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What Lisa Burks Says
March 06, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
Hi guys, this thread was posted by DAISYDYVA at the "other" hoax forum and I found it so exciting so I am posting it for you all!  Daisydyva is awesome!  We should do what she did and just start emailing random people who are in someway connected with MJ.  Any way, here is her post.
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AS YOU MAY KNOW TMZ RECENTLY POSTED A STORY ON DEBBIE ROWE AND HER

TEARFUL VISIT TO FOREST LAWN.
IT WAS QUICKLY NOTICED THAT THEIR LINK FOR THE PHOTOS WAS LISTED

MICHAELJACKSONHOAXDEATH.NET.................WEIRD RIGHT?

THAT GAVE US ''BELIEVERS'' PROOF THAT WE WERE BEING WATCHED BY THE

MEDIA.

SOON AFTER,THE LINK WAS CHANGED TO LISABURKS.COM..........WAS SHE WAS

THE ONE WHO TOOK THE PHOTOS?
WHY DID THEY CHANGE IT?

SO,I WENT TO HER WEBSITE...SHE SEEMED LIKE A RATHER ''DOWN TO EARTH''

PERSON.I DECIDED TO EMAIL HER TO SEE WHY TMZ CHANGED THE LINK TO HER

SITE

ME-
HELLO....HOW ARE YOU?
I'M DAISY AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
WHERE YOU THE ONE WHO TOOK...OR...OWN THE PICS OF DEBBIE ROWE AT

FOREST LAWN?

THEY WERE USED MY TMZ......AS YOU MAY KNOW
PLZ WRITE BACK

LISA-
yes, they are my photos.

ME-
thank you for your reply.....o.k,this may be kind of strange to ask

but do you think that there is something strange about mj's

death..........something suspicious

LISA-
i don't know all the facts. what do you think?

ME-
well....i've been investigation his death for a while and i feel that

i may have evidence that mj may have pulled a wool over our eyes.....i

think he may have faked his death.....sounds crazy..........right?

LISA-
i understand that a lot of ppl think that. i haven't given it a lot of

thought. but i do have a friend at the coroners office who was part of

the investigation and autopsy, who told me he's dead and so i go with

what my friend told me.

ME-
WELL....COULD YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO ME

USING THIS SITE

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I CAN READ THE EXIF DATA FROM THE AMBULANCE PHOTOS

THE PHOTOS ARE HERE
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login … 062509_X17

DRAG THE PICS TO AN OPEN TAB AND COPY THE IMAGE LOCATION

ALL THE PICS THAT SUPPOSE TO BE FROM 6/25/09 ARE FROM 6/24/09

AND CHECK THIS OUT....BEFORE TMZ CREDITED YOU FOR THE FL PHOTO THEY

GAVE CREDIT TO

MICHAELJACKSONHOAXDEATH.NET..





LISA-
Let me have time to look into the photo data, thanks.

I'm aware that TMZ credited MJHD originally. They linked to MJHD was

because the photo they used (mine) and the story information (Erin's

post to MJJC) was obtained from a thread on the forum, here:

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4973

A further explanation as to why TMZ changed the credit is here on my

blog:

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ... inish.html

the link to the X17 site is incomplete, not going thru, can you

resend? thanks!

ME-
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login?

gallery=MJacksonHospital062509_X17

remember....you have to drag the photos to an open tab

LISA-
thanks!


ME-
YOUR WELCOME........TAKE YOUR TIME

LISA-
Okay, just ran the photos and got same results as you did.

Here's my opinion based on what I know as a photographer about camera

data and online technology as a former Yahoo! employee:

Caption:Michael Jackson taken in emergency to hospital in UCLA June

24, 2009 X17online.com exclusive

This caption was human input. It ''could'' have been a typo that no

one corrected.

Further down on the data you will also see the EXIF data, which is

embedded into the image digitally by the camera automatically (pre-

cooked):

Pre-cooked Exif info: This data: Model: Canon EOS 50DCamera Date:

2009:06:2513:13:00ISO: 320 Aperture: 5.6 Exposure Time: 1/160 Focal

length: 85.0 mm Flash: On Exposure program: Program AE

This data indicates image was taken on June 25 at 1:13 pm (camera is

military time.)

As far as I know, and you might check with a photo expert on this, you

cannot manipulate the Exif data. The only way it could be affected is

if the camera's date/time was not set correctly prior to the image

being shot.

So, to me, on the surface, it looks like the photo was taken on June

25 at 1:13pm, and that the caption was written in error.

Hope this is helpful to you!

ME-
YES.........IT WAS THANK YOU.......HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE LAX

AIRPORT ON JUNE 25

LISA-
Yes, I've heard and read a bit about LAX 6/25. Where do you think he

might be?

ME-
WELL...I REMEMBER THAT ONE OF THE FIRST SIGHTING TO OF MJ WERE IN

MEXICO...
I DIDN'T BELIEVE THEM AT FIRST ...BUT THEN A POST ON MJHD
ABOUT A PRIVATE PLANE THE LEFT LAX THAT MORNING

MX 927 Extended Flight Status
MX 927 Flight Status
Flight: (MX) Mexicana 927
Departure Date: Thu Jun 25, 2009
Status: Unknown Status

viewtopic.php?

f=64&t=4603&hilit=LAX&start=20

LISA-
Interesting! I would be very glad if he was still alive, and will be

interested to see how it all plays out. Lots of leads and debunking,

good job on tracking things down. Thank you for the links and

information, always like to try and keep an open mind about things.

ME-
HERE IS A SCREENSHOT SOMEONE SENT TO ME....I DON'T THINK THIS WERE

TAKEN FROM X-17

I DON'T KNOW WHAT SITES THIS PICS ARE FROM.........HOPFULLY IT'S NOT A

SHOP JOB

AND DO YOU KNOW TMZ'S EMAIL.....I WANT TO ASK THEM WHY HAVEN'T PUT MJ

ON THEIR ''DIED TOO YOUNG"
LIST


LISA-
That image is owned by WENN.com as seen in the area that states No

TMZ, etc.

Here's a link to a version of same photo that has original EXIF and

XMP data which you can run through te EXIF Viewer:

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ... ambulance-

arrives-at-hospital-with-michael-jackson.jpg

The EXIF data indicates June 24 at 8pm. That's -17 hours from when he

was reported to arrive at UCLA. There is no such thing as -17 hour

time difference in the world time zones so we can rule out that the

camera belonged to a tourist who had the camera date/time set

correctly.

The XMP data indicates when it was Photoshopped and the propriety

information was embedded. Photoshop is a common tool used by

professionals and I don't find it suspicious. They use it to add

copyright information and to sharpen image, etc.

Again, the camera date/time could have been set incorrectly. It's

difficult to prove/disprove without finding the camera and

photographer and at this point the settings may have been changed. You

might want to check with WENN.com, maybe they will tell you something

helpful?

The light in the photo indicates it was not taken at 8pm. According

to this historical sunrise/sunset data, the sun set at 8:07pm on both

June 24 and 25. I don't know how accurate their data is, you might

want to check with the National Weather Service:

Monthly Sunrise Sunset Calendar

From what I know of Photoshop, my own experience, I don't believe the

image was lightened to make it look like daylight. That would be

difficult to do without washing out the ambulance, people, etc. Again,

just my opinion.

As for TMZ, try emailing Dax Holt at ********@tmz.com.

Good luck, I hope you find the answers! Thanks for including me in

your research, it's very intriguing!

ME-
heard about Brian Oxman saying that the ambulance photo with mj in it

being a fake.......thanks for the email

LISA-
since we don't actually see MJ in the photo, it's possible!

ME-
NO.......IT'S THE ONE WHERE WE SEE MJ

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CHECK IT OUT

LISA-
oh, lol...sorry it's been a long day.  

ME-
IT'S O.K..........TAKE YOUR TIME.....

LISA-
Well, to me he looked a lot paler in This Is It. And the ambulance

photo looks like he has sideburns or something. That photo was taken

by Ben Evenstad, and you may or may not know this but Ben was the

photographer who snapped Conrad Murray at Forest Lawn last month. I

was at FL that day, didn't see CM but did see Ben. And the photos of

CM were licensed by Ben's agency. Makes you wonder.....

ME-
I'M GONNA LET YOU GET SOME REST......I'LL EMAIL YOU IN THE MORNING

I THINK BEN AND CM ARE SOMEHOW WORKING TOGETHER.......SOUNDS

STUPID....BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

NITE-NITE.........WELL FOR ME........BECAUSE IN PHILADELPHIA IT'S

2:10AM

LOL....I TALK TOO MUCH. BYE

LISA-
I'll be away from my computer most of the weekend but will get back to

anything you send when I can.

Here's info on CM at FLG and Ben that day, if you haven't seen it:

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ... ayflg.html

Now get some sleep, lol!

Hugs,
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Re: What Lisa Burks Says
March 06, 2010, 11:13:07 PM
Wow ! Great Post !! Ypu still cannot deny the fact that we have Michael sitting up on the stretcher.  As for her friend she may have to tell her that (MJ is dead), because of her job.
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Re: What Lisa Burks Says
March 06, 2010, 11:46:41 PM
At least she has an open mind...    even though she goes to Forest Lawn every months, she did concede that its possible.

She sounds like a really nice lady.
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Re: What Lisa Burks Says
March 06, 2010, 11:51:33 PM
Quote from: "letstalkagain"
Wow ! Great Post !! Ypu still cannot deny the fact that we have Michael sitting up on the stretcher.  As for her friend she may have to tell her that (MJ is dead), because of her job.
I thought that same thing myself...the thing about her friend.
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Re: What Lisa Burks Says
March 07, 2010, 12:31:42 AM
IM sorry! I have been in my padded cell too long but ummmm Who's Lisa? Thanks. :)
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Re: What Lisa Burks Says
March 07, 2010, 05:29:16 AM
thank you for sharing mykidsmum  ;)

Lisa looks really nice  :)
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