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I thought Id try and post a list of all the slip-ups made in the media by people who knew Michael. These are not the exact quotes but if Im totally wrong then please correct me.If you know any slipups then please post every single one that you've found either on audio, video or text on the internet by the people who knew him.Dancer from TII on german talkshow, talks about Michael in present tense. The host asks him why he is speaking of MJ in present tense as if he is not really dead and the dancer replies saying: ''But he isnt dead, not for me. I can feel him, in the life experiences I now have. I can still feel he is there for me''.Benjamin the paparazzi, whilst interviewed on norweigan TV he was asked how much he made for the last photo taken of MJ, he replied ''Chris me and the other people that were there that day and the other day and uh..'' looking very uncomfortable and embarrased. Ive seen this guy in other interviews and most times he is often arrogant and confident.LaToya, after the memorial at Staple Centre the Jackson sisters greet the fans and LaToya talks about Michael in present tense saying ''Thank you for coming and thank you for your support. Michael loves you all so much. His family comes first and his fans come second. He is watching every single one of you and he loves you so much''.Jermaine at the premiere of TII, on Larry King Live: ''This is it. But this is really not this. This is not the final curtain, no''.Randy Phillips interviewed through a phone call: ''Michael said thank you for getting me this far, I can take it from here. Whatever happened that morning, I was at the hospital when he arrived but whatever happened that morning certainly wasnt something that he ever thought or planned''.Arnie Klein, interview LKL: ''He was probably the most talented actor...''
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Michael-Jacksons-This-Disc-Collectors/dp/B002VJJGJY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1259889100&sr=1-1click next to the video where it says 'Exclusive Behind The Scenes Clip'see if you notice it or i am just looking too far into things!
Great thread!I still love Harvey Levins(TMZ dude) comments on how they broke the story before anyone else! Thats the true tell tale for me ;)
here you can see a lot but listen carefully what KO has to say...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhEGFOqtfMw
Kenny Ortega on Oprah Winfrey Show - ''Its hard to understand he is STILL not with us'' and Oprah even corrects him and replies ''...that he is not with us''.
LOL..This thread should 20 pages long by now!!!
This is a big one!!Jermaine on Entertainment Tonight, the interviewer said: Some people think you {Jermaine} are trying to make money off of Michaels' death and Jermaine replies: "That's ridiculous, how can we make money off of something that we made?" ;)
Probably Jermaine means Jackson5.This thread makes me feel good every time :D
Jermaine has a realllly big mouth!!! :D
KING: Frank, what is the most -- what struck you the most about the film? How well did they put it together? DILEO: They put it together very well. It's very compelling. There's some sad moments, some funny moments. But when you walk out, you feel a little -- you feel bad because you know you lost a great entertainer. But what you get see is real genius in the creation of this whole movie and this whole stage.
Jermaine Jackson on Larry King Live with his brothers:"Michael is dreaming big ... oh, was dreaming big"Good one, you almost blew it Jermaine. :mrgreen:
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"Jermaine Jackson on Larry King Live with his brothers:"Michael is dreaming big ... oh, was dreaming big"Good one, you almost blew it Jermaine. :mrgreen:Did he really make that pause and used the "oh" word, like correcting his statement? Not that I don't believe you, but if he said it like imagine it...then it is one heck of a slip-up. Wish there was a video...
Hey guys new to the board was on mjhd but closed anyway a slip up i heard about was the keys player from tii talking about Michael rehearsing dirty diana but ko said they never got the chance to so maybe michael came in and did it after june 25th lol
When exactly did they find out about the prescription drugs? Before or after he died? Because I thought they all found out after he died so now they would try and comfort and support him? After his death? To me it sounds like Michael is still alive but he is in treatment and they all tried to help him in the best way they could. Jermaine also said ''he is in safekeepings'' and to me that sounds like rehab.
Joe Jacksons female publisist: ''He loves the fans, he absolutely loves the fans.... and he misses them''LaToya Jackson speaks to paparazzi in her car: ''He appreciates everything you're doing, we're all watching''Kenny Ortega on working on TII with Michael: ''We lived in the editing room for weeks''Larry King to Joe Jackson: ''Isnt it hard to accept?''Joe Jackson reply: ''Accept what Larry?''Larry King: ''That your son is dead?''Kai Chase: (Female cook who worked for Michael) ''We were praying to god that Mr Jackson was OK. And he was OK.''jajaja it's so funny that one of Joe, I didn't see that interview but I can imagine his face jaja What I do belive, is that Michael planned all this for a long time, but he didn't planned what his family was supposed to say .. maybe he told them "you just.. go with the flow, you will know what to say... c'mon! is really not that complicated!" :s jaja thanks for the post !kissesKenny Ortea during interview: ''His death was unneccesary and I'll leave it at that right now''
I don't know how to edit my post :( but I guess you understand that my post is in the quote above :P jaja sorry!
THE JACKSONOLOGIST » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:00 pm LOL..This thread should 20 pages long by now!!!
One of Janet's slip up to me was when she said everyone needs a safehaven. She didn't need one. So, the only one I could think of was that she was talking about her brother MJ.
what about these-1. larry king- well, MICHAEL JACKSON is still dead2. kenny ortega- he's so much present in the film that you'll forget that he's still dead3.jermaine's intentional smile lyrics twisting4. KO congratulated MJ on twitter on his 4 AMAs winsorry if reposted :oops:
Not quite sure I understand this one. I am not debunking you, can you break it down for me so much info and slipups from the family hard to keep up!!! :) Thanks
Quote from: "mjboogie"Not quite sure I understand this one. I am not debunking you, can you break it down for me so much info and slipups from the family hard to keep up!!! :) ThanksHad we heard the below version before?"I talked to him the first time and he was at the house and my mom was in the background crying, and she was just upset."Which house was good 'ole Frank at? At one time, we heard he was at MJ's house. So if he was at MJ's house when Marlon talked to him the first time, how could he hear his Mom crying in the backgroud?" We've never heard that Mom was at MJ's house.Now if he was at the Encino home, what time did he get there? We all saw video of Mom arriving alone at the hospital, and we heard stories that Frank was already there when she arrived. If he was at the Encino home and Marlon heard his Mom in the background, why didn't both he and Mom drive together to the hospital?Frank says he was told by the nurse that it didn't look good for MJ and that they were waiting for his mother to arrive.I think it was all planned and rehearsed. Of course, the best plans can be waylaid if not all parties remember every little detail of their respective parts. And a lot of this had to happen fast. All of the cast members can't be expected to get all of their facts straight, and as this website proves, they didn't.
Janet’s interview on ABC she mentioned that she was in NEW YORK when she heard the news, but in her Bazaar-interview she said that she was on the set of her movie in Atlanta. Her director Tyler Perry also confirmed it in an interview but I thought she was in London when she heard the news? Slipup anyways.I guess the saying ''I remember the day like it happened yesterday'' does not imply for the Jackson family, odd.. Since I remember June 25th crystal clear like it happened yesterday, where I was, what I was doing the moment I found out he died. But the Jacksons seem to have been in more places than one. :roll:
DontBelieveTheHype » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:19 pm Infinitylady wrote:One of Janet's slip up to me was when she said everyone needs a safehaven. She didn't need one. So, the only one I could think of was that she was talking about her brother MJ.She said that in her latest interview with Robin? This reminds me of what Jermaine said: ''he is in safekeepings now''. Safehaven and safekeepings. Hmmm.
Jermaine on the Family Dynasty show on A&E, He said: "I have never been to the O2 arena and I am excited to see it because this is where Michael is doing his shows''.Speaks of Michael in present tense AGAIN!!!Im sorry but 6 months after his death, I think they would come to terms with not using present tense in these sentences. My cousin who passed away last year was a singer and proffecional performer too.. If I were to visit one of the stages she used to sing at I would never accidently say ''where she is doing her shows''.
But I think this was filmed before Michaels Death
Quote from: "Kirsche"But I think this was filmed before Michaels DeathOh bummer.. :(
I understand when you have a relative that has passed away and you talk reffering to him like if he was alive.. talk in present tense.. But this little girl? I'm sorry if you have already talked about this video, but I just found it and.. I just can't believe that if he is in fact death, some ppl that weren't to close to him, keep saying things as "he is.." even when the reporter ask you "how WAS he?".lot of L.O.V.E!EDIT: :P I posted before to see the end of the video.. at the end the reporter ask if she wants to talk about anything else, and she says "yes, about how great michael was" or something like that.. in the last 1 minute of the interview... maybe i'm crazy, but i wont buy this interview as so many others.
i am going to play the bad guy just for one sec...ok imagine if you were a celebrity and you were bouncing from state to state or country wherever all within a few days...hell i would get confused as to where the heck i was to!! thats in regards to all of janets slip upsbut i still think MJ is alive :p
Agreed.. any big news you are bound to remember where you was. I was 14 years old when the planes hit the Twin Towers, I still remember where I was and what my first words were when I saw it on TV. She should remember too, if she was so shocked about his news.
Quote from: "i_need YoU"i am going to play the bad guy just for one sec...ok imagine if you were a celebrity and you were bouncing from state to state or country wherever all within a few days...hell i would get confused as to where the heck i was to!! thats in regards to all of janets slip upsbut i still think MJ is alive :pWell do you remember that interview that MJ gave when he describes where he was when he was told Princess Diana died?MJ didnt have any trouble remembering where he was that day and who told him. He says he remembers it like it was yesterday too.. just like all us normal people who remember big events. He also cancelled his concert in memory of Diana.. and he wasnt a relative, only a friend and he grieved. He grieved for Diana the way we grieve for him. :cry: See the difference in how he describes his sadness and how his family describe his!!!Although it is worrying how he says his doctor woke him up... MICHAEL!! Enough of these doctors already, baby!![youtube:3ids1bxc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRV_zpRiyqc&feature=PlayList&p=22982B912298D0E1&index=0[/youtube:3ids1bxc]
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"Quote from: "i_need YoU"i am going to play the bad guy just for one sec...ok imagine if you were a celebrity and you were bouncing from state to state or country wherever all within a few days...hell i would get confused as to where the heck i was to!! thats in regards to all of janets slip upsbut i still think MJ is alive :pWell do you remember that interview that MJ gave when he describes where he was when he was told Princess Diana died?MJ didnt have any trouble remembering where he was that day and who told him. He says he remembers it like it was yesterday too.. just like all us normal people who remember big events. He also cancelled his concert in memory of Diana.. and he wasnt a relative, only a friend and he grieved. He grieved for Diana the way we grieve for him. :cry: See the difference in how he describes his sadness and how his family describe his!!!Although it is worrying how he says his doctor woke him up... MICHAEL!! Enough of these doctors already, baby!![youtube:27k4xj6f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRV_zpRiyqc&feature=PlayList&p=22982B912298D0E1&index=0[/youtube:27k4xj6f]I remember where I was and what I was doing when the not guilty verdicts were being read for Michael, I remember the same when the HBO concert in Bucharest was airing and I didn't get to watch because a bad storm in our area knocked our cable out (btw HBO sent me a concert t-shirt and a Dangerous album when I contacted them!) I remember where I was, what I was doing, even what I was wearing, when any major event happened concerning Michael. It just seems to me that the ones closest to him are strangely detached and evasive about it all. No one can give a straight answer when questioned, they just try to change the subject and deflect attention to something trivial. I've gone back and watched a lot of the LKL interviews after 6/25/09 and it is clear that a common thread of deception runs through them all.
Quote from: "i_need YoU"i am going to play the bad guy just for one sec...ok imagine if you were a celebrity and you were bouncing from state to state or country wherever all within a few days...hell i would get confused as to where the heck i was to!! thats in regards to all of janets slip upsbut i still think MJ is alive :pWell do you remember that interview that MJ gave when he describes where he was when he was told Princess Diana died?MJ didnt have any trouble remembering where he was that day and who told him. He says he remembers it like it was yesterday too.. just like all us normal people who remember big events. He also cancelled his concert in memory of Diana.. and he wasnt a relative, only a friend and he grieved. He grieved for Diana the way we grieve for him. :cry: See the difference in how he describes his sadness and how his family describe his!!!Although it is worrying how he says his doctor woke him up... MICHAEL!! Enough of these doctors already, baby!![youtube:27k4xj6f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRV_zpRiyqc&feature=PlayList&p=22982B912298D0E1&index=0[/youtube:27k4xj6f]
I'm starting to agree with the movie theory. I think we're all living Liberian Girl II.It can't be a coincidence that Liberian Girl was the theme of his "funeral".
I think their behavior says it all. The ONLY ONE who looks truly grief-stricken is Michael's ex Tatiana.
QuoteI think their behavior says it all. The ONLY ONE who looks truly grief-stricken is Michael's ex Tatiana. I like Tatiana but why was she here ? She appeared on lot of interviews after TWYMMF , even as later as 2003(Bashir went to interview her)She like to gossip , she has got out a book and admitted later that she lied about her relationship with Mike in it.I mean why was she invited ?Even if she talked about Mike a lot on interviews and her myspace ,we didn't hear,see her anywhere near Mike since several years if I'm not mistaken.Have you seen Ola Ray(Thriller) or Iman at the funeral ?Or maybe I didn't recognize them.Why Tatiana ?Just because she had a crush over him ?Well why not invite all the girls that have a crush over him then ?(if we just count the girls in the entertainment industry of course)(there must be a lot even if it hasn't been talked of right ?)I don't know , doesn't it seems strange ?
there were so many people there at the funeral who i had no idea who they were...they just looked like random people heehee but michael did have a really big family that was not drawn into fame through Michael's name
Check these clips of slip ups, The woman says at beggining that Mike was healthy, then in same interview he was really ill, I Mean come on??!!??!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbV9KM7fLdgAnd of course the Homer Simpson, Sorry i Mean Joe Jackson clip...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W3Yhs-dlIc
According to the transcript of his interview below, it was the Beverly Hilton. He left out the time of the initial phone call in the LKL interview but he was specific about it in the website video interview. He did say "a fan" called him and asked if he knew that an ambulance was in front of MJ's house but he left out the time of "1130" phone call. In this interview he left out the part about going to change clothes and "getting lost" on the way to the house..he said both of those in the website's interview (in addition to getting the ticket for retrieving his car, waiting on the car) http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-thi ... rank+dileoDILEO: I was having lunch at the Beverly Hilton. And I got a phone call from a fan who was...KING: A fan?DILEO: A fan who said, Frank, do you know there's an ambulance in front of Michael's house?And I said, no, I don't, but I'm going to look right into it. And Ihung up. I called Michael's assistant. And I said -- his name isMichael, also.I said Michael, is there an ambulance at the house?He said, that's what I heard. He said, I'm on my way. And I said, well,I'll be there in one second. I went in to get my ticket for the car.And I called Randi Phillips and said look, you're closer...
I love this one... Janet can be such a bad actress.http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/f ... rview-1009[...] Her brother, of course, shared a love for the same palette. She lights up when she talks about Michael's style. "My brother is, I mean was..." She shifts on the couch and stares at the floor. "You have to forgive me, because it's really hard to believe he's passed. He'd have the same red shirt, the same black pants, the same white T-shirt. Mike was very simple. [...]The way she's trying to talk her way out of it is so ridiculous. Would you feel the need to excuse yourself like this had your brother just passed? And I don't even wanna imagine her "staring at the floor", so fake. We can only hope Michael's alive, 'cause if he isn't, none of his family members, not even his kids, seem to have genuinely cared about him.
Quote from: "Bee Bee"I love this one... Janet can be such a bad actress.http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/f ... rview-1009[...] Her brother, of course, shared a love for the same palette. She lights up when she talks about Michael's style. "My brother is, I mean was..." She shifts on the couch and stares at the floor. "You have to forgive me, because it's really hard to believe he's passed. He'd have the same red shirt, the same black pants, the same white T-shirt. Mike was very simple. [...]The way she's trying to talk her way out of it is so ridiculous. Would you feel the need to excuse yourself like this had your brother just passed? And I don't even wanna imagine her "staring at the floor", so fake. We can only hope Michael's alive, 'cause if he isn't, none of his family members, not even his kids, seem to have genuinely cared about him.Playing Devils Advocate... grief can do funny things and it is very common for people to still talk about people who have passed in the present tense.
Quote from: "Bee Bee"I love this one... Janet can be such a bad actress.http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/f ... rview-1009[...] Her brother, of course, shared a love for the same palette. She lights up when she talks about Michael's style. "My brother is, I mean was..." She shifts on the couch and stares at the floor. "You have to forgive me, because it's really hard to believe he's passed. He'd have the same red shirt, the same black pants, the same white T-shirt. Mike was very simple. [...]The way she's trying to talk her way out of it is so ridiculous. Would you feel the need to excuse yourself like this had your brother just passed? And I don't even wanna imagine her "staring at the floor", so fake. We can only hope Michael's alive, 'cause if he isn't, none of his family members, not even his kids, seem to have genuinely cared about him.ah, and when she talked about her last meeting with him at her birthday she was able to talk in the past? Veeery strange!
first off i would like to state Bee Bee your sig is freaking awesome!!!.....Now moving on...I am kinda scared to be judging people in the familys emotions because if Michael Really Was Dead Then We Have Just Made Them Look So Bad And People Deal With Death So Differently... I Would Be In Denial To And Talk In Present Tense ( Like I Am Doing To This Day Because If He Were Really Dead Then We All Are Really In Major Hardcore Denial) I Have Seen Some People Bounce Back Very Strong...In My School We Lost 5 Students In 2 Weeks And One Was My Friend Who Lost There Brother And Another Friend Lost There Sister In The Same Accident...But They Recovered Quickly And Very Strong...Its Like Amazed Me On How They Reacted. Lily Missed 2 Weeks And Cody Only Missed 1 Day Of School And Was Back On His Feet...I Was Very Proud Of Them. People Have Different Methods For Dealing With Death...Lily...Stayed Away For Awhile To Reconcile What Happened And Preferred To Be Alone For A Bit While Cody Went Back To School And Kept His MInd Busy...Just Saying... :D I Still Think He Is Alive Though
Thanks for saying that about my sig! :lol: And yes... You're right! People do deal with things differently. But I'm telling you now... When Janet appeared at the BET Awards, I didn't really believe Michael was alive yet. And when I saw her... and just thought about the fact that she'd went there at all... I was so hurt, so incredibly hurt. Because I love Janet. And everything she did just seemed so fake to me. People left comments on YouTube like: "OMG! Poor Janet! She almost cried!" And I'm like WHAT??? I just couldn't believe it. Her brother died a few days ago and wasn't even cold yet and she appears on TV and she almost cries? Then some of my friends said kinda what you said, that I shouldn't judge her and that I didn't even know her and she might just be stronger than me. Yeah, right. Stronger. Or you might just as well say... less sensitive. Of course people react differently, but people might just as well not care that much for their family members, and I just can't imagine that there is anyone in this world, who has a heart and who claims to have loved someone, who isn't completely heartbroken for quite a while if that person dies. Yeah, you might say they just push it away, maybe some people are able to, but then they certainly don't want to appear on TV and talk about their loss, you know what I mean? I don't think anybody forced them to do this. As for Janet, I couldn't possibly believe that she's cold like that. Michael and her loved each other so much. When I saw Janet there, I saw no real emotions. And that's what makes me so sick. So sick that when I think that Michael might be dead, I don't even think I can stand the Jacksons anymore. I don't know if I'm just weaker than them or whatever people might say, but in my opinion they keep acting sad, when they don't genuinely seem to care. And their behavior is one of the main reasons I can't believe Michael's dead. Paris' speech too, she was NOT crying, there wasn't a single tear on her face, I just couldn't believe it. This is not normal. Just not normal... You know what I mean? I can't believe it. If I'm forced to beliehttp://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com ... &p=47817ve that Michael's dead one day, I... I feel terrible for saying that, but I don't know what to think of Janet anymore. But I don't believe it. And we also know from her movies that Janet is a better actress than that. :D
GERALDO: Whats the big plan, whats the big picture at this stage in life, what has been left unachieved? What would you like to do?MICHAEL: Um.. There are alot of surprises. Um.. Film. I love film.GERALDO: What else?MICHAEL: Well, its not so much so film but its innovating it. And pioneering it. Taking the medium to a new place.GERALDO: You're not talking about music videos now?MICHAEL: No, no. Because I used the music video medium as a short film medium um to take me to the next level and Im.. Im having alot of fun, you know.
I also believe that all of those things they said about Michael being on earth again and stuff just have to do with them being very religious. But I also think that they would be incredibly stupid if they never thought that this might be extremely confusing to the public. Them talking about Michael in the present tense might as well just have the same reason, but that makes Janet excusing herself like this, ALL OF A SUDDEN, even weirder.
Quote from: "Bee Bee"I also believe that all of those things they said about Michael being on earth again and stuff just have to do with them being very religious. But I also think that they would be incredibly stupid if they never thought that this might be extremely confusing to the public. Them talking about Michael in the present tense might as well just have the same reason, but that makes Janet excusing herself like this, ALL OF A SUDDEN, even weirder.If Michael really is dead then maybe they feel they dont have to alter their religion just so we wont get confused...afterall Michael is their family and we are just the fans. At a time like this ( IF he really is gone) they can do whatever it is the believe because it wont be about what we think anymore it would be about them and how they see it. And IF he is dead they were atleast nice enough to invite us to the memorial to see and pay tribute to, so they can have open or closed whichev way. IF he really is gone they might have had closed casket because of his mother was so heartbroken and she probably wouldnt be able to take sitting right in front of her babies open casket for a couple hours like that just seeing him there dead. I just saying that those make sense to me...in their defense...you need to try and open your eyes and try to see not just our view on things..but also how the family are seeing things. His whole life was in the spotlight, maybe they didnt want to see his open casket in the spot light to...maybe they are saying RIP from his official time of death. PEACE I said IF so please dont bash me... :)
I dont recall Mrs. Katherine Jackson or Joe going to the private ceremony :? I though they wanted to remember him as when he were alive and didnt wanna see his body :? interesting
Quote from: "i_need YoU"I dont recall Mrs. Katherine Jackson or Joe going to the private ceremony :? I though they wanted to remember him as when he were alive and didnt wanna see his body :? interestingReally? Hmm, now that you said it. I don't know, really. I only remember reports about "the family" or "family members" being there. I just thought if they can attend the memorial, they can attend the private ceremony as well. If it was me, I'd rather say no-no to the memorial. Well, I would've. But of course you have a point about seeing the body and stuff. *sighs*
A couple of slip ups on this clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVt8ERRalRI&feature=subAt 1.14 Michael Bearden says " We were working everyday for the last 5 days of,5months of his life"Was he only there for the last 5 days?Also check the screen capture i got, they call Michael Bearden Kenny Ortega.Is Kenny copying Mike now and wearing disguises?? Ha Ha!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "TheKingWillReturn"A couple of slip ups on this clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVt8ERRalRI&feature=subAt 1.14 Michael Bearden says " We were working everyday for the last 5 days of,5months of his life"Was he only there for the last 5 days?Also check the screen capture i got, they call Michael Bearden Kenny Ortega.Is Kenny copying Mike now and wearing disguises?? Ha Ha!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:bahahaha i noticed that to when i watched the interview i was like uuuhhhh....and started looking around for someone to mention this to lol because i found it strange :lol: :lol: this makes me laugh bahahaha
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judith hill interview when asked how did she hear about michaels passing " when i got to rehearsal they told me lightman was on" and interviewer said " so when lightman came on then that meant michael was gone" and she said "yes". so did michael let them know he was going to leave one day but wouldnt tell them what day and to look for lightman?
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"judith hill interview when asked how did she hear about michaels passing " when i got to rehearsal they told me lightman was on" and interviewer said " so when lightman came on then that meant michael was gone" and she said "yes". so did michael let them know he was going to leave one day but wouldnt tell them what day and to look for lightman?hmmm very interesting find. I didnt think about that :?
Can someone please try to explain to me what's the exact difference between the words PAIN and PAINS?I've read so much about that, but still don't know it (couldn't find pains in my dictionary either).It seems so importent.I'll go to sleep now (it's very late here) and hope to know the answer tomorrow .... :P
@ KIRSCHEit is very nice, but then when she says "he is smiling at us, this is so much what he wants" , there comes this fairy tale feeling over me, almost surrealistic. I do not doubt that she feels connected to Michael`s spirit and wants to express love and respect,but this definately got me hesitating in a positive way :D
Back to the slip up list; I think this one is one!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGHWLI0491YWatch from 06.30 till 06.50, at 06.41 it happensJermaine says: ..and the type of person that he was and still..( he realises and puts his finger on his mouth)..uh,well always will/would be..Maybe he still feels very much in touch with MJ and therefore speaks as if he still IS, but the fact that he moves his finger to his mouth confirms his awareness of saying something he shouldn`t .Also, I find this interview interesting regarding the political issue, blaming the US government very obviously and supporting islam and the gulf countries on this arabian broadcaster.
To me that means nothing, still always will be. That can be taken so many ways. Like I said in another forum, you can take any event and analyze the crap out of every single statement made and take it out of context like I have seen done on here so many times and make it sound like what you want to believe.
How about when they announced on the news that MJ just died and he was cremated? Then, later on, they changed their story at the memorial saying that they could not show his face because it was badly damaged from CPR? That's a pretty serious slip up or goof up. LOL.
my[KING]"]a coworker of mine, his cousin works at ucla medical and he told him that he was the one that went in and tagged mj and that he looked like an old asian guy bald and very white and very very cold and already somewhat stiff so wouldve been dead for a while. also he said he looked nothing like Mj. at first i just took it for what he said, but now that i am doubting mjS death i wonder why the cousin wouldnt mention his face was completely bruised or "messed up".
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"Kenny Ortega on Oprah Winfrey Show - ''Its hard to understand he is STILL not with us'' and Oprah even corrects him and replies ''...that he is not with us''.Yes and also on Oprah's show he says: "he's just so much alive to me, thank god!"I love this thread. :)
Quote from: "i[MISSmy[KING]"]a coworker of mine, his cousin works at ucla medical and he told him that he was the one that went in and tagged mj and that he looked like an old asian guy bald and very white and very very cold and already somewhat stiff so wouldve been dead for a while. also he said he looked nothing like Mj. at first i just took it for what he said, but now that i am doubting mjS death i wonder why the cousin wouldnt mention his face was completely bruised or "messed up".I was told the exact same thing from someone on YT, ok not the most reliable source but it freaked me out. So I made a post about it here on the forum and people brought me down on earth again :P This person said that his/her friend worked at the UCLA and that he did the toe tagging on Michael but then people here on the forum made it clear that they don't use toetags anymore, at least not at UCLA! So that's quite a giveaway. These people must of heard about the "autopsy" report and based their stories on that. Although in the back of my mind I'm worrying that it could be true :cry: I guess since we're not certain about anything it's difficult to just shake things off...
Another slip up to add:Karen Faye stated on her facebook that a mortician told her personally that MJ body weighed 109 pounds.In the autopsy it states 136 pounds.
Jermaine's latest slip-up:"Michael wasn't with us way before he arrived to the airport........um, of course to the hospital"http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 7096947001
Listen to what Larry says!"did you invite Michael in any way?" Is that a slipup??? Can you inpite a dead person?http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsY39k46XI
Is this a slip-up? Listen carefully at 1:59.
listen at is...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27665VPRmQJoe jackson at the BET awards 2009, it was on june 28 I thing... at 3:38, the guy talk about the 60th wedding anniversary of joe and katherine ''a couples of weeks ago'' Jermaine talk about that in an other interview as a family reunion a week and a half before michael ''death''...but I look on several website, and they said that Joe and Katherine was November 5, 1949...curious they celebrated them on june....He also say: Our plan going forward...what do it mean?
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/I just watched the videos with the 3 bodyguards on ABC.com. There is one named "Little Janet" One of the bodyguards says soemthing like: When Janet's movie"Why did I get married"came out he went like HUH? He didn't know, how close can you be when you don't even know your little sisters movie came out today.NOw, as I recall, Janet was still filming this movie in Atlanta when the news of Michael's hospitalizaton broke. When exactly did they tell him the movie came out?This is a major clue for me.
they celebrated the wedding anniversary on may 15 at an indian restaurantI have a pic of it
I thought Id try and post a list of all the slip-ups made in the media by people who knew Michael. These are not the exact quotes but if Im totally wrong then please correct me.If you know any slipups then please post every single one that you've found either on audio, video or text on the internet by the people who knew him.Dancer from TII on Holland talkshow, talks about Michael in present tense. The host asks him why he is speaking of MJ in present tense as if he is not really dead and the dancer replies saying: ''But he isnt dead, not for me. I can feel him, in the life experiences I now have. I can still feel he is there for me''.Benjamin the paparazzi, whilst interviewed on norweigan TV he was asked how much he made for the last photo taken of MJ, he replied ''Chris me and the other people that were there that day and the other day and uh..'' looking very uncomfortable and embarrased. Ive seen this guy in other interviews and most times he is often arrogant and confident.LaToya, after the memorial at Staple Centre the Jackson sisters greet the fans and LaToya talks about Michael in present tense saying ''Thank you for coming and thank you for your support. Michael loves you all so much. His family comes first and his fans come second. He is watching every single one of you and he loves you so much''.Jermaine at the premiere of TII, on Larry King Live: ''This is it. But this is really not this. This is not the final curtain, no''.Randy Phillips interviewed through a phone call: ''Michael said thank you for getting me this far, I can take it from here. Whatever happened that morning, I was at the hospital when he arrived but whatever happened that morning certainly wasnt something that he ever thought or planned''.Arnie Klein, interview LKL: ''He was probably the most talented actor...''
Guys when Kenny says he brought Michael into the room with him to help put the footage together to make a movie he could be refering to a different Michael...I mean there was a Michael Bearden, who was the Musical Director...c'mon now lol don't forget about im...I'm sure if Kenny said THE EXACT same thing twice its not a slip up he probably means Michael Bearden...
Hi There! I do not know what to say. Forgive me as my English is not good. I am very very sad, still very sad about Michael's death. I went thru a lot just to know what my heart wants for him. Or God wants him to be. I have been using much of my time since his 'passing' to find hope of his well-being coz I really want him to be alive. My friends do not believe me and cannot understand my profound sadness. They asked me what would I gain out of this (the time of wanting to know him being alive)? He is Michael Jackson & u are just a fan. Ultimately, even he's alive, he has to live his life. Their point is I have to live my life till fullest. Take one day at a time. I understand their concerns and points. However, I really do not understand what I want from MJ to be alived. I can admit MJ has indeed touches my life througout my life at certain point of my own struggles and difficulties. I feel very connected to him thru his songs & music & everything. I know how one feels to get addicted to presciption drugs. I had quitted my presciption drugs and then after MJ "died", I thought I could handle it by joing the Hoax discussions or even viewing all the MJ is alive theories, I was wrong, I got hit when I questioned the persons who made the vids, I was teased by my own friends and family member that they are thinking I am real nuts/crazy, I cannot talk to any of my friend, if even I talked abt MJ too much, they laughed in their heart and I know it. All of that was okay. Until I tried to talk to MJ in This is it web-page, I shared with him and just recently I shared with him I saw him in the Jackson 5 Dynasty, I thought just share. When friends asked me where and now it had been removed, I cannot say I have passed message to TII feedback, I am not sure whether it was MJ or his management removed him, from that originally to be 9 mins clip reduced to 7mins plus clip. I went back to TII and feedback again, I felt very betrayed. I never betray him and I shared here because it is hoax page--it is relevant. Then, I relapsed. I took 3 heavy-duty sleeping pills to get high. Then, I got hooked again. I was so high and I went back to TII and I wrote something to MJ and then the next day I wrote to him and apologized because I really forget what I did, I have a vague memory but I am not sure when I woke up. I want my life back. A drug-free life. I wanna MJ to know ur fans though many, please treasure each of them. I do not expect u to know my whole life. I do want my life back. I love MJ. I do not understand why u have to do this.
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"Agreed.. any big news you are bound to remember where you was. I was 14 years old when the planes hit the Twin Towers, I still remember where I was and what my first words were when I saw it on TV. She should remember too, if she was so shocked about his news.
Quote from: "Ninanina"Jermaine's latest slip-up:"Michael wasn't with us way before he arrived to the airport........um, of course to the hospital"http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 7096947001
Quote from: "kel70"Quote from: "Ninanina"Jermaine's latest slip-up:"Michael wasn't with us way before he arrived to the airport........um, of course to the hospital"http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 7096947001he said airport and tat y i think michael is still alive. Cause Lax airport was closed for 1 hour i think can't rember but anyway during the time LAX was closed people said they saw a privet jet leaving it
Quote from: "MJ King Of Pop"Quote from: "kel70"Quote from: "Ninanina"Jermaine's latest slip-up:"Michael wasn't with us way before he arrived to the airport........um, of course to the hospital"http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 7096947001he said airport and tat y i think michael is still alive. Cause Lax airport was closed for 1 hour i think can't rember but anyway during the time LAX was closed people said they saw a privet jet leaving itand wasn't it only one section closed and not the whole airport?
No one ever said his nose/face collapsed because of surgeries. (!!!). The familly declared his face got scars/was damaged because of the CPR. If any person who needs a CPR and then survives would end up with his face damaged by it... This for me sounded highly absurd.
