If this is true...Michael will perform on 3th July 2010!!!!!

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Offline SpainMJ

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Hi,

I dont know if this has been already posted... :shock:

Read this, please...I think it's a very big clue. Old clue, but a very good clue.  ;)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/ma ... k-concerts

Do you think this could be real??? The tribute concert could be in TEXAS???

I think that these news are directly veeeeeeery related to the hoax.

(Sorry for my English... :cry: )
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This was written in may 14th-09....
just saying... :roll:
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Quote from: "Jermajesty"
This was written in may 14th-09....
just saying... :roll:

Ok, but i've thought that one of the reasons to not make THIS IS IT could be this. This contract says that Michael was forbidden to perform in 2009.

And it could be related to the tribute concert with his brothers...If this is true, the first performance after BAMSDAY should be on 3th July 2010 in TEXAS, with his brothers.

 ;)
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Quote from: "SpainMJ"
Quote from: "Jermajesty"
This was written in may 14th-09....
just saying... :roll:

Ok, but i've thought that one of the reasons to not make THIS IS IT could be this. This contract says that Michael was forbidden to perform in 2009.

And it could be related to the tribute concert with his brothers...If this is true, the first performance after BAMSDAY should be on 3th July 2010 in TEXAS, with his brothers.

 ;)

could be... who knows?
and if he come back he could do the shows in london with the same tickets of 2009... i´m gonna check the dates!
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http://www.theo2.co.uk/inside/book-now.html?Venue=4

dates are available!!!
who knows.... :?:
i hoppe THIS IS IT! ;)
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Quote from: "CC"
http://www.theo2.co.uk/inside/book-now.html?Venue=4

dates are available!!!
who knows.... :?:
i hoppe THIS IS IT! ;)
OMFG Guys we still may see this show with tickets we bought i still got my two i kept lol!! OMG you think its possible??!!!  :o
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wot about those who got refunds? omg im like hysterical now !!!!!! man i got refunds on two that i was gonna get off fans how does it work i kept two tickets aswell tho HELP!! :shock:
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I don't think this will happen. MJ had to fake his death for very serious reasons. I don't think all of his problems will be solved by july so he can dance around on a stage with his brothers.

I wouldn't mind being wrong though...
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Knowing that the Allgood contract prevented him from performing until 07/03/2010, could the red shirt in TII with the three 7s be a MAJOR clue for us that is not talked about nearly enough?

7 X 3 = 21  (red shirt message in TII)

07/03/2010  (first live concert date after death = family reunion to honor the contract?)

That's just something that has been on my mind for a long time.   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

I also think Michael's return will be on 04/03/10.  This is exactly 7 months from the date of "burial" and is Easter weekend (the day before Easter).  And 4 + 3 = 7, and Janet did her ABC interview in a white Easter dress (after vowing to only wear black) and her final statement in the interview was "I keep waiting for him to call and say Dunk it's me!"  And it is two days before Murray's preliminary hearing (which will NEVER happen) and Easter weekend is the 25th anniversary of the simultaneous broadcast of We Are the World on 8000 radio stations across the globe, AND Michael did show himself to us for one second during the video.   So, those are my thoughts!  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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April 3rd is also Paris birthday!
According to BOW the comeback will be April or June!  Let's see if she's telling the truth! (hope she is :D )
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man im so happy rite now feel much better thanks so much !!!!xxxx
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Great find!!  :D
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Nice find! I find it interesting They talk about how he wasn't supposed to do the concerts and whatnot. Makes me wonder even more if the concerts were really supposed to happen or not. ;)
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U PEOPLE!!..u r definitly not understanding what this all about!!!..MJ is not going to do anymore shows, no more albums, no nothing..that type of life we know about him is over!!.get over it!!....if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason....if he comeback and start to do shows the whole world is gonna be against him...he IS happy now..he's living the life he deserves and we most be happy for him...so seriously get over it!!... :|
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Quote from: "reyferrari"
U PEOPLE!!..u r definitly not understanding what this all about!!!..MJ is not going to do anymore shows, no more albums, no nothing..that type of life we know about him is over!!.get over it!!....if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason....if he comeback and start to do shows the whole world is gonna be against him...he IS happy now..he's living the life he deserves and we most be happy for him...so seriously get over it!!... :|

Excuse me.  I happen to disagree with you but I'm not going to bite your head off over it.  Seriously, calm down man.  I think Michael is delivering a grand message on many levels.  Yes, it is serious!  But he will comeback and finish delivering his message once his mission is accomplished.  That's my take!  And I don't need you screaming for me to get over it!  

It's all for love...L.O.V.E.   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
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U PEOPLE!!..u r definitly not understanding what this all about!!!..MJ is not going to do anymore shows, no more albums, no nothing..that type of life we know about him is over!!.get over it!!....if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason....if he comeback and start to do shows the whole world is gonna be against him...he IS happy now..he's living the life he deserves and we most be happy for him...so seriously get over it!!... :|

  I think Michael is delivering a grand message on many levels.  Yes, it is serious!  But he will comeback and finish delivering his message once his mission is accomplished.  

It's all for love...L.O.V.E.   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
First of all i wasnt screaming...when i said '' if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason'', what do u think i was trying to say?..the same thing u already said below..so relax man...i'm in a 100% calm down mode that's for sure!!...im just being realistic, and honestly we all must be!! :ugeek: peace!!
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Quote from: "reyferrari"
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Quote from: "reyferrari"
U PEOPLE!!..u r definitly not understanding what this all about!!!..MJ is not going to do anymore shows, no more albums, no nothing..that type of life we know about him is over!!.get over it!!....if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason....if he comeback and start to do shows the whole world is gonna be against him...he IS happy now..he's living the life he deserves and we most be happy for him...so seriously get over it!!... :|

  I think Michael is delivering a grand message on many levels.  Yes, it is serious!  But he will comeback and finish delivering his message once his mission is accomplished.  

It's all for love...L.O.V.E.   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
First of all i wasnt screaming...when i said '' if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason'', what do u think i was trying to say?..the same thing u already said below..so relax man...i'm in a 100% calm down mode that's for sure!!...im just being realistic, and honestly we all must be!! :ugeek: peace!!

Well, I'm CERTAIN he is coming back!  There will be criminal doctors in Hollywood prosecuted and probably some other criminals prosecuted within the music industry, but Michael did not go through all this trouble, send us messages during his memorial and funeral, in the movie, etc. with no dates of death published on anything that is copyrighted through Sony or his estate to never return again.  I could write pages and pages about why I am CERTAIN he is coming back, but I don't feel it necessary.  Michael is going to get justice against all those who were out to destroy him and he is going to win.  When his mission has been accomplished, he will come back to savor the victory!  That's my REALISTIC take!   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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Well, I'm CERTAIN he is coming back!  There will be criminal doctors in Hollywood prosecuted and probably some other criminals prosecuted within the music industry, but Michael did not go through all this trouble, send us messages during his memorial and funeral, in the movie, etc. with no dates of death published on anything that is copyrighted through Sony or his estate to never return again.  I could write pages and pages about why I am CERTAIN he is coming back, but I don't feel it necessary.  Michael is going to get justice against all those who were out to destroy him and he is going to win.  When his mission has been accomplished, he will come back to savor the victory!  That's my REALISTIC take!   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:[/quote]
Well, good for u my friend, i respect ur opinion...don't get me wrong, i'll be the first one screaming ''HE'S BACK'' if he does it!!...but at this point, there's so many legal/justice/court/police/investigation things involved that i personaly doubt that MJ would comeback to face all this circus...but i hope i'm wrong! :|  
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As I read the article related to the link provided in this thread, one thing right away stuck out to me.

Remember at the Grammy's, Paris's speach? She said :

Daddy was suppose to perform here, but he couldn't be here last year.

He couldn't be there because of his contract agreement in regard's to the concert he was to deliver along with his family? Maybe? If this is what Paris was reffering to, then that article is true and perhaps the London 02 shows we're never to be.  Hmmm... :?  I think it's something to think about anyway..
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Well, good for u my friend, i respect ur opinion...don't get me wrong, i'll be the first one screaming ''HE'S BACK'' if he does it!!...but at this point, there's so many legal/justice/court/police/investigation things involved that i personaly doubt that MJ would comeback to face all this circus...but i hope i'm wrong! :|  [/quote]

I respect yours, too.  I truly do but I disagree with you on every point.  I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be.  Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie.  The kind of movie that had never been done before.  Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts.  They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008.  The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008.  Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09.  There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates.  Allgood sued in May of 2009.  This was all Michael's master comeback plan.  His death has been the greatest comeback!  As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree.  There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year.  Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time?  We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death."  Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason.  William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October.  Conrad Murray is a freemason.  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons.  Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD.  Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything.  If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail.  The court room appearance was staged by Michael.  The court room was set up backwards from protocol.  Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom.  The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA.  The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him.  The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges.  Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing.  The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist.  According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner.  If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both.  It cannot be both.  It has to be one or the other.  The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out.  Therefore, they do not exist.  The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website.  The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual.  Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases.  The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist).  Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources.  EVERYTHING.  It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it."  The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this".  The truth is none of this is really happening.  There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request.  This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth.  I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER!  I learned that from Michael himself.  The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real.  The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table.  It was selective footage to make it look real.  Michael knows how to play the game.   The media did it to him for years!  They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe.  Michael is doing the same thing now.   I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this.  However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.   :D  :D
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Well, good for u my friend, i respect ur opinion...don't get me wrong, i'll be the first one screaming ''HE'S BACK'' if he does it!!...but at this point, there's so many legal/justice/court/police/investigation things involved that i personaly doubt that MJ would comeback to face all this circus...but i hope i'm wrong! :|  

I respect yours, too.  I truly do but I disagree with you on every point.  I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be.  Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie.  The kind of movie that had never been done before.  Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts.  They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008.  The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008.  Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09.  There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates.  Allgood sued in May of 2009.  This was all Michael's master comeback plan.  His death has been the greatest comeback!  As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree.  There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year.  Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time?  We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death."  Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason.  William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October.  Conrad Murray is a freemason.  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons.  Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD.  Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything.  If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail.  The court room appearance was staged by Michael.  The court room was set up backwards from protocol.  Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom.  The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA.  The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him.  The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges.  Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing.  The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist.  According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner.  If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both.  It cannot be both.  It has to be one or the other.  The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out.  Therefore, they do not exist.  The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website.  The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual.  Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases.  The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist).  Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources.  EVERYTHING.  It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it."  The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this".  The truth is none of this is really happening.  There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request.  This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth.  I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER!  I learned that from Michael himself.  The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real.  The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table.  It was selective footage to make it look real.  Michael knows how to play the game.   The media did it to him for years!  They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe.  Michael is doing the same thing now.   I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this.  However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.   :D  :D[/quote]

 :D  WOW!! You just made my day!! :D

Very interesting facts you just posted, thank you very much. Now that's the type of info I am always looking for.
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Well, good for u my friend, i respect ur opinion...don't get me wrong, i'll be the first one screaming ''HE'S BACK'' if he does it!!...but at this point, there's so many legal/justice/court/police/investigation things involved that i personaly doubt that MJ would comeback to face all this circus...but i hope i'm wrong! :|  

I respect yours, too.  I truly do but I disagree with you on every point.  I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be.  Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie.  The kind of movie that had never been done before.  Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts.  They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008.  The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008.  Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09.  There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates.  Allgood sued in May of 2009.  This was all Michael's master comeback plan.  His death has been the greatest comeback!  As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree.  There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year.  Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time?  We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death."  Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason.  William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October.  Conrad Murray is a freemason.  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons.  Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD.  Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything.  If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail.  The court room appearance was staged by Michael.  The court room was set up backwards from protocol.  Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom.  The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA.  The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him.  The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges.  Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing.  The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist.  According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner.  If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both.  It cannot be both.  It has to be one or the other.  The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out.  Therefore, they do not exist.  The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website.  The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual.  Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases.  The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist).  Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources.  EVERYTHING.  It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it."  The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this".  The truth is none of this is really happening.  There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request.  This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth.  I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER!  I learned that from Michael himself.  The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real.  The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table.  It was selective footage to make it look real.  Michael knows how to play the game.   The media did it to him for years!  They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe.  Michael is doing the same thing now.   I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this.  However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.   :D  :D[/quote]


So truuue !! I just love what you said !! You got the point ! :D
thank you lovemj4everandever =DD now i'm sure he will come back !!
L.O.V.E. <33
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http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/16/michael-j ... n-lawsuit/

An artcile about Michael jackson's perform in Texas TMZ ..mmmhhhhh


And another article ....

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/mic ... 2101.story


BUT WAIT ,IF THE BROTHERS OF MJ WILL BE THE JACKSON 5 FOR THIS CONCERT with Janet and ,for there no-believers,with not MJ  .....THAN IT'S EXPLAIN WHY JANET WILL BE IN THIS CONCERT !!!!

BUT DON'T SAY MICHAEL WILL NOT BE THERE ,IT'S CLEARLY IN THE ARTICLES THAT HE WILL BE THERE  !!!!!!

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I respect yours, too.  I truly do but I disagree with you on every point.  I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be.  Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie.  The kind of movie that had never been done before.  Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts.  They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008.  The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008.  Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09.  There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates.  Allgood sued in May of 2009.  This was all Michael's master comeback plan.  His death has been the greatest comeback!  As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree.  There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year.  Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time?  We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death."  Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason.  William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October.  Conrad Murray is a freemason.  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons.  Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD.  Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything.  If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail.  The court room appearance was staged by Michael.  The court room was set up backwards from protocol.  Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom.  The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA.  The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him.  The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges.  Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing.  The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist.  According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner.  If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both.  It cannot be both.  It has to be one or the other.  The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out.  Therefore, they do not exist.  The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website.  The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual.  Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases.  The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist).  Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources.  EVERYTHING.  It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it."  The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this".  The truth is none of this is really happening.  There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request.  This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth.  I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER!  I learned that from Michael himself.  The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real.  The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table.  It was selective footage to make it look real.  Michael knows how to play the game.   The media did it to him for years!  They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe.  Michael is doing the same thing now.   I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this.  However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.   :D  :D


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I respect yours, too.  I truly do but I disagree with you on every point.  I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be.  Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie.  The kind of movie that had never been done before.  Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts.  They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008.  The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008.  Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09.  There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates.  Allgood sued in May of 2009.  This was all Michael's master comeback plan.  His death has been the greatest comeback!  As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree.  There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year.  Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time?  We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death."  Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason.  William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October.  Conrad Murray is a freemason.  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons.  Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD.  Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything.  If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail.  The court room appearance was staged by Michael.  The court room was set up backwards from protocol.  Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom.  The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA.  The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him.  The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges.  Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing.  The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist.  According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner.  If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both.  It cannot be both.  It has to be one or the other.  The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out.  Therefore, they do not exist.  The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website.  The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual.  Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases.  The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist).  Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources.  EVERYTHING.  It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it."  The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this".  The truth is none of this is really happening.  There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request.  This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth.  I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER!  I learned that from Michael himself.  The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real.  The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table.  It was selective footage to make it look real.  Michael knows how to play the game.   The media did it to him for years!  They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe.  Michael is doing the same thing now.   I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this.  However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.   :D  :D

Very interesting! Please go on and on and on for pages and pages.  :D
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I rang the O2 Arena this morning and said that I wanted to know what events they had on in July and August this year and he replied "emmmmmmmmmm nothing has been booked yet "  WHAT !!!!!!! :o  the busiest time of the year July and August and the biggest music venue NOTHING  ??????
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I respect yours, too.  I truly do but I disagree with you on every point.  I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be.  Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie.  The kind of movie that had never been done before.  Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts.  They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008.  The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008.  Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09.  There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates.  Allgood sued in May of 2009.  This was all Michael's master comeback plan.  His death has been the greatest comeback!  As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree.  There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year.  Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time?  We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death."  Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason.  William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October.  Conrad Murray is a freemason.  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons.  Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD.  Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything.  If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail.  The court room appearance was staged by Michael.  The court room was set up backwards from protocol.  Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom.  The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA.  The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him.  The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges.  Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing.  The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist.  According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner.  If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both.  It cannot be both.  It has to be one or the other.  The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out.  Therefore, they do not exist.  The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website.  The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual.  Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases.  The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist).  Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources.  EVERYTHING.  It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it."  The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this".  The truth is none of this is really happening.  There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request.  This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth.  I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER!  I learned that from Michael himself.  The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real.  The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table.  It was selective footage to make it look real.  Michael knows how to play the game.   The media did it to him for years!  They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe.  Michael is doing the same thing now.   I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this.  However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.   :D  :D

Very interesting! Please go on and on and on for pages and pages.  :D


Okay, I will add a few more paragraphs to my REALISTIC take!  This is from another thread but explains my belief a little further about the whole saga.   I am helen on the LKL blog. :D  :D

This is my interpretation and synopsis of the Jack5ons season finale...

The mind blowing ending is that Michael's death is all a dream. In the first episode Jermaine said "they call me the dreamer". When the footage is shown of Jermaine announcing Michael's death, that footage is shown in slow motion "like a dream." The only other time we see "slow motion" footage in the entire series is in the Finale when the brothers are leaving Jimmy and Terry and wondering what they are going to do without Michael. After that "slow footage" scene, the next thing that happens is he tells Halima about the dream he keeps having. When Jermaine tells the brothers about his dream, that is when they go to Forest Lawn. The whole reality series is about losing their brother and the biggest superstar on earth, but in REALITY, it is all a dream! The question is "what did we all learn from the dream?" To LOVE before it's too late. The final words in the series are "that's what I've learned."

The series started with Jermaine being the "dreamer" and ended with Jermaine telling the brothers about his "dream." Remember the show Dallas from years ago? They did a whole season that was based on a dream and no one knew that until the end of the season.

The new song written for them is "Love Needs A Warning." The "dream" of Michael dying is the warning. The reality series is linked to the movie and They Don't Care Care About Us, Martin Luther King, Jr. I have a "dream." One that will change the world forever and make HIStory. Make that change. Mike's "death" has definitely changed the world forever.

It was a SECRET FINALE that would BLOW YOUR MIND! If you got it, of course! That's my take on it.....

Also, everyone when asked says "it feels like a bad dream" including Firpo Carr, Quincy Jones, Barry Gordy, etc. etc. etc.  It is all a bad dream.  After the season finale Jodi Gomes immediately tweeted "Thank you MLK, Jr. for dreaming" and the next day she tweeted "I never want to wake up from this dream."   Michael's Memorial is listed in the IMDB as "reality TV" rather than news.  Princess Diana's memorial is listed in the IMDB as "news."  AEG produced the memorial and the FUNERAL!  The TII dancers were dressed in custom made Victory tour jackets identical to Marlon's that he wore on the Victory tour.  Michael will return to savor the victory once his mission has been accomplished and he has won!  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

I could still go on for pages and pages and pages...

We love you, Mike! And YES, we will be there!
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Hi guys!!!  :shock:

Look what i've found!!! http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/02/michael-j ... worthless/

This article is posted in 2nd June 2009!!!

According to the promoter Patrick Allocco, Michael finally was agree to make the comeback tour with his brothers!!! It's confirmed that THIS IS IT Tour was a false tour!!!

Michael couldn't perform in 2009 because of this contract. If he had performed he had been sued by AllGoodEntertainment!!!

And for that date, it was too late to cancel THIS IS IT. That's the real reason why he hoaxed his death!!! For not to be sued!!!

***3rd July 2010 will be the first Michael's performance with his brothers after his hoax death!!!***

Jack Pack Tour 2010!!!

wOOOOOOOWWW!!! :o  :o  :o
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Hi guys!!!  :shock:

Look what i've found!!! http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/02/michael-j ... worthless/

This article is posted in 2nd June 2009!!!

According to the promoter Patrick Allocco, Michael finally was agree to make the comeback tour with his brothers!!! It's confirmed that THIS IS IT Tour was a false tour!!!

Michael couldn't perform in 2009 because of this contract. If he had performed he had been sued by AllGoodEntertainment!!!

And for that date, it was too late to cancel THIS IS IT. That's the real reason why he hoaxed his death!!! For not to be sued!!!

***3rd July 2010 will be the first Michael's performance with his brothers after his hoax death!!!***

Jack Pack Tour 2010!!!

wOOOOOOOWWW!!! :o  :o  :o


Yes, true!  And that is probably why Michael wore the red mission shirt with the three 7s on it in This Is It.

7 X 3 = 21
07/03/2010 = First live concert after "death."   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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Source: TMZ - http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/16/michael-j ... n-lawsuit/

"Jacko's manager signed a deal on behalf of M.J. to perform with his sis and bros at Cowboy Stadium in Arlington, Texas in 2010. Part of the deal -- that he not sign any other concert deal for 18 months. But then Jacko went and signed up for his London concerts which are scheduled to begin in July"

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"UPDATE: Patrick Allocco has resubmitted his offer for MJ to perform with the Jackson 5 and Janet without the pay-per-view. For this one night event, MJ would be paid $3million, Janet $1mil, and the brothers would get $500,000 to split."
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if this is the case...
he will perform with his family and all is a reality show... :roll:
could be a reallity show?
what about the legislation of a reallity show?
if this is a BIG reallity?
what do you think?
someone must to know the truth... someone have to make a declaration before this happen and keep the secret...  :roll:
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U PEOPLE!!..u r definitly not understanding what this all about!!!..MJ is not going to do anymore shows, no more albums, no nothing..that type of life we know about him is over!!.get over it!!....if he HOAx his death is definitly for a major reason....if he comeback and start to do shows the whole world is gonna be against him...he IS happy now..he's living the life he deserves and we most be happy for him...so seriously get over it!!... :|

wot? he has to be in hiding thats no life without the fans leaving us upset!!! clues he left for us maybe he wont do shows but u need to realise he is coming back :lol:
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so hes doing a one off show with his family in texas? man i cant go but hope we get to see it hope he comes to london at some point bet he will!!xxx
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"Jacko's manager signed a deal on behalf of M.J. to perform with his sis and bros at Cowboy Stadium in Arlington, Texas in 2010. Part of the deal -- that he not sign any other concert deal for 18 months. But then Jacko went and signed up for his London concerts which are scheduled to begin in July"

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"UPDATE: Patrick Allocco has resubmitted his offer for MJ to perform with the Jackson 5 and Janet without the pay-per-view. For this one night event, MJ would be paid $3million, Janet $1mil, and the brothers would get $500,000 to split."


GREAT INFO,MAKES A LOT OF SENSE,A HIGH POSSIBILTY FOR THE REASON OF THIS HOAX,THANK U
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texas seems a random place but dont care long as hes back! man would there be safety issues tho? Hope not!
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Janet will be in Chicago tomorrow taping the Oprah show. Anyone going? Ask Janet about her involvement with the concert for this July.
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3th July is my Birthday, would been a awezome present xD !!!!!!
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I live in Austin TX....July 3rd, I'll be there!! Wooooooo. Getting excited over here :mrgreen:
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this is so interesting but if this is all true michael must be scared .He made a mistake with  the legal side of things
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u seriously think he faked his death to avoid getting sued? Wasnt it planned for a while? bit extremem isnt it? Doesnt sued mean money gets taken would it really have been that bad? Why plan other shows then hmm...
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this is so interesting but if this is all true michael must be scared .He made a mistake with  the legal side of things

Could be a reallity show?
what about the legislation of a reallity show?
if this is a BIG reallity?
what do you think?
someone must to know the truth... someone have to make a declaration before this happen and keep the secret...
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I cant understand why the 02 does not have bookings for that time can you imagine the money they will lose it must be their busy time, i have not heard that they are doing major work to the venue so what can the answer be.  If only our thoughts are right. but how would they keep the staff there quiet about this woudnt they be wondering what is coming.
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Maybe that's why they call themselves the Jackson Dynasty. (The name always made me think of that Tv show)
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http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/16/michael-jackson-jackson-5-jackson-five-jacko-janet-jackson-lawsuit/

An artcile about Michael jackson's perform in Texas TMZ ..mmmhhhhh


And another article ....

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/mic ... 2101.story


BUT WAIT ,IF THE BROTHERS OF MJ WILL BE THE JACKSON 5 FOR THIS CONCERT with Janet and ,for there no-believers,with not MJ  .....THAN IT'S EXPLAIN WHY JANET WILL BE IN THIS CONCERT !!!!

BUT DON'T SAY MICHAEL WILL NOT BE THERE ,IT'S CLEARLY IN THE ARTICLES THAT HE WILL BE THERE  !!!!!!

 :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :D  :D  :!:


But didn't Janet say, that the Stories about her being the new member of Jackson 5 is BS?
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I respect yours, too.  I truly do but I disagree with you on every point.  I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be.  Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie.  The kind of movie that had never been done before.  Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts.  They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008.  The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008.  Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09.  There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates.  Allgood sued in May of 2009.  This was all Michael's master comeback plan.  His death has been the greatest comeback!  As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree.  There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year.  Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time?  We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death."  Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason.  William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October.  Conrad Murray is a freemason.  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons.  Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD.  Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything.  If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail.  The court room appearance was staged by Michael.  The court room was set up backwards from protocol.  Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom.  The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA.  The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him.  The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges.  Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing.  The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist.  According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner.  If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both.  It cannot be both.  It has to be one or the other.  The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out.  Therefore, they do not exist.  The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website.  The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual.  Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases.  The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist).  Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources.  EVERYTHING.  It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it."  The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this".  The truth is none of this is really happening.  There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request.  This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth.  I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER!  I learned that from Michael himself.  The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real.  The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table.  It was selective footage to make it look real.  Michael knows how to play the game.   The media did it to him for years!  They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe.  Michael is doing the same thing now.   I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this.  However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.   :D  :D

Very interesting! Please go on and on and on for pages and pages.  :D


Okay, I will add a few more paragraphs to my REALISTIC take!  This is from another thread but explains my belief a little further about the whole saga.   I am helen on the LKL blog. :D  :D

This is my interpretation and synopsis of the Jack5ons season finale...

The mind blowing ending is that Michael's death is all a dream. In the first episode Jermaine said "they call me the dreamer". When the footage is shown of Jermaine announcing Michael's death, that footage is shown in slow motion "like a dream." The only other time we see "slow motion" footage in the entire series is in the Finale when the brothers are leaving Jimmy and Terry and wondering what they are going to do without Michael. After that "slow footage" scene, the next thing that happens is he tells Halima about the dream he keeps having. When Jermaine tells the brothers about his dream, that is when they go to Forest Lawn. The whole reality series is about losing their brother and the biggest superstar on earth, but in REALITY, it is all a dream! The question is "what did we all learn from the dream?" To LOVE before it's too late. The final words in the series are "that's what I've learned."

The series started with Jermaine being the "dreamer" and ended with Jermaine telling the brothers about his "dream." Remember the show Dallas from years ago? They did a whole season that was based on a dream and no one knew that until the end of the season.

The new song written for them is "Love Needs A Warning." The "dream" of Michael dying is the warning. The reality series is linked to the movie and They Don't Care Care About Us, Martin Luther King, Jr. I have a "dream." One that will change the world forever and make HIStory. Make that change. Mike's "death" has definitely changed the world forever.

It was a SECRET FINALE that would BLOW YOUR MIND! If you got it, of course! That's my take on it.....

Also, everyone when asked says "it feels like a bad dream" including Firpo Carr, Quincy Jones, Barry Gordy, etc. etc. etc.  It is all a bad dream.  After the season finale Jodi Gomes immediately tweeted "Thank you MLK, Jr. for dreaming" and the next day she tweeted "I never want to wake up from this dream."   Michael's Memorial is listed in the IMDB as "reality TV" rather than news.  Princess Diana's memorial is listed in the IMDB as "news."  AEG produced the memorial and the FUNERAL!  The TII dancers were dressed in custom made Victory tour jackets identical to Marlon's that he wore on the Victory tour.  Michael will return to savor the victory once his mission has been accomplished and he has won!  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

I could still go on for pages and pages and pages...

We love you, Mike! And YES, we will be there!


Helen!!!! (Babs/LKL)  OMG... I love your post!  You always see right through "the curtain"... Meet me in Arlington dear!   :mrgreen:
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Well, good for u my friend, i respect ur opinion...don't get me wrong, i'll be the first one screaming ''HE'S BACK'' if he does it!!...but at this point, there's so many legal/justice/court/police/investigation things involved that i personaly doubt that MJ would comeback to face all this circus...but i hope i'm wrong! :|  

I respect yours, too.  I truly do but I disagree with you on every point.  I have always thought that the concerts were never meant to be.  Michael contacted DiLeo in early 2008 about co-producing a movie.  The kind of movie that had never been done before.  Michael supposedly contacted AEG in the summer of 2008 about the concerts.  They began contractually planning it in the fall of 2008.  The Allgood contract was signed (on purpose) in late fall of 2008.  Announcement for concerts was made on 03/05/09.  There were already concerts scheduled at the 02 and tickets had been sold in the fall of 2008 that would have made some of Michael's shows almost impossible to perform on certain dates.  Allgood sued in May of 2009.  This was all Michael's master comeback plan.  His death has been the greatest comeback!  As far as agencies involved, I completely disagree.  There are no agencies involved except maybe the DEA at Katherine Jackson's request since Michael was going to be "dead" for close to a year.  Why not add another good cause to the saga by bringing criminal doctors down at the same time?  We have never seen anyone in uniform give any kind of statement regarding his "death."  Only Craig Harvey who gave one brief press conference on June 26th and Craig Harvey is a freemason.  William Bratton who was chief of police at the time is also a freemason and resigned suddenly in October.  Conrad Murray is a freemason.  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Firpo Carr are freemasons.  Firpo Carr is also a "top dog" at the LAPD and in my opinion has been the "unnamed source" since June 25th at the LAPD.  Conrad Murray has not been charged with anything.  If you look him up at the sheriff's website, you will see that there is no charge entered and no bail.  The court room appearance was staged by Michael.  The court room was set up backwards from protocol.  Defendant/plaintiff on wrong sides of the courtroom.  The "courtroom" did not have the required seals or flags as mandated by the state of CA.  The judge had a TOY yellow taxi cab on one side of him, a clone from The Wiz, and a yellow ragdoll on the other side of him.  The charges were not read because Conrad and his attorney waived the reading of the charges.  Michael Jackson's name was not mentioned at the hearing.  The DA's website has a charge posted there but the charge in reality does not exist.  According to the CA penal code, one can be charged with involuntary manslaugher by one of two ways 1) an unlawful act or 2) a lawful act in an unlawful manner.  If you read the charge posted on their website, he is charged with both.  It cannot be both.  It has to be one or the other.  The charges as they have them listed cancel each other out.  Therefore, they do not exist.  The website also has a "disclaimer" stating that they are not responsible for the accuracy of anything listed on their website.  The DA made no statement on camera which was highly unusual.  Tom Sneddon certainly made a statement on camera as do most DAs when they are prosecuting high profile cases.  The DA never mentioned Michael Jackson's name at the hearing and again, the charges were not read (because they legally do not exist).  Everything that the media has reported since 06/25/09 has been from unnamed sources.  EVERYTHING.  It is like Michael always says "if you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it."  The media has reported "sources from the LAPD said this" and "sources from the DAs office said that" and "sources close to the investigation said this".  The truth is none of this is really happening.  There are no agencies involved whatsoever and there is no investigation going on whatsoever except for maybe the DEA at Katherine's request.  This is all just my opinion, but I am a very firm believer that this is really the truth.  I don't believe anything from unnamed sources...EVER!  I learned that from Michael himself.  The "courtroom" appearance was definitely staged and not real.  The footage that was released to national TV stations only showed a close-up of Conrad at the defendant's table.  It was selective footage to make it look real.  Michael knows how to play the game.   The media did it to him for years!  They used selective footage and sound bites to "create" what they wanted the public to believe.  Michael is doing the same thing now.   I could go on and on and on and on for pages and pages but I will stop at this.  However, I do respect your belief that he is not returning.   :D  :D[/quote]

WOW, thats a long text man ok ok, i got u!!..but wat im trying to say is that I DO beLIEve MJ is alíve; I DO beLIEve this is a HOAX; I DO beLIEve he's doin this for a great reason;I DO beLIEve all the things u just said (btw you said a couple of things i dint know, so thanx for that)....but what I DO NOT believe is that after all of this MJ is gonna return to his ''ARTIST LIFE'', i mean, to do more shows and concerts and all that stuff....that's all!!....tha's why i said MJ is in peace now, he's enjoyning the rest of his life now..after 45 years of irregular life,is enough reason to not coming back...that's all. :geek:
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