Who is this guy?

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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 11, 2010, 11:55:43 AM
I really don't believe in this twin-theory...absolutely not! If this theory were true, I don't think they would show the black twin in the making of "in the closet" ....Nope, These are just Stand Ins for whatever...for scenes Michael didn't want to do or wasn't able to do
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 11, 2010, 12:09:46 PM
I read somewhere of a thought that this double could be a cousin that looks a lot like Michael that joined early on his success. On another note when you talked this twin theory again, and I watched the link of his performing the disappearing act, I was immediately reminded of the movie 2006 called, "The Prestige". I believe many of the movies coming out for at least 5 and longer have had Michael in mind or he has been actually influencing behind the scenes. In this movie there is the famous phrase of the magicians act which is he makes the bird disappear, creates distraction, and the most important part--makes the bird reappear. The story line is two magicians compete to be the best. One successfully seems to be able to transport his body to another part of the theatre instantly miraculously. The other magician tries to imitate this even to the extent of causing his look alike doubles to die. In the end of the movie we find that the first magician was actually a twin and thus had fooled the audience to believing it was the same person. Incredibly the one twin had one or two fingers cut off in an accident and so to look like his twin, the other had his same fingers amputated for their show career. Good movie to watch with lots of mystery and twists. Strong parallel to MJ.
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 11, 2010, 04:55:12 PM
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I read somewhere of a thought that this double could be a cousin that looks a lot like Michael that joined early on his success. On another note when you talked this twin theory again, and I watched the link of his performing the disappearing act, I was immediately reminded of the movie 2006 called, "The Prestige". I believe many of the movies coming out for at least 5 and longer have had Michael in mind or he has been actually influencing behind the scenes. In this movie there is the famous phrase of the magicians act which is he makes the bird disappear, creates distraction, and the most important part--makes the bird reappear. The story line is two magicians compete to be the best. One successfully seems to be able to transport his body to another part of the theatre instantly miraculously. The other magician tries to imitate this even to the extent of causing his look alike doubles to die. In the end of the movie we find that the first magician was actually a twin and thus had fooled the audience to believing it was the same person. Incredibly the one twin had one or two fingers cut off in an accident and so to look like his twin, the other had his same fingers amputated for their show career. Good movie to watch with lots of mystery and twists. Strong parallel to MJ.
The pristige  :o  :o  :o almost forgetten!!! more people should watch that movie.. really, specialy when I read ur post...
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 11, 2010, 05:23:46 PM
On every shooting of a movie, you have people paid to take the actors place while technicians are setting the lights, cameras, sound, etc. These"doubles" are hired because they have the same height, size, hair colour etc. When the set is being prepared, this "doubles" are working with cameramen, director etc .

This is an annoying job, can last for hours. This "doubles" stay the whole day on the set and are called every time they change the places of the cameras, shootings etc.

In the meantime, the real actors can rest. the real actors step in when everything is ready and the just have to say their lines.

I guess that s what this guy is....

nothing new there IMO

that s the way it goes on all shootings....
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 15, 2010, 06:58:43 PM
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Come on people this cannot be it. Michael always said he had a skin disorder, that his skin was changing from black to white and we almost all were witness of it. Vitiligo really exists this is not a joke and other black people suffer the same thing and became white as well. There is no twin. Michael please help !
Yeah, He had a skin disorder, but the twin theory can also explain why people said he bleached his skin.
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 :?  Some people said he "bleached" his skin because they like to invent and spread lies and rumors. Especially when Michael Jackson is concerned. I've never heard about a twin theory until I saw this thread and I am not convinced.
What do we make of all these people who suffer the same skin disorder ? They also have twin bros or sis around ? So why when it comes to Michael all theories are allowed even the most harebrained ? Why just not accept the simple fact that he has no white twin brother, that he became white due to Vitiligo and that he uses doubles/decoys/impersonators as some performers do and maybe him more and better than others.

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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 15, 2010, 08:46:26 PM
Please don't forget that this movie is made in the "desert" and that Michael can't stay in the sun light for too long. It's really normal to have doubles : they are just standing to be in the right place for the cameras, as said above. And I guess Michael just waited everything to be ready. Even if he wanted to, he could not stay for hours in such a sun  :|
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 17, 2010, 06:15:19 AM
Okay, this is my opinion ...
im not saying i believe in twin theory, but i think that's a possibility ..
my reasons
> photos compare
> MJ's hand
> MJ's nail
im not saying that's impossible, cause i never know what's the truth at Jackson Family right ?
if people "why they should hide him when michael really has a double ?"
i think maybe cause they must hide him ... ? idk .. just my opinion .. :|  :|  :|
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 17, 2010, 06:23:32 AM
no twin.

if you think this is true, then check the births register and produce the twins birth certificate

this would be way before the J5, so no need to hide it.
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 17, 2010, 06:28:18 AM
PLEASE MO or SOUZA lock this thread !
For the last time: MICHAEL HAS NO TWIN BROTHER  :!:  :evil:
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 17, 2010, 06:29:13 AM
@arabian nights

Did you read my PM??
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 17, 2010, 06:40:32 AM
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if you think this is true, then check the births register and produce the twins birth certificate

Birth certificates pertaining to any members of the Jackson family are SEALED.  We have said that numerous times already.

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PLEASE MO or SOUZA lock this thread !

I don't see any reason for locking this thread.  People are discussing something here, nothing more and nothing less.
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 17, 2010, 08:27:02 AM
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@arabian nights

Did you read my PM??

yes, but you dont have a pm - so cant reply
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 17, 2010, 08:28:34 AM
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if you think this is true, then check the births register and produce the twins birth certificate

Birth certificates pertaining to any members of the Jackson family are SEALED.  We have said that numerous times already.

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PLEASE MO or SOUZA lock this thread !

I don't see any reason for locking this thread.  People are discussing something here, nothing more and nothing less.

in the uk they are public documents but investigators can be cheaply employed to find this info out for those who are desparate to waste money.
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 12:21:53 AM
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I don't see why the parents would have hidden this supposed brother from the very start of their children's  carrier ? There were no reason to hide him. He isn't on any family picture.
If there was really a twin brother of Michael maybe we would have known the Jackson 6. Come on 2 Michael in the same band ! It would have brought TWICE MUCH OF SUCCESS!  :D
I disagree, and I agree with Frogh777 that Michael could very well have a twin, and here's one of the many reasons why: Think about the kind of man Joe Jackson was back in those days when he was pushing the J5 to be successful. If Michael had an identical twin that only the family knew about, Joe could use him whenever the other was sick or tired or unavailable for whatever reason, to me that sounds just like Joe..I think a thread should be made on this. I really don't see why people find this so hard to accept- I prefer the idea that it's an identical flesh-and-blood twin with nearly the same personality and beliefs that we've often seen as Michael Jackson a thousand times over some non-related double.. Besides, two Michaels are better than one..!
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 10:03:10 AM
PLZ watch this video. The first pic: U see MJ with a mole on his face. Try to follow the mole.
The mole disappeare on some pics. Dont tell me its the lighting or the angle of the camera. Try to focus on the position of the mole. There r some pictures that the mole is disappeared from his position.

[youtube:1gvermtf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuJ6EB2tyQU[/youtube:1gvermtf]
0:16 u see the scar!

BTW: Can someone post me pictures of Michael jackson with dogs. There r plenty pictures on the net that shows us he had and he loved dogs. They had a pet as a dog: can someone help me with this!
Ok, Lets start:

[attachment=0:1gvermtf]Knipsel.JPG[/attachment:1gvermtf]




Ok, this is weird. MJ is saying in th following video that hes afraid of dogs :shock: ????
Listen:@     1:58
[youtube:1gvermtf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOnAFOrGRyE&feature=related[/youtube:1gvermtf]
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 11:07:12 AM
That is a really interesting find...I dont know what to think of it. I mean at that time Michael already looked "white" so why would he need/want a black double?

As for Michael being a twin...RIDICULOUS!!!
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 06:09:01 PM
Why would katherine give birth to twins andthen decide to hide one when she doesnt even know her kids will get famous????? Especially when she never hide that Marlon had a twin brother who died...

That twin story is the most ridiculous story i heard so far

plus MJ had surgeries and his skin became lighter...would his twin go through the exact same process to look like him? and the surgeons would have made such a great work that in so many years nobody ever noticed there were 2 MJs? and none of their friends/entourage/ business partners/employees etc would ever notice a similar guy around? Dont u think someone would have leaked the story to the medias in the last 50 years? Just imagine the buddies of the jackson kids when they were normal pupils back in the 60's in Gary....if MJ had a twin, some of those would have talked bout him

And last thing: why would a twin be living in the shadow of another all his life? Being used as a stunt when the other one is tired? And keep on hiding when he "dies".....

For me the twin theory is like saying they had this guy living in a cave like an animal and took him out from time to time to get some surgery and do some shows...and then back in the cave b4 somebody notices there are 2 of them
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 06:40:00 PM
''The pristige'' is a good movie to watch if u want to understand the twin theory!
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 07:01:57 PM
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''The pristige'' is a good movie to watch if u want to understand the twin theory!

well sorry i watched it....and that s what it is: a movie!

but we r talking bout real life here: why would Katherine and Joe say "oh we had twins. Let s hide one and pretend there were no twins. Who knows, could be useful one day if our newborn becomes a superstar he would be grateful and able to use a double without anybody knowing bout it!"

yeah really.....sounds completely real... :roll:
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 07:04:24 PM
I think he could have had a double all his life, but not a twin... I read somewhere that the double was someone related to berry Gordy.. It could have been Motown's idea to do that since the start of the jackson5 days....
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 07:13:34 PM
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I think he could have had a double all his life, but not a twin... I read somewhere that the double was someone related to berry Gordy.. It could have been Motown's idea to do that since the start of the jackson5 days....

this would make more sense that the twin stuff...but how could they be sure, he d become the same height/shape as MJ when they grew up. also would he accept the surgery?

Anyway all doubles i saw, if Navi, casanova and so on u can tell in a second it s not MJ. Even if they are great performers, a real fan sees in the twinkle of an eye it s not mj. So i dont believe in doubles unless they just pass by and wear a surgical mask and glasses

i wish mj would have a perfect double...but so far, i never saw anybody able to look like him...
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 10:57:25 PM
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''The pristige'' is a good movie to watch if u want to understand the twin theory!

well sorry i watched it....and that s what it is: a movie!

but we r talking bout real life here: why would Katherine and Joe say "oh we had twins. Let s hide one and pretend there were no twins. Who knows, could be useful one day if our newborn becomes a superstar he would be grateful and able to use a double without anybody knowing bout it!"

yeah really.....sounds completely real... :roll:
But that's just it- they weren't famous back then, the whole world wasn't aware of their existence- but when it was, who's to say Joe and the biz people decided to present BOTH TWINS as Michael Jackson? It isn't it just one that we've had to have seen all these years, they could tag-team to create Michael Joe Jackso, King of Pop.
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 19, 2010, 05:01:44 PM
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''The pristige'' is a good movie to watch if u want to understand the twin theory!

well sorry i watched it....and that s what it is: a movie!

but we r talking bout real life here: why would Katherine and Joe say "oh we had twins. Let s hide one and pretend there were no twins. Who knows, could be useful one day if our newborn becomes a superstar he would be grateful and able to use a double without anybody knowing bout it!"

yeah really.....sounds completely real... :roll:
But that's just it- they weren't famous back then, the whole world wasn't aware of their existence- but when it was, who's to say Joe and the biz people decided to present BOTH TWINS as Michael Jackson? It isn't it just one that we've had to have seen all these years, they could tag-team to create Michael Joe Jackso, King of Pop.

well sorry but if they didnt hide it immediately but just when they got famous, how come nobody from Gary evver talked bout it in the media??? If i had sbdy in my class becoming the world biggest superstar and i knew there were 2 of them b4, i m sure i would talk bout it and sooner or later the story would come out

i still believe the twin theory is ridiculous

sorry
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 19, 2010, 10:00:22 PM
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''The pristige'' is a good movie to watch if u want to understand the twin theory!

well sorry i watched it....and that s what it is: a movie!

but we r talking bout real life here: why would Katherine and Joe say "oh we had twins. Let s hide one and pretend there were no twins. Who knows, could be useful one day if our newborn becomes a superstar he would be grateful and able to use a double without anybody knowing bout it!"

yeah really.....sounds completely real... :roll:
But that's just it- they weren't famous back then, the whole world wasn't aware of their existence- but when it was, who's to say Joe and the biz people decided to present BOTH TWINS as Michael Jackson? It isn't it just one that we've had to have seen all these years, they could tag-team to create Michael Joe Jackso, King of Pop.

well sorry but if they didnt hide it immediately but just when they got famous, how come nobody from Gary evver talked bout it in the media??? If i had sbdy in my class becoming the world biggest superstar and i knew there were 2 of them b4, i m sure i would talk bout it and sooner or later the story would come out

i still believe the twin theory is ridiculous

sorry
People from Gary don't really speak out on anything, anyway. Besides, the Jacksons could have told them to keep quiet.. You may think this theory is ridiculous, but that doesn't mean I have to, I think it's interesting and anything is possible you know- it doesn't HAVE to be, but it could be..
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Re: Who is this guy?

  • on: March 20, 2010, 12:03:38 AM
I have been a MIchael Jackson fan for 30 years now.  And there is
something going on with Michael and either a double or a twin.
I cannot post every link or even talk about the few people I have known to saw
or meet him, but ALL through the years and in many interviews, you will get
"I thought he was taller", or "He is taller than I expected", "He is shy and quiet",
"He is outgoing and friendly", "He is hyper-active", "He looks subdued or to be on drugs".

I know people present themselves differently in personality to different people they meet,
but Michael seems to CHANGE physically as well, with different features such as teeth,
mouth set, jaw line.
30 years means nothing, WHO is Michael Jackson?   :roll:
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