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U PEOPLE!!..u r definitly not understanding what this all about!!!..MJ is not going to do anymore shows, no more albums, no nothing..that type of life we know about him is over!!.get over it!!....if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason....if he comeback and start to do shows the whole world is gonna be against him...he IS happy now..he's living the life he deserves and we most be happy for him...so seriously get over it!!... :|
Quote from: "reyferrari"U PEOPLE!!..u r definitly not understanding what this all about!!!..MJ is not going to do anymore shows, no more albums, no nothing..that type of life we know about him is over!!.get over it!!....if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason....if he comeback and start to do shows the whole world is gonna be against him...he IS happy now..he's living the life he deserves and we most be happy for him...so seriously get over it!!... :| I think Michael is delivering a grand message on many levels. Yes, it is serious! But he will comeback and finish delivering his message once his mission is accomplished. It's all for love...L.O.V.E. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"Quote from: "reyferrari"U PEOPLE!!..u r definitly not understanding what this all about!!!..MJ is not going to do anymore shows, no more albums, no nothing..that type of life we know about him is over!!.get over it!!....if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason....if he comeback and start to do shows the whole world is gonna be against him...he IS happy now..he's living the life he deserves and we most be happy for him...so seriously get over it!!... :| I think Michael is delivering a grand message on many levels. Yes, it is serious! But he will comeback and finish delivering his message once his mission is accomplished. It's all for love...L.O.V.E. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:First of all i wasnt screaming...when i said '' if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason'', what do u think i was trying to say?..the same thing u already said below..so relax man...i'm in a 100% calm down mode that's for sure!!...im just being realistic, and honestly we all must be!! :ugeek: peace!!
Well, good for u my friend, i respect ur opinion...don't get me wrong, i'll be the first one screaming ''HE'S BACK'' if he does it!!...but at this point, there's so many legal/justice/court/police/investigation things involved that i personaly doubt that MJ would comeback to face all this circus...but i hope i'm wrong! :|
I respect yours, too. I truly do but I disagree with you on every point. I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be. Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie. The kind of movie that had never been done before. Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts. They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008. The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008. Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09. There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates. Allgood sued in May of 2009. This was all Michael's master comeback plan. His death has been the greatest comeback! As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree. There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year. Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time? We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death." Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason. William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October. Conrad Murray is a freemason. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons. Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD. Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything. If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail. The court room appearance was staged by Michael. The court room was set up backwards from protocol. Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom. The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA. The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him. The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges. Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing. The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist. According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner. If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both. It cannot be both. It has to be one or the other. The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out. Therefore, they do not exist. The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website. The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual. Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases. The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist). Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources. EVERYTHING. It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it." The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this". The truth is none of this is really happening. There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request. This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth. I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER! I learned that from Michael himself. The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real. The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table. It was selective footage to make it look real. Michael knows how to play the game. The media did it to him for years! They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe. Michael is doing the same thing now. I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this. However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.
(...)I respect yours, too. I truly do but I disagree with you on every point. I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be. Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie. The kind of movie that had never been done before. Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts. They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008. The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008. Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09. There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates. Allgood sued in May of 2009. This was all Michael's master comeback plan. His death has been the greatest comeback! As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree. There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year. Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time? We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death." Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason. William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October. Conrad Murray is a freemason. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons. Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD. Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything. If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail. The court room appearance was staged by Michael. The court room was set up backwards from protocol. Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom. The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA. The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him. The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges. Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing. The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist. According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner. If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both. It cannot be both. It has to be one or the other. The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out. Therefore, they do not exist. The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website. The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual. Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases. The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist). Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources. EVERYTHING. It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it." The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this". The truth is none of this is really happening. There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request. This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth. I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER! I learned that from Michael himself. The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real. The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table. It was selective footage to make it look real. Michael knows how to play the game. The media did it to him for years! They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe. Michael is doing the same thing now. I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this. However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever" (...)I respect yours, too. I truly do but I disagree with you on every point. I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be. Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie. The kind of movie that had never been done before. Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts. They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008. The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008. Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09. There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates. Allgood sued in May of 2009. This was all Michael's master comeback plan. His death has been the greatest comeback! As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree. There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year. Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time? We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death." Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason. William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October. Conrad Murray is a freemason. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons. Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD. Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything. If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail. The court room appearance was staged by Michael. The court room was set up backwards from protocol. Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom. The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA. The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him. The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges. Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing. The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist. According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner. If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both. It cannot be both. It has to be one or the other. The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out. Therefore, they do not exist. The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website. The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual. Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases. The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist). Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources. EVERYTHING. It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it." The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this". The truth is none of this is really happening. There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request. This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth. I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER! I learned that from Michael himself. The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real. The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table. It was selective footage to make it look real. Michael knows how to play the game. The media did it to him for years! They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe. Michael is doing the same thing now. I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this. However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning. Very interesting! Please go on and on and on for pages and pages.
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