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Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"I total agree, we should respect the Jackson family. Especially Katherine. The only thing I do not agree I don't respect and which I am strongly against is Joe Jackson beating Michael when he was a child. Michael was afraid of him. No parent has the right to beat up a child, especially because he doesn't perform to Joe's expectations. every child needs discipline, I know I am a mother. I remember MJ doing an interview with Oprah at his Neverland Ranch. He said something about his father and he said "Oh no. I am sorry Joe, please do not get angry".. Oprah opened her eyes wide open.. Meaning wow you are afraid of your father.. Even as an adult he was afraid of his father, that is not normal.In your opinion is that ok for a child to be afraid of a parent? Would you be able to live like that?? I know I can't. Also when Mj died on June 25 2009 they interviewed Joe and he was promoting his new business. I am writing this, to make you understand why people do not respect Joe Jackson, and the family. I am a humanitarian, I respect everyone, I tried to understand why some people do what they do, and let it be.. My motto is LIVE AND LET LIVE...ALRIGHT NOW! No parent have the right to spank a child? well i guess no wonder there is so many kids killing their parents while they sleep and so many of them are juvenile and so many of them doing drug and are muderers starting age 4so many of them are on the path to hell. cause they ain't got no good parents to discipline them. the next thing you know my tax dollars goes to pay for the juvenile center to straighten up your kids.because you are not good enough of a mother and don't have enough guts to straight your kids yourself. ain't no body willl tell me not to spank my child my mother spanked me and thank God it help me stay on the right path, does that make her a bad mother michael was shooting shoes at his father it's not like he was an angel he never been and never will be an angel, he always stood up to his father they both were beating the hell out of each other cause mj was always fighting back, so don't sit there acting like MJ is JESUS cause he ain't even Jesus would have told him to respect his father and one of the reason why he went through hell it's because of the disrespect that he showed his dad. the bible says HONOR TY FATHER AND THOU SHALL BE BLESSED AND LIVE A LONG LIFE.MJ knew that he father loves him and no matter what he did his father would still be there to support him.FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE TO GIVE CREDIT TO HIS FATHER FOR HIM BECOMING THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER IN THE WORLD.Without his father he would be NOTHING even with the RAW talent that GOD HAS GIVEN HIM his father's Job was to POLISH THAT TALENT and remove the so called fake sensisivity that MJ used to portray himself in the public eyes in order to gain sympathy. do not think for a minute that MJ is an ANGEL as much as i love him MJ is extremely calculative, and manipulative , you do not last so long in HOLLYWWOD WITHOUT HAVING GAME.i AM NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE MJ IS A TOTAL SAINT CAUSE HE SAID IT HIMSELF. and i quote:" I AM NOT A DEMON BUT I AM NOT AN ANGEL EITHER " AS FAR AS SPANKING IS CONCERNED, THANK GOD FOR IT.Cause because of it, i ain't doing none of what i am not supposed to do.JOE JACKSON DID WHAT ANY FATHER WHO LOVES HIS CHIOLD IS SUPPOSED TO DO AND BECAUSE OF THAT NON OF THEM JACKSON KIDS WENT TO THE PENN.JOE JACKSON IS NOT PERFECT EVERY FATHER MAKES MISTAKE.IF YOU THINK FOR A MINUTES THAT EVERY WORD THAT CAME OUT OF MICHAEL'S MOUTH IS THE TRUTH THEN I GOT NEWS FOR YOU. MJ LIES THROUGH HIS TEETH.AND IF YOU THINK THAT HE NEVER DISCIPLINED HIS CHILDREN, THEN THINK AGAIN. AND I STAND BY EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE POST THAT WAS DELETED. SOME FANS HERE DISGUST ME THEY ALWAYS WANT TO SEPARATE MICHAEL FROM HIS FAMILY BECAUSE HIS FAMILY REMINDS THEM THAT HE IS BLACK PERIOD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAY JOE RAISED HIS KIDS THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.DON'T DENY IT , FACE THE MUSIC.DO YOU KNOW THE DEFINITION OF SPANKING AND BEATING? I DON'T BECAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN'T WRITE THIS.. I GOT SPANKED ALSO WHEN I WAS A CHILD SO I DID SPANK MY KIDS, BUT NEVER BEATEN THEM NOR KICKED THEM IN THE CROTCH LIKE JOE DID.. SO BEFORE YOU WRITE LOOK AT THE FACTSi don't need a child to lecture me about what spanking and beating means..Sorry but why do you think you're so grown up? you don't really behave like that.... Even if it IS a child who tells you that, is it wrong? I don't think so.... It is okay, that you have your own opinion but you don't need to attack other people, just because they have different opinions...And nobody hates the family...especially not of their skin colour??!!Some ppl just don't like it how Joe treated the kids and that's okay... but otherwise yes, without Joe we wouldn't know the Jackson 5 and we wouldn't know Michael Jackson.Maybe you think we're all little kids here, but I think you're behaviour is not really better..sorry for that but that's how I think about. And if we waste your time...then okay, why you're still here?
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"I total agree, we should respect the Jackson family. Especially Katherine. The only thing I do not agree I don't respect and which I am strongly against is Joe Jackson beating Michael when he was a child. Michael was afraid of him. No parent has the right to beat up a child, especially because he doesn't perform to Joe's expectations. every child needs discipline, I know I am a mother. I remember MJ doing an interview with Oprah at his Neverland Ranch. He said something about his father and he said "Oh no. I am sorry Joe, please do not get angry".. Oprah opened her eyes wide open.. Meaning wow you are afraid of your father.. Even as an adult he was afraid of his father, that is not normal.In your opinion is that ok for a child to be afraid of a parent? Would you be able to live like that?? I know I can't. Also when Mj died on June 25 2009 they interviewed Joe and he was promoting his new business. I am writing this, to make you understand why people do not respect Joe Jackson, and the family. I am a humanitarian, I respect everyone, I tried to understand why some people do what they do, and let it be.. My motto is LIVE AND LET LIVE...ALRIGHT NOW! No parent have the right to spank a child? well i guess no wonder there is so many kids killing their parents while they sleep and so many of them are juvenile and so many of them doing drug and are muderers starting age 4so many of them are on the path to hell. cause they ain't got no good parents to discipline them. the next thing you know my tax dollars goes to pay for the juvenile center to straighten up your kids.because you are not good enough of a mother and don't have enough guts to straight your kids yourself. ain't no body willl tell me not to spank my child my mother spanked me and thank God it help me stay on the right path, does that make her a bad mother michael was shooting shoes at his father it's not like he was an angel he never been and never will be an angel, he always stood up to his father they both were beating the hell out of each other cause mj was always fighting back, so don't sit there acting like MJ is JESUS cause he ain't even Jesus would have told him to respect his father and one of the reason why he went through hell it's because of the disrespect that he showed his dad. the bible says HONOR TY FATHER AND THOU SHALL BE BLESSED AND LIVE A LONG LIFE.MJ knew that he father loves him and no matter what he did his father would still be there to support him.FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE TO GIVE CREDIT TO HIS FATHER FOR HIM BECOMING THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER IN THE WORLD.Without his father he would be NOTHING even with the RAW talent that GOD HAS GIVEN HIM his father's Job was to POLISH THAT TALENT and remove the so called fake sensisivity that MJ used to portray himself in the public eyes in order to gain sympathy. do not think for a minute that MJ is an ANGEL as much as i love him MJ is extremely calculative, and manipulative , you do not last so long in HOLLYWWOD WITHOUT HAVING GAME.i AM NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE MJ IS A TOTAL SAINT CAUSE HE SAID IT HIMSELF. and i quote:" I AM NOT A DEMON BUT I AM NOT AN ANGEL EITHER " AS FAR AS SPANKING IS CONCERNED, THANK GOD FOR IT.Cause because of it, i ain't doing none of what i am not supposed to do.JOE JACKSON DID WHAT ANY FATHER WHO LOVES HIS CHIOLD IS SUPPOSED TO DO AND BECAUSE OF THAT NON OF THEM JACKSON KIDS WENT TO THE PENN.JOE JACKSON IS NOT PERFECT EVERY FATHER MAKES MISTAKE.IF YOU THINK FOR A MINUTES THAT EVERY WORD THAT CAME OUT OF MICHAEL'S MOUTH IS THE TRUTH THEN I GOT NEWS FOR YOU. MJ LIES THROUGH HIS TEETH.AND IF YOU THINK THAT HE NEVER DISCIPLINED HIS CHILDREN, THEN THINK AGAIN. AND I STAND BY EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE POST THAT WAS DELETED. SOME FANS HERE DISGUST ME THEY ALWAYS WANT TO SEPARATE MICHAEL FROM HIS FAMILY BECAUSE HIS FAMILY REMINDS THEM THAT HE IS BLACK PERIOD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAY JOE RAISED HIS KIDS THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.DON'T DENY IT , FACE THE MUSIC.DO YOU KNOW THE DEFINITION OF SPANKING AND BEATING? I DON'T BECAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN'T WRITE THIS.. I GOT SPANKED ALSO WHEN I WAS A CHILD SO I DID SPANK MY KIDS, BUT NEVER BEATEN THEM NOR KICKED THEM IN THE CROTCH LIKE JOE DID.. SO BEFORE YOU WRITE LOOK AT THE FACTSi don't need a child to lecture me about what spanking and beating means..
Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"I total agree, we should respect the Jackson family. Especially Katherine. The only thing I do not agree I don't respect and which I am strongly against is Joe Jackson beating Michael when he was a child. Michael was afraid of him. No parent has the right to beat up a child, especially because he doesn't perform to Joe's expectations. every child needs discipline, I know I am a mother. I remember MJ doing an interview with Oprah at his Neverland Ranch. He said something about his father and he said "Oh no. I am sorry Joe, please do not get angry".. Oprah opened her eyes wide open.. Meaning wow you are afraid of your father.. Even as an adult he was afraid of his father, that is not normal.In your opinion is that ok for a child to be afraid of a parent? Would you be able to live like that?? I know I can't. Also when Mj died on June 25 2009 they interviewed Joe and he was promoting his new business. I am writing this, to make you understand why people do not respect Joe Jackson, and the family. I am a humanitarian, I respect everyone, I tried to understand why some people do what they do, and let it be.. My motto is LIVE AND LET LIVE...ALRIGHT NOW! No parent have the right to spank a child? well i guess no wonder there is so many kids killing their parents while they sleep and so many of them are juvenile and so many of them doing drug and are muderers starting age 4so many of them are on the path to hell. cause they ain't got no good parents to discipline them. the next thing you know my tax dollars goes to pay for the juvenile center to straighten up your kids.because you are not good enough of a mother and don't have enough guts to straight your kids yourself. ain't no body willl tell me not to spank my child my mother spanked me and thank God it help me stay on the right path, does that make her a bad mother michael was shooting shoes at his father it's not like he was an angel he never been and never will be an angel, he always stood up to his father they both were beating the hell out of each other cause mj was always fighting back, so don't sit there acting like MJ is JESUS cause he ain't even Jesus would have told him to respect his father and one of the reason why he went through hell it's because of the disrespect that he showed his dad. the bible says HONOR TY FATHER AND THOU SHALL BE BLESSED AND LIVE A LONG LIFE.MJ knew that he father loves him and no matter what he did his father would still be there to support him.FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE TO GIVE CREDIT TO HIS FATHER FOR HIM BECOMING THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER IN THE WORLD.Without his father he would be NOTHING even with the RAW talent that GOD HAS GIVEN HIM his father's Job was to POLISH THAT TALENT and remove the so called fake sensisivity that MJ used to portray himself in the public eyes in order to gain sympathy. do not think for a minute that MJ is an ANGEL as much as i love him MJ is extremely calculative, and manipulative , you do not last so long in HOLLYWWOD WITHOUT HAVING GAME.i AM NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE MJ IS A TOTAL SAINT CAUSE HE SAID IT HIMSELF. and i quote:" I AM NOT A DEMON BUT I AM NOT AN ANGEL EITHER " AS FAR AS SPANKING IS CONCERNED, THANK GOD FOR IT.Cause because of it, i ain't doing none of what i am not supposed to do.JOE JACKSON DID WHAT ANY FATHER WHO LOVES HIS CHIOLD IS SUPPOSED TO DO AND BECAUSE OF THAT NON OF THEM JACKSON KIDS WENT TO THE PENN.JOE JACKSON IS NOT PERFECT EVERY FATHER MAKES MISTAKE.IF YOU THINK FOR A MINUTES THAT EVERY WORD THAT CAME OUT OF MICHAEL'S MOUTH IS THE TRUTH THEN I GOT NEWS FOR YOU. MJ LIES THROUGH HIS TEETH.AND IF YOU THINK THAT HE NEVER DISCIPLINED HIS CHILDREN, THEN THINK AGAIN. AND I STAND BY EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE POST THAT WAS DELETED. SOME FANS HERE DISGUST ME THEY ALWAYS WANT TO SEPARATE MICHAEL FROM HIS FAMILY BECAUSE HIS FAMILY REMINDS THEM THAT HE IS BLACK PERIOD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAY JOE RAISED HIS KIDS THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.DON'T DENY IT , FACE THE MUSIC.DO YOU KNOW THE DEFINITION OF SPANKING AND BEATING? I DON'T BECAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN'T WRITE THIS.. I GOT SPANKED ALSO WHEN I WAS A CHILD SO I DID SPANK MY KIDS, BUT NEVER BEATEN THEM NOR KICKED THEM IN THE CROTCH LIKE JOE DID.. SO BEFORE YOU WRITE LOOK AT THE FACTS
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"I total agree, we should respect the Jackson family. Especially Katherine. The only thing I do not agree I don't respect and which I am strongly against is Joe Jackson beating Michael when he was a child. Michael was afraid of him. No parent has the right to beat up a child, especially because he doesn't perform to Joe's expectations. every child needs discipline, I know I am a mother. I remember MJ doing an interview with Oprah at his Neverland Ranch. He said something about his father and he said "Oh no. I am sorry Joe, please do not get angry".. Oprah opened her eyes wide open.. Meaning wow you are afraid of your father.. Even as an adult he was afraid of his father, that is not normal.In your opinion is that ok for a child to be afraid of a parent? Would you be able to live like that?? I know I can't. Also when Mj died on June 25 2009 they interviewed Joe and he was promoting his new business. I am writing this, to make you understand why people do not respect Joe Jackson, and the family. I am a humanitarian, I respect everyone, I tried to understand why some people do what they do, and let it be.. My motto is LIVE AND LET LIVE...ALRIGHT NOW! No parent have the right to spank a child? well i guess no wonder there is so many kids killing their parents while they sleep and so many of them are juvenile and so many of them doing drug and are muderers starting age 4so many of them are on the path to hell. cause they ain't got no good parents to discipline them. the next thing you know my tax dollars goes to pay for the juvenile center to straighten up your kids.because you are not good enough of a mother and don't have enough guts to straight your kids yourself. ain't no body willl tell me not to spank my child my mother spanked me and thank God it help me stay on the right path, does that make her a bad mother michael was shooting shoes at his father it's not like he was an angel he never been and never will be an angel, he always stood up to his father they both were beating the hell out of each other cause mj was always fighting back, so don't sit there acting like MJ is JESUS cause he ain't even Jesus would have told him to respect his father and one of the reason why he went through hell it's because of the disrespect that he showed his dad. the bible says HONOR TY FATHER AND THOU SHALL BE BLESSED AND LIVE A LONG LIFE.MJ knew that he father loves him and no matter what he did his father would still be there to support him.FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE TO GIVE CREDIT TO HIS FATHER FOR HIM BECOMING THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER IN THE WORLD.Without his father he would be NOTHING even with the RAW talent that GOD HAS GIVEN HIM his father's Job was to POLISH THAT TALENT and remove the so called fake sensisivity that MJ used to portray himself in the public eyes in order to gain sympathy. do not think for a minute that MJ is an ANGEL as much as i love him MJ is extremely calculative, and manipulative , you do not last so long in HOLLYWWOD WITHOUT HAVING GAME.i AM NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE MJ IS A TOTAL SAINT CAUSE HE SAID IT HIMSELF. and i quote:" I AM NOT A DEMON BUT I AM NOT AN ANGEL EITHER " AS FAR AS SPANKING IS CONCERNED, THANK GOD FOR IT.Cause because of it, i ain't doing none of what i am not supposed to do.JOE JACKSON DID WHAT ANY FATHER WHO LOVES HIS CHIOLD IS SUPPOSED TO DO AND BECAUSE OF THAT NON OF THEM JACKSON KIDS WENT TO THE PENN.JOE JACKSON IS NOT PERFECT EVERY FATHER MAKES MISTAKE.IF YOU THINK FOR A MINUTES THAT EVERY WORD THAT CAME OUT OF MICHAEL'S MOUTH IS THE TRUTH THEN I GOT NEWS FOR YOU. MJ LIES THROUGH HIS TEETH.AND IF YOU THINK THAT HE NEVER DISCIPLINED HIS CHILDREN, THEN THINK AGAIN. AND I STAND BY EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE POST THAT WAS DELETED. SOME FANS HERE DISGUST ME THEY ALWAYS WANT TO SEPARATE MICHAEL FROM HIS FAMILY BECAUSE HIS FAMILY REMINDS THEM THAT HE IS BLACK PERIOD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAY JOE RAISED HIS KIDS THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.DON'T DENY IT , FACE THE MUSIC.
I total agree, we should respect the Jackson family. Especially Katherine. The only thing I do not agree I don't respect and which I am strongly against is Joe Jackson beating Michael when he was a child. Michael was afraid of him. No parent has the right to beat up a child, especially because he doesn't perform to Joe's expectations. every child needs discipline, I know I am a mother. I remember MJ doing an interview with Oprah at his Neverland Ranch. He said something about his father and he said "Oh no. I am sorry Joe, please do not get angry".. Oprah opened her eyes wide open.. Meaning wow you are afraid of your father.. Even as an adult he was afraid of his father, that is not normal.In your opinion is that ok for a child to be afraid of a parent? Would you be able to live like that?? I know I can't. Also when Mj died on June 25 2009 they interviewed Joe and he was promoting his new business. I am writing this, to make you understand why people do not respect Joe Jackson, and the family. I am a humanitarian, I respect everyone, I tried to understand why some people do what they do, and let it be.. My motto is LIVE AND LET LIVE...
Quote from: "Kirsche"Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"I total agree, we should respect the Jackson family. Especially Katherine. The only thing I do not agree I don't respect and which I am strongly against is Joe Jackson beating Michael when he was a child. Michael was afraid of him. No parent has the right to beat up a child, especially because he doesn't perform to Joe's expectations. every child needs discipline, I know I am a mother. I remember MJ doing an interview with Oprah at his Neverland Ranch. He said something about his father and he said "Oh no. I am sorry Joe, please do not get angry".. Oprah opened her eyes wide open.. Meaning wow you are afraid of your father.. Even as an adult he was afraid of his father, that is not normal.In your opinion is that ok for a child to be afraid of a parent? Would you be able to live like that?? I know I can't. Also when Mj died on June 25 2009 they interviewed Joe and he was promoting his new business. I am writing this, to make you understand why people do not respect Joe Jackson, and the family. I am a humanitarian, I respect everyone, I tried to understand why some people do what they do, and let it be.. My motto is LIVE AND LET LIVE...ALRIGHT NOW! No parent have the right to spank a child? well i guess no wonder there is so many kids killing their parents while they sleep and so many of them are juvenile and so many of them doing drug and are muderers starting age 4so many of them are on the path to hell. cause they ain't got no good parents to discipline them. the next thing you know my tax dollars goes to pay for the juvenile center to straighten up your kids.because you are not good enough of a mother and don't have enough guts to straight your kids yourself. ain't no body willl tell me not to spank my child my mother spanked me and thank God it help me stay on the right path, does that make her a bad mother michael was shooting shoes at his father it's not like he was an angel he never been and never will be an angel, he always stood up to his father they both were beating the hell out of each other cause mj was always fighting back, so don't sit there acting like MJ is JESUS cause he ain't even Jesus would have told him to respect his father and one of the reason why he went through hell it's because of the disrespect that he showed his dad. the bible says HONOR TY FATHER AND THOU SHALL BE BLESSED AND LIVE A LONG LIFE.MJ knew that he father loves him and no matter what he did his father would still be there to support him.FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE TO GIVE CREDIT TO HIS FATHER FOR HIM BECOMING THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER IN THE WORLD.Without his father he would be NOTHING even with the RAW talent that GOD HAS GIVEN HIM his father's Job was to POLISH THAT TALENT and remove the so called fake sensisivity that MJ used to portray himself in the public eyes in order to gain sympathy. do not think for a minute that MJ is an ANGEL as much as i love him MJ is extremely calculative, and manipulative , you do not last so long in HOLLYWWOD WITHOUT HAVING GAME.i AM NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE MJ IS A TOTAL SAINT CAUSE HE SAID IT HIMSELF. and i quote:" I AM NOT A DEMON BUT I AM NOT AN ANGEL EITHER " AS FAR AS SPANKING IS CONCERNED, THANK GOD FOR IT.Cause because of it, i ain't doing none of what i am not supposed to do.JOE JACKSON DID WHAT ANY FATHER WHO LOVES HIS CHIOLD IS SUPPOSED TO DO AND BECAUSE OF THAT NON OF THEM JACKSON KIDS WENT TO THE PENN.JOE JACKSON IS NOT PERFECT EVERY FATHER MAKES MISTAKE.IF YOU THINK FOR A MINUTES THAT EVERY WORD THAT CAME OUT OF MICHAEL'S MOUTH IS THE TRUTH THEN I GOT NEWS FOR YOU. MJ LIES THROUGH HIS TEETH.AND IF YOU THINK THAT HE NEVER DISCIPLINED HIS CHILDREN, THEN THINK AGAIN. AND I STAND BY EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE POST THAT WAS DELETED. SOME FANS HERE DISGUST ME THEY ALWAYS WANT TO SEPARATE MICHAEL FROM HIS FAMILY BECAUSE HIS FAMILY REMINDS THEM THAT HE IS BLACK PERIOD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAY JOE RAISED HIS KIDS THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.DON'T DENY IT , FACE THE MUSIC.DO YOU KNOW THE DEFINITION OF SPANKING AND BEATING? I DON'T BECAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN'T WRITE THIS.. I GOT SPANKED ALSO WHEN I WAS A CHILD SO I DID SPANK MY KIDS, BUT NEVER BEATEN THEM NOR KICKED THEM IN THE CROTCH LIKE JOE DID.. SO BEFORE YOU WRITE LOOK AT THE FACTSi don't need a child to lecture me about what spanking and beating means..Sorry but why do you think you're so grown up? you don't really behave like that.... Even if it IS a child who tells you that, is it wrong? I don't think so.... It is okay, that you have your own opinion but you don't need to attack other people, just because they have different opinions...And nobody hates the family...especially not of their skin colour??!!Some ppl just don't like it how Joe treated the kids and that's okay... but otherwise yes, without Joe we wouldn't know the Jackson 5 and we wouldn't know Michael Jackson.Maybe you think we're all little kids here, but I think you're behaviour is not really better..sorry for that but that's how I think about. And if we waste your time...then okay, why you're still here?child keep your lecture to yourself i don't need it.
and whos fault is that ? I'm sorry for the bash before, but I got angry, cause I'm really not a racist
Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "Kirsche"Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"Quote from: "DOITNOWMJ"Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"I total agree, we should respect the Jackson family. Especially Katherine. The only thing I do not agree I don't respect and which I am strongly against is Joe Jackson beating Michael when he was a child. Michael was afraid of him. No parent has the right to beat up a child, especially because he doesn't perform to Joe's expectations. every child needs discipline, I know I am a mother. I remember MJ doing an interview with Oprah at his Neverland Ranch. He said something about his father and he said "Oh no. I am sorry Joe, please do not get angry".. Oprah opened her eyes wide open.. Meaning wow you are afraid of your father.. Even as an adult he was afraid of his father, that is not normal.In your opinion is that ok for a child to be afraid of a parent? Would you be able to live like that?? I know I can't. Also when Mj died on June 25 2009 they interviewed Joe and he was promoting his new business. I am writing this, to make you understand why people do not respect Joe Jackson, and the family. I am a humanitarian, I respect everyone, I tried to understand why some people do what they do, and let it be.. My motto is LIVE AND LET LIVE...ALRIGHT NOW! No parent have the right to spank a child? well i guess no wonder there is so many kids killing their parents while they sleep and so many of them are juvenile and so many of them doing drug and are muderers starting age 4so many of them are on the path to hell. cause they ain't got no good parents to discipline them. the next thing you know my tax dollars goes to pay for the juvenile center to straighten up your kids.because you are not good enough of a mother and don't have enough guts to straight your kids yourself. ain't no body willl tell me not to spank my child my mother spanked me and thank God it help me stay on the right path, does that make her a bad mother michael was shooting shoes at his father it's not like he was an angel he never been and never will be an angel, he always stood up to his father they both were beating the hell out of each other cause mj was always fighting back, so don't sit there acting like MJ is JESUS cause he ain't even Jesus would have told him to respect his father and one of the reason why he went through hell it's because of the disrespect that he showed his dad. the bible says HONOR TY FATHER AND THOU SHALL BE BLESSED AND LIVE A LONG LIFE.MJ knew that he father loves him and no matter what he did his father would still be there to support him.FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE TO GIVE CREDIT TO HIS FATHER FOR HIM BECOMING THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER IN THE WORLD.Without his father he would be NOTHING even with the RAW talent that GOD HAS GIVEN HIM his father's Job was to POLISH THAT TALENT and remove the so called fake sensisivity that MJ used to portray himself in the public eyes in order to gain sympathy. do not think for a minute that MJ is an ANGEL as much as i love him MJ is extremely calculative, and manipulative , you do not last so long in HOLLYWWOD WITHOUT HAVING GAME.i AM NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE MJ IS A TOTAL SAINT CAUSE HE SAID IT HIMSELF. and i quote:" I AM NOT A DEMON BUT I AM NOT AN ANGEL EITHER " AS FAR AS SPANKING IS CONCERNED, THANK GOD FOR IT.Cause because of it, i ain't doing none of what i am not supposed to do.JOE JACKSON DID WHAT ANY FATHER WHO LOVES HIS CHIOLD IS SUPPOSED TO DO AND BECAUSE OF THAT NON OF THEM JACKSON KIDS WENT TO THE PENN.JOE JACKSON IS NOT PERFECT EVERY FATHER MAKES MISTAKE.IF YOU THINK FOR A MINUTES THAT EVERY WORD THAT CAME OUT OF MICHAEL'S MOUTH IS THE TRUTH THEN I GOT NEWS FOR YOU. MJ LIES THROUGH HIS TEETH.AND IF YOU THINK THAT HE NEVER DISCIPLINED HIS CHILDREN, THEN THINK AGAIN. AND I STAND BY EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE POST THAT WAS DELETED. SOME FANS HERE DISGUST ME THEY ALWAYS WANT TO SEPARATE MICHAEL FROM HIS FAMILY BECAUSE HIS FAMILY REMINDS THEM THAT HE IS BLACK PERIOD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAY JOE RAISED HIS KIDS THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.DON'T DENY IT , FACE THE MUSIC.DO YOU KNOW THE DEFINITION OF SPANKING AND BEATING? I DON'T BECAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN'T WRITE THIS.. I GOT SPANKED ALSO WHEN I WAS A CHILD SO I DID SPANK MY KIDS, BUT NEVER BEATEN THEM NOR KICKED THEM IN THE CROTCH LIKE JOE DID.. SO BEFORE YOU WRITE LOOK AT THE FACTSi don't need a child to lecture me about what spanking and beating means..Sorry but why do you think you're so grown up? you don't really behave like that.... Even if it IS a child who tells you that, is it wrong? I don't think so.... It is okay, that you have your own opinion but you don't need to attack other people, just because they have different opinions...And nobody hates the family...especially not of their skin colour??!!Some ppl just don't like it how Joe treated the kids and that's okay... but otherwise yes, without Joe we wouldn't know the Jackson 5 and we wouldn't know Michael Jackson.Maybe you think we're all little kids here, but I think you're behaviour is not really better..sorry for that but that's how I think about. And if we waste your time...then okay, why you're still here?child keep your lecture to yourself i don't need it.Then why you read it ? :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Okay, MOM, I do it like you said :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG just ridiculous :roll:
Quote from: "Tina K."and whos fault is that ? I'm sorry for the bash before, but I got angry, cause I'm really not a racist Noone thinks here you're a racist!!!! If someone here would be a racist, he/ she wouldn't be here...Just don't give a damn about it
They are playing some big parts , yes. I dont know if the slip ups are on purpose, if they are, wow! what a giant work it must have been / is, to keep it going. And that deserve respect.
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