Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

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Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 02, 2010, 09:12:59 PM
This is going around Facebook at the moment.

Geraldine Hughes has backed the claims up:

I HAVE HAD AN ANONYMOUS LETTER,, WHAT DO I DO WITH IT,, THE PERSON HAS DELETED PROFILE AND DISAPPEARED!!!
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Before MJ's Death 24th June MJ & Murray Had A Huge Argument & MJ Told Murray He Was Gonna Be Fired After The Shows (A Member Of Family Heard This) & Obviously Murray Didn't Like That He Wanted To Become Famous So That Night He Filled The Needle Right Up Too The Top With Prophavol & Injected Him! The Reason Why Murray Waited 45Mins To Call 911 Was Because He Wanted To Make Sure He Was Dead
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I HAVE JUST SPOKEN WITH GERALDINE HUGHES, THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED, THERE WAS ARGUMENT BETWEEN MURRY AND MJ,,,, THIS IS MURDER,,


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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 02, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
WoW!!  How come thid information is just now coming out ?  This story is getting stranger by the minute.  I believe that the family wants everyone to believe it is a conspiracy and Murray is just the
scape goat, so they can cover how the act about him.  I mean if Murray did what he did to Michael with a member of my family I would stop at nothong to achieve justice.  I would be picketing and having letters
from people, petitions and so on.  Just think with all their power they have done relatively very little to seek out justice for Michael.  Don't you think ?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 02, 2010, 11:21:33 PM
I'm lost, who is Geraldine Hughes?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 02, 2010, 11:41:55 PM
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I'm lost, who is Geraldine Hughes?

right...who's Geraldine Hughes and why now? Sorry but I don't believe this. If Dr Murray wanted to become famous, killing Michael wasn't exactly going to make it any better.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 02, 2010, 11:47:14 PM
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I'm lost, who is Geraldine Hughes?

right...who's Geraldine Hughes and why now? Sorry but I don't believe this. If Dr Murray wanted to become famous, killing Michael wasn't exactly going to make it any better.

I second that. :?
And I also would like to know who Miss Hugues is, the name definetly rings a bell but could someone please tell us who she is exacly? What is her connection to Michael?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 02, 2010, 11:53:30 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
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I'm lost, who is Geraldine Hughes?

right...who's Geraldine Hughes and why now? Sorry but I don't believe this. If Dr Murray wanted to become famous, killing Michael wasn't exactly going to make it any better.

well, he got what he wanted (being famous) but not in a good way....
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

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GERALDINE HUGHES > GH ??
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

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GERALDINE HUGHES > GH ??

that's what i'm thinking too....
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

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Why? What is GH?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 12:05:33 AM
hmmmmmm!!! well according to TMZ CM wanted fame.. HL said he talked to people in rehersals that sadi it seemed that way!! but isnt everyone saying CM wasnt there? thats odd!
CM possibly wanted fame, but not by being a murderer..
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 12:06:36 AM
Isn't Geraldine Hughes the woman who was screaming about the truth to the press after Murray's  arraignment?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 12:48:20 AM
Geraldine Hughes is the one who wrote the book Redemption: The Truth Behind the Michael Jackson Child Molestation Allegations. She worked for the lawyer who was hired by the Chandlers and spells out in her book how MJ was setup/framed with those charges.

My main question is this: how would Geraldine Hughes know that Murray and MJ had a fight on the 24th?!
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 12:52:14 AM
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Geraldine Hughes is the one who wrote the book Redemption: The Truth Behind the Michael Jackson Child Molestation Allegations. She worked for the lawyer who was hired by the Chandlers and spells out in her book how MJ was setup/framed with those charges.

My main question is this: how would Geraldine Hughes know that Murray and MJ had a fight on the 24th?!

 :?

I was wondering the exact same thing. :roll:
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 01:23:41 AM
This is crap.
You don't kill the cow you are milking just to be famous of having killed it.
It was said that Doc Murray had not seen one buck of his paycheck yet.
Where is a motivation?

Just one more attention seeker.
I guess I will write an anonymous letter to GH about the lizard story in the bedroom and why Michael had a permanent blue toe and I bet it will be my 5 seconds of fame in the web.
Since even TMZ does not believe in a lizard in the bedroom and a permanent blue toe, I will have little chances however to make it to LA Times and guess I'd not better tweet about this.

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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 05:25:38 AM
Hearsay.
If you do have some important infomation, you don't go around on facebook ranting about it, but you contact the police. I'm not buying this.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 06:47:55 AM
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...Was Gonna Be Fired After The Shows (A Member Of Family Heard This) & Obviously ...

A member of family? We´ve been told that family was kept away from Mike, that even Joe wasn´t aloud to meet his son :?:
And why this "member of family" is been quiet for so long? Why do we hear about it just now?
 BS!
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 02:43:04 PM
WHAT WAS THE FAMILY MEMBER  DOING ALL THESE DAYS N Y DID THEY SPILL BEANS ALL OF A SUDDEN...... MURRAY IS NOT A FOOL TO KILL MJ  JUST FOR AN ARGUMENT N GET FAMOUS THIS WAY......  B.S.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 03:06:12 PM
What about the children = member of family?  Just a thought.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 04:04:16 PM
That s the silliest thing i read so far

If a member of the family had such an important info he would go to the LAPD himself and not ask ppl on Facebook to do so

CM wanted fame......geeeeeeeeeeeeeez....that s the supidest part of the message

This person cant even spell Propofol right after 8 months

And lol @ "please tell no one else"....sure i ll post it on facebook instead

I m not saying: this argument on 24th could be true ....who knows....but this message is definitely fake. Fake and stupid. I really get pissed at those ppl trying to play with the fans. So annoying
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 03, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
FAKE.
I remember reading somewhere MJ & Dr Murray have never even met.

Fact, Dr Murray was at the house at the time of the 911 call, you can hear him in the background of the 911 call. And the 911 call Lat & Long on laptop screen place the call at the rear of MJs house on 6-25.

IMO MJ was long gone, left town, before the ambulance emergency stuff even happened, only decoys & illusion was used at the UCLA & durring ambulance stuff.

Supposidly Murray & MJ have known each other for 6 yrs??
I have searched & searched for a picture of them together, & have found NOTHING.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 04, 2010, 10:11:04 AM
Well, I have a great discucion with my doctor, I inform you that I'm going to fire Michael is a person who distrusts everyone ... if .. the next day after everything that happened, simply allows him "to come and inject Murray ?,... 8-)  :lol:

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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 04, 2010, 11:40:12 AM
Murray doesn't strike me down as a revengeful person, but if this is true, it's terrible. I would be so angry to say the least.

But I have my doubts about the whole "news," why now and why isn't it in the news?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 04, 2010, 01:51:24 PM
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FAKE.
I remember reading somewhere MJ & Dr Murray have never even met.

Fact, Dr Murray was at the house at the time of the 911 call, you can hear him in the background of the 911 call. And the 911 call Lat & Long on laptop screen place the call at the rear of MJs house on 6-25.

IMO MJ was long gone, left town, before the ambulance emergency stuff even happened, only decoys & illusion was used at the UCLA & durring ambulance stuff.

Supposidly Murray & MJ have known each other for 6 yrs??
I have searched & searched for a picture of them together, & have found NOTHING.


You know I heard that too...that Murray and MJ never even met each other.....maybe that is why Murray didnt know the address when calling 911???
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 04, 2010, 05:57:52 PM
Hmmm..   Murray and Michael never met.  Thats an interesting theory.

And there was the contract that was not signed by Michael for Murray.  Hmmm....
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 04, 2010, 07:12:40 PM
This story makes no sense. They have an argument  and even so MJ asks the doctor to inject him with anesthetic? Hmm... :?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 04, 2010, 08:39:51 PM
what if they had an argument but the argument was MJ saying he wasn't doing the tour and then Murray got his "orders" and did the deed?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 05, 2010, 10:08:29 PM
Although I doubt Michael would trust someone with his life that he just had an argument with,to give him a drug that could kill him,I do believe Murray murdered him.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 05, 2010, 10:18:57 PM
word, do not bother me. but if you think that Michael is dead, what are you doing here? :!:

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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 05, 2010, 10:34:02 PM
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word, do not bother me. but if you think that Michael is dead, what are you doing here? :!:
I believe he is too, I'm here because I want answers and as far as I know there is no murder forum.  I believe there is a possibility he could have hoaxed but these forums are the best for random info.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 06, 2010, 03:58:11 PM
the argument could have been staged in front of 'witnesses' to support murrays guilt. let's see when that is gonna show up as 'evidence'... :mrgreen:
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 06, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
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FAKE.
I remember reading somewhere MJ & Dr Murray have never even met.

Fact, Dr Murray was at the house at the time of the 911 call, you can hear him in the background of the 911 call. And the 911 call Lat & Long on laptop screen place the call at the rear of MJs house on 6-25.

IMO MJ was long gone, left town, before the ambulance emergency stuff even happened, only decoys & illusion was used at the UCLA & durring ambulance stuff.

Supposidly Murray & MJ have known each other for 6 yrs??
I have searched & searched for a picture of them together, & have found NOTHING.
That is what i have been doing trying to find a picture of the muray and michael together and have not found one yet has anybody else found one.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 07, 2010, 09:29:03 AM
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word, do not bother me. but if you think that Michael is dead, what are you doing here? :!:
 I have a right to believe and feel what I want,and just because you think differently doesn't make your responce more true than mine,and if you keep reading you'll see that I'm not the only who feels this way.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 07, 2010, 09:30:24 AM
ithought cm was mikes personal doctor for the last 3 years
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

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ithought cm was mikes personal doctor for the last 3 years
3 yrs or 6 yrs, regardless the amount of time, MJ is/was a big picture taker, there are plenty of pictures of MJ & Dr Arnie Klein hanging out i.e. Christmas family time together.

But NOTHING, NA DA of MJ & CM, & I find that really strange.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 07, 2010, 01:22:58 PM
word, I do not see why you bother, I'm just making a question, besides I never bothered with anyone on this forum for thinking differently to me .. and in no way have criticized his position.

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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 07, 2010, 08:58:28 PM
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...Was Gonna Be Fired After The Shows (A Member Of Family Heard This) & Obviously ...

A member of family? We´ve been told that family was kept away from Mike, that even Joe wasn´t aloud to meet his son :?:
And why this "member of family" is been quiet for so long? Why do we hear about it just now?
 BS!


This is simple.  His family members would not want to spill the beans to protect the integrity of any informaion they may have.  I think it was his brother Randy who once brought a doctor to help Michael that he had never met when he had a sudden medical problem. This wouldn't be completely unheard of, or hard to believe. IMO... Not saying this is the case in this case..  I dunno...

At that time it was done to keep the tabloids at bay, and that makes sense in this situation with a big comeback in the works, and insurance companies being involved.  The difference between then and now would be... Who called the doc?   MJ's family stated that they couldn't get anywhere near him...
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 08, 2010, 12:06:40 AM
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word, I do not see why you bother, I'm just making a question, besides I never bothered with anyone on this forum for thinking differently to me .. and in no way have criticized his position.

Whateva,bother me when you start making sense,otherwise don't bother,peace
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 08, 2010, 04:08:01 AM
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This is crap.
You don't kill the cow you are milking just to be famous of having killed it.
It was said that Doc Murray had not seen one buck of his paycheck yet.
Where is a motivation?

Just one more attention seeker.
I guess I will write an anonymous letter to GH about the lizard story in the bedroom and why Michael had a permanent blue toe and I bet it will be my 5 seconds of fame in the web.
Since even TMZ does not believe in a lizard in the bedroom and a permanent blue toe, I will have little chances however to make it to LA Times and guess I'd not better tweet about this.

;-)

Well said, this is BS. Googled Geraldine H.There is quite a lot about her; for example;

http://mjthekingofpop.wordpress.com/200 ... l-jackson/
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 08, 2010, 05:34:35 AM
why would mike wait until after the shows, the shows had a break over christmas as well and where to be global so why wait, there were other doctors
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 09, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
Michael's life was riddled with lies, rumors, and innuendos. With so many knowing how this type of thing pained him, I'm amazed at how quickly some are willing to latch onto some unsubstantiated rumor. I say this with L.O.V.E.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 10, 2010, 03:33:48 PM
Just lately i have been thinking about what Murrays defence is going to be.

Someone on another thread has stated "self defence" is on the cards.

Think about it.  I mean, really think about that one....   and then think about the reason why this is being bandied about now...
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 10, 2010, 04:45:32 PM
Although I am a lawyer i can`t see any "self defense" here.Can someone explain, please?
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 10, 2010, 04:49:32 PM
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Although I am a lawyer i can`t see any "self defense" here.Can someone explain, please?

Well..   we dont know, do we?  We will have to wait to see what Murray comes up with in court.   He must think he has a defence, somehow.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 10, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Although I am a lawyer i can`t see any "self defense" here.Can someone explain, please?
It's about peculiar codes for "probable crime" filled in at the searchwarrants:
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=6884
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 10, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
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Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Although I am a lawyer i can`t see any "self defense" here.Can someone explain, please?
It's about peculiar codes for "probable crime" filled in at the searchwarrants:
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=6884

Raven..  interesting that you brought this up on the other thread..  because i then immediately thought of this thread and how it ties in.

Hmm..  interesting to say the least.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 10, 2010, 04:59:22 PM
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Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Although I am a lawyer i can`t see any "self defense" here.Can someone explain, please?
It's about peculiar codes for "probable crime" filled in at the searchwarrants:
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=6884

Raven..  interesting that you brought this up on the other thread..  because i then immediately thought of this thread and how it ties in.

Hmm..  interesting to say the least.
Yes...it does however support the murder/conspiracy theory which in turn leads up to the WPP theory.

Another thing, items found in Murray's car were :
-business card with the name of Brandon Phillips
-envelope with misc writing
-contract with the name of Conrad Murray

contract could have been an issue of arguement
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 15, 2010, 06:55:19 AM
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I'm lost, who is Geraldine Hughes?

right...who's Geraldine Hughes and why now? Sorry but I don't believe this. If Dr Murray wanted to become famous, killing Michael wasn't exactly going to make it any better.

Who would want to be the person who killed MJ? Your life would be misery. You would have to hide from people all the time. Never knowing if a fan had spotted you and wanted revenge.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 16, 2010, 06:08:52 PM
I don't believe this story, it's GARBAGE again!
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 16, 2010, 07:01:22 PM
I don´t even belive they ever met if this is a hoax.

PS: We have to start saying ITIAH (if this is a hoax)
      Ah! HAITI backwards!!! I´m freaking out now :lol:
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 24, 2010, 12:35:39 AM
Michael is keeping himself out there and still taking the public/media temperature..only this time using a rectal thermometer ! lol
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 24, 2010, 07:10:42 PM
I hope this ain't true...... :( .....
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 25, 2010, 08:03:12 AM
Geraldine also claims, that the securities (prob. Alvarez and Amir) told, Murray wasn't there, because he visited a prostitute that night.
She said it on facebook and on amazon.com.

"Conrad Murder put MJ under propofol and then left the premises to meet with a call girl. When he returned, MJ was already dead. Everything he did afterwards was to cover his tracks. He said he found MJ not breathing at 10:50. His girlfriend said she was on the phone with him at 12:05 and at 12:13 he dropped the phone and began CPR on MJ. Why did he instruct his employees to take boxes out of storage at 9:00 a.m.?"

Here's the discussion about this at MJHD.net - somewhere in this thread are links to her posts.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =49&t=4216

Well, I think she wants to promote her book.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 25, 2010, 10:45:16 AM
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FAKE.
I remember reading somewhere MJ & Dr Murray have never even met.

Fact, Dr Murray was at the house at the time of the 911 call, you can hear him in the background of the 911 call. And the 911 call Lat & Long on laptop screen place the call at the rear of MJs house on 6-25.

IMO MJ was long gone, left town, before the ambulance emergency stuff even happened, only decoys & illusion was used at the UCLA & durring ambulance stuff.

Supposidly Murray & MJ have known each other for 6 yrs??
I have searched & searched for a picture of them together, & have found NOTHING.


You know I heard that too...that Murray and MJ never even met each other.....maybe that is why Murray didnt know the address when calling 911???

BTW, it was the Unmentionable (whose name has a B, an O, and a W) who said so.
Hope this comment won´t close this thread.
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Re: Murray and Michael had an Argument on June 24th

  • on: March 26, 2010, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Geraldine also claims, that the securities (prob. Alvarez and Amir) told, Murray wasn't there, because he visited a prostitute that night.
She said it on facebook and on amazon.com.

"Conrad Murder put MJ under propofol and then left the premises to meet with a call girl. When he returned, MJ was already dead. Everything he did afterwards was to cover his tracks. He said he found MJ not breathing at 10:50. His girlfriend said she was on the phone with him at 12:05 and at 12:13 he dropped the phone and began CPR on MJ. Why did he instruct his employees to take boxes out of storage at 9:00 a.m.?"

Here's the discussion about this at MJHD.net - somewhere in this thread are links to her posts.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =49&t=4216

Well, I think she wants to promote her book.

IMO, this dont make any sense what so ever. If Murray found Michael at 10:50 not breathing then why on earth would he drop the phone at 12:13 to begin cpr? Why would it be so urgent almost an hour and a half later since he found MJ not breathing? And yes there is also at 9:00 am when he gave the instructions to remove evidence of something he was not yet aware of!?!   Oh yeah I get it completely now what happpened, it's clear as mud!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :?
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