Joe at "liquor" store.

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Offline Keiko

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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 12:02:23 AM
Tension, tension...the man is an adult, he can do as he pleases. Maybe he just doesn't expect people to bother him on quick trips!He doesn't always have to send people to get things for him.
I won't go into detail on this topic, but I am about 99% positive I saw him in person a few months ago in a local shop (either that or he has his own impersonator  :?  ) and only one other fellow was even looking in his direction. Not everyone is going to recognize him, and the paps can't be everywhere at once. He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time, in my opinion.

And about the smile...that always gets me on here..sometimes I think the only thing that would convince people the Jacksons are grieving in some way was if they walked around in public with a tub of tear-coated ice cream while cutting themselves!  :lol: Really, could you picture Joe doing that? I apologize in advance if I offended someone, but really, people don't have to grieve every second of every day!
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 12:02:48 AM
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Ok maybe ppl here think I judged him because I pointed out the smile
I did not meant to, I know he has a lot of haters but Im not one of them, I have respect for him and understand where he's coming from. and I saw glimpses of love from Joe, before becoming a beLIEver I have to admit I wasnt his biggest fan but now its different
and please ppl I understand that ppl deal with things differently, I for one smile when things get sad and painful ! I feel it keeps me from crying...
I had a thought about the smile, which I will not share now because I dont want to be bashed, and just wanted to hear other people's thoughts!
Aii.. Don't sweat it.  ;) No one here should be holding back their opinions, we just need to express them respectively.

Maybe Joe needs to work on his POPOPOPOPOPOKERface.  :lol:  But, there's too many reasons why he could've smiled there.. and one of them could be a nervous reaction, something he wasn't aware of doing at the time. I really don't think it's a big deal in the grand scheme of things.  :mrgreen:
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 12:07:39 AM
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Ok maybe ppl here think I judged him because I pointed out the smile
I did not meant to, I know he has a lot of haters but Im not one of them, I have respect for him and understand where he's coming from. and I saw glimpses of love from Joe, before becoming a beLIEver I have to admit I wasnt his biggest fan but now its different
and please ppl I understand that ppl deal with things differently, I for one smile when things get sad and painful ! I feel it keeps me from crying...
I had a thought about the smile, which I will not share now because I dont want to be bashed, and just wanted to hear other people's thoughts!
Aii.. Don't sweat it.  ;) No one here should be holding back their opinions, we just need to express them respectively.

Maybe Joe needs to work on his POPOPOPOPOPOKERface.  :lol:  But, there's too many reasons why he could've smiled there.. and one of them could be a nervous reaction, something he wasn't aware of doing at the time. I really don't think it's a big deal in the grand scheme of things.  :mrgreen:
LOL!! well you brought a smile on my face :D
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 12:08:12 AM
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I feel just as passionate as any one ELSE, regarding MJ.  Although I understand where you're coming from.  It amazes me how some people (generally speaking) are quick to minimize/dismiss a wrong doers "actions", because they're now elderly,and/or TIME has elasped.

Joe has put himself out there (SPEAKING for the family), from day one. I could perhaps, have a little more sympathy if he hadn't made all of these appearances where he's the left us with more QUESTIONS, than answers.
He comes off as being very narcissistic and is giving off a vibe of "wanting" the SPOTLIGHT, by any means necessary.  His whole aura, doesn't sit RIGHT with me (and that's NOT attacking him....that's a feeling).


I'm posting this scenario, because i can't think of any thing else at the moment.

IE...
We see on the news.... a breaking report about an old 'rape' , "child abuse" or 'homicide' case (for instance) that's been re-opened because they finally found the perpetrator, who is NOW in their 80's.... has lung cancer.... and is in failing health.   Meanwhile, we learn that the victim suffered TERRIBLY, at this persons hands.  So if this person is to be "tried", by public opinion ONLY, what should happen?

So many people are quick to scream "lenience", if they even agree that the perp. should be held accountable AT ALL (after all these years)....

For the record...i'm not comparing Joe to a murderer.
I just wonder, if Katherine was the one who was more outspoken in all of this and expressed her disdain for Joe,  would these same people... be so quick to cut him some SLACK?


I think we all feel passionately about Michael.
I don't dismiss how Joe treated Michael 40 & 50 years ago(!!!) just because he's 80 now.
I'm just not willing to condemn him for life and villify him or any other members of Michael's family because they aren't acting how others think they should act.

Joe was raised in a different time.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child."
There was no such thing as "child abuse."
It was just a situation where some parents were more "strict" than others and quicker to dish out the discipline.
And Joe raised his children, his young MEN in the way he saw fit at the time.


In a country and an era that did not offer equal opportunity for blacks, he dished out beatings to young boys who could just have easily been found whipped and hung from a tree - and very little would be done to find the perpetrators.
It was a tough world for black men, and he knew this from his own experience.
So he was a tough parent.
He did the best that he could to make his young black boys into successful black men.
He saw their talent and put 110% into cultivating it for their - as well as the his & the rest of the family's - benefit.
Could he have done this without beating them?
Who knows.
We'll never know.

And I don't think that the difficulties Michael had as an adult are 100% due to his father.
I believe they were also a result of their staggering success at such a young age combined with his natural shyness and sensitivity.

Sorry this post is so long, but I'm tired of people villifying Michael's family instead of trying to understand them.
Same thing that happened to Michael...
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 12:09:36 AM
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Tension, tension...the man is an adult, he can do as he pleases. Maybe he just doesn't expect people to bother him on quick trips!He doesn't always have to send people to get things for him.
I won't go into detail on this topic, but I am about 99% positive I saw him in person a few months ago in a local shop (either that or he has his own impersonator  :?  ) and only one other fellow was even looking in his direction. Not everyone is going to recognize him, and the paps can't be everywhere at once. He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time, in my opinion.

And about the smile...that always gets me on here..sometimes I think the only thing that would convince people the Jacksons are grieving in some way was if they walked around in public with a tub of tear-coated ice cream while cutting themselves!  :lol: Really, could you picture Joe doing that? I apologize in advance if I offended someone, but really, people don't have to grieve every second of every day!
LOL! maybe every jackson has a twin  :o !! lol JK!
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 12:30:48 AM
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LOL! maybe every jackson has a twin  :o !! lol JK!
 I'm almost positive it was him! I still remember it very clearly...it was a very interesting experience. if anyone wants details they can PM me, but I don't want to change the discussion of this topic!
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 12:35:31 AM
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Why can't the man go to a liquor store without being bashed? Seriously?!? You're dissing Michael's daddy. You think he'd like that? You ok with someone dissing YOUR daddy?

Calm down....No one's dissing him for wanting a lil' taste!  The issue, is the TIMING.....his body language, obvious smile, etc.  are inconsistent with a father who is about to MOURN with the world......in a matter of "hours."

Furthermore, he had to have known that the media would be observing their EVERY move.  

At least "try" to look distraught or something. Why give them SOMETHING to question?

Oh ok miss gigantifont tell me to calm down.

Be a little more critical why don't you. You live your life in front of the cameras every day and see how you like your every move scrutinized and criticized. This pasttime of dissing Michael's family is completely inappropriate and really needs to STOP.

There's no justification for it. None.

YOU THINK MICHAEL WOULD APPRECIATE IT????????




(Lord, please give me the strength to keep this "civil"). :roll:

Eye rolling smilie is the sign of someone who got no argument left. You know you're wrong.
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:01:32 AM
:| Looks like someone is........ hormonal...:shock:
 :lol:  :roll: Over-analyzation?quite possibly.as weird/"improper" as this seems,it's not much of a big deal as your making it out to be.
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:02:00 AM
LMAO!!!  I saw this thread at the top several times tonight and kept thinking "who cares if Joe is in the liquour store"!  But this time it clicked in my head  :lol: ...please click on the yt link to watch what I presume to be Lady Gaga's version of 'This Is It'...she tweeted this link earlier tonight and I almost fell of my chair!  Please watch till the end when she speaks of her 'father being a drunk' (which he is not)!!!  OMG there is brilliance and madness going on with this hoax!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk

[youtube:11pdz874]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk[/youtube:11pdz874]


This video may deserve a thread of its own, due to all the clues!!!  Take a look at 2:17 is that MJ behind the glass!????
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:10:57 AM
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LMAO!!!  I saw this thread at the top several times tonight and kept thinking "who cares if Joe is in the liquour store"!  But this time it clicked in my head  :lol: ...please click on the yt link to watch what I presume to be Lady Gaga's version of 'This Is It'...she tweeted this link earlier tonight and I almost fell of my chair!  Please watch till the end when she speaks of her 'father being a drunk' (which he is not)!!!  OMG there is brilliance and madness going on with this hoax!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk

[youtube:2nvsxq36]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk[/youtube:2nvsxq36]

OMG that scared me! I think im scared for life!!!
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:31:51 AM
lOMG stop the video at 1:34 and look at the man in the center...then stop it at 1:35 and tell me what you see!!!  It looks to me like some sort of' ritual!!!  OMG now I am freaking out, please tell me what you see!
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:34:15 AM
next time get the big bottle of grey goose... patron makes me overheat LOL  :lol:
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:46:47 AM
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lOMG stop the video at 1:34 and look at the man in the center...then stop it at 1:35 and tell me what you see!!!  It looks to me like some sort of' ritual!!!  OMG now I am freaking out, please tell me what you see!
I dunno what to make of that !!!
you know what made my jaw drop was when she said the hat was supposed to be an eye and I decided it needs to be shut or something like that!!!
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:48:52 AM
sorry I didnt want to quote her, I just dont wanna see the vid again right now... Im alone and its almost 2 am here.... and im a scardey cat...
and just to make it clear what scared me were the disturbing ppl in masks and not theories or blah balh blah...
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:56:40 AM
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sorry I didnt want to quote her, I just dont wanna see the vid again right now... Im alone and its almost 2 am here.... and im a scardey cat...
and just to make it clear what scared me were the disturbing ppl in masks and not theories or blah balh blah...


Ahh thanks for explaining what scared you...the whole video is really twisted, but I love it!  2 am here too and we are in the middle of yet another blizzard...ugh!  Have you seen the new Black Eyed Peas video?  That one won't make you scared but you can find a rabbit dancing with the ppl and a lot of 7's and other hidden gems!  I don't have the link on me but I will find it and start a thread on all of these music videos that I think are part of the hoax...please be safe and don't be scared, it's all for love :D !
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 05:02:52 AM
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Sorry if this has been posted previously but I find it very ODD, even for Joe.
He looks like somebody's granddaddy, who just got finished playing his numbers, picked up a pint of somethin' and is about to get into a game of Poker.

[youtube:1wx69ymk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtidx_oddsc[/youtube:1wx69ymk]


Did he need to buy some "Spirits", to lift his spirits?
:roll:

LOL!!!! i adore your sig...lovely !
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 11:22:56 AM
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sorry I didnt want to quote her, I just dont wanna see the vid again right now... Im alone and its almost 2 am here.... and im a scardey cat...
and just to make it clear what scared me were the disturbing ppl in masks and not theories or blah balh blah...


Ahh thanks for explaining what scared you...the whole video is really twisted, but I love it!  2 am here too and we are in the middle of yet another blizzard...ugh!  Have you seen the new Black Eyed Peas video?  That one won't make you scared but you can find a rabbit dancing with the ppl and a lot of 7's and other hidden gems!  I don't have the link on me but I will find it and start a thread on all of these music videos that I think are part of the hoax...please be safe and don't be scared, it's all for love :D !

LOL!! It is twisted but its lady gaga!! Havent seen the video but I will! looking forward to the thread :) well thnaks for posting the vid lol it was interesting! I got over my fear of it LOL!!! I think it was just the time... dont worry ! L.O.V.E. <3
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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 11:34:12 AM
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Lotus _sutra.....
This video may deserve a thread of its own, due to all the clues!!! Take a look at 2:17 is that MJ behind the glass!????

The whole concept, of HER having made this video is interesting... that's for sure. I'm not sure about that being MJ but, The END, where the guy is lying on the couch and his breathing is exaggerated....is "significant." Symbolic (?)

Could be nothing (she was supposed to be the Hunchback of Notre Dame) but this photo stood out due to the over-emphasis of the SHOULDERS.  
Like how MJ is wearing those jackets with the dramatic shoulder pads in parts of TII.




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Re: Joe at "liquor" store.

  • on: February 26, 2010, 01:31:31 PM
IS that a smile I see at 0:18! I think i need to get some sleep

Yes, u are absolutely right, i saw it too very clearly that he smiled at 0:18 when that guy asked him about hte body and the memorial
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