBLES.
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we all insane dudes! :lol:
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Oh my lord...I am insane because I have my own opinion?!
Or delusional :p


Everyone has their own opinion. If certain threads or topics bother you, then move on. Dont read it. Please dont start calling members delusional because they believe in something you dont. Thats not fair.
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I have compared alot of pics of O2 Mike with other of Mike and there's just something with that O2 face that just doesn't add up.  I think the nose is different, the chin is bigger and the distance between the upper lip and nose is wider with O2 guy.
Mike's face is rounder and wider the O2 guy's face is smaller and also the smile is not the same.
But that's just my own opinion. Everyone may think of it what he wants about that.
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I have compared alot of pics of O2 Mike with other of Mike and there's just something with that O2 face that just doesn't add up.  I think the nose is different, the chin is bigger and the distance between the upper lip and nose is wider with O2 guy.
Mike's face is rounder and wider the O2 guy's face is smaller and also the smile is not the same.
But that's just my own opinion. Everyone may think of it what he wants about that.

I agree.

And thank you, Jacksonologist, you are really right.
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I have compared alot of pics of O2 Mike with other of Mike and there's just something with that O2 face that just doesn't add up.  I think the nose is different, the chin is bigger and the distance between the upper lip and nose is wider with O2 guy.
Mike's face is rounder and wider the O2 guy's face is smaller and also the smile is not the same.
But that's just my own opinion. Everyone may think of it what he wants about that.


hi..I 100% agree with you. I always thought there was something weird with the 02 guy. he looks about 15 years younger than the real Michael.. it looks like the guy got some prosthetic makeup to look like Michael but the face shape/structure was way off. And he was overdoing it with the odd manorisms and facial expressios towards the end when he spun around and raised his arm into the air and nodded his head diagnally. Very WEIRD and unlike Michael. :?
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Was watching tii and noticed in the beginning where Michael and orange pants were split and they were basically comparing dance moves like orange pants was so robotical and Michael was so fluid with orange pants it just looked so forced when he was dancing just imo what do you guys think
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Was watching tii and noticed in the beginning where Michael and orange pants were split and they were basically comparing dance moves like orange pants was so robotical and Michael was so fluid with orange pants it just looked so forced when he was dancing just imo what do you guys think
topic on this already:http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6185&hilit=+TII/
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The day Michael made his announcement... I just stared at the TV and said "What!! What this is Michael?  What has he done to himself now!  It was a strange feeling that day.  And I agree in the movie they showed the split screen for a reason I think...definitely different people there.  It was just too obvious.  So I agree with Navi w. doubles in movie... but I still cannot agree with O2.
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yeah at the trial and he was asked to be in film but refused if he agreed he would have been in on hoax unless michael has let him in on it :x

i know things can be taken out of context - but you would have thought compassion, he obviously didnt know much about mike of study him.
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navi was there at the 02 he was outside meeting and greeting i think, but he was not stage mike - because that was mike
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Tread lightly. Navi probably has confidentiality agreements that he must honor. Plus as someone mentioned already, he is aware and would know when he is being questioned about hush hush topics. Too bad your friend isn't a believer. She is Navi's friend and would be in a good position to get him to let his guard down and share some of the confidential stuff.

Are you sure that she isn't a believer? Afterall many of us keep this as a well-guarded secret. She might be one too.  :lol:

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ok we need Navi on here to point out who is mike and who isnt in the movie..LOL

Guys I can't promise anything BUT there's a chance I MIGHT be able to help with this.  My best mate (a life-long MJ fan but not a beLIEver) works for an entertainment management company here in the UK and she speaks to Navi regularly as she organises a lot of his appearances.  He even gave her a DVD of his performance at Michael's 40th birthday party - Michael personally invited him.  He visited Michael often at Neverland and was also close to Michael and his family during the 2005 trial.

Sorry, I digress - anyway my mate has asked Navi if he can sort out a couple of tickets for us both for one of his performances when he is in our area of the UK and he promised he will and we will also get to meet him afterwards.  Now obviously I can't just jump straight in there and ask him "Hey Navi, so who were the doubles in TII and which one was Michael!!?"  However, if I get the opportunity, then I can always try some diplomatic 'digging'.  I'd have to be careful though as my mate doesn't know I'm a believer so I would have to raise the topic objectively.

I'll let you know if the tickets come to fruition.  ;)
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The funny thing is that Navi looks nothing like Michael. I've never seen any impersonator who looked a tad like Michael.
i totally agree with you i believe that the TII movie is 100% Michael because i searched the internet for pics of impersonator & i didn't found anyone that looks like MJ & then i searched on youtube to see their performances & from the first second you know that it's not MJ we are fans & we know MJ for so long they can't fool us MJ is like a family number you recognize him at first second
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@girlsaturday

I know what you mean, it's my secret too :D
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Tread lightly. Navi probably has confidentiality agreements that he must honor. Plus as someone mentioned already, he is aware and would know when he is being questioned about hush hush topics. Too bad your friend isn't a believer. She is Navi's friend and would be in a good position to get him to let his guard down and share some of the confidential stuff.

Are you sure that she isn't a believer? Afterall many of us keep this as a well-guarded secret. She might be one too.  :lol:

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ok we need Navi on here to point out who is mike and who isnt in the movie..LOL

Guys I can't promise anything BUT there's a chance I MIGHT be able to help with this.  My best mate (a life-long MJ fan but not a beLIEver) works for an entertainment management company here in the UK and she speaks to Navi regularly as she organises a lot of his appearances.  He even gave her a DVD of his performance at Michael's 40th birthday party - Michael personally invited him.  He visited Michael often at Neverland and was also close to Michael and his family during the 2005 trial.

Sorry, I digress - anyway my mate has asked Navi if he can sort out a couple of tickets for us both for one of his performances when he is in our area of the UK and he promised he will and we will also get to meet him afterwards.  Now obviously I can't just jump straight in there and ask him "Hey Navi, so who were the doubles in TII and which one was Michael!!?"  However, if I get the opportunity, then I can always try some diplomatic 'digging'.  I'd have to be careful though as my mate doesn't know I'm a believer so I would have to raise the topic objectively.

I'll let you know if the tickets come to fruition.  ;)

My friend isn't a believer and yes, it's a shame as she would be the ideal person to just throw in an off-the-cuff question to Navi.  There's no way I could ask her to probe because she doesn't believe that Michael is still alive.  At the same time my friend doesn't know that I am a believer so I am thinking that it's probably best left alone.
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think that probably best
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Hell! It's so sad. If we don't get real proof he's alive I'll die. I'm living under pressure since June 25th and the hope is slipping away.
I'm so scared we are mislead by people who killed him and played with us over 8 months. :x
Gosh! Give us some new real clue. Or give us the truth right now! Right NOW!
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Can we go back to the topic???
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Navi doesn't have a damn job,he needs to lie to make some money.I have met Navi in person and he does not look like Michael in any way shape or form.He looks like a fake Michael wanna be.That was the real Michael at the o2 conference,it damn sure wasn't Navi.
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Did you ever stop to think , that maybe in MJs absence from the stage, he was making a clone of himself???  Someone who really wanted to look like him and was paid well enough????  Someone who was prepared to go under the knife for MJ?????  MJ maybe has a clone...of himself.  How could we prove any differently?????
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